@@Mystery_Man84id strongly disagree with the statement that Hamilton makes better watches than Hanhart. Ive had multiple from both brands over the years.
@@Mystery_Man84I agree that Hamilton is the bigger brand, better known. No doubt. But when it comes to quality its not that close. Id recommend you check out a Hanhart ☺️
Great to see Time Only getting recognition. -Fabio is a gentleman. Truly love this piece but l'm not sure about the oversized clasp logo and no fly-micro adjustment.
The “everyday clock” shines in a different light after a few minutes of occupation. A beautiful piece! I had a similar experience with the VPC Type 37 HW. A “normal watch” that I fell in love with after a few minutes.
As a big fan of Hanhart and tudor. Between this one and the tudor ranger I would definitely go with this one because of german heritage also great price like 1/3 of the Ranger and also the specs of this watch is like a glove fit. Amazing watch! I just love it in the video, don't know how would it look and feel on wrist hats off to Hanhart for this one .
Appreciate your insights, Peter. Look forward to exploring this brand. Heard good things about Hanhart. It is a beautiful and obviously extremely well-made watch meant to last.
Absolutely lovely watch. If I didn’t have MB 1858 I will consider this watch in my collection. MB 1858 is another level, however is also bigger watch. Definitely not for everyone wrist.
I have been looking at the Hamilton Khaki for sometime with some reservations. This Hanhart in blue makes me feel it could be my next watch. I love it. Thanks Peter for the review, I enjoy your work. 👍🏻😀
Well, TGV who did collaborate on the design said they wanted to keep what's making Murph great and make it even better, so no wonder they are quite similar.
Proprietary HD12 hardened steel ! H like the screw-down crown engraved with the historic "H" of Hanhart, D like Diessenhofen, the birthplace of the founder, and of course, 12 on the Vickers hardness scale. To conclude, an ideal watch for doing the GADA.
Hi Peter, amazing production as always. Love your reviews! Perhaps in one of your year end reviews, would u consider making a video on: 1. Top 5 to 8 microbrands (with honorable mentions) that u've seen improve on the quality of their offerings over the years (based on what u'd reviewed), and 2. For the review watches that u'd handled in the past and then returned/given away/no longer in your possession, which 10 of them do you still think fondly of, and would buy it again if u had the chance. Thanks, Rainer
Missed the chance the buy a Hanhart Preventor 9 2nd hand for €450 as I was worried about the size and weight on my slim wrist. Still wished I risked it but this one looks gorgeous and sizing is much better than the Preventor 9.
@@PeterKotsa Sadly sold out on the bracelet direct from Germany and no Hanhart dealers in Finland. That's probably a good thing as I really shouldn't make anymore watches purchases right now. Hopefully it'll come back in stock at the right time.
Great looking watch. If I hadn't just ordered a Clemence Munro I would be very tempted. I agree with another viewer who said you've made the blue look good.
I did not expect material innovation from Hanhart to be honest, but this sounds like a brilliant implementation of steel hardening and seemingly affordable too. Only Vesuviate I believe actually offered hardened steel watches for an affordable price. Now, the field watch styling is definitely attractive. It actually reminds me of my Stoma Partitio, but I do prefer the slight dressiness of the Stowa. For these cathedral hands I prefer Oris' take ( though not a fieldwatch to be strict). I do like Hanhart's second hand. Would be great if Hanhart's innovation rubs off on some other makers.
Looks are ok very Alpinist/ murph but was hoping to hear that it’s using an in house movement. Granted the sw200 is a good movement but it just makes it another standard field watch using an off the shelf movement. For me the heart of a great time piece is its movement and that’s what sets a piece apart from the competition. CW are already using the same movement for less money so why not make it it COSC rated then it becomes a great watch and worth the investment. Also lose the oyster bracelet it’s been done to death and makes it look dated imo.
I can think of a few improvements to this watch apart from the on-the-fly quick adjustment clasp: tighter tolerances between the lugs and end links, maybe slightly raised middle part of the end links (the drawn on indentation lines make it look cheap), decoupling crown upon screw-down (if it doesn't have it yet), and a SW300 option with 56 hours of power reserve. Am I willing to pay more for these? Abso-effin-lutely! I already notified Hanhart on their YT channel and they seem to be open to it.
