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  • Опубликовано: 13 авг 2024
  • Tesla’s California virtual power plant transforms the grid and makes millions
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Комментарии • 171

  • @h2rider953
    @h2rider953 Месяц назад +50

    Have a powerwall 2 and have not paid a power bill for 12 months and get another $500 Credit again next month, On VPP deal. Need more solar hope to increase my solar soon. In Sydney NSW.

    • @pgale
      @pgale Месяц назад +4

      @@h2rider953 That's good to know I'm half way through my build and I'm tossing up to go extra panels or the battery 🔋

    • @philipdamask2279
      @philipdamask2279 Месяц назад

      You are screwing your neighbors and the government!

    • @greghudson9717
      @greghudson9717 29 дней назад

      @@pgale IMO Do both. I did.

  • @carrdoug99
    @carrdoug99 Месяц назад +24

    When I first started buying Tesla stock in 2019, this possible future was why I did it. 👍👍

  • @herrtomas6729
    @herrtomas6729 Месяц назад +10

    I'm waiting for PowerWall3 to be installed in the UK. September I've been told.
    Local solar and battery capacity make a great deal of sense. The country's infrastructure isn't able to shift vast amounts of power between where it is generated and where it is needed, so local 'fuel dumps' make sense - even more so if you get Joe Public to stump up the cost and install it!

  • @Peter-hg2oc
    @Peter-hg2oc Месяц назад +12

    I’m waiting for the powerwall 3 to come to Australia

  • @charleshill7184
    @charleshill7184 Месяц назад +11

    Electric Utilities are composed essentially of 3 different components: generation, transmission, usage. California's NEM 2.0 program was designed to encourage local GENERATION. It created a boom in solar rooftop deployment. It was successful! Great! But now California is generating MORE electricity than they can use. NOW their problem is usage. They want to level out the usage and that is solved by NEM 3.0, which is designed to encourage STORAGE. Now the incentives encourage batteries, which both levels out the load by allowing heavy usage in the hours when there is no solar generation (EV charging, dishwashers on delay, heat pumps over night, etc.). And by increasing self-consumption, it reduces the load on the TRANSMISSION component, because if a building is creating and using its electricity locally, it isn't using the power lines and frees up capacity for others.

    • @freeheeler09
      @freeheeler09 Месяц назад +1

      Charles, agreed! In order for California’s plan to benefit citizens (the California electricity utility monopolies are predatory and actually harmful to Californians), batteries need co rapidly and drastically come down in price. But, residential solar and batteries mean that for the first time ever, the predatory electricity utilities and cartels actually have competition! As batteries drop in price, the electricity cartels will have fewer and fewer customers.

    • @ctuna2011
      @ctuna2011 Месяц назад

      Yeah after they encouraged us to get Solar in California now they are trying to punish us for it.

    • @nicksgarage2
      @nicksgarage2 Месяц назад

      As long as they keep fighting the practice of charging batteries overnight and using during peak times, they are not encouraging storage. Those who may not be able to get solar but could take advantage of batteries are basically frozen out. I'm on NEM 2.0 and getting two PW3s but I can't increase my solar array without getting stuck on NEM 3.0. I'm getting a hefty rebate on the batteries but I have to sign up for a VPP though the local community power for 5 years where they can take half my storage as needed with a small payment. I'm gambling on not getting screwed by it.

    • @philipdamask2279
      @philipdamask2279 Месяц назад

      @@nicksgarage2 Did you take advantage of tax incentives? If so you are part of the reason for increasing the public debt and contributed to our inflation problem.

    • @nicksgarage2
      @nicksgarage2 Месяц назад +1

      @@philipdamask2279 So rich people and oil companies can get tax breaks and incentives, that contribute so much more to the debt, but a middle class family can't? Do you take advantage of highways that I helped pay for? Do you not take any deductions on your taxes? You need to educate yourself on how society works.

  • @AaronDwyer
    @AaronDwyer Месяц назад +11

    Agree power supply is bigger than EVs and robots. It’s the one thing we must have to survive in our densely populated areas. There are decentralised solar power setups in less stable energy countries, where neighbouring villages shares and trades electricity amongst themselves.

    • @markallen4514
      @markallen4514 Месяц назад +2

      I believe Tesla is serious about home energy when they allow bidirectional charging on all their cars. Each car is equivalent to several power walls. If Tesla really wanted to have an impact, it would allow those batteries to be used much more effectively. The fact that they don’t allow it leads me to the conclusion that what they’re really trying to do is sell power walls at the expense really really making a difference.

