When Americans fought for Mexico: St Patrick's Battalion
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- The History Guy remembers St. Patrick's battalion, a force comprised mostly of men who had deserted or defected from the United States Army, who fought on the side of Mexico in the Mexican-American War. It is history that deserves to be remembered.
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I am Mexican and my boyfriend is Irish. We heard about this story last week and now i tell him our ancestors brought us together 💚
Eyyyy I am Mexican and my wife is Irish! Truly the best of unions 🇮🇪 🇲🇽
Like that chorizo do ya?
@@carywest9256 more like smacking the blarney stones 😂
Que vivan los novios!! ❤
I believe that
"From Dublin city to San Diego,
We witnessed freedom denied,
So we formed the St. Patrick's Battalion,
And we fought on the Mexican side"
I love that song
What song is this??
@@100Denario St. Patrick Battalion | Shamrock is the song
San Diego in Chirubusco, México City. The Irish were not from the U
S. They were Irish immigrants.
I live in the area where they had the first battle and the Irish went to the Mexican side. As a Mexican-American and Catholic, I taught high school and taught my students about the "San Patricios". They were never taught about the San Patricios in history. Years later, I have spoken to some of them and they remember my lesson over the batallion. I admire and respect Irish Americans and all cultures in general. LONG LIVE the San Patricios.
Surprisingly I learned this in high school
Back in the mid 80s but you are correct this needs to be taught more in history. God bless 👍👍
I am a Spanish teacher her and Catholic. This will be my Saint Paddy's Day lesson. I am researching!
If you have recommendations of sources please share them!!
I'm first generation Irish-American and learned about Los San Patricio's from a Mexico amigo at a party and we spent the entire night drinking and yelling Viva Mexico, Viva Ireland, Viva Los San Patricio's.
Maybe you should add that the Irish, and other Catholics, witnessed some pretty horrific behaviour conducted by the US forces, towards Mexican clergy and Mexican nuns! While you aren't wrong about anything you say, your description of the events that drove the San Patricios to desertion, is very sanitized.
Is summary the Irish saw the Mexicans who were Catholics under attack by a Anglo speaking imperialist country. Sounds familiar to the Irish I'd assume...
You’re right. Don’t worry Mexico overtaking
Wild Geese.
Roman catholicism isn't true Biblical Christianity it's a political, economic, empire under the guise of religion, from time of Constantine to the late 18 century the evil institution of Roman catholicism murdered over 54 million Bible believing Christians on the continent of Europe. It was a capital offense to possess a Holy Bible in your native language or to even own a Holy Bible, the Reformation began with Martin Luther, but many in the centuries prior we're martyrs. The Waldenses, Anabaptists, Cathars, Albigenses, Hussites, Bohemians, too many to list were murdered by the false church that warned about another Gospel in the Galatians Chapter 1 in the King James Bible, read Foxes Book of Martyrs
The Apostle Paul warned about another Gospel in Galatians Chapter 1 in the King James Bible
"¡Viva México! ¡Viva Irlanda! ¡Viva la libertad!
We have Batallón de San Patricio written in gold letters among the names of our heroes.
🇲🇽🤜🏽🤛🏻🇮🇪
Viva Mexico , love from Ireland.
Viva Irlanda y Mexico !
Long live Mexico and long live Ireland 🇮🇪 🇲🇽 gods soldiers
Viva la Mexico 🇲🇽 🇮🇪
Los Mexicans estaremos eternamente agradecidos thank you Ireland
I was brought up in Mexico and one of my best friends was an historian who told me that the Mexicans did not run out of ammunition, but rather that the cadets of the Mexican Military Academy who were defending the Chapultepec Castle used a different caliber in their rifles. He told me that the army sent them two railroad cars full of the wrong-size ammo. I am really enjoying your series. Thanks for sharing them.
the reason for armies to have a standard size of ammo
@Tropic Lightning "wars in india"
That implies both sides were willing combatants and not that one side cruelly invaded and the other tried and defend itself
You people always do this kind of weasle wording
@Sigma Nayo more than rudeness it seems to me a scheming and nefarious nature. Everyone of them seems to be a propagandist
Ive heard long ago the Anglos entered in an foul compact with the ashkenazi jews who are also known for the same traits
Properly executed for desertion.
You're thinking of different battles.
