Just drilled a hyped hybrid and nova today, did two games with each and like how they fit my arsenal. I can't wait to get my hands on the super nova now!
WOW. If there's another ball I would get, it would clearly be the Super Nova--it would clearly be better for me than the Nova or the Night Road because of the "tumbly" roll, which reminds me kind of my Omega Crux. Of course, that reminds me of considering the Phaze 4 too if I'm going to get another soon. You included great views from Angel and nailed it when you commented on all of the performance differences, because I could see the ball move and what you said verbalized well what I was seeing. The Super Nova is definitely more versatile; it also makes me conclude that the Super Nova is far better for my game than the Gem or the Proton. So in all that information, you helped me eliminate the Nova, Gem, RST X-3 and Night Road from my potential buying choices. Very helpful and thanks for the great commentary and content! Also, please CONTINUE to list the core and cover comparison chart, as that really helps see some of the "measurable" differences in the ball lines you compare: it should be a great visual for most to start off with.
What a great video. Finally, a question has been answered between the supernova and the proton. In other videos, I’ve seen with them separate they seem very similar. The supernova seems a lot slower. It looks just ass or even stronger than the proton. The proton seems a little faster, but in the right situations, they look incredible. It goes to show that even we have a different layout or ball speed or whatever the case may be the right/style can vary.
It's so hard being a bowler who's local house is extremely high friction (low-oil and wood surface) and watching all this new stuff come out. I can't even imagine I'd put my Helios out here, but some people have put up 900's with it. Insane.
I visited my sister and nephew in Lawrence last weekend. I decided to stop by Royal Crest Lanes to bowl a bit before heading back to Texas. Really nice house, but I was sad I didn't get to meet you, but I was probably there too early in the day. Love the videos!
I have a Nova sitting at home that I'm waiting to get drilled. Now I see this, I want this so I can pair the two together. And now that I've looked up the scent, I want it even more. It's always my dream to have my bag smell like a 7-11 Slurpee machine.
Yet again Luke offers the insight the average bowler needs to understand ball reaction and make informed decisions, but other reviewers are too lazy or inexperienced to touch on. His working knowledge of ball reaction is ultra impressive. Keep on mate!
I’m a newer bowler, just finished up first half of league, of which the last half I upgraded from a conventional drill tropical surge to a fingertip supernova. I’m still learning and have a low rev rate, videos like this help me understand what the cover/core differences are but I am still not 100% there on understanding. Thanks!
I was already thinking about this ball when it was released overseas a couple of weeks ago. Seeing y'all throw it really shows how versatile is. Can't wait to drill one, likely pin down to tame it down a tad bit. Btw you've also convinced me to finally pull the plug on the UC3 + some shine. Keep it up man! love the vids.
Great review again Luke, I feel that the Nova is so overlooked right now amongst the current catalog of balls, I jus threw my 2nd 300 with mine and after watching I’m sure to grab the Super to make a strong 1-2 punch
That’s is a great video, ‘just what I needed to hear and see, Proton, Nova,S.Nova, Seeing how angel rolled it, the proton & S.Nova was incredibly. James does a great job too. Thank you
Woah, mind blown. @2:18 Angel released the ball where the axis point was actually on the right side of the ball pointing towards the ceiling above lane 23. I can't even comprehend how that is physically possible.
Wha? She got around it and spun it, but the axis point was near the bottom of the ball pointing down into the lane . . I think we're doin a heckin miscommunication here lol
Ball motion kind of reminds me of my OG Lock. That ball was stupid good.... Shot 1638 for a 6 game set at a tournament with it. Would this be a good replacement?
Thanks as always for informative and logical reviews... I'm looking to replace my beloved original UFO. Do you think the Super Nova or Gem would accomplish that better for a straighter up the back stroker/tweener?
I had a UFO and have a Gem, and the Gem is stronger. For me, the Gem is more like a Gravity Evolve. Both of these hook earlier, whereas the UFO would get down the lane a bit easier and have more energy at the end of the pattern.
I've been needing a new top of the arsenal ball for a bit now, Alert and Phaze 2 are my "strongest" at the moment. I throw similiar to Angel, maybe mile ish faster and I love 2 to 3rd arrow. Teammate w similar speed/rev has Gem but it only looks good half of 1st game most nights. I'm thinking the Super Nova would be a perfect #1 ball and be enough a ball up for me to not overlap my 2nd balls. Thanx for Vid!
I know Angel really likes her Nova and Infinite, and this one looks great for her too. Would the Super Nova pair well with the Nova without a ball in between? Love my Nova and looking for something above it. Enjoying your videos immensely. Thanks!