Thanks as always Peter . I have a 417 in bronze with a copper coloured sunray dial done in collaboration with Revolution and I love it . Fabulous company , it feels like a well kept secret . All the best , Chris Gilling from London .
Best photography ever Pete, that blue looks the business in your shots,thanks again for a professional no nonsense review we can rely on. I was trying to hold off adding to the collection but this is hard to resist especially with Define just up the rd😂 stay well mate.
Great brand & their marking + hands look nearly identical to Oris. I prefer the Hanhart Tachymetre, as it’s very unique and pops with White face & red (optional) strap.
Thanks for bringing this too my attention. Now i'm short $1,000. Ok not really. Just received my Pulsatimer, so my itch has been scratched for now. But this 3 hander is the bees knees! Great deal on a killer watch. Hope to pick one up some day.
Personally I like the Black leather strap on this watch. However, if Hanhart design a better bracelet with on the fly clasp in the future, then I would consider it as an add on
Super interesting the hard steel material, I would love to see more innovations on the materials front, so much carbon wouldn't make it prone to oxidation?
Watch are the ultimate Men's accesories！Enjoyed watching your collection. Keep going！As a watch enthusiast and watch reviewer, I can say AMZWATCH this was a great choice. Enjoyed your video!
Peter, thanks for showing the smaller quality manufacturers 😊 Who needs a date window? The 2 gripes i have are - 1. Its not 44 mm ( although i could live with it 😂) 2. At this present time i cannot afford one 😢
@andrewlevett4274 Mate, I already have a Laco Friedrichshafen 😉. I sadly, am one of those afflicted by the big watches syndrome 😪... and a thin wallet at present 😪
To get some perspective here, the British, US, and German field watches of WWII were 33mm. The Smiths De Lux watch that Sir Edmund Hillary wore when climbing Everest in 1953 was 32mm. Why would any solider, climber, explorer, etc want to tab with a dirty great clock strapped to their wrist? Not that I am complaining about 39mm, but any bigger takes it outside the category of being a field watch IMO.😛
This is such a fantastic watch! The best part is that heritage logo of the brand... and that's the problem, cause when you go there... only their chronographs make a perfect match. Great review and production as always.
Wow, thank you for making me discover this fascinating model and brand! I think this might be my next watch to get, on the bracelet, they are so sporty and stylish. Very split on the colour choice though, any insights or suggestions?
I feel the same way, the back is superb with great depth in that dial, also very practical in its usage However the blues looks wonderful as well....so choices choices 😊
It does look pretty nice but my OCD cannot get over the fact they put a 5th of a second sub second track with an 8 beat per second movement. I get they historically do 5th of a second chronographs/stopwatches, but surely they should have divided the sub second track into 4, not 5 so that it makes technical sense and would look less fussy? Vacheron Constantin do the same with the Overseas three hand!! It's interesting that the Sinn chronograph in your intro does not even have sub second markers.
great review hanhart are my favorite brand got this on order in black ..after getting the aeresphere mfg 5 and the 417 es ..cant get a better combo for under 5k combined
Two questions. 1. Trying to determine the exact shade of blue the dial is. Is it similar to the Tudor Pelagos shade of blue? Or a darker shade? 2. Does the bracelet have the anti-scratch treatment? Is the bracelet as good and tight feeling as a Rolex Oyster?
Id say the blue is close to the Pelagos in my eyes As for the bracelet, someone in the comments mentioned it has around 1000 vickers hardness, however I have not read that anywhere. As far as I know, the case and bezel is 1200 Does it wear like a Rolex Oyster?..well for a bracelet/watch combo costing 1/10 of the price of a Rolex I think it wears superb cheers
love the second hand and the tapering bracelet, i don't care about the old school clasp adjustment as long as it has some adjustment and it's made of good quality. For me the murph has the see through case back, if this had that I would be picking this up for sure and adding a german watch that's missing in my collection
@@PeterKotsa If you're interested Watchmaxe has made a few Hanhart videos recently, if you don't mind translating the German. I think that Hanhart is a great company and makes a great range of watches. I fancy the 417ES 1954 Panda with flyback...
Perhaps Hanhart ought to hire you for their photography! This is the first time the blue doesn’t look comical, and blue is my favorite color! Now it’s back on my list.