    • @nguyep4
      @nguyep4 Месяц назад +1

      ​​​@@markallen4514A fixed plateform for power distribution is better than a car that may or may not plug gets into the grids. In the short to medium term. You are simply expecting the negative therefore you made up an excuse due to that bias. Tesla Cybertruck has that bi directional setup.

  • @johnsmedley8843
    @johnsmedley8843 Месяц назад +9

    As an engineer for about 50 years these arguments about can we afford renewables really piss me off. Of course we can , the new UK Government will lead the way.

  • @ryen7512
    @ryen7512 Месяц назад +10

    California has so much grid battery capacity now that they can output the equivalent of 3 nuclear power plants at times when needed (6,000 megawatts). This number will only grow as more battery installations come online.

    • @philipdamask2279
      @philipdamask2279 Месяц назад

      This is pure garbage!

    • @fjalics
      @fjalics 29 дней назад

      ​@@philipdamask2279You're right! It's really the equivalent of 6 nuclear power plants. The average nuke in the US is right around 1gw, not 2. Of course it is short term output, but wicked fast to ramp up and down, and perfect for managing the evening peak, and should be great for cold start, given that it is designed right. Nuclear has the same problems as wind and solar, which is that from a practical perspective, it doesn't follow load at all, putting it in the cheap electron business, only it's expensive.

    • @elephantintheroom5678
      @elephantintheroom5678 17 дней назад

      @@philipdamask2279 🤣🙄

  • @kencotton4645
    @kencotton4645 Месяц назад +5

    I wish Tesla would offer incentives to folks willing to participate in VPPs, perhaps selling the powerwalls at a reduced price or offering zero interest loans.

    • @stevencole7331
      @stevencole7331 Месяц назад

      Very good point . Tesla still makes a profit on the use of customers powerwall that they paid for

  • @Chainyanker007
    @Chainyanker007 Месяц назад +3

    A while back Elon said that the global energy market was larger than than the global car market. Looks like the time has come for Tesla to capitalize on that. I bought TSLA several years ago when the Megapack was first announced, to me it was the missing element in the renewable energy triad. Throw in Autobidder and you have a real money maker.

  • @jimparr01Utube
    @jimparr01Utube Месяц назад +6

    I agree with the VPP concept. When more mega-packs are installed in strategic locations this will allow a far greater stability on any national grid that relies on wind & solar to a large degree. I also think gravity storage concepts (now proven to be practical) have a great future.
    One other concept that is little discussed, is the effect of local storage by whatever means on a national grid. If intelligently applied, VPP and mega-storage can not only remove transmission STRESSES from the grid, but also drastically reduce energy losses from the transmission of energy over long distance.
    So when a grid begins to exploit local energy storage on a daily basis, there will be a far more stable national energy supply. It will take some time to work out a practical model without powermongers becoming involved, but the future is basically 'bright' if everyone cooperates to establish this new paradigm, even while power grids are undergoing long-overdue upgrades in most nations.

    • @grantbuttenshaw
      @grantbuttenshaw Месяц назад +1

      What do you think about Australia building 25 gas peaker plants over the next 20 years?

    • @jimparr01Utube
      @jimparr01Utube Месяц назад

      @@grantbuttenshaw Well Sir, I would take a look at the xenophobic and nonsense political environment in Australia going down over investment in energy projects. There seems to be one or two ignoramus politico's in Aussie who are more invested in pork-barrel politics and ranting about how electric cars catch on fire all the time.
      That said, many 3'rd World countries should not be deprived of their meager energy resources by extranational edicts. This is also nonsense.
      25 gas peaker plants over 20 years? I did not know that. Pretty crazy methinks. But I do not think that is a good policy unless the energy resources to accomplish that effectively are readily available and "economical". I suspect NOT!
      In respect of discharging CO2 instead of sequestering it, this does not appear to be sensible. Investing in "storage" for peak demand or emergencies is surely a more sane path to stable energy supply when the increasing proliferation of solar and wind energy harvesting throughout the World is a great marriage with battery storage at scale.

    • @capnkirk5528
      @capnkirk5528 Месяц назад

      @@grantbuttenshaw Really, really stupid? As in REALLY stupid. Somebody is getting paid off.

    • @chrishaberbosch1029
      @chrishaberbosch1029 Месяц назад

      @@grantbuttenshawthey’re not. Even the AEMO has highlighted that gas peaker plants are too expensive relative to solar wind and batteries. Gas peakers have peaked and are in decline.