I'm on a hunt for a heavy oil ball for the fresh and I've been torn between this or the Reality. I'm a no thumb bowler which is pretty much close to 2 handed, I actually use the 2LS system for my equipment. Watching James throw the Super Nova as a pin down it has great control with great performance which makes me want to use my new weaker/control layout ( which is a custom stronger 2LS 1 ) for the Super Nova. I LOVE the Nova and I LOVE the Altered Reality ( which is why I'm torn between the Reality or the Super Nova ). I feel watching this video has made me lean more towards the Super Nova due to the amount of control James put out with it. I feel the first out of bad should have more control. The Reality is earlier and it looks stronger in my eyes which may not workout for me. What are your thoughts? any advise would be helpful!
I have a drilled and a NIB Reality... they're both about to get sold so I can stock up on the Super Nova... literally putting my money where my mouth is. Can't say much more than that LOL I actually think the Reality and SN are similar on traction/length, the SN just blends and tumbles a bit better. Reality creates an absolutely sick shot-shape but can give some nasty taps for higher rev rates and the angles they create if that makes sense.
If you are medium speed I’d go supernova but if you have high speed I’d go reality. I say this just because I think the super has a little more control too based on the video and what shots I’ve thrown with it. I have two reality’s and the reality seems to be a little sharper and stronger overall for me. Hopefully this helps steer you in the right direction. I am also a two hander 450-500 rev with 17-18 mph
So I’d heard some rumors that the Super was designed to replace the Proton… but it looks like they stand on their own and could exist together in the same line. You think the Proton is in danger of getting discontinued?
The Dark Code hasn't been discontinued yet, and the Infinite being released virtually on top of it says the same thing in theory, that it's a replacement, but same deal here, they can stand on their own I think, so I'm not sure.
Completely different? It was pin up vs pin down, the other numbers were the same or virtually the same. It further adds to the point though, with the original being pin up, it should have been more dynamic than the Super, but it wasn't, which further drives home the point about the cover formulas.
4.5 x 4.5 x 4 on the Super Nova, 4.5 x 4 x 2.5 on the Nova... aside from the up/down those are some VERY close layout numbers. And as Luke accurately noted... the fact that the Nova was the slower and less directional change ball of the two even with the more dynamic layout just emphasizes how much more of an effect NeX vs R2X has on these two balls.
Love the pin down layout. I prefer pin down on stronger stuff myself. And pin up on weaker equipment. This ball looks so good! It’s hard to pick between the Reality and Super Nova for the big solid asym spot. Which do you think would compliment the Rubicon?
@@ShimWreckerEnterprises It does seem to do everything very well across the board! So Super Nova, Infinite Physix, Rubicon (possibly shined up Rubicon) for the 3 big ball slots. My bag is set up where when one thing is either burning up or is to sharp I can ball down. Without having to move.
I don’t see what you see with the nova my nova looks like the super for James, I personally can’t use it till I am at fourth arrow throwing at the gutter for how much it reacts off the dry
On a house shot with less volume I can hook the Nova a good bit more. The house shot at RCL is pretty soupy in the middle of the lane and I rarely need covers on the medium to medium-weak end (R2X Hyb is pretty medium-ish) there because they just won't pick up properly... and you can kinda see that here with how the OG Nova behaves.
Hey luke, I was wondering whether or not you had an idea on how polish would look with this ball. Ik this ball is versatile with lane play changes, but do you have an idea on how surface changes would work with this ball?
Yep, I'm actually working on the sport video, should have that up in a couple days. They came pretty close to 4k, Angel threw hers out of the box, James took his to 3k, then we took it to 2k for the sport video.
I didn't do this for a video, but I did try my Super Nova at 4k fast. NeX Solid responds in an interesting way to shine... it doesn't really get QUICKER, just gets further downlane and not as defined in the mids because of less traction. I like how it responds better with surface so I'm back to keeping it right around box. This generally seems to mirror the Axiom in that it seems much happier with surface than shine on it from what I've experienced and seen... but if you like the Axiom with shine I think you'd like this one with shine as well. Hope that helps!
From the Nova or itself? It would have been even further away from the Nova, because pin up would have made it earlier and more dynamic, but pin up vs pin down isn't a tooon of difference. Little earlier and stronger overall.
While on the topic of big rev rates and transition, I’d like to ask you guys a question: People often complain about my rev rate blowing up a pattern (even in house leagues). My response is always the same: “a big rev rate on its own doesn’t ruin a pattern as much as people who can’t hit what they’re looking at.” Do you guys agree with this assessment? In other words, would you say that a big rev rate with accuracy breaks patterns down more predictably than a bunch of sprayers with lower rev rates?