Bought this watch about a month ago, absolutely stunning. Had to buy it on the bund but I have the bracelet on order and Im wearing it on a CWC single pull strap at the moment. Buy it
@dokmetasonur no scratches at all, have never had it off my wrist since I bought it. I'll be interested to see how the bracelet holds up when I eventually get it - out of stock at Hanhart - as all my other watches with bracelets have exhibited minor marks and scratches in a relatively short period of time.
Thanks for the review. I’ve been waiting for someone to do an in depth. This may well be one of the ultimate field/tool watches to come around in a while. The bracelet is also hardened (per Hanhart), but only to 1000 vickers. I believe it will wear better, with the straps of your choice, over the bracelet. In particular a Marine National parachute style strap. That style strap should offer more functionality in the field. I expect this watch to be an actual use over show field/tool watch. Oh and I bought one and it will be here this week…my bias is showing. 😂
The eleven seems too small. Also, I don't like that it sez "Preventor" on the dial. What is one preventing? I like to just let stuff happen...let the chips fall as they may. Otherwise, it's delicious.
I would have agreed about this brand and the tradition of German watchmaking and the prices it commands, but I have discovered POINTec and their brands; Junkers, Zeppelin, Bauhaus, Ruhla and I am impressed with the quality they manufacturing in Germany and the price points they are offering these watches.
No-brainer beauty, a lovely, honest piece. The blue is gorgeous. I could have that as a one-watch. There's nothing I don't like about it. Oh, and those hands, are they sweet or what. Cheers Pete, very nice vid 👍
Thank you for your awesome videos and reviews. I am currently considering a do it all high quality watch that can be dressed up and do daily tasks reliably: i already own an Oris Aquis Date 43,5mm which is love. Aquis is in blue and it's beautiful, however it is a bit too sporty for some occasions. I have considered a Hanhart Preventor HD12 in black with a bracelet or Baltic Aquascaphe Dual Crown in Black with a rubber strap. Which one would you personally go for out of these two?
I dont understand why some watches are criticised for copying designs and others not? This is exact same design as the murph. Not similar, basically the same? Which brand did this design first? Im usually first to defend similar designs but this is a near 1:1 design with the murph? Am I missing something?
How many mm of extension does the extension link provide? It’s hard to tell from the video, but it looks like it’s about 10mm, which would make it effectively useless in terms of practicality. Thanks for the awesome review!
@@PeterKotsa Thanks for the response, Peter! How anyone at Hanhart thought that was a good idea is beyond me. Bruh, effectively no one is going to go diving with this watch. Wearing a watch over the wrist or over gloves is such a niche application. If they can make a 10-12 mm extension link, they could just have easily made a Rolex-esque 5 mm extension link that would’ve been useful to a much wider range of consumers. I love the brand, but I’m baffled by how they could make such a clear and obvious mistake.
I'm a 6.5 inch wrist, and I prefer my three hand watches at 36mm and bezeled watches at 38 mm. But different people prefer different aesthetics @@DrDjDD
Great review..and channel. You are right...I prefer not to have the seconds hand a point of interest-personal preference. I think I am in the minority. Impossible to meet all enthusiasts requirements. Tudor Ranger was crossed off my list also. Keep up the good work. Thank you.
Peter I’ve been hanging off buying the Sinn 556 RS for awhile. Then this appears ain’t making it easier!😵💫🤤 Already owning the Hanhart 417 ES Edition is kinda making the decision for another Hanhart a tad easier. The quality & specs in general are very good & this one is definitely the same, if not better!👍🏻
Unfortunately the Sinn doesn’t offer Tegimented for the RS That’s why I think Hanhart has really stepped up here in this model For me it’s a game changer 👍
Nice but not really my thing. Enjoyed the vid as always , hope your good peter. Just bought another tudor , the chrono s and g, when i really didnt need one , got it for an amazing price , but its still no excuse. Its a sickness , but i am loving the watch, lol.
@@PeterKotsa I'm gifting my son , my older tudor , for his 32 birthday, as he's always wanted it. He simply can't afford one , so I know he will appreciate it . Its nice to be in a position in life , to be able to do it. I will probably get the bill , when it finally needs a service too , lol . Bloody kids , cost you a fortune , lol.
