ANO ANG MAS NAUNA, ANG BIBLIA O IGLESIA? : Which Came First, The Bible of Church?
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- Опубликовано: 18 окт 2024
- The Bible Is A Product of the Church, not vice versa.
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What Came First, The Bible or Church?
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Before we start, we will define first the meaning of this terms "Bible" and "Church". The "Bible" we are referring to is the "Christian Bible" which is complete with Old Testament and New Testament. So it is clear that this is a Christian Bible, not the Jewish Bible since they only have the Old Testament. The Christian Bible have Old and New Testaments. The term "Church" that we referred to is the group, congregation or assembly that Christ founded on 33AD. This is not the INC which was only founded by Manalo on 1914. This Church is responsible for spreading Christianity to the whole world.
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To make this clearer, we will compare this to the different religions in the world. Because a legitimate religion had existed prior to the making of their holy scripture. It will not happen that the Holy Scripture of one religion had existed before that said religion itself.
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For example, the Holy Scripture of Jews called Tanakh was only compiled after the establisent of the religion Judaism. Moses had already a religion even before he wrote the Torah or the first 5 books.
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The Holy Scripture of Muslims called Quran was only compiled after Muhammad founded Islam. The Holy Scripture of Buddhists called "Tripitaka" was compiled several centuries after Siddharta Gautama founded Buddhism. The Holy Scripture of Mormons called "Book of Mormons" was only compiled later after Joseph Founded his religion "The Church of Christ of the Latter day saints". The Holy Scripture of Confucianism called "Lun-yu" was compiled a long time after Confucius died. The Holy Scripture of Hinduism called "The Vedas" was only compiled centuries after Hinduism was formed. The Holy Scripture of Zoroastrianism called "Vesta" was compiled after the religion Zoroastrianism was founded. The Holy Scripture of Sikhism called Adi Grant was compiled very late after Sikhism was founded. Almost all religions which have Holy Scriptures had existed first prior to their Holy Scriptures.
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That's the proof that the group or religion must exist first before the holy scripture. Likewise, the Holy Scripture of Christians called Holy Bible must exist after the Church who compiled it. The religion who compiled the Bible is the legitimate religion founded by Christ. There is no other religion who compiled the Bible in the 4th century but only the Catholic Church.
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We will make it clear first that the Christian Bible was not dropped from heaven already numbered with chapters and verses, and bookbound already. There was a group of people who was responsible for the compilation of the Bible. That group of people who compiled the Bible is the Church. And that Church is no other than the Catholic Church. It was Catholics who collected those books for selection of inspired from the uninspired writings. It was Catholics who decided on what books to be made part of the New Testament. It was Catholics who made the first Christian Bible called "Latin Vulgate". It was Catholics who put chapters and verses in the Bible. It was a Catholic who invented the first printing press that produced printed Bibles, because prior to that, bibles were hand-written by Catholic monks.
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For short, the apostles had not used Bible to preach, but through oral Tradition or verbal teachings. The teachings of Christ was conveyed to the apostles by words. Then the apostles on their part had conveyed the teachings by words. It was not written teachings and that's what we call Sacred Tradition. Apostle Paul had confirmed it on his letter in 2 Thess 2:15, that says
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"Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle" (2 Thess 2:15)
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In addition, Apostle Paul had said in 1 Cor. 11:2.
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"I praise you for remembering everything I told you and for holding to the Traditions that I passed on to you." (1 Cor 11.2)
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So, it's clear that the early Christians actually had Traditions. These traditions are the teachings which were not written, so it was transmitted to the people by words.
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So what came first, the Bible or the Church? It is very clear that the Church existed first before the Bible, which is a product of the Church. Christ and the Apostles had preached without any Christian Bible. Because the Bible that we are using had been compiled only ok the 4th century, through the efforts of the bishops of the Church. That Church is no other than the Catholic Church. The first book of the New Testament is 1 Thesalonians which was written in 51 AD. It means that the Church had existed already for 18 years before the the first book of the New Testament was written by Paul to the Thessalonians.
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Salamt po Bro and more. more dagdag kaalaman in Jesus name. Amen!
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#ProudCatholic
Purihin ang Dios!salamat at Katoliko aq💖💖😊
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Salamat po Brother sa pagsisiwalat ng katutuhanan, naway marami ang makapanood at mabuksan ang kaisipan,❤❤❤
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Church first before bible that's a right logic
Napakagandang tanong...God bless!
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Praise God
Amen!
Iglesia Muna Bago Ang Biblia alamin nila kung Pano nagkaroon Ng Biblia
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Iyakan na naman ang mga sulpot sa video na ito😅😅😅😅😅
wow... nasabtan jud nako..
The Catholic Church is the one true Church established by Our Lord Jesus Christ.proud catholic.
Roman Catholic kayo hindi catholic Lang dahil universal ho yan.
Wala Kang alam sa aral katolico Kya tumahimik kana lang .pag aralan mo kung paano at kung saan at kung sino nagtayo ng kinaaniban mong sulpot .kawawa Kyo Kapatid kung dimo natagpuan Ang totoong simbahang tatag ng panginoong jeducristo@@benexsaber4496
Yung holy bible pala gawa pala ng simbahang katoliko ❤😊
Acts 20:28 (GLT)
" Takeheed therefore to yourselves and to all the flock over which the Holy Spirit has appointed you overseers, to feed the CHURCH OF CHRIST which he has purchased with his blood. "
And tinubos Lang ng dugo ni Kristo ay mga kaanib Lang ng INC noong unang siglo at INC ngayong panahon kristiano na sakop rin sa ginawang pagtubos.
Kapatid ang inc ba ang nagsabi na iglesia ang nauna sa bibliya o Ikaw lang po ang nagsabi nyan para may maicontent lang.