The battle of Churubusco is the one where the Mexican army ran out of ammo, it even has an important quote when after their victory, the US demanded to know where the ammo was upon which the Mexican officer answered "if we had ammo, you wouldn't be here."
The battle of chapultepec was the one where the cadets (ages 11-16) defended Chapultepec castle, they were overwhelmed.
Interesting video.
"The war that America cannot remember and the war Mexico cannot forget."
I think, still today, tensions on the Mexican border are a direct result of this war.
From south of the border I tell you: well said.
Hate towards your country, a feeling of accusing the US of stealing from others to become what it is… a land of haters, racists and other bad things.
I am the granddaughter of immigrants, Scottish and Spaniards and Jewish too, this country the south of the border welcomed them and they settled in the very arid north where they flourished. Being who I am doesn't come from genetics but from what I have studied and learn, and how I interpret this information. I believe this "anti American" feeling of some Mexicans, maybe the majority, come from Political campaigns of old and from the Media which pushed this agenda in the 1940's and 50's.
Nobody who lived thru what the monster Zachary Taylor did in Mexico, like executing his slaves because they tried to go away since they were in a Free Country... or bringing slavery here, or doing other nasty things (he could have been a catholic priest these days, geez)... these injuries are long forgotten, nobody here knows anything... so the hate is new.
Think about this: do you think your President Donald Trump is guilty of something, is evil, needs to be removed from the Executive Office, needs to be put in prison??? Why is that, I can't see any wrong doings from him and his Administration other than making America Great, no kidding: better economy, the so needed World's Hegemony and breaking the globalist agenda of diving everything. He will be a hero, specially after his second term and finishing the wall of this border between countries... which will benefit Mexico a lot more: it is already doing so with the criminals starting to sweat and cry like the... but I digress.
If you and so many, 40% of the US electorate (hardcore DNC), believe lies... don't you think Mexicans will too after 7 decades of this nonsense lies??
The countries should be brothers, even the language difference should be something that join us more than ... than the alternative. But then again Trump is bad, socialism is good... one must listen to MSNBC's Rachel Maddcow or any similar moron at Televisa Noticias.
Cheers! I recommend Nebbiolo from Baja California (Guadalupe Valley): Artigiano comes to mind, should go perfect with a large grilled Porterhouse and baked potatoes (rosemary).
/edit: the wine suggestion was after the quite horrible message I wrote... lol, better days will come for Mexico and of course the US. Canada is what worries me, and I have family there...
@@RebeccaCampbell1969 It is a human thing to blame others for one's own problems.
Why would Canada worry you about anything?
@Tropic Lightning 😂😂😂
@Chris Ruiz Many (not most) /young/ Mexicans don't have anti-American feelings. Most older Mexicans still resent both the invasions, and the treatment of braceros and Mexican-American veterans during WWII and the Korean and Vietnam Wars.
The political line of the party that ruled the country for 70 years was fierce anti-Americanism. They tried to flip posture through the creation of NAFTA, but as the years have gone on, Mexicans are still wary of the US.
I am a 3rd generation Irish immigrant, from a dangerous combination of Catholic & Protestant unions. (That's why we left Ireland) I was always told that the San Patricios -St Patrick's' unit were outraged when the American Army looted the Catholic churches, STEALING many Holy Alter items from them. Fights broke out among them resulting in some shooting deaths. The Irish were so outraged they immediately joined the Mexican military. Having fought with & against the British Army for centuries they had , had enough and they knew how to fight. To add: Two of my great uncles died in WW I. Proud Irish men serving with the British Army. One in 'Flanders Fields' and, one in Gallipoli, Turkey. Many in our family came to America during 'the Potato Famine'
The men were not US citizens. Like Mary Surratt, they were murdered because they were Roman Catholic.The Battalion is remembered, also, in Ireland.They came to the US because of the limey occupation of Ireland.
I did not know that. Thank you for enlightening me
More republican bs.
True very cruel limey rule
In Mexico we remember them fondly. There's a plaque in Plaza San Jacinto, where 16 (I think) were executed, and a neighborhood - 'Irish Martyrs' - is named after them.
Would people know who the Irish battalion were if you talked about then in Mexico? I'm Irish and I never even heard about them until now.
