EFAP Movies #63: The Mask of Zorro - The War Arc continues... without Orlando Bloom :(
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- Now we enter probably the most bitchin' Zorro movie that shall ever be made! relish in the memes and genuine appreciation of an awesome film.
Edited by Goger
My favorite line in this movie is when after admitting he was about to execute seveal innocent bystandards just to draw out Zorro, Don Rafael then orders his men: "Get the children off the street!...Children should never have to see the things we do." Despite being genuinely evil Rafael has several moments in this movie that reveals his own twisted moral code. Makes him feel real.
Exactly this. While I appreciated that line as a kid, as an adult I really appreciate that they didn't make Raphael a pervert. It would have been so easy... all the pieces are there. His adopted daughter looks just like the lost object of his infatuation... but the entire movie he acts like a proper father.
God I miss good writing.
@@trequor well I think the idea is that it isn’t the veneer, Don Rafael IS a gentleman. He adheres to the classical standards of honor and comportment, he’s just the dark side of nobility.
"The sequel was so bad, what happened?"
The Zorro sequel was written by Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci. Those two have been a cancer for decades.
Kurtzman?!? NOOO!!!
That's actually fascinating. And sad
Now everything makes sense. Two of the best writers of all time. Sadly this time their partner in stupidity Damon Lindelof was not with them or it would have been a masterpiece.
Seriously? Kurtzman ruined ANOTHER series?
Is there anybody that perfectly encapsulates "failing upward" more than him?
@@scottski02 His father-in-law (Nick Counter) was president of the "Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers" - the trade union that all of Hollywood is a part of.
"You think stealing a horse makes you worthy enough to wear that mask"
a line of thinking Batwoman could learn from.
"You think stealing a suit makes you worthy enough to wear it?"
"The Zorro-outfit is literal perfection."
"It will - when it fits a woman."
Now let's just hope the rapier is calibrated for her.
Diego: Do you know how to use that?
Alejandro: Yeah. Pointy end goes into the other man.
Diego sighs.
Diego: This is going to take a lot of work. What about you, Galadriel?
Galadriel: Stab, twist, gut!
Diego stares flatly.
Diego: Go home, Galadriel.
But she's full of piss and tempests!
Isn't this like something Rey would say to Han Solo?
@@spenser9908 Yeah meanwhile i also bypass mine compressor for bull***shit writing. 🤢🤮
Idk man it worked on the ice troll and if it works on an ice troll it will work on an ice troll. Did we mention she killed an ice troll?
@@sociallyineptclownprincech8731 I think technically she empowered the Ice Troll to a higher plane of existence, but she did kill it. I.e. Stab, twist, gut and splash the camera with it's blood. She's so fucking metal! 🤘😝
15:48 Fun fact, Zorro was a direct inspiration for Batman, hence why there's been many references over the years to 'The Mark of Zorro' being the film that Bruce and his parents leave before being gunned down.
Thank you EFAP for covering one of my favorite movies of all time. Heck it’s my favorite superhero film. When I think of Martin Campbell at his best I think of this movie. Antonio Banderas, Hopkins and the cast are amazing; the writing is top notch and the fight choreography. It’s everything you want in a film like this. In fact this is the best Batman Beyond movie we have that hasn’t been made in live action. Seriously WB copy and paste this type of story if you want to make it. An easy 9/10 for me. Seriously folks if you haven’t seen it, please watch it.
I thought this was a Robert Rodriguez movie lol
@@hkaayaakuu Martin Campbell directed it.
Honestly, yeah. This is the best live action Batman Beyond that we will ever get. It does a fantastic job building the master and apprentice relationship between Diego and Alejandro. The passing of the torch feels very earned when it finally happens, and a lot of films get that wrong, usually by rushing things or generally botching the execution.
@@Zansatsu-0379 Whenever you pass the torch you really need to have your character earn the mantle and never make it easy. And within this film and Batman Beyond, it makes sense why the senior hero needs to find a successor due to the limitations of age and also both learn and grow from the younger one. Balance as opposed to the younger one being always right or nobody challenging/ following through on criticisms when apt.