    • @grantbuttenshaw
      @grantbuttenshaw Месяц назад

      @@chrishaberbosch1029 interesting....where did you read this? What page exactly...

  • @david-iam
    @david-iam Месяц назад +3

    Our solar panel system ROI was shorter than the 6.5years originally estimated. It generated more power than guaranteed by Tesla each year. We broke even at around the 5 year mark so we’re glad we went solar. And the electric company have increased the peak kw/h rate since when we first went solar from like .42cents to .80cents. With no end in sight. Crazy.

    • @philipdamask2279
      @philipdamask2279 Месяц назад

      Your situation is why you broke even in so few years. Did you thank your neighbors and tax payers for subsidizing your life?

    • @Pierceb2
      @Pierceb2 Месяц назад

      I did Solar and it paid for itself in five years. Pay yourself first your cost is fixed, there is no fuel cost and there is no inflation on your cost of energy. Millions have done it and you can too.

  • @charleshill7184
    @charleshill7184 Месяц назад +7

    "People are saying that in a few years Tesla will make more money in selling PowerWalls and MegaPacks than from electric cars." -- You're forgetting Tesla cars can be rolling PowerWalls. Once Tesla gets around to adding V2H/V2H to their vehicles -- which we're starting to see with the CyberTruck -- they'll be a big part of the equation. This is the reason GM formed GM Energy along with leaning in on EVs. Ford has the "power your home" bit for the F-150 Lightning, but GM has the whole enchilada with solar integration, optional batteries, etc. for their Ultium EV line.

    • @airparnes
      @airparnes Месяц назад +1

      Can’t wait for V👉H
      With the right battery chemistry it’s a win all around.

    • @StrokeToSail
      @StrokeToSail Месяц назад

      Goverment Motors' CEO is as incompetent as the current US President. Her only skill is taking tax payers money! GM is leading the way towards bankruptcy.

  • @mrmawson2438
    @mrmawson2438 Месяц назад +18

    Tesla is the king

  • @mkashay
    @mkashay Месяц назад

    I have my Powerwall's signed up for this in CA. I am glad to help and make some money doing so.

  • @edwardlinne2156
    @edwardlinne2156 Месяц назад +2

    Thats great but electricity in California is a crazy 35 cents per kwh. Yikes.

    • @paulkieffer1189
      @paulkieffer1189 17 дней назад

      I pay 12¢ at off peak hours. Charge the Tesla for $6

  • @budgetaudiophilelife-long5461
    @budgetaudiophilelife-long5461 Месяц назад +4

    🙋‍♂️THANKS SAM 🤗 FOR SHARING THE FUTURE,AND WHY WE CAN LOOK 👀 FORWARD TO THIS 💚💚💚

  • @leonng1261
    @leonng1261 22 дня назад

    Well explained my friend

  • @Xboxfanuk
    @Xboxfanuk Месяц назад +5

    I am not a climate alarmist, I am not anti-oil and gas. But I 100% agree electric is the future. But forcing the cost of all this hardware on the poor in the UK is not fair. Yes well off folks can upgrade, but poor people cannot.

    • @steven4315
      @steven4315 Месяц назад +1

      The thing about a VPP is you don't need to have one to benefit from it. A VPP is a cheaper option for utilities to provide peak power.

    • @chrishaberbosch1029
      @chrishaberbosch1029 Месяц назад +3

      A VPP makes electricity cheaper for everyone.

    • @juliahello6673
      @juliahello6673 Месяц назад +2

      People who don’t think that huge numbers of people dying in droughts is a problem but think the relative poor in a rich company not getting minor financial advantages that the median and above get…boggle my mind.

    • @freeheeler09
      @freeheeler09 Месяц назад

      Xbox, per economies of scale, as more home and utility scale batteries are installed, the more prices will drop. And, more innovation will occur. Whether you are concerned about the climate or not, the climate physicists are. Powering our homes, businesses and vehicles crashes right now creates a lot of atmospheric carbon, which both scientists and also you know heats up the planet. A stable planet will save you a lot of money.

    • @mnhsty
      @mnhsty Месяц назад

      Most put people are not homeowners, so why would they be buying hardware?

  • @stanleytolle416
    @stanleytolle416 Месяц назад +3

    It also helps that Diablo Canyon nuclear power plant was not closed. This plant keeps the lights on in the winter and saves around 100 square miles from environmental destruction of renewables development

  • @hardi.howdy.983
    @hardi.howdy.983 Месяц назад +5

    Nice.
    But can a power plant be *virtual* ? 🤔

    • @philliptemple9841
      @philliptemple9841 Месяц назад +5

      Yes. It's not an actual power plant but an aggregate of various independent sources.
      Phillip.