Definitely. Most everyone knows about El Batallón de San Patricio, with their green flag. They were a drop in the bucket of Irish immigration to the US, but symbolically culturally important to us for the role they played in helping Mexico against foreign aggression. I'm Mexican, and I have learned a number of things I didn't know about Mexico because the History Guy; largely because they were more central to the US than to Mexico.
@@BICHETO My dad is from Ireland and live in California but didn't hear about them until about 20 years ago from a Mexican amigo. When I told him my dad is from Ireland he asked if I heard of them, out of instinct I said Mexico's fighting Irish and he laughed and said yes, then told me the history of them. I think its awesome and I am very proud of them even though I am American I know the history of Ireland and why they did it. The Anglo American empire aka USA was doing to Catholic Mexico what the British (anglos) did to Ireland a few hundred years earlier and where still occupying Ireland. I'm proud of them and don't consider them traitors as the us government does.
Are you sure about the number? My reading shows it was over 70, all hung at the same time as the American flag was hauled up in Mexico CIty.
@@yahulwagoni4571 I have heard that St. Patrick's Day is celebrated most greatly in Ireland and in Mexico.
I first heard about this in the 1980s when I was living in Mexico. A fellow told me about this group because I look Irish I was told. The book The Irish Soldiers of Mexico tells the story in great detail.
A Mexican friend told me about the Battalion when I mentioned my grandmother was Irish. I am pleased to see you have done one of your great videos on the subject it has fascinated me since I was told about it.
well this is a very popular video about this
ruclips.net/video/9clmcRFxq7g/видео.html
as a grandson of an Irish guy even if Im Salvadorean I feel so prund to be Irish by my Grandpa, prund and brave people Irish are and one day Im gonna visiting Dublin from where my grandpa was and left all he had behind to start a new life in a country with a different language, culture, and gave me a lot of his values.
ERIN GO BRAGH, VIVA MEXICO Y VIVA HISPANOAMERICA.
Watch the movie One Man's Hero. It's about St. Patrick's battalion.
More fanciful than accurate, but still there was very little available on the subject previously - I can't recall another movie on the mass treason and the unit.
It’s the colonial version,1 man hero..check out Mexico’s Irish st Patrick’s battalion,you have to understand what the Irish were leaving behind in order to understand all this story,no Irish faught against the USA 🇺🇸 as it wasent the USA it was 11 states of which 3 didn’t even want Mexico 🇲🇽… & they were all colonials who hated Catholics & Christians.. 🇮🇪🇲🇽✍🏼👏🇺🇸✌️
Mahalo says Redbeard
@@yahulwagoni4571 They were not US citizens, so no treason.
@@jasperkearns5 Mississippi might have wanted it. Colonel Jefferson F. Davis commanded the First Miss. Infantry Regiment.
Among the opponents of the Mexican War was a young one-term congressman from Illinois, Abraham Lincoln. Many Americans opposed the war because Polk's transparent efforts to expand slavery were obvious.
Yes, and it's what kept him to one term.
@@BlueBaron3339 I think General Taylor had a bit to do with it. I think you would enjoy learning more about Gen Zac Taylor.
Gee...living in Texas we tend to think of it in a very different fashion.......and it wasn't about slavery....
@@evinchester7820; many times each side of a war are fighting for very different reasons.
H. D. Thoreau went to jail due refusing to pay taxes, arguing that the money destination was the México/U.S. war.
The leading American Generals who fought in Mexico later fought each other in the American Civil War.
¡Erin Go Bragh!
@@Mamacita-6 ¡Viva Irlanda, Viva México, Viva St Patrick Battalion!
I'm so mad; this is such an important part of history, MY state's history (Colorado), as well as Irish-American history. I never even heard of this battalion and I wish I did as a kid.
I feel the same. Quite upsetting were not taught about important history such as this historic move by the St. Patrick's battalion to join Mexico. Very beautiful to learn and understand Mexicans and the Irish are family forever!!! Much Love and respect to my Irish brothers and sisters!!!
@@tellomajorscamp1407It’s on purpose, politicians don’t want kids to learn the truth about atrocities committed by WASPs against different ethnic groups because they’d see who they really were. They want to avoid “anti white sentiment” so instead they bury the truth.