@Avarn388 Having the mentor not be completely infallible also helps. Not having all the answers to every problem. Both Bruce and Diego are still wrapped up in their past in a lot of ways, and there's a lot of baggage that they need to parse through. So the young apprentice isn't the only one to have an arc in the story. Diego does this more directly with the fact that he has yet to get back at Raphael, and then Elena is added to the mix. But Bruce has several moments like that in the series as well. Most notably, the stuff with "Talia" and partially with Mr. Freeze, along with a few hints of it with Barbara Gordon.
Every time Orlando Bloom isn't on screen, all of the other character should be asking "Where's Orlando Bloom?"
"Wait a second, this isnt the Zorro movies I grew up with"
Turns out there's a shit ton of Zorro movies from everywhere. Huh.
That modern Zorro trailer physically hurt me. Why Goger Why!!
I could have quite happily went the rest of my life without knowing that exists.
I'm sorry what?
That trailer was posted 10 yrs ago so I think we are safe.
@@wilsonserv what if Zack sees it one day?
I hate the rapier/sabre erasure in favor of not-katanas.
I didn’t realize until later that Antonio Banderas is a funny actor. He’s a good lead but he does comedy very well.
He's not the best actor, but he does have a decent range
Ah yes, the times before Fringy’s iconic “bringing the Fring”
He was busy taking his iconic 7 pm nap when they were filming these
They joke that if Zorro was made today it'd be a woman, but in the early 00's there was a tv series called The Queen Of Swords and it was basically genderbent Zorro. Wasn't half bad.
Also, apparently Anthony Hopkins loved working on this movie because he got to do his own fight scenes. As he was getting older, he wasn't put in action heavy roles, so he got a real kick out of doing the sword fights.
"There are a lot of connections with Batman and Zorro, probably." Yeah, it's almost like Batman was inspired by Zorro and the Shadow or something XD
And they're both inspired by Robin hood maybe?
Originally when Bruce Wayne's parents died in the comics it was just after leaving the theater playing "The Mark of Zorro"
@@abbyk.6410 I don't know about Zorro, but the Shadow was inspired by Dracula and Sherlock Holmes.
"War, war stabs twists and guts"
- Bilbadriel, queen of Loth l'oreal
"Raw, raw give it to me, and wriggling."
"She's worth it..."
This movie would NEVER be made today. The sword strip fight alone.
The strip fight is disturbing af, in universe.
@@akashajones6079 Nah, it's hot af
Metal predicts a 2024 release from back before the Resident Evil EFAPs, the spiders must be with him
The similarities with Batman are because the character was partly inspired by old "pulp heroes" like Zorro and The Shadow. In some Batman itterations, the movie Bruce and his parents see before they die is even "The Mark of Zorro", implying that the Batman persona was inspired by them in-universe as well.
Zorro: The Gay Blade is the movie the Wayne's family watched before...
Not even joking, that's the real title of the movie!
@@MinisterOfTruth As SolarDragon says, it depends on the iteration of Batman. In the Frank Miller Dark Knight series, it's revealed the Waynes watched The Mark of Zorro. That's the 1940 remake of the (to my eyes better) 1920 original. The star of the 1920 version was Douglas Fairbanks, who was credited by name by one of Batmans spiritual fathers Bob Kane as a big inspiration to the character.
I'm not well versed enough to say in which other Batman runs the Waynes saw The Mark of Zorro before their death, but I believe there were other runs where he was. Bob Kane himself hasn't ever explicitly put the film in the comics, so it's all up for future iterations to put their own spin to it.
@@HoofHearted88 ohh, thanks for the clarification, partner.
@@MinisterOfTruth Any time.
Az's face in the bald man edit had me rolling!
careful, Will is watching you.
I don't use this term lightly or often, however, Catherine Zeta-Jones in this movie is EXQUISITE 😍 I remember being a young teen girl thinking "when I grow up, I want to look like THAT" 😅
Did you become just like that?
My mother is about her age and would get compliments about their physical similarities
I remember being a young boy thinking “when I grow up I want to marry someone like THAT!”