Thanks Peter. I really want to get my hands on a watch from this brand, I’ve been interested in them for some time now. This looks the bee’s knees on the leather strap. 👌🏻
The most underrated watch in existence is the Chinese made Addiesdive Deepseahunter. No joke. For what it cost, it’s made me really think about why I’ve spent so much money on watches and why watch companies expect people to pay so much money for what they actually get.
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Honestly, it’s the Murph that Hamilton WISH they made. Same classic looks with all the proper refinement and specs you’d want. Lovely.
I don’t think Hamilton wishes they made that. Hamilton makes better watches than this.
@@Mystery_Man84id strongly disagree with the statement that Hamilton makes better watches than Hanhart. Ive had multiple from both brands over the years.
@@stephencrook4177 this is the first time I’ve heard of Hanhart. I do, however, know that Hamilton has the rich history & Heritage.
@@Mystery_Man84I agree that Hamilton is the bigger brand, better known. No doubt. But when it comes to quality its not that close. Id recommend you check out a Hanhart ☺️
Nah. It's a shitter.
Massive Hanhart fan here. Incredible new release. I'm currently saving up for a 417. Cheers.
Good choice!
My grail has been a 417es reverse panda for ages now, but this is making me rethink that. Glad to see another Hanhart enthusiast 👍
Same here, Barry.
YEP…! i used a Handhart stopwatch for work for years…love ‘em, beyond under rated….❤
Great to see Time Only getting recognition. -Fabio is a gentleman. Truly love this piece but l'm not sure about the oversized clasp logo and no fly-micro adjustment.
The “everyday clock” shines in a different light after a few minutes of occupation. A beautiful piece!
I had a similar experience with the VPC Type 37 HW. A “normal watch” that I fell in love with after a few minutes.
As a big fan of Hanhart and tudor. Between this one and the tudor ranger I would definitely go with this one because of german heritage also great price like 1/3 of the Ranger and also the specs of this watch is like a glove fit. Amazing watch! I just love it in the video, don't know how would it look and feel on wrist hats off to Hanhart for this one .
Appreciate your insights, Peter. Look forward to exploring this brand. Heard good things about Hanhart. It is a beautiful and obviously extremely well-made watch meant to last.
These are the types of watches that appeal to me. High quality, tough accurate with a price that makes sense.
Absolutely lovely watch. If I didn’t have MB 1858 I will consider this watch in my collection. MB 1858 is another level, however is also bigger watch. Definitely not for everyone wrist.
I'm all over the black dial on leather strap. All class
Have the black dial watch on my wrist and i love it, i was looking for a watch like this for a year or more and when i saw it i knew i need to buy it
Good choice 👍
Did you get it on the bund strap?
@PeterKotsa yea, the bracelet was sold out, costs 200€ more and I have a nice nato which fits perfectly with the watch
I have been looking at the Hamilton Khaki for sometime with some reservations. This Hanhart in blue makes me feel it could be my next watch. I love it. Thanks Peter for the review, I enjoy your work. 👍🏻😀
Thanks for the feedback Daryl 👍
The handset on this watch is incredible!
Very nice man ! Reminds me of the Hamilton Khaki Murph 38mm which I also love 👌
Well, TGV who did collaborate on the design said they wanted to keep what's making Murph great and make it even better, so no wonder they are quite similar.
Proprietary HD12 hardened steel !
H like the screw-down crown engraved with the historic "H" of Hanhart,
D like Diessenhofen, the birthplace of the founder,
and of course, 12 on the Vickers hardness scale.
To conclude, an ideal watch for doing the GADA.
Hi Peter, amazing production as always. Love your reviews! Perhaps in one of your year end reviews, would u consider making a video on: 1. Top 5 to 8 microbrands (with honorable mentions) that u've seen improve on the quality of their offerings over the years (based on what u'd reviewed), and 2. For the review watches that u'd handled in the past and then returned/given away/no longer in your possession, which 10 of them do you still think fondly of, and would buy it again if u had the chance. Thanks, Rainer
Excellent idea
I’ve actually been thinking of something along similar lines
Thanks Rainer 👍
@@PeterKotsa We should be thanking u for the amazing content Peter! And great! Looking forward! :)
Missed the chance the buy a Hanhart Preventor 9 2nd hand for €450 as I was worried about the size and weight on my slim wrist. Still wished I risked it but this one looks gorgeous and sizing is much better than the Preventor 9.