Some was deserters the rest well they quickly learnt that they was doing to the mexicans what the british had been doing to the Irish for centuries so joined the mexicans as they had more in common than with the them than the yankees so fought bravely for Mexico their names are on a monument in mexico city as the mexicans appreciated what they sacrificed. Theres a song" St Patrick Battalion" by the group called the "Wakes "that tell this story. Brave men who cared?
celticfan 5527 yeah, he mentioned that
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Brilliant analysis. You connected so many dots in my understanding of that period.
In my 70s high school in SoCal, I knew a Mexican named Sanchez who changed his surname to O'shaunessy.
I was perplexed until I found the story you just covered. He perhaps did that to honor the Irish.
So I guess this explains the red hairs in my beard and my cousins 23 and me coming back with Irish in it. A few years ago I noticed that all my cousins with beards all had a red hue to them but never really thought anything of it until I started to grow my beard and the red hairs started coming out. That’s when I started asking around in my family and found out one of my cousins 23 and me had Irish in it. I had just left it at that and never thought of how we got that Irish in us. And our of nowhere this video pops up for me and basically explains it
I'm Irish, and the red in my beard only comes out when I grow it too 🤣
I first learnt of the San Patricios from the Street Dogs, a Boston band, back in '07. Their song about them inspired me to look them up and found how they are considered heroes in Mexico.
This was awesome! As a Texan I never knew this. Thank you!
We Irish seem to have a knack for stirring things up, wherever we go!
@Brandon Taylor Trump's lineage is German (more specifically, Bavarian.)
@Brandon Taylor Don't go there, if that man had any Irish blood in him, it fought it's way out long ago, and was glad to congeal on the ground, and if you repeat it, there's 6.5 million of us going to get you. Not counting the mad eejit at the end of the bar who actually likes him, wait is that a mirror, no, thank Feck, thought I'd have to punch myself!
Erin Go Bragh!! I think it has to do with Ancient Irish Scott history with the Myans.
@@cryptoeejit Some people just have to make everything political.
@@aapp953 Citations. Proof.
Thank you for correcting the battalion title to, “The San Patricios Battalion.”
I just discovered your channel today and I greatly appreciate your talent.
I am half Mexican and half Irish. My mother was born in Ireland and grew up in America and my father was from sanora Mexico. When he came over he met my mother and they fell in love then my father joined the Army in 67 and found out my mother was pregnant. He died in Vietnam before I was born. Now there's also an Irishman that married into my fathers family after the Mexican American war. He had come to Mexico with Riley and became a San Patricio. And when the war was over he settled in Sanora where my father is from. So I have the history
As a fellow historian and a man who was born 15 minutes away from the place of the Battle of Churubusco i can assure you they are not forgotten in México. All the gold of their names in la cámara de Diputados is worthless against the bravery of every single o0ne of them.
The Filipino-American War please. This needs a spotlight.
When the Japanese liberated them single handedly well almost
I admire the unbiased manner in which you assemble and display the facts to your viewing public.
Because they were men of honor,they faced the dead penalty with conciouness,under their beliefs and justice,now they are mexican heroes never forgotten by their families who still are living in Mexico.
Story goes my wife's family name of Quinn was a San Patricio. It was also said that Anthony Quinn was related.
Another excellent look at some unknown or forgotten period in history, not being from the U.S I have not heard of this particular conflict.
Unknown Traveller , where are you from? if you don't mind my asking
Being from the US, I hadn’t heard from it either lol.
Thank you for another piece of history. Until today I had never heard of this war or about its future repercussions.
My buddy is a descendant of Col. Emile Fritz, a character in the Lincoln County War in Lincoln County, New Mexico.,(Billy The Kid). A Fritz fought in the Saint Patricks, and my buddy lives in the town of San Patricio, NM....just a footnote for ya. Cannot believe The History Guy did a piece on the San Patricios!
No Irishman in his right mind would fall for Calvin or Luther considering the Protestant persecutions of the Catholic religion.
All religion is shite if you fall for it
This was a very interesting story. I was unaware of Americans fighting in the Mexican Army during War with Mexico. Thanks for sharing this unique and vital piece of history.
They were IRISH not Americans
Most were literally off the boat fleeing famine and occupation and not even citizens yet. They were Irish emigres to USA with loyalty yet and they were discriminated against by the anglos so they went to fight for Catholic Mexico.
Tropic Lightning Braver than you moron or the anglo bullies always go after the weaker. We don’t run away from a fight.
Thank you for sharing the story of the San Patricios.