    • @danielking2944
      @danielking2944 Месяц назад

      When the car battery is integrated into the VPP system then Tesla will be more of an energy supplier with some of the storage rapidly mobile. Just imagine, in the event of a grid infrastructure disaster,EVs can go to where it is still operable and contribute to the stability of the grid when plants in the affected areas cannot do their part.
      It seems to me that this VPP technology would be useful to form micro grids in areas of just a few hundred houses,with input from the larger grid only when they need it. Broken into cells like this,the danger of cascading failure over large areas would be “virtually “ eliminated. I notice that the electric co-ops here in Texas maintain their infrastructure much better because they own it.

  • @RobinHood-lz2wj
    @RobinHood-lz2wj Месяц назад +1

    Go back to Tesla’s mission. The cars and the energy are two parts of the creation-storage-consumption triad. Both of these are consistent with their mission. Their profits are used to build what they believe to be the best options to achieve that mission.

  • @frankcoffey
    @frankcoffey Месяц назад +2

    California will do the same thing to powerwall owners they did to solar owners. They will say you get $2 per KWH to get folks to invest in the hardware and then cut it to 20 cents per KWH. I have confidence after the way people who invested in solar were treated by governments, insurance companies, HOAs,.... the list keeps growing. When I bought my Tesla the registration was $79 per year now it's $279 per year. The idea is the little guy never gets to keep savings. Same with the homeowners tax break in Texas, the insurance went up BY THE EXACT AMOUNT of the savings. I don't believe in coincidence, things happen as planned.

    • @sacric1de
      @sacric1de 22 дня назад

      You're probably right, they re-secure tax revenue after they run out of options. You always investing to save money

    • @frankcoffey
      @frankcoffey 22 дня назад

      @@sacric1de I've learned the hard way you never get to keep your savings. I voted to get a tax break on my home and in a matter of months my homeowners insurance went up by the EXACT amount of my savings. I don't believe in coincidence. Things go as planned.

  • @jimfergusondev
    @jimfergusondev Месяц назад +1

    The only problem is VPP (with San DIego Gas & Electric) has a limit of $350 per power wall per year. but it will save the owner money because it allow you to run your house off the battery during the peak rates

    • @stevencole7331
      @stevencole7331 Месяц назад

      This is a interesting in terms as once you hit that $350 amount should you turn off your participation if your not going to receive compensation for your solar generation and use it for your own personal use

  • @gunnarparment5050
    @gunnarparment5050 Месяц назад

    Home batteries are already big, and Tesla are not alone. Looks like a bright future. 🙂

  • @markmiller8903
    @markmiller8903 10 дней назад

    What chemistry is in powerwall

  • @brendanpells912
    @brendanpells912 Месяц назад +2

    Calling a battery a 'virtual power plant' is like me calling my credit card a 'virtual job'. I don't need a real job, because I have a credit card, and I can use it to pay for everything. No more getting up to go out to work every day. Which works perfectly until I hit my credit card limit, that's when I find out I do need a real job after all, because my credit card is useless until I pay off the balance.

    • @summertyme5748
      @summertyme5748 Месяц назад +3

      But your analogy is off because the video is a bout "solar" - which is then stored in battery.
      Solar + battery *IS* a power plant, and to have fun with your analogy - solar and battery generates real jobs, unlike 'coal' which continues to bleed jobs, and make lungs bleed too.

    • @summertyme5748
      @summertyme5748 Месяц назад +2

      To wit: _Tesla has been using virtual power plants to aggregate its distributed energy systems, rooftop solar and Powerwall, to provide grid services and get more value for their customers._
      So virtual power plant is exactly right, whereas your analogy is wrong, because you completely ignore the renewable energy sources being consolidated.
      [you could claim that ice electric plant isn't 'power' either. It's basically a furnace, which burns coal, which aggregates millions of years of solar energy, and whose millions of years worth of carbon you release back into the air]
      You're just wrong. Period.

    • @Rainbowpigss
      @Rainbowpigss Месяц назад

      It’s the cluster of batteries acting as a power plant when needed

    • @brendanpells912
      @brendanpells912 Месяц назад

      @@Rainbowpigss It's energy storage, it can only store energy generated elsewhere

    • @greghudson9717
      @greghudson9717 Месяц назад +1

      @@brendanpells912 Wrong. A home battery can store energy generated at the same location as the solar. Or, arbitrage low cost off peak power, selling it at peak rates.