Her and Evie from The Mummy
"Oh no, the peasants are revolting." - MauLer
"You said it. They stink on ice!" - Mel Brooks; 'History of the World: Part I' (1981)
That line was also used in Dragonheart
Metal's joke about claiming the Moon almost killed me, I had to keep pausing the video to laugh about it whenever it came back to mind. Why was that so perfect
Edit: evert time someone likes this I look at my phone and laugh out loud, can't even begin to explain why to anyone around... 1:05:02 this deserves a timestamp
The delivery sold it. A riff worthy of MST3K.
Mauler in a dark location
“……………Hello?!” (Wind blowing)
XD
1:14:02 Mauler was talking over it, but in the prologue when Joaquin and Alejandro are in the wagon, the owner of the wagon makes a comment about how he hated making coffins for their parents, and that he’d hate to make coffins for them, or something like that.
I remember seeing this and Rush Hour on the same weekend with my dad. Damn.
What a year
1:28:20 What makes this hilarious is that Don Rafael still imagines Zorro as de la Vega. “Young and vigorous” are not words used to describe that old retiree, and… good grief, isn’t de la Vega her actual FATHER?! What the heck kind of revenge fantasy is this?!
I feel like Diego escaped prison when he did specifically because Raphael's return Gabe him something to live and fight for. He cares enough to escape when revenge against Raphael is possible again
My little boy brain was so confused when Antiono tried making a Z after the fight with Catherine Zetta Jones, and stripped her.
Now that’s a payoff.
First 15 minutes, Simpsons reference. Fringy is here with us in spirit.
*distant BLBLBLBLBL*
Noooaaahhh!
The line right after, "he was young, and vigorous", is solid gold. Shame it didn't make it in. xD
I love this movie so much. My parents showed it to me when I was 5, and it blew me away. Back in high school, when I took Drama class, I convinced my group to perform the scene where Montero comes to take Diego away and kills Esperanza, and we killed it! Thank you EFAP for covering this movie that has a special place in my heart.
i refuse to believe that new zorro trailer is real
Why is there no animated Zorro movie? He could be the brother of Robin Hood.
@@sparkypack Ther is an Zorro Anime
@@KeacePeeper True, I think I watched a few episodes of it around a decade ago. However, I wish there was a Puss in Boots style Zorro with him being a fox furrsona yknow.
The amazon one?
@@sparkypack I think there's two animated series as well... And one of them is that 'X, but in the future' types.
I remember loving this movie so much as a child I’d draw Z’s in everything, dusty furniture? Z. Dirt? Z.
Such a good movie. I grew up with the Guy Williams Zorro but this is probably one of the best takes on the character.
I really love the mask of Zorro from the sense of it being both a coming of Age and Passing of the Torch all tied up in a revenge plot story
by the time the story starts Proper Diego is too old to be Zorro anymore and he wants to kill Raphael, Alejandro wants to kill captain love for murdering his brother
being that their goals are entwined they agree to work together, but Diego doesn't just hand over the Zorro guise to Alejandro until he proves himself worthy of it
he trains him and makes him work for it, teaching him how Zorro acts, since its not just about being a good sword fighter, its why Zorro fights and what he fights for that really matters
and some trivia that I know: the flower coverings was incase there were bugs in the flowers
and during Elena and Zorro's Stable fight, Antonio actually got a bit turned on doing it hence why they kind of avoid his crotch in several shots
I rented the vhs of mask of zorro so many times that the rental place just let me keep it the last time I checked it out 😂
1:13:00 Fun fact: Captain Love, Joaquin Murrieta and Three-fingered Jack were all real people, and Captain Love really did chop off Murrieta's head as well as Three-fingered Jack's hand and keep them in jars of alcohol. I don't think he ever drank from it though.
Probably pickled it in the wrong vintage.
I'm pretty sure he only pickled them to preserve them as proof that he had killed them.
He had to confirm identidy for the bounty. The real Love was just a normal California Ranger.
Turns out every movie ages like fine wine, when everything these days starts as sludge.
“If I had a nickel for every time I’ve shot this man while he was flying through the air….. I’d have two nickels, which isn’t a lot, but it’s weird that it happened twice.”