A local So Cal Irish band, The Fenians, perform a song about the San Patricios, which is how we learned about them. While in Mexico City In 2003, we visited the memorial plaque next to Plaza San Jacinto in San Ángel where I understand some of the executions were conducted in sight of Carlotta's Castle in Chapultepec about 4 miles away (and apparently visible from there at the time).
Have you considered researching the Fenian Invasion of Canada? After the Civil War, Irish veterans from both sides banded together to attack Canada. There were a number of raids, but the main body was arrested by US authorities before the invasion could begin.
Also, in college when I mentioned the Mexican-American War in a class, most of the class laughed at me, since they had never heard of it before. Truly the war that Americans don't remember (despite all of them knowing the opening words, "From the halls of Montezuma...").
My ancestors were native Irish who were recruited by Mexico to settle on land grants in South Texas in order to form a buffer between the Comanche Indians and Mexico proper. They settled the area in and around San Patricio and Refugio Counties Texas.
While the San Patricio Brigade fought against the Americans during the Mexican War - these Irish expats fought for Texas Independence and fought against the Mexicans during the Mexican War.
My 3rd Great Uncle, William Quinn, a colonist from San Patricio County who had been born in Ireland was killed during the Battle of Coleto Creek, a day before the surrender of the Texans at Goliad. Look at a list of Texas men who were massacred at Goliad, and you will find many Irish names along with William Quinn.
Pat Quinn also born in Ireland and, the son of William, fought with the infamous Texas Ranger Company of Mabry "Mustang" Gray, in the Mexican War. There were many others who supported the cause of Texas Independence.
My 3rd great grandfather, Felix Hart, was murdered by Mexicans due to his support of Texas Independence and his son, my great uncle Timothy Hart signed the Texas Declaration of Independence at Goliad.
The story of these Irish-Texan heroes has long been overshadowed by the exploits of the San Patricio Brigade and is little known even in Texas.
In fact, most Texans have never heard of the settlement of South Texas by Irish immigrants - it is a fascinating tale which I have been researching for years.
Thank you for the very good treatment of the San Patricios. Not being Catholic I never thought that much of them. I now can look at their efforts with a whole lot more understanding.
I love this channel , every day I learn new history and that's saying something because I have always persued history . I believe that in these uncertain times we all just need to see a bit of reality that's happened and we know the outcome
Correction they were Irish practically fresh off the boat and not citizens yet not Americans.
He said that
John Riley was branded twice. The first man who branded him was nervous and did it upside down so the Sargent in charge re branded him on the other cheek. If the Catholic soldiers wanted to go to mass they had to leave the post and either enter the Mexican center of the town they were near or cross into Mexico. They were often punished for this and told they were not allowed to worship in their own religion.
Great explanation. A detail, as Mexican historian I can say that it's a little mistake, the photo of the general that appears in the minute 2:54 is not of Francisco Mayhaw, it's the photography of the General Tomás Mejía a conservative soldier who was killed with the emperor Maximilian of Habsburg, during the Second Mexican Empire in 1867 in the city of Querétaro. Thank you and greetings from Mexico City.
One suggestion:The Fall of Tenochtitlan
And the story of the Cadets.
Catholic forever. Thank you History Guy.
You should do a session on the Mormon Battalion during the same war. My GR GR grandfather was in that battalion. They had the longest march of any battalion and after they dispensed in San Diego part of the group earned money at Sutter’s mill and discovered gold. Interesting history. Thanks for your stories!
I like history and a well researched report. Nice report, Guy!
Thank you for mentioning that certain things that drove us into a civil war. It was not just about slavery, there were other key issues.
No, it was slavery. Read each of the traitor states letter of Succession, it was all about preserving slavery to the traitors and that is what we fought a war over. True, the North did not start suppressing the revolt to free the slaves but the traitors started it in an attempt to preserve slavery period.
I watched the video a 2nd time and the HG gives no other reason in this, or any other of his videos, that the Southern traitors desire was to preserve and expand slavery.