@@ShimWreckerEnterprises totally agree. And if those people aren’t capable of moving left of our transition in order to take advantage of it, that’s not our problem. At least that’s how I look at it.
It is at RCL, yes. It doesn't like to see a ton of volume but give it friction and it can move quite a bit. Just too much soup in the middle of the lane on the RCL house shot for mid-strength covers like on the Nova to be able to make the corner.
Thanks as always for informative and logical reviews... I'm looking to replace my beloved original UFO. Do you think the Super Nova or Gem would accomplish that better for a straighter up the back stroker/tweener?
I guess you could say, it has a Vivid color scheme. Yeaaahhhhhh!
Just drilled a hyped hybrid and nova today, did two games with each and like how they fit my arsenal. I can't wait to get my hands on the super nova now!
WOW. If there's another ball I would get, it would clearly be the Super Nova--it would clearly be better for me than the Nova or the Night Road because of the "tumbly" roll, which reminds me kind of my Omega Crux. Of course, that reminds me of considering the Phaze 4 too if I'm going to get another soon.
You included great views from Angel and nailed it when you commented on all of the performance differences, because I could see the ball move and what you said verbalized well what I was seeing. The Super Nova is definitely more versatile; it also makes me conclude that the Super Nova is far better for my game than the Gem or the Proton. So in all that information, you helped me eliminate the Nova, Gem, RST X-3 and Night Road from my potential buying choices. Very helpful and thanks for the great commentary and content!
Also, please CONTINUE to list the core and cover comparison chart, as that really helps see some of the "measurable" differences in the ball lines you compare: it should be a great visual for most to start off with.
What a great video. Finally, a question has been answered between the supernova and the proton. In other videos, I’ve seen with them separate they seem very similar. The supernova seems a lot slower. It looks just ass or even stronger than the proton. The proton seems a little faster, but in the right situations, they look incredible. It goes to show that even we have a different layout or ball speed or whatever the case may be the right/style can vary.
It's so hard being a bowler who's local house is extremely high friction (low-oil and wood surface) and watching all this new stuff come out. I can't even imagine I'd put my Helios out here, but some people have put up 900's with it. Insane.
I’ve been replacing the surface on balls for at least 10 years. You’ll never replicate any surface from the factory. Save yourself the hassle
I visited my sister and nephew in Lawrence last weekend. I decided to stop by Royal Crest Lanes to bowl a bit before heading back to Texas. Really nice house, but I was sad I didn't get to meet you, but I was probably there too early in the day. Love the videos!
I have a Nova sitting at home that I'm waiting to get drilled. Now I see this, I want this so I can pair the two together.
And now that I've looked up the scent, I want it even more. It's always my dream to have my bag smell like a 7-11 Slurpee machine.
Yet again Luke offers the insight the average bowler needs to understand ball reaction and make informed decisions, but other reviewers are too lazy or inexperienced to touch on. His working knowledge of ball reaction is ultra impressive. Keep on mate!
I’m a newer bowler, just finished up first half of league, of which the last half I upgraded from a conventional drill tropical surge to a fingertip supernova. I’m still learning and have a low rev rate, videos like this help me understand what the cover/core differences are but I am still not 100% there on understanding. Thanks!
I was already thinking about this ball when it was released overseas a couple of weeks ago. Seeing y'all throw it really shows how versatile is. Can't wait to drill one, likely pin down to tame it down a tad bit. Btw you've also convinced me to finally pull the plug on the UC3 + some shine. Keep it up man! love the vids.
Great review again Luke, I feel that the Nova is so overlooked right now amongst the current catalog of balls, I jus threw my 2nd 300 with mine and after watching I’m sure to grab the Super to make a strong 1-2 punch
SuperNova Vs RST X3
That’s is a great video, ‘just what I needed to hear and see, Proton, Nova,S.Nova,
Seeing how angel rolled it, the proton & S.Nova was incredibly.
James does a great job too.
Thank you
Sorry if you had to take down the Night Road videos as I don't see them up today. If so at least you gave an honest review keep up the good work.
Woah, mind blown. @2:18 Angel released the ball where the axis point was actually on the right side of the ball pointing towards the ceiling above lane 23. I can't even comprehend how that is physically possible.
Wha? She got around it and spun it, but the axis point was near the bottom of the ball pointing down into the lane . . I think we're doin a heckin miscommunication here lol
I really like the charts @ 4:31 and 8:55. The are quite helpful!
Another great video! I love the way you break it down and tell us whet you are seeing.