That sight gag of a dead Friar Tuck got me rolling xD
Also didn't know how much I needed the image of Gandalf wearing a sombrero until today
Top-tier editing from Goger
How could you have an EFAP movies without Orlando Bloom?
lol its love hate
what i love about this movie is how the action mostly remains very personal. So many modern movies just have so much unnecessary bloat, too many people on screen, to many explosions, to many distractions. When you get climaxes like this, where it's very much good vs. bad guy just straight up face to face, it's just so much more engaging
well, that and Catherine Zeta-Jones.... ho-boy....
As explained "Zorro" is Spanish for fox.
"Estrella Zorro" StarFox
Oh man where he just instantly stabs the guy who accidentally shot zorros wife - here is a man who has worked hard to get to a point where he is able to kill his underlings with impunity - and damn it, he’s going to make use of it!
RIP Orlando Bloom... your expressionless face will be missed
Orlando is my secret sin.. subjectively speaking.
He will be back! I think they're doing Black hawk Down
Antonio Banderas' face keeps moving forming expressions that fit his emotional state and that's very distracting!
I've never watched Legend of Zorro and never going to either - this is how much I love this particular movie.
It was so incredibly awful that my entire family turned off the TV, sat in silence for a few seconds, then collectively decided the movie never existed.
@@dianebrooks1859 It was written by Alex Kurtzman, which should explain a few things.
It's adorable how Rags reacts to Catherine Zeta Jones every time she's on camera.
It's a reflex, she is just too damn perfect in this film.
@@jonbaxter2254 just this film?
@randomdude185 no she is perfect in others too. But in Zoero? Hoo boy...
Saying, "I want to f*ck you." is adorable?
He represents all of us
So the reason why there are a lot of similarities between Batman and Zorro is because Bob Kane drew a lot of inspiration from the character. Canonically, Bruce was also inspired by Zorro when becoming Batman.
The movie he and his parents leave from the night they're shot was also a Zorro movie.
"He's Batman with a sword in old-y times." Brilliant historical analysis from Shad 😂😂😂
Zorro predates batman by almost 15 years.
Original Zorro didn't bother escaping before now because he was dead inside. He lost everything and Raphael was back in Spain. Seeing Raphael again reignited his spirit of revenge. Now he can escape and kill Raphael in the same day.
To Shad: Zorro's style is not to attack in anger. He uses his opponent's anger against them. The trickster taunting style doesn't work if you are also angry.
I love how Anthony Hopkins, in the scene where they're talking about turning Alejandro into a gentleman, is clearly just fuckin' around off camera blowing smoke rings.
You can see it when the camera cuts back to him when he says "yeeeeeesssss". 🤣👍
Good, this arch has a LEGENDARY movie in it. Don blessed us.
my childhood go to film. must pick this up again
One of my all-time fav action-adventure movies! Been waiting on this reaction for months. Catherine Zeta-Jones was one my first silver screen crushes growing up. I never tire of that sword fight scene with Antonia Banderas duel wielding sabers- BAD.ASS!
Mexican Gandalf at Gates of Maria: "Yo quero Taco Bell?"
Gates open
He sees the Balrog and goes “Here lizard lizard lizard lizard!”
Instead of, "fly, you fools!"
"La migra!"
I mean. Mordor did have a wall that was built and paid for by Gondor.
"This is her fetish" Actually kinda, when she was on Graham Norton, she said her and Michael Douglas(her husband) play strip golf at country clubs while traveling. So there are likely people who have seen CZJ and Antman stripping, and likely people who didnt look at rough to notice the rough.
Holy crap I just discovered this channel... it's like MST3K... AWESOME! I love it 😃
Oh man... welcome! Time to immerse yourself
Welcome and enjoy! ^.-.^
I find it funny how they bring up the Batman comparisons when the original Zorro pulp fiction stories were the origin of the whole “masked hero with a secret identity” trope. Essentially Batman and many of the comic book super heroes were originally inspired by Zorro.
Metal made that "2024 is lit" joke with NO CLUE how true it would become
15:50 i can just hear Razorfist saying "you dont say. That and a certain Shadowy figure"
That's the first "Whatcha bring me?" in quite a while to make me laugh
Rags - "I can speak Spanish, thank you!"