Dagdag kaalaman
Ang ibig Sabihin ng 'bibliya' ay maraming aklat.
IIglesia ang nauna
Iglesya ang nauna hnd biblia
Kuya, magtatanong Lang ako, Lagi mong sinasabi ang sulpot na INC and tinutukoy mo .
Nang Una Kong marinig yan ay pakirinig ko ay SUPOT sino yun kuya?
Si Felix Ysagun yon.
Bro, SULPOT nga ang INC,
may Tama ka. Patunayan ko sayo.
Gawa 2:39
"Sapagkat SA INYO ang pangako, at sa INYONG MGA ANAK, at sa lahat ng NANGASA MALAYO, maging ilan man ang tawagin ng Panginoon nating Diyos sa Kanya."
Iglesia Ni Cristo Phophecy
* SA INYO - Hudyo (1st Group) natalikod
* Sa inyong mga anak - Mga Gentil (natalikod) (1 cor. 4:15, Roma 9:24) - 2nd group
*NANGASA MALAYO - And ibang tupa ni Cristo (Juan 10:16)
3rd group
Na LILITAW pa lang o SUSULPOT pa Lang.
Nangyari ang prophecy o hula noong 1914.
Isaias 43:5
"Mula sa MALAYONG SILANGAN dadalhin ko ang aking lahi mula sa malayong kanluran at titipunin ko kayo. " (Moffatt Translation)
Malayong Silangan - Bansang Pilipinas (mga pulo ng dagat)
(Ref. Phil. history book)
DADALHIN KO and inyong lahi
- Hula o prophecy na magkakaroon o may LILITAW o may SUSULPOT na INC sa huling panahon.
Alam mo ba Ang Ibig Sabihin ng sulpot na biglang lumitaw o sumulpot kahit di tatag ng panginoong jesucristo? Ang mga sumulpot o biglang lumitaw ay tatag lang tao kagaya nyo kailan tinayo ng pastor nyo Ang secta nyo? Kung kailan may malinaw na bigla kyong sumulpot dahil Ang totoong simbahang tatag ni jesucristo noon pang 33 AD sa Jerusalem at hindi sa pinas .kung Kyo dito lang Kyo sa pinas tinatag ng pastor nyo bigla kyong sumulpot Kya sulpot Kyo
First century nagsimula ang Catholic Church samantalang ang INC eh noon lang na taong 1914.
Ibig mong sabihin hindi hudyo si kristo
bakit ang iglesia katolika apostolika romana ay wala sa Bibliya..
Dahil di lahat ng totoo ay naisulat sa Biblia. In fact, di mo mababasa ang salitang "Biblia" mula Genesis hanggang Apocalypsis.
nasa bible yon ..utos p nga ni Kristo..kaso..pag bumasa kayo hindi nyo iniintindi..suriin mo muna ano ibig sabihin ng Catholic..at suriin mo bakit may salitang Roman..at saka ang punto dito..sino ang bumuo ng Biblia ..bakit kung gumawa ng history ng isang tao,isali mo ba pangalan mo sa history na ginawa mo..?
@@manuelcaipilan5156 pag wala sa Bibliya, tinitiyak ko sau.. hindi totoo ang relihiyon mo.. ano ba ang utos ng Diyos? kung ano ang nakasulat, siya mong isasagawa, huwag mong daragdagan ni babawasan, kahit tuldok man o kuwit.. hindi mo mababasa sa Bibliya ang iglesia katolika apostolika romana.. kayo nag compile ng Bibliya? puro paglabag at hindi ninyo sinusunod kung ano ang nakasulat diyan..
Sabi ng pastor ng sulpot na secta na adventist hindi daw catholico nag compiled ng bible hahaha
Biblia ang nauna..
Tama biblia Ang na una bago Ang mga sulpot na sekta...😂
@@jaguar5466 tinarong akong tubag..mo reply ka ug hinanggaw...
@@edisonaceberos4945 ata dae ko man aram Ang pinagtataram mo..garu Kang LADO! 😂
@@edisonaceberos4945 tama man tubag ni jaguar..di ba ang mga bag ong sulpot nagbasa sag bibliya human nag tukod ug simbahan..so bag ong sulpot ang sa ila biblia sa mao pa ang iglesia..tan awa si manalo,soriano ug quibiloy di ba nagbasa sa ug biblia human basa nagtukod dayon iglesia?😂😂😂
@@manuelcaipilan5156 pangutan ta ka.. HAIN MAY NAUNA ANG SEPTUAGINT BIBLE O ANG ROMANO nga CATHOLICO..
The first century church only had the old testament. The new was being written. Old testament is still the word of God.
By old Testament with are not save but only by the Holy New Testament, in the Holy Church of Christ.
Ang iglesia hinde building
@@michaelgrejaldo702 sinong nagsabi Sayo na building?
Hinde mo yan masagot ng maayos nauna ang old at nauna nmn ang iglesia kay sa new
Pero wala sa katoliko ang biblia haha
Sinong maysabi?
@@CatholicFaithGuardian si talibong di mo alam?
@@MISTRESS-n1m saan?
@@CatholicFaithGuardian sa debate niya, CFD niyo di mo alam hahaha
@@MISTRESS-n1m debate ba ni talibong ang pinag usapan sa video? Naloko na
ang labo.. ayusin mo. puro ka reading ee..di mo ata pinaghandaan video mo.
Saan banda ang labo toy? Gamit ka eye glass para di malabo.. O kaya magset tayo ng debate tungkol diyan.. Tingnan natin sino malabo.
Yang Muka mo Malabo utoy. Your a reader, not a preacher.@@CatholicFaithGuardian