  • @user-tg9qz2ul2k
    @user-tg9qz2ul2k 6 дней назад

    In soler farms they take repurpose batteries from old hybrids cars an takes exsase power to store

  • @jedics1
    @jedics1 Месяц назад

    A better way to "off set the cost of your powerwall" is to not buy one and just diy the cells for 1/4 the price :) 14kw of lfp prismatic cells from China can be had for about 3 or 4 grand.

  • @888fatboy
    @888fatboy 29 дней назад

    Failure of PG&E/SCE/SDGE to make Direct payment for residential solar power has deterred me from installing solar panels. 😢 your news that PG&E is making such payments is good news, if true.

  • @DeepakKumar-cd8ny
    @DeepakKumar-cd8ny 22 дня назад

    Batteries are expensive, I think every home with solar should just have an insulated water tank with heating elements. Excess solar energy can then just be stored as hot water and people can shower with it in the afternoon. because water can absorve so much heat and people use so much water to shower, the water tanks are unlikely to take all the excess energy from solar panels but it will reduce gas bills because water won't need to be heated as much.

  • @chriswilliams8607
    @chriswilliams8607 Месяц назад

    In some countries in Europe now dynamic power prices (hourly epex spot dayahead) is available for end consumers both for drawing or supplying from/to the grid, which is very good development. This is a very good self regulating situations, as batteries get cheaper and cheaper people can store solar energy and feed during the night when prices are high.

    • @greghudson9717
      @greghudson9717 Месяц назад

      In Australia the NEM has a 5 minute spot price which fluctuates 24/7

  • @steveclancy7832
    @steveclancy7832 Месяц назад +2

    Data from 10.07.2024 gas is supplying 39 percent of cali power.....10 percent nuclear

    • @Chainyanker007
      @Chainyanker007 Месяц назад

      Mandated by law to be 100% renewable for consumers by 2045.

    • @steveclancy7832
      @steveclancy7832 Месяц назад

      @@Chainyanker007 just remember any law can be changed by whatever government is in power at the time..

    • @davidrink1291
      @davidrink1291 28 дней назад

      Don’t forget about pumped hydro.

  • @EPeltzer
    @EPeltzer Месяц назад

    I would like to see hard numbers on this, I think this is misleading. I believe the majority of California's solar power as well as battery capacity comes in the form of large utility installations. Home batteries and the virtual power plants assembled from those are a fairly minor part of the equation. Economies of scale and huge purchase quantities mean that the utilities can install and run this stuff much cheaper than relatively tiny homeowner financed projects requiring expensive services of solar installer middlemen selling equipment with huge markups.

  • @philipdamask2279
    @philipdamask2279 Месяц назад

    What is the cost of that battery installation?

  • @paulrandolph8469
    @paulrandolph8469 Месяц назад

    To sum up, this is a decentralized distribution scheme--from those who have to those who need.

  • @andreandre1051
    @andreandre1051 Месяц назад

    👍👍

  • @snappingclam8801
    @snappingclam8801 Месяц назад

    Gas is at this moment generating over 37% of CA's electricity.

  • @FiDelZarlar
    @FiDelZarlar 2 дня назад

    Giga Shanghai is a factory making 1 million EVs a year. Why do you say that’s not existing???

  • @davidfig6357
    @davidfig6357 Месяц назад

    Another datapoint. California uses just over 100terawatts of power. To power all electric cars it will take 5 times that. We already import 32% of our electricity, all because we shut down our nuclear plants.

  • @jaaklucas1329
    @jaaklucas1329 Месяц назад

    Love it!

  • @rb8049
    @rb8049 Месяц назад

    The first solution is to have dynamic pricing second by second. Make the price negative if it isn’t needed and more positive as the need increases. Then batteries will may for themselves. If the pricing is not variable, the market can’t react to the needs.

    • @glenwillson5073
      @glenwillson5073 Месяц назад

      Yep that's the plan, rip people off with exhorbitant pricing when they most need & cant avoid using power.

    • @philipdamask2279
      @philipdamask2279 Месяц назад

      With dynamic pricing you will no longer be able to bank your solar energy with the utility.

  • @steveclancy7832
    @steveclancy7832 Месяц назад +3

    That's rubbish sammy when the blackout occurred 16 yes 16 evs put power back into the grid and that's sweet f all power lol look it up there's a news story about the 16 evs.....