Joke's on you Rags, that's not Spanish. 🤣
Zorro is Spanish for ‘fox’. Sorro is Spanish for ‘sorro’… which isn’t a word.
And zorra means bitch, apparently. Learning is fun.
k?
@@The_Dreamless616 ‘k’ is a letter.
Rags was being silly…
Fun facts:
Zorro inspired Batman, not the inverse!
Zorro is a Spanish noble specifically, so Twitter can kick rocks.
Zorro has been in film since 1920.
The maid lady was speaking a native language. Dunno which one tho. This was more common at the time due to the mestizo (mixed)peasantry. The American variations of Spanish still include native words and inflections.
“Don” means lord in Spanish. So the Don is indisputably the Lord.
1:10:04 ^.-.^ Ooo! I like how the only ones whom dinae react to the blast in fear are Zorro and Captain Love. Good touch.
9:06 Also yes, that Z was on a coffin at the beginning, the lads were hiding in the undertaker’s wagon, because Don Rafael was setting this execution as a trap for Zorro. ^.-.^
Also you did kinda gloss over it a bit, but I’mma say that the wee moment between Zorro and Three Fingered Jack as he lay dying; is a part I really appreciate. That brief moment of recognition by Jack and the little comforting smile he gave, so that he knows he didn’t die alone.. It makes me misty eyed every time. ^.-.^
Still to this day an easy 8/10 film.
Barely any CGI, a cohesive plot with great characters who are well acted, amazing stuntwork and good, varied choreography, all building to an explosive ending scene with an actual purpose, that ties its ending threads together.
I doubt we'll see things like this again, with the way Hollywood is going.
Ok, so on the American officer's revolver, there were cavalry carbines that use revolving chambers at the time, though I'm not sure as to the design of that one specifically. Also, a musket can hit a target from 200 yards away during the Napoleonic Wars, so a long barrel revolver would probably have at least 100 yards of accuracy in good hands.
Captain Love is using an anachronistic 1858 Remington revolver carbine at the beginning, likely as a stand in for the period correct Colt-Patterson revolver rifle, which are pretty much unobtainable as so few were made & no reproductions exist. The rest of the movie he is using a period correct Colt-Patterson revolver, as there have been several repros made of those over the years. Real ones are also nigh impossible to get hold of( ironically enough, even for Sam Colt himself, he went bankrupt and had to sell all his original guns and factory, & a few years later when he started working on the Walker revolver he first tried to get hold of some of his original guns to work off of, but couldnt afford them. The California gold rush had started and they were in such demand prices skyrocketed. It forced him to start fresh, and create the original 'Big Iron' revolver, the Walker-Colt .44. And started a long tradition of Sam Colt ripping off everybody from the US Gov to his own parts suppliers.)
I remember being extremely excited about this movie coming out as an early teen. The teaser trailers were my 1st true exposure when he came on the screen in silhouette and slashed the screen with 3 cuts. Such a fun movie and a great example of a summer blockbuster. ^-^
"Hey wait a minute you're not @Beuwen_The_Dragon...
do you have a 'LOISCENSE for that "OwO" ?"
@@Coconut-219 I don’t get the reference. Sorry.
It's kind of charming that Goger is still using the same grubby profile pic. It's won me over.
I love how Shad claims that Antonio Banderas has no range and the very next scene showcases his incredible range 🤣
No Orlando Bloom = No Sargon :/
I dig and miss Orlando movies (my subjective opinion)
Berry berry sus.
Good screw that guy
Hmm... You never see them in separate places at different times.
I think MauLer is zorro.
There are many who would be proud to wear the gas mask
@7:39 Interesting thing you point out Mauler, this movie came out a year after Batman & Robin, Batman is a copied from the Shadow, and the Shadow is derived from Zorro.
It's like poetry. It rhymes.
Edit: I typed this as MauLer said it at 1:37:55 😂😂😂
Let’s go! This year so far is some of my favorite EFAP episodes, I’m so excited for what you guys have in store! Really top notch editing and some of the best takes online!!