With this case tech, you can’t go wrong
@@PeterKotsa Sadly sold out on the bracelet direct from Germany and no Hanhart dealers in Finland. That's probably a good thing as I really shouldn't make anymore watches purchases right now. Hopefully it'll come back in stock at the right time.
Looks like they got this one just right. Great video.
Another great video, Peter. Keep it up!
Many thanks!
Great looking watch. If I hadn't just ordered a Clemence Munro I would be very tempted. I agree with another viewer who said you've made the blue look good.
I did not expect material innovation from Hanhart to be honest, but this sounds like a brilliant implementation of steel hardening and seemingly affordable too. Only Vesuviate I believe actually offered hardened steel watches for an affordable price. Now, the field watch styling is definitely attractive. It actually reminds me of my Stoma Partitio, but I do prefer the slight dressiness of the Stowa. For these cathedral hands I prefer Oris' take ( though not a fieldwatch to be strict). I do like Hanhart's second hand. Would be great if Hanhart's innovation rubs off on some other makers.
Hanhart is way underappreciated, although it really is a great watch company. Excellent episode!
Totally agree Alix
Cheers brother
Looks are ok very Alpinist/ murph but was hoping to hear that it’s using an in house movement. Granted the sw200 is a good movement but it just makes it another standard field watch using an off the shelf movement. For me the heart of a great time piece is its movement and that’s what sets a piece apart from the competition. CW are already using the same movement for less money so why not make it it COSC rated then it becomes a great watch and worth the investment. Also lose the oyster bracelet it’s been done to death and makes it look dated imo.
I can think of a few improvements to this watch apart from the on-the-fly quick adjustment clasp: tighter tolerances between the lugs and end links, maybe slightly raised middle part of the end links (the drawn on indentation lines make it look cheap), decoupling crown upon screw-down (if it doesn't have it yet), and a SW300 option with 56 hours of power reserve.
Am I willing to pay more for these? Abso-effin-lutely! I already notified Hanhart on their YT channel and they seem to be open to it.
Just got one. They don't disappoint.
Congrats..enjoy 👍
Thanks as always Peter . I have a 417 in bronze with a copper coloured sunray dial done in collaboration with Revolution and I love it . Fabulous company , it feels like a well kept secret .
All the best ,
Chris Gilling from London .
Bravo 👍
Would personally prefer this at 36/37 mm, but awesome package for sure
It looks like a very durable timepiece, and a fair price for alot of watch! I'll definitely check it out!
I was actually a little sad to send these two back...😊
Now do I get rid of a watch from my collection so I can add this?....ahhh decisions decisions 😂
Funny how just a red tip can make a watch design pop off. Looks fantastic. I’ve had my eye on Hanhart for a while.
Best photography ever Pete, that blue looks the business in your shots,thanks again for a professional no nonsense review we can rely on. I was trying to hold off adding to the collection but this is hard to resist especially with Define just up the rd😂 stay well mate.
Hahaha...get hands on with it and try it on..I am sure you will be pleasantly surprised by this watches detail and overall feel Curt
cheers brother
@@PeterKotsa that’s what worries me Pete.😀
@@curt4930 😂
Great brand & their marking + hands look nearly identical to Oris.
I prefer the Hanhart Tachymetre, as it’s very unique and pops with White face & red (optional) strap.
Just a stunning piece. Honestly who needs an explorer with this ?
Thanks for bringing this too my attention. Now i'm short $1,000. Ok not really. Just received my Pulsatimer, so my itch has been scratched for now. But this 3 hander is the bees knees! Great deal on a killer watch. Hope to pick one up some day.
Would you go for the bracelet or the black leather strap?
Personally I like the Black leather strap on this watch.
However, if Hanhart design a better bracelet with on the fly clasp in the future, then I would consider it as an add on
Super interesting the hard steel material, I would love to see more innovations on the materials front, so much carbon wouldn't make it prone to oxidation?
Your enthusiasm is amazing Peter. Great review of a very impressive piece. Thank you.
Love this hobby 👍
The blue dial comes of a bit „bright“ in pictures and videos. I wonder if this is also the case in real life or if the blue looks a bit darker there?