    • @davidbrayshaw3529
      @davidbrayshaw3529 Месяц назад +3

      Absolute rubbish, that's what that is. So far from the truth that it's not even a misrepresentation of the facts, it's a lie.

    • @aussie405
      @aussie405 Месяц назад +2

      And the cars involved were not Teslas. The only ones that can do V2G in Australia atm are the Nissan Leaf and possibly a Mitsubishi. They said a number of other evs would be able to do it with just a software update.

    • @christopherknipe4336
      @christopherknipe4336 Месяц назад +2

      Atto3 has it.

    • @freeheeler09
      @freeheeler09 Месяц назад

      Steve, you apparently haven’t heard, but Tesla produces more than just cars. It also produces home and utility-scale batteries. Many other companies are also producing home and utility-scale batteries. And Australia, Texas, China, Spain, California, etc. are installing a lot of these batteries. California has enough utility-scale and home batteries that it is starting to be able to cover that critical 4-9 pm time each day when solar electricity production peaks and electricity demand spikes, with batteries. Batteries, especially home batteries, need to drop significantly in price still. In the US, the price of a home battery installed is about $1,000/kwh. That needs to drop by a factor of ten. And, vehicle to grid is just in its infancy. If utilities make it worth their while, EV owners will allow their cars to be used to help cover expensive, peak demand.

    • @steveclancy7832
      @steveclancy7832 Месяц назад +1

      @@freeheeler09 the comment was in regard to the story about the 16 evs putting power back in during a blackout

  • @KlanHoffman
    @KlanHoffman 4 дня назад

    Sweden had the perfect mix of nuclear and hydroelectric power. Now this is broken and the costs of balancing the grid is skyrocketing

  • @stephenbrickwood1602
    @stephenbrickwood1602 Месяц назад +1

    24 hours of grid electricity is a max of 600gWh. From 25gW fossil generation plant. In Australia.
    But the same amount of PV electricity has to be generated in 5 hours. So 120gw per hour
    This is way over the grids capacity of 25gW max per hour
    Storage at point of generation with big batteries and slowly fed back into the grid at only 25gW per hour for 24hrs.
    Big batteries are needed if PV is to work.

    • @freeheeler09
      @freeheeler09 Месяц назад

      And also wind, nuclear, geothermal, etc.

  • @johnnyjet3.1412
    @johnnyjet3.1412 Месяц назад

    I have a solar roof and a power wall, just need the power company to inspect my roof so that it can be turned on- it’s been a month now.

  • @philipdamask2279
    @philipdamask2279 Месяц назад

    100 MWs is a drop in the bucket and it cost PG&E a small fortune. Do your home work!

  • @frederickreinking6655
    @frederickreinking6655 Месяц назад +1

    My HOA won't let me install Solar panels😢.

    • @nicksgarage2
      @nicksgarage2 Месяц назад +1

      There are laws being passed in various places to stop that practice. But first step is never buy into an HOA if you don't like the rules.

    • @spocksvulcanbrain
      @spocksvulcanbrain 29 дней назад

      Get on the board and change that!

  • @StuartConsulting
    @StuartConsulting Месяц назад +2

    Toyota fibs, most auto companies lie, Tesla doesn’t. In the end game Tesla will win. Try to wipe my stupid grin off my face driving my Tesla model Y

  • @ElMistroFeroz
    @ElMistroFeroz Месяц назад +1

    Yeah I’m not wasting any charge cycles into the grid until the degradation situation is resolved. For that to happen, you people have to start obsessing about fast charging times and push EV makers to solve that riddle.

    • @davidbrayshaw3529
      @davidbrayshaw3529 Месяц назад +1

      You'd want to do the maths very carefully before selling battery stored electricity back to the grid. A 13.5 Kwh Powerwall in Australia costs the best part of $15k. It should last about 5,000 cycles. By my calculations, that's about 45 cents per kwh to account for battery degradation alone. Add to that installation cost, invertors, solar panels, finance costs etc, and that number climbs. I can easily see the break even number being around the $1 per kwh. mark, before profit.

    • @juliahello6673
      @juliahello6673 Месяц назад +1

      The lifetime of a battery is defined as when the degradation is 70-80%. It still works.

  • @mikapeltokorpi7671
    @mikapeltokorpi7671 Месяц назад

    Expensive solution when you have waterpower around. And heavily subsidised by the federal government.