Dear Mr. History Guy ^_^ Learned something new, but couldn't find a video of it on your playlist. I didn't know that the longest infantry march in U.S. history took place during the Mexican-American War by the only religious military unit known as the Mormon Battalion. Our family stopped to visit the free Mormon Battalion History Museum located in San Diego, Ca's "Old Town" and was wondering why more isn't known about the Mormon Battalion's contribution to California history or about their 2,000 mile march without any lives lost. Since many were also skilled tradesmen, they were able to utilize their skills in construction projects and cutting new wagon trails (the beginning of today's freeway routes) from the mid-west to the Pacific. I was especially surprised to learn that there were women who also took part in the march. Just thought that their story will be worth the time to share with others.
Great topic and well done presentation. The study of History is fascinating to me as I have always been able to feel the humanity in historical figures. Glad I subscribed.
What an excellent topic, I'd never heard of this before. Thanks!
Good blessing 🇮🇪☘️🌟 St Patrick’s 🇲🇽
Thank you. Your views of history do not seem clouded by 21st values, but explain the reasoning and reflect the values at the time.
I once had the good fortune to head for Barra de Navidad, Mexico, for some beach time, a few days before the area filled up before the Saint's day for the town next door- San Patricio. It was named that because many survivors of the St. Patrick's Brigade received land grants there. If you go, don't arrive the day before because the hotels fill up.
The reason why many U.S. schools and colleges don't mention the Mexican-American War (1846-1848) is that the sensitivity between the two nations. Given lately of what's happening in today's toxic political climate. Also, not many Americans know about the Crimean War (1853-1856), which introduced to the world Florence Nightingale's nursing skills; and cost a British Prime Minister (the Earl of Aberdeen) his job because of the military high command's blunders. This might had ended the sale of military commissions in the U.K. because of that conflict.
serious and true, I;m from a community in Ireland where Frederick Douglas gave his speeches against slavery - other locals questioned whether the invasion of Mexico was a republican ideal - so one has a frickin' right to treat anyone like they're but guaranteed right to treat my relatives like that
Real heroes, they fought against the u.s. invasion, a brutal, coward, mercyless, bloody infamy; they fought on the right side! God bless st. Patrick batallion real human heroes.
Being a bad student , had to watch this twice . Thank you.
They were Irishmen that were treated like shit by their Anglo-Saxon officers. Irish Americans would do well to remember their brothers to the South of the border. The Americans that own that country only considered Irish as human in the 20th Century.
Reservations about the Mexican war weren't only confined to the rank and file but some of the officers saw it as nearly immoral. Grant, then a junior officer, wrote that it was "one of the most unjust ever waged by a stronger against a weaker nation. It was an instance of a republic following the bad example of European monarchies, in not considering justice in their desire to acquire additional territory." Nevertheless, he fought in several major battles, and it was where he learned his craft, as well as many other officers who would become prominent in the Civil War.
Seeing as how the Mexicans started the war by killing American soldiers several miles north of the Rio Grand in Texas I do not think they saw the start of the war as immoral, but I can see them thinking that the continuation of the wars as immoral considering they were winning every battle at the cost of innocent American and Mexican lives.
@@kraigthorne The US were very clearly agitating the Mexicans like the Germans did to Poland. The Germans justified that war by saying the Polish attacked first.
They sent troops to disputed territory that Mexico still claimed. To them, Americans had invaded Mexico and they were forced to defend their land.
@@SomeInfamousGuy By that logic the US citizens can kill ALL illegal aliens. Also, it was the English who were agitating for war between the US and Mexico. The reason for this is that the President ran on the campaign slogan 54 40 or fight. In other words, Polk promised to have the British give the USA British Columbia or the USA would take it by force. The UK knew that the USA could not fight the UK and Mexico at the same time, so the USA went to war with the Mexicans they would not be able to invade British Columbia.
@@kraigthorne No, because Mexico hasn't sent any troops past the border (without US permission). If they did the US would be justified in defending itself.
As for England and the potential invasion of British Columbia: that sounds very interesting. Could you link me some sources so I can learn more about this please?
@@kraigthorne wrong us troops violated their border.
They were still Irish citizens not American. The shame is on America.
had a pleasant surprise when i walked in to a small room in a small museum in mexico city last year to find the room was all about the san patricios and irish fighting in south america. seems the irish have a bit of a history of causing trouble in south america
Mexico is in north America. From Guatemala to Panama is central America and everthing down from Panama is south America.
Only causing trouble for the anglos which is a badge of honor.
They. Fought. Tyranny. Wherever. They. Went
The Irish left a blood line in Monterrey Nuevo Leon Mexico which I belong and Im very proud.