Great video! Really looking forward to this being my new 1 ball in my bag. Really like how the OG Nova rolls for me
Wow, im amazed and surprised at how good it looks on Angel. It might be a great matchup for my little brother with slower speeds after all.
Infinite would be a good ball to review with the super Nova
I love the Nova. Looking forward to trying the Super. Great review as always.
I'd like to see the Super compared to the Infinite Physix
I have a super nova on order.
Smart 😎
I really liked this ball when I tested it in a ball demo. I couldn't put it down.
Ball motion kind of reminds me of my OG Lock. That ball was stupid good.... Shot 1638 for a 6 game set at a tournament with it. Would this be a good replacement?
Yeah people have already kind of been mentioning that, it really does
James can pull a vacuum with that rev rate 😵
LOL no comment
Thanks as always for informative and logical reviews... I'm looking to replace my beloved original UFO. Do you think the Super Nova or Gem would accomplish that better for a straighter up the back stroker/tweener?
I had a UFO and have a Gem, and the Gem is stronger. For me, the Gem is more like a Gravity Evolve. Both of these hook earlier, whereas the UFO would get down the lane a bit easier and have more energy at the end of the pattern.
I've been needing a new top of the arsenal ball for a bit now, Alert and Phaze 2 are my "strongest" at the moment. I throw similiar to Angel, maybe mile ish faster and I love 2 to 3rd arrow. Teammate w similar speed/rev has Gem but it only looks good half of 1st game most nights. I'm thinking the Super Nova would be a perfect #1 ball and be enough a ball up for me to not overlap my 2nd balls. Thanx for Vid!
Yea. Im definetly getting this ball. WOW
Would selfishly love to see a comparison with the Reality (since I'm thinking of making the change)!
Making that video literally right now!
I know Angel really likes her Nova and Infinite, and this one looks great for her too. Would the Super Nova pair well with the Nova without a ball in between? Love my Nova and looking for something above it. Enjoying your videos immensely. Thanks!
I saw this and absolutely have my eye on it and the infinite right now lol
I'm on a hunt for a heavy oil ball for the fresh and I've been torn between this or the Reality. I'm a no thumb bowler which is pretty much close to 2 handed, I actually use the 2LS system for my equipment. Watching James throw the Super Nova as a pin down it has great control with great performance which makes me want to use my new weaker/control layout ( which is a custom stronger 2LS 1 ) for the Super Nova. I LOVE the Nova and I LOVE the Altered Reality ( which is why I'm torn between the Reality or the Super Nova ). I feel watching this video has made me lean more towards the Super Nova due to the amount of control James put out with it. I feel the first out of bad should have more control. The Reality is earlier and it looks stronger in my eyes which may not workout for me. What are your thoughts? any advise would be helpful!
I have a drilled and a NIB Reality... they're both about to get sold so I can stock up on the Super Nova... literally putting my money where my mouth is. Can't say much more than that LOL
I actually think the Reality and SN are similar on traction/length, the SN just blends and tumbles a bit better. Reality creates an absolutely sick shot-shape but can give some nasty taps for higher rev rates and the angles they create if that makes sense.
If you are medium speed I’d go supernova but if you have high speed I’d go reality. I say this just because I think the super has a little more control too based on the video and what shots I’ve thrown with it. I have two reality’s and the reality seems to be a little sharper and stronger overall for me. Hopefully this helps steer you in the right direction. I am also a two hander 450-500 rev with 17-18 mph
I can tell you the 2LS #1 worked great on a no thumb customer I drilled for. House shot that is.
Reminds me of the Storm vivid!!
So I’d heard some rumors that the Super was designed to replace the Proton… but it looks like they stand on their own and could exist together in the same line. You think the Proton is in danger of getting discontinued?
The Dark Code hasn't been discontinued yet, and the Infinite being released virtually on top of it says the same thing in theory, that it's a replacement, but same deal here, they can stand on their own I think, so I'm not sure.
Didn’t know the super was NEX. The comparison at the end I don’t think was fair since both balls have a completely different layout
Completely different? It was pin up vs pin down, the other numbers were the same or virtually the same. It further adds to the point though, with the original being pin up, it should have been more dynamic than the Super, but it wasn't, which further drives home the point about the cover formulas.
4.5 x 4.5 x 4 on the Super Nova, 4.5 x 4 x 2.5 on the Nova... aside from the up/down those are some VERY close layout numbers. And as Luke accurately noted... the fact that the Nova was the slower and less directional change ball of the two even with the more dynamic layout just emphasizes how much more of an effect NeX vs R2X has on these two balls.