The reason Diego waits 20 years is because Raphael left Mexico. Which is backed with the fact that he had that grand celebration for returning where we see Elena. And when he went to the jail, he was under cover so he wouldn't give away he arrived early. Now you could ask, why did Diego spend the 20yrs in jail, instead of hiding somewhere? And I'd argue, and I believe Hopkins would argue. That Diego both needed to grieve for the loss of his family, and punish himself because he blames himself for his wife's death. So, he chose to stay in jail until Raphael returned to Mexico. Or maybe! The scene in the jail closing in on Hopkins eyes, signified he had lost who he was, but after seeing Raphael the fire was ignited again.
*The Zorro text is better than the Star Wars crawl.*
Change my mind.
Absolute banger! One of my earliest cinema experiences, and one of my fondest.
Efap thank you for the covering this movie that has been baked into my memory as a wee lad, my father blessed me with this action blast of a film years back and I’m thankful it holds up to all standards
The rapier did not necessarily have to have cut off Joachim's head to make the necklace fall free. Movie necklaces are VERY breakable. The most common way of removing a necklace on-screen is to grab the object on the necklace, and pull it forward, causing the necklace to break around the wearer's neck. Someone else often puts it on right away with no depicted repair to the break.
Can yall update the EFAP movie Playlist? The last thing is the saw arch but all the lord of the rings stuff & these war movie archs aren't in.
1:35:33 Such a great scene. The whole conversation Captain Love is waiting for Zorro to drop his guard so he can shoot him and Zorro knows this. But Zorro gets pulled in by Elena's thing about the flowers on her crib and _the moment_ he turns to her and stops focusing on the Don's neck, Captain Love goes for the shot.
BUT THEN The Don is _also_ an active character in this, not just a hostage; he knows exactly what Love is about to do and intervenes rather than worry about Zorro's sword.
This is why we do character setup, guys. Good shit.
I would launch 1000 ships for Elena, I was 8 and had never noticed how stunning she was in this film.
Who is your favorite fearless hero
Who is your favorite fearless heeero
🐈👀
I'd love for them to watch the original silent film Mark of Zorro.
1:14:47 Rags the nanny isn't speaking Spanish, she's speaking Nahuatl.
How the fuck is this the ONLY movie that Danny Trejo isn't in?
The face edits have me losing it throughout 😂😂
Top notch editing as always, thank you for reminding us what we are missing now
Wish shad had something better than a string and a cup to use as a microphone. Ruined the whole thing.
I wish they would do The Count of Monte Cristo from 2002. Such a great movie.
My favourite childhood movie. I even dressed as Zorro for Halloween.
I forgot just how much i freakin LOVED this movie 🤣🤣🤣. such a great time
Kudos to the editor, those were some really well timed jokes throughout.
The "focus" thing when doing a closeup of a woman is not a focus issue, but generally a filter.
The joke about it is smearing vaseline on the lens, which was definitely done.
There are several proper filters one may put in front of the lens for similar effect though, which hide imperfections of the skin.
I know these are filmed in advance but I am on my KNEES begging for you guys to cover 'Count of Monte Christo'!!!
The next western based EFAP Movies I wanna see is Wild Wild West. I know they’ve watched it but it would be such a fun video to watch since it was another film I remember coming out during the late 90’s.
How can they not, the sheer over the top nature of that film demands it.
@@MediumRareOpinions oh yes! I can’t wait. ^-^
This ain't no Western. This a Southern.
@@NoPantsBaby no, this is a western film because it does not take place in Mexico. It takes place in California aka Las Californias in 1821. So, once again, I am correct!
(Mic Drop)
I want them to watch;
The man with no name trilogy
Tombstone
Once upon a time in the west
Old Henry
Some more Clint Eastwood's/Lee Van Cleef's classics
God I woulda loved it had you edited in "Amigo" as mexi-Gandalf opened the door
youtube needs to implement a audio slider for chad specifically, my ears
"Retire!!??... You are too good looking to retire "🐈👢
That long ass rifle if I am not mistaken was a revolver carbine. 45 caliber from Colt's peacemaker, but I could be slightly off.
I have seen every episode of the late 50s Zorro TV series and it is indeed excellent.