Since Spain sent forces to help them fight the English occupiers , the Irish-Hispanic brotherhood has been very deep .As an Argentinian , I will never forget the heroes who fought for my Mexican brothers against the Yankee invasion .
A history that deserves to be commended.
Would love a program on the Mormon Brigade during Mexican-American War.
I always enjoy your segments & appreciate your obvious knowledge and enthusiasm. This amended segment increases my respect for you; .many authors are not willing to admit errors, much less produce an amended segment. Thanks
Another brilliant video. Have you ever thought please of doing some episodes on some people from Irish history, or is it all too political? Roger Casement for example, a British diplomat and ‘before his time’ humanitarian who was executed by Britain for his part in the 1916 uprising in Ireland.
Really enjoying going back and watching some of the earlier episodes before I subscribed. Thank you for giving me another reason to do more reading on the Mexican-American war
At 2:53, you mentioned Gen. Francisco Meja, but put up a photo of Gen. Tomás Mejía, someone who was active 20 years after the war and supported the monarchists during the Empire/Republic war.
It would be similar to mentioning Zachary Taylor and putting up a photo of Ulysses Grant.
Come on owl, don't be too picky. Both Tomases shared the same last name, were mestizos and looked a bit alike.
Americans: There was a war between us and Mexico?!
Texans: Um... yeah
At least half the people in texas now are not even originally from texas.
Thank you for this most interesting video.
I've always been interested in the Saint Patrick's Battalion. There's something I've often wondered though. Since the battalion didn't just consisted of Irishmen, as the History Guy says, where there also some Cajun French from Louisiana fighting in it?
Best regards from Belgium !
It is important to note that a major incentive for desertion by those who formed the Batallón de San Patricio was the consistent and sustained mistreatment of Mexican civilians to include the rape of women and scalping of those murdered.
You should do an episode about The Battle of the Crater!!!
Oh, that hot mess. The Union was better armed, equipped, and larger in number, but was incredibly stupid. Really not a proud point in our history.
What about the successful one he made at Vicksburg
A key point that may have been missed here was the fact the Irish San Patricio's many had combat experience from fighting the British on Ireland,
I would not be surprised if many of them had been Connaught Rangers either.
The Rangers ( yes the same Ranger the US Army have) fought as elite solders in the second Afghanistan campaign by the British. Here the Irish mutiny was over poor treatment of civils and solders. Many arrived home to find there homesteads burned by the very army they served. They then went to America.
Others had been Finnian's who tired to halt the British Holocaust on Ireland ( taking away food, live stock, burning and taking the roof s of houses)
The US Army when in Northern Ireland watched British Commandos training in WW2 , they had been that impressed the decided to name the new US Army unit the Rangers in tribute of the Connaught Rangers.
Victorian Army saying : The Welsh did the stores, the Scottish did the filing, the English made the money and the Irish did the fighting!
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Not all the Irish who fought for Mexico were from the U.S.Army many were already in Mexico but Scott hung them anyway. My grandmother told me about the Irish in the U.S. she was from Mayo.
I'm from monterrey,and proud of having an Irish decent ,O'bregan my last name and have high honor for them
This might be irrelevant, but I have adhd, and I love history and your voice and the way you explain stuff and the history pictures in the video really help, thank you!!!
Fabulous summation. Please write a second part explaining that in the 1840s the Irish were escaping “the famine” which was not really a famine but outright genocide orchestrated by the British to take all our land, privatize common age, ban our language and and religion. Our population in that decade went from ten million to 2 million. 1847 was the blackest year of the famine. “western expansion” …. I now see it for what it really was. Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!
your numbers are wrong grace but we are the only nation in the world with less people today than in 1840
My birthday is in march and i love that st patricks day is the same month. Or shoukd i say i love that i was born in march because st patricks is in it. After learning more about this holiday i found that there were men that helped mexico fight a war. They celebrate st patricks all over mexico too. They have not forgotten them.
I was watching todays upload "Continents: A History: while getting ready for class and opening the days lesson tabs when lo and behold I was linked directly here for a teacher approved lesson! Thank you for the great lesson History Guy!
San Patricios. The word gringo comes from a song that the Irish soldiers would sing.
yeah ....So green grass grows bonnie spring water runs clear
I weary I weary when I think of you dear
You were my first and fond truelove but since you have rued
The fonder I loved you the falser you grew.