Watch are the ultimate Men's accesories！Enjoyed watching your collection. Keep going！As a watch enthusiast and watch reviewer, I can say AMZWATCH this was a great choice. Enjoyed your video!
40-42mm and I'd get one tomorrow.
Peter, thanks for showing the smaller quality manufacturers 😊
Who needs a date window?
The 2 gripes i have are -
1. Its not 44 mm ( although i could live with it 😂)
2. At this present time i cannot afford one 😢
😋😂
44mm field watch? I think you may need to look at pilot watches.
@andrewlevett4274 Mate, I already have a Laco Friedrichshafen 😉.
I sadly, am one of those afflicted by the big watches syndrome 😪... and a thin wallet at present 😪
To get some perspective here, the British, US, and German field watches of WWII were 33mm. The Smiths De Lux watch that Sir Edmund Hillary wore when climbing Everest in 1953 was 32mm. Why would any solider, climber, explorer, etc want to tab with a dirty great clock strapped to their wrist? Not that I am complaining about 39mm, but any bigger takes it outside the category of being a field watch IMO.😛
This is such a fantastic watch! The best part is that heritage logo of the brand... and that's the problem, cause when you go there... only their chronographs make a perfect match.
Great review and production as always.
Thanks Igor
Wow, thank you for making me discover this fascinating model and brand! I think this might be my next watch to get, on the bracelet, they are so sporty and stylish. Very split on the colour choice though, any insights or suggestions?
I feel the same way, the back is superb with great depth in that dial, also very practical in its usage
However the blues looks wonderful as well....so choices choices 😊
Excellent watch. Just nitpicking I would like crystal case back. As I appreciate the watch works.
It does look pretty nice but my OCD cannot get over the fact they put a 5th of a second sub second track with an 8 beat per second movement.
I get they historically do 5th of a second chronographs/stopwatches, but surely they should have divided the sub second track into 4, not 5 so that it makes technical sense and would look less fussy?
Vacheron Constantin do the same with the Overseas three hand!!
It's interesting that the Sinn chronograph in your intro does not even have sub second markers.
great review hanhart are my favorite brand got this on order in black ..after getting the aeresphere mfg 5 and the 417 es ..cant get a better combo for under 5k combined
Two questions. 1. Trying to determine the exact shade of blue the dial is. Is it similar to the Tudor Pelagos shade of blue? Or a darker shade? 2. Does the bracelet have the anti-scratch treatment? Is the bracelet as good and tight feeling as a Rolex Oyster?
Id say the blue is close to the Pelagos in my eyes
As for the bracelet, someone in the comments mentioned it has around 1000 vickers hardness, however I have not read that anywhere. As far as I know, the case and bezel is 1200
Does it wear like a Rolex Oyster?..well for a bracelet/watch combo costing 1/10 of the price of a Rolex I think it wears superb
cheers
Hanhart Aquasphere has landed! Diver!
love the second hand and the tapering bracelet, i don't care about the old school clasp adjustment as long as it has some adjustment and it's made of good quality. For me the murph has the see through case back, if this had that I would be picking this up for sure and adding a german watch that's missing in my collection
Hi Peter, this is a fabulous watch from a really good manufacturer. Thank you for this, have a great week, Bob
My pleasure
@@PeterKotsa If you're interested Watchmaxe has made a few Hanhart videos recently, if you don't mind translating the German. I think that Hanhart is a great company and makes a great range of watches. I fancy the 417ES 1954 Panda with flyback...
Perhaps Hanhart ought to hire you for their photography! This is the first time the blue doesn’t look comical, and blue is my favorite color! Now it’s back on my list.
I try and show all watches in their true light 👍
Very nice watch, I wonder if they plan to put HD12 into the 417 chronos at some point 😲
Bought this watch about a month ago, absolutely stunning. Had to buy it on the bund but I have the bracelet on order and Im wearing it on a CWC single pull strap at the moment.
Buy it
How this watch is holding up. any scratches yet?
@dokmetasonur no scratches at all, have never had it off my wrist since I bought it. I'll be interested to see how the bracelet holds up when I eventually get it - out of stock at Hanhart - as all my other watches with bracelets have exhibited minor marks and scratches in a relatively short period of time.