  • @user-ll7xm1jv8h
    @user-ll7xm1jv8h 27 дней назад

    Blackouts happen all the time in California

  • @LovenessLife
    @LovenessLife Месяц назад

    Only make sense if you plan to live in California for over 10 years from purchasing battery. ROI... Evil state

  • @pgale
    @pgale Месяц назад

    Can you do a video on EMF a EV gives off please.

    • @user-yp7kt8rn4y
      @user-yp7kt8rn4y Месяц назад +1

      Can you do a video on the EMF blasting off your spark plugs? EV's have already been tested. Only 4% of the allowable EMF reaches the driver. On the other hand, the EMF coming off your wall sockets is 100% of the allowable EMF.

    • @pgale
      @pgale Месяц назад

      @@user-yp7kt8rn4y Can you show me where those figures are please I've seen a few videos where they show alot more then that with the metre.

  • @hjloureiro
    @hjloureiro 27 дней назад

    On July 3, REN used EDP's Cerca solar plant to guarantee the stability of the electrical grid in the system services market. This type of service has been offered mainly by gas and hydroelectric plants. For the first time, REN used energy from a photovoltaic plant. in expresso.pt/economia/economia_energia/2024-07-18-portugal-explora-pela-primeira-vez-energia-solar-como-pronto-socorro-da-rede-eletrica-21888481?Social&Facebook&fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR1xk9EsC_qEeUzHxcJf_djOHFj8m6Foscvd4X7TvbMewMz0gpqTDvMT6RY_aem_1xvmY3XjL6Jc9pPDn9ASEg#Echobox=1721305489

  • @unfixablegop
    @unfixablegop Месяц назад +1

    A compensation of $2 per kwh shows that the system isn't built out yet though. Don't expect future peak compensations above 50 cents per kwh.

    • @chrishaberbosch1029
      @chrishaberbosch1029 Месяц назад

      If it costs the power plants more to supply during peak times then why not? Supply and demand. Have you seen the variability in prices on the Texas grid? Make this look like peanuts.

  • @jjohur
    @jjohur Месяц назад

    I would buy the Tesla Powerwall but the quoted installation is a whopping $6-$7k.
    The California power monopolies are not really supporting solar customers. They keep looking for ways to charge solar customers. The CA CPUC is a joke and is not protecting customers.

  • @Slaytheday388
    @Slaytheday388 Месяц назад

    I live in California and nobody uses Tesla Solar here. The Solar batteries are joke they try to sell them to you but they want like $20,000 extra for a battery. Makes no sense to spend that extra money. One of my buddies bought the Tesla sore powered battery and he was so proud of it. But I paid $99 a month for my solar system with no battery and it over produces the power I need

    • @nicksgarage2
      @nicksgarage2 Месяц назад +1

      That's ridiculous. Lots of people have Tesla solar in California. And the Powerwalls do not cost $20,000. Sounds like you're on a PPA solar plan.

  • @woodywoods3343
    @woodywoods3343 Месяц назад

    We're pretty sure the solar is earthquake prep....🤫🫣half of us are in Vegas already ✌️🌴🌞

  • @snappingclam8801
    @snappingclam8801 25 дней назад

    On the contrary, renewables will bankrupt CA Despite billions "invested" in "green" energy, as of 03:00 20 July gas is providing 59.7% of supply, renewables 0.0%, with batteries drawing 560 MW from the grid. No exactly a green triumph.

  • @Chris-be1fo
    @Chris-be1fo Месяц назад +1

    Using your Tesla car battery to power your house will void the cars warranty

    • @chrishaberbosch1029
      @chrishaberbosch1029 Месяц назад +1

      Cybertruck is the only Tesla currently capable of distributing power and it’s designed to do so.

  • @dus10dnd
    @dus10dnd Месяц назад

    It's pretty easy to fix it. Batteries need to be the third resort.
    1. Shift solar production to time of use, as best as possible. Bifacial panels oriented east/west will better align to usage (peaks in the AM and the PM).
    2. Use dump loads for things you would need otherwise (EV charging, water heating, etc).
    3. Then use batteries for overnight power.
    Using batteries as the "first" solution is bad because it creates unnecessary cycling on the batteries and there are losses in the process.
    California is a big wet blanket. They're not solving anything. Tesla is solving things.

  • @obijuan3004
    @obijuan3004 Месяц назад +1

    More Tesla hype trying to push the stock price.