Saint Patrick 's batallion soldiers ... HEROS FOREVER they were European born but mexican souls that fought till the end as aztecs brave warriors and they live forever in our mexican hearts THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!
Can you do one on the expeditions of John C Fremont into California sometime in the future? Maybe mention him taking back gold from a 1842 discovery there in Los Angeles County or him being on the American River before the discovery of 1848?
Also, I would like to hear your view of the California Grizzly Bears that are now extinct? They were bigger then the species we have today. It is on my bucket list to visit the hide of "Monarch" up in a museum in the San Francisco area. He was caught in Los Angeles County in the 1890's and shipped by cattle car and held in captivity in San Francisco for over a decade.
And no, I did not know about this Irish Brigade, thank you.
Best regards and great channel!
Monarch is no longer available for public viewing as of a year ago. I went there specifically to see it and had been put away. I still am wondering wich was bigger, the Kodiak Grizzly or the Californian
Thank you for correcting the error in the pronunciation of the word Patricio. I cringed when I heard you say “Patricko” Thanks again.
You are correct--I knew nothing about this. Thanks for the enlightenment.
This is the best snip it i have seen on this story.
Thank you for this video. I just found out about this battalion and was looking for more information.
It is my (family) experience that German immigrants found slavery to be an abomination.
My 1st generation German-American great x 3 grandfather living in rural Wisconsin reportedly saw a notice at the post office that read "Help Abraham Lincoln free the Slaves" and signed up right away.
There is a movie titled ''One Mans Hero'' starring Tom Berringer,it goes into depth of why the soldiers defected.I recommend it,if you like historical films.
Thank you sir you explained this military topic very well once again i appreciate
I still have some of that irish blood im my veins, this was an interesting part of forgotten parts of this war
They need to make a movie about this 👍🇮🇪🇲🇽
It is a great thing that this is not forgotten, people of conscience, fought for what they believed in. When this was happening, the Irish Famine was taking place (An Gorta Mor), ironically, possibly two events that have had a significant direct/indirect impact on US history.
John Reilly was originally from CT Cavan Ireland. Cavan clans were always very independent. The Cavan clans were a buffer zone between the powerful O'Neils of Tyrone and the O'Connor's of Connaught. The Irish Catholics to this day have never forgotten the desecration of their country done by the puritan- Oliver Cromwell in 1647. When the Americans started desecrating Mexican land this pricked a chord in the collective memory of the Irish brigade led by John Reilly.
Interesting post.
I hadn't seen Cavan in that light before.
I'm from the O'Connor side but I'm O'Kelly clann.
Actually the O Reilly's, Maguarans, MacKiernan's and ORuarks of Leitrim and Cavan are related to the O'Connor's of Connacht. The aforementioned clans descend from the Ui Bhriun Breffni clan and the O'Connors descend from the Ui Bhriun Ai clan. The last Ard RI of Ireland was Rory O'Connor. Anyway CT Cavan has produced some good men: John Reilly of the San Patricio s, Thomas "broken- hand" Fitzpatrick a fur-trapper who negotiated peace between the US gov and the NW Native Americans. There is a wilderness area in Wyoming named after him. Ireland has it's share of heroes.
"The San Patricios at least twice, shot dead Mexican officers who tried to raise the white flag"
Goddamn that is TOO based 💚
One of the History Guy's very best videos which is saying a great deal. Surprised he didn't mention the start of the Mexican War was challenged by then first, and subsequently only one term, Congressman Abraham Lincoln who challenged President Polk with his "Spot Resolution" wanting to know the exact spot where the event that triggered the war occurred. Lincoln believed that it was U.S. aggression in an attempt to seize Texas and the rest of the SW.
The saint Patrick's battalion were not Americans...a point raised in their favor but brushed aside resulting in their mass and unlawful execution.
In terms of nationality they were considered British. However, we Irish never considered ourselves British and Ireland has been an independent sovereign nation for 100 years after it's own bloody revolutionary struggle with the British empire.
Many of the SanPatricio Irish were professional soldiers also having served in the papal wars against Garibaldi in Italy before emigrating...like John Riley from Galway, who could find solace in fighting for a Catholic cause in a catholic army,.Defending what is right was not new to them.
I am mexican and Irish n i want to learn more!! Thanks so much!