Can we please get a Super vs Reality comparison
Actually writing that one right now!
Love the pin down layout. I prefer pin down on stronger stuff myself. And pin up on weaker equipment. This ball looks so good! It’s hard to pick between the Reality and Super Nova for the big solid asym spot. Which do you think would compliment the Rubicon?
I honestly and legitimately think the Super is better than the Reality across the board.
@@ShimWreckerEnterprises It does seem to do everything very well across the board! So Super Nova, Infinite Physix, Rubicon (possibly shined up Rubicon) for the 3 big ball slots. My bag is set up where when one thing is either burning up or is to sharp I can ball down. Without having to move.
@@OpticDetailingKY yup I dig it
Yep. That's pretty much the best ball I've ever seen Pikachu throw. Holy crap... lol
I don’t see what you see with the nova my nova looks like the super for James, I personally can’t use it till I am at fourth arrow throwing at the gutter for how much it reacts off the dry
On a house shot with less volume I can hook the Nova a good bit more. The house shot at RCL is pretty soupy in the middle of the lane and I rarely need covers on the medium to medium-weak end (R2X Hyb is pretty medium-ish) there because they just won't pick up properly... and you can kinda see that here with how the OG Nova behaves.
Comparison between Super and Gem would be nice
Yup, actually writing that one right now!
Hey luke, I was wondering whether or not you had an idea on how polish would look with this ball. Ik this ball is versatile with lane play changes, but do you have an idea on how surface changes would work with this ball?
Yep, I'm actually working on the sport video, should have that up in a couple days. They came pretty close to 4k, Angel threw hers out of the box, James took his to 3k, then we took it to 2k for the sport video.
I didn't do this for a video, but I did try my Super Nova at 4k fast. NeX Solid responds in an interesting way to shine... it doesn't really get QUICKER, just gets further downlane and not as defined in the mids because of less traction. I like how it responds better with surface so I'm back to keeping it right around box.
This generally seems to mirror the Axiom in that it seems much happier with surface than shine on it from what I've experienced and seen... but if you like the Axiom with shine I think you'd like this one with shine as well. Hope that helps!
What’s Angel’s layout? Is it the number shown about the balls?
Yep, those are the VLS layout numbers
In James' situation how close would the ball motion had been with the same layout?
From the Nova or itself? It would have been even further away from the Nova, because pin up would have made it earlier and more dynamic, but pin up vs pin down isn't a tooon of difference. Little earlier and stronger overall.
Luke is 100% correct. The cover feels like such a huge difference between the Nova and Super that even same layout wouldn't change very much.
Great video, you took a lot of meatheads to task here
I wish he did pin up on the super also
While on the topic of big rev rates and transition, I’d like to ask you guys a question:
People often complain about my rev rate blowing up a pattern (even in house leagues). My response is always the same: “a big rev rate on its own doesn’t ruin a pattern as much as people who can’t hit what they’re looking at.”
Do you guys agree with this assessment? In other words, would you say that a big rev rate with accuracy breaks patterns down more predictably than a bunch of sprayers with lower rev rates?
More predictably yes, but the transition from high rev rate is more significant than that from a lower rev rate all else being equal.
@@ShimWreckerEnterprises totally agree. And if those people aren’t capable of moving left of our transition in order to take advantage of it, that’s not our problem. At least that’s how I look at it.
Can u compare it to the infinite
Lots more traction and stability in volume here versus the Infinite at like-for-like surfaces.
I’ve never heard of the G2 core. Is it really stronger than the rad4 core in the dark code? What ball has the G2 core in it?
The original Sync had it, now it's in the Bite line overseas. And oh yes, 2.47 RG, .058 diff, .028 int diff. Monstrously strong core.
Found my reality replacement
Yup... it's sick!
What is torque?
Just the same as the general definition, it's extra force or energy that an asymmetric core generates to help the ball hook more and finish stronger.
@@LukeRosdahl Thank you!
Nova is EXCELLENT in the track and hugging the oil line. Outside of that, look elsewhere
It is at RCL, yes. It doesn't like to see a ton of volume but give it friction and it can move quite a bit. Just too much soup in the middle of the lane on the RCL house shot for mid-strength covers like on the Nova to be able to make the corner.
Compare to the Gem
Thanks as always for informative and logical reviews... I'm looking to replace my beloved original UFO. Do you think the Super Nova or Gem would accomplish that better for a straighter up the back stroker/tweener?
Super Nova would be closer I think, Gem ACTS like the UFO but it's a lot earlier and a little smoother. Super is closer to the overall feel of the UFO