Thanks for the review. I’ve been waiting for someone to do an in depth. This may well be one of the ultimate field/tool watches to come around in a while. The bracelet is also hardened (per Hanhart), but only to 1000 vickers. I believe it will wear better, with the straps of your choice, over the bracelet. In particular a Marine National parachute style strap. That style strap should offer more functionality in the field. I expect this watch to be an actual use over show field/tool watch. Oh and I bought one and it will be here this week…my bias is showing. 😂
😂😋
Congrats and enjoy
The eleven seems too small. Also, I don't like that it sez "Preventor" on the dial. What is one preventing? I like to just let stuff happen...let the chips fall as they may. Otherwise, it's delicious.
Picked up the black dial. Define Watches are first class to deal with in OZ.
Enjoy 👍
I would have agreed about this brand and the tradition of German watchmaking and the prices it commands, but I have discovered POINTec and their brands; Junkers, Zeppelin, Bauhaus, Ruhla and I am impressed with the quality they manufacturing in Germany and the price points they are offering these watches.
hi peter,
amazing watch and incredible value. keep up the good work!
Thanks Ed, will do!
Looks great. The only criticism I have is the spacing between the letters ‘t’ and ‘o’ in the word ‘preventor’ it has too much space.
No-brainer beauty, a lovely, honest piece. The blue is gorgeous.
I could have that as a one-watch. There's nothing I don't like about it. Oh, and those hands, are they sweet or what.
Cheers Pete, very nice vid 👍
Totally agree John, tastefully designed inho 👍
Thank you for your awesome videos and reviews. I am currently considering a do it all high quality watch that can be dressed up and do daily tasks reliably: i already own an Oris Aquis Date 43,5mm which is love. Aquis is in blue and it's beautiful, however it is a bit too sporty for some occasions. I have considered a Hanhart Preventor HD12 in black with a bracelet or Baltic Aquascaphe Dual Crown in Black with a rubber strap. Which one would you personally go for out of these two?
Personally I like the black HD12 but in leather bund strap
That’s just me
@@PeterKotsa awesome, i was leaning that way. Can you expand a bit please?
Very tasteful and understated in typical Teutonic fashion. Rather like an old Mercedes. Nice review as always Peter.
Nothing wrong with an old Merc brother 👍
Love the brand and their watches. Happy they have kept the bigger sizes in their line up. Under 40 is just too small for my 19cm wrist.
I am looking for a blue dial watch for my collection
There are a lot watch companies that have been reborn. The reborn watch. I like Is the Nivada Gretchen Super Anartic .
it's very pleasing to this video, good info and video
Beautiful. Why does it remind me of the Hamilton "Murph?"
Fantastic timepiece! I have to agree with you Peter, Hanhart is very very underrated.
Santa, I've been really good this year! A very handsome timepiece.
Beautiful watch. Hanhart makes excellent pieces.
I agree...timeless 👍
Thanks @PeterKosta just pulled the pin !
Congrats Gary, enjoy the watch 👍
Hello Peter… i really like the Watch ant the brand… y he only concern is that I have the Hamilton Murph 38 and it ir REALLY similar
Essentially the same layout and design
The main differences are the hardened steel and the movement is 28,800 on the Hanhart with around 38hrs
When compared to the Nivada Grenchen Super Antartic, who wins?
I dont understand why some watches are criticised for copying designs and others not? This is exact same design as the murph. Not similar, basically the same? Which brand did this design first? Im usually first to defend similar designs but this is a near 1:1 design with the murph? Am I missing something?
How many mm of extension does the extension link provide? It’s hard to tell from the video, but it looks like it’s about 10mm, which would make it effectively useless in terms of practicality. Thanks for the awesome review!
Yes around 10-12mm
Also 3 micro holes
@@PeterKotsa Thanks for the response, Peter! How anyone at Hanhart thought that was a good idea is beyond me. Bruh, effectively no one is going to go diving with this watch. Wearing a watch over the wrist or over gloves is such a niche application. If they can make a 10-12 mm extension link, they could just have easily made a Rolex-esque 5 mm extension link that would’ve been useful to a much wider range of consumers. I love the brand, but I’m baffled by how they could make such a clear and obvious mistake.
@@justinjrr I agree.
That said, I prefer this watch on the Leather bund strap personally 👍
Thanks for the nice review. This one looks really fantastic! I wouldn't hesitate a second if it was 36-37 mm...