  • @steveclancy7832
    @steveclancy7832 Месяц назад +1

    And ! Nuclear power is used in california

  • @YoutubeMarc722
    @YoutubeMarc722 Месяц назад

    A car has an average lifetime of 10 years, and each household could have several of them. Powerwalls is one for each house and lasts forever, on top of that, most of europeans and east asians live in appartment buildings, so they are not buying this batteries. And finally, the business model of T powerwall (buy cheap chinesse batteries, pack them and sell them online), it’s very easy to replicate by any competitor. So this bussiness model it’s not sustainable long term.

  • @davidakenson7173
    @davidakenson7173 Месяц назад +1

    I keep saying this- Australia has about 27.5 million people.

  • @nowsc
    @nowsc Месяц назад

    … what’s this business with Elon Musk giving Trump money for the election? I am shocked! Do you know something?

  • @joehowe9532
    @joehowe9532 Месяц назад +1

    The current population of California is close to 40 million people not 14 million; come on Sam get your facts straight before you make a video. 😮

  • @mrmawson2438
    @mrmawson2438 Месяц назад

    Almost afternoon mate

    • @hardi.howdy.983
      @hardi.howdy.983 Месяц назад +2

      You are late!
      Went for an early Sunday morning drink ?

  • @Guvament_bs
    @Guvament_bs Месяц назад +4

    The black out in Melbourne the dude is talking about had about a dozen cars in Canberra plugged in at the time of the black out. There was half a capital city of about 4 million people with out power. The dozen EVs did virtually nothing to assist Melbourne. This is blatant disinformation designed to dupe his fanboys.

    • @hardi.howdy.983
      @hardi.howdy.983 Месяц назад +2

      He would do anything to pump up TSLA 😁

    • @freeheeler09
      @freeheeler09 Месяц назад +3

      BS, we are still near the start of the battery installation wave. Sam is right about utility-scale batteries in California. We’ve had a brutal heatwave in this first half of summer. And utility-scale batteries have picked up the slack during late afternoon and early evening when solar production declines and AC demand goes up. My complaint is that batteries are still too expensive for massive adoption at the home and small-business scales. That’ll be where the big disruption happens. Solar is relatively affordable now. But as home batteries, from Tesla and it’s competitors, become more affordable and common, batteries will be the end of gas peaker plants.And as more of us get EVs, vehicle to grid will disrupt traditional electric utility cartels even more.

    • @Chainyanker007
      @Chainyanker007 Месяц назад

      Just to keep thing straight, Teslas don't have that capability except the CT. Those EVs were not Teslas.

    • @lifeliver9000
      @lifeliver9000 Месяц назад

      My house had a -over cut and we run our house from ev. He’s right and it’s awesome

    • @2bilko
      @2bilko Месяц назад +2

      No one expects a dozen cars to power a city. It was an experiment and it worked. When there are thousands of EVs connected it will make a significant difference.

  • @scasc
    @scasc Месяц назад +5

    The lie: each Sam's content.
    The thruth (different for each Sam's content, we are living in a complex world): California's grid is becoming the most expensive (costs of these batteries, going in chinese's hands, are of course a factor) and the less reliable (physics laws are applicabile in California too, as I calculated many times), so a lot of former California's economy, including Tesla, leaves the state with the relevant consequences.
    All this madness produces a partial decarbonisation of the grid, only in the periods when climate conditons are good, the rest is covered by fossile gas, anyway nothing that is comparable e.g. with France (well below 50g/kWh for the whole year).
    I promise this to you Sam, I'm your worst nightmare, but it is worth the scope to remark the thruth against your lies.
    No nuclear or go nowhere.

    • @huckleberryfinn6578
      @huckleberryfinn6578 Месяц назад +1

      Do you know what batteries are for? They store the electricity produced when the sun is shinning. I have installed 10 kW solar panels and 37.5 kWh of battery storage. My electricity bill went down from 150 Euro to 0! All year around! I don't need any coal power plants or even nuclear.

    • @selanryn5849
      @selanryn5849 Месяц назад

      Thruth?

    • @freeheeler09
      @freeheeler09 Месяц назад

      SC, nuclear will continue to be part of the mix, for now. The problem is that building a nuclear plant is still prohibitively expensive. SMRs may bring prices down, but we haven’t yet seen that at scale.. Meanwhile California also has wind, geothermal, hydro, and as Sam said here, very significant, utility-scale battery storage. And more homeowners are adding batteries. Electricity is about three times more expensive in California than the rest of the country. So, my plan is to take my home and my rentals off grid. Initially very expensive, but cheaper over time than electricity from the corrupt, California utility cartel..