How big or rather small is your wrist? Even at this size this watch is way too small for me?
Rather small (16,5 cm). The black bay 36 fits perfectly, the Sinn 556 is still ok, but not perfect (38 mm). So I guess 39 would be too much.
@@hbgghx5764
Most of the watches Pete reviews are too small for me, 23cm/25cm wrist size or 8, 5 +
inches, depends, summer or winter time.
I'm a 6.5 inch wrist, and I prefer my three hand watches at 36mm and bezeled watches at 38 mm. But different people prefer different aesthetics @@DrDjDD
@@hbgghx5764 I have a 16.5cm wrist and my HD12 wears very well, it actually feels like it wears slightly smaller than 39mm
Very clean look.
The seconds hand is a touch quirky, yet endearing.
As always, excellent review.
cheers
Thats a nice looking watch!
I got mine in blue dial a week ago. Beautiful watch
Great review & beautiful watch. Love my 417
Good choice on the 417 Stephen
Red tip on seconds hand provides pop... is that what a 3 hand no date tool watch needs?
Maybe, just to add some point of interest 👍
Great review..and channel. You are right...I prefer not to have the seconds hand a point of interest-personal preference. I think I am in the minority. Impossible to meet all enthusiasts requirements. Tudor Ranger was crossed off my list also. Keep up the good work. Thank you.
If it didn't have the SW-200 I would consider this timepiece
Screwed bracelet links. It gets my approval.
Great looking watches
Peter I’ve been hanging off buying the Sinn 556 RS for awhile. Then this appears ain’t making it easier!😵💫🤤 Already owning the Hanhart 417 ES Edition is kinda making the decision for another Hanhart a tad easier. The quality & specs in general are very good & this one is definitely the same, if not better!👍🏻
Unfortunately the Sinn doesn’t offer Tegimented for the RS
That’s why I think Hanhart has really stepped up here in this model
For me it’s a game changer 👍
Getting into the German watches. Picked up a Sinn 104 and have my eye on this next.
I'm searching for a 1000 €
36 mm or 37 swiss movement gada watch (Datejust, Aquaterra territory) for a year. Advices?
Christopher Ward C63 Sealander (36mm) or C65 Dune (38mm)
Nice but not really my thing. Enjoyed the vid as always , hope your good peter. Just bought another tudor , the chrono s and g, when i really didnt need one , got it for an amazing price , but its still no excuse. Its a sickness , but i am loving the watch, lol.
Haha, keep that collection in check brother...don't let it get out of control 😊👍
Congrats on the Tudor btw
@@PeterKotsa I'm gifting my son , my older tudor , for his 32 birthday, as he's always wanted it. He simply can't afford one , so I know he will appreciate it . Its nice to be in a position in life , to be able to do it. I will probably get the bill , when it finally needs a service too , lol . Bloody kids , cost you a fortune , lol.
@@martinharrison4245 hahah..you're a good man, well done brother
I really like that dark deep blue dial, but I have to say this looks almost exactly like the Hamilton Murph.
Thanks Peter. I really want to get my hands on a watch from this brand, I’ve been interested in them for some time now. This looks the bee’s knees on the leather strap. 👌🏻
I agree, love this in the leather, so hanhart , so German 🇩🇪👍
Great review , a great explorer type watch with its own identity, if i didnt have a clemence munro on order id seriously consider this one, cheers.
The most underrated watch in existence is the Chinese made Addiesdive Deepseahunter. No joke. For what it cost, it’s made me really think about why I’ve spent so much money on watches and why watch companies expect people to pay so much money for what they actually get.
Does the lume last through the night? Thanks!
No really, its not a dive watch lume thats for sure
It's a brilliant watch indeed. The perfect daily driver for many.
Beutifull watch ⭐️⭐️⭐️.. and i can agree, OTF adjustable clasp should have made it top 👌🏻..
Such an underrated brand. Love my 417 ES!
That is a beautiful watch. Thank you for sharing.
I agree Peter…very cool and wears like a dream
Its hard to beat for what it is. Home run.
I’ve been waiting for this review. I hoped you would get it!
Well all I can say is that the watch delivers 👍
Nice one. Now gimme that Bracelet for the Pioneer One. I´d love to wear it more often but don´t because of "Strap only".
Much more attractive than Tudor Ranger