NL Interviews: Saeed Naqvi on 'Being The Other' in India
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- Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024
- Veteran journalist Saeed Naqvi has seen it all, and he's got the stories to prove it. Naqvi, who began his career in 1964 as a reporter in The Statesman, has seen the media industry grow over the decades, absorbing threats and becoming diverse. In his new book, Being the Other: The Muslim in India, Naqvi trains his eye upon India's modern history and takes some well-aimed shots at people who were once his heroes, like Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru.
Being the Other is a book that is as angry as it is nostalgic. It's filled with anecdotes and stories that sometimes delight and often disturb. There are parts where Naqvi puts away his journalist hat - like when he puts in a story based on unsubstantiated rumours about Vijaylakshmi Pandit - but for most part, the book is a richly-told memoir in which Naqvi isn't afraid to call people like Nehru and Atal Bihari Vajpayee out.
While speaking to Newslaundry, Naqvi spoke about the Hindu-Muslim divide that has grown in the past few years, the Muslim identity of Delhi as a city, and Nehru's status of the undisputed leader for Indian Muslims in the early years of independence. He also talks about how the media has created a divide in the world by playing with perceptions and how there is a need to bring "the space back for liberal discourse."
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In Bombay, I’ve been denied a rental at various points due to being a single male, having a dog, having a small child, eating meat, not being a Gujarati, not being a Catholic and so on. Looks like everyone is the ‘other’. Mr Naqvi should get over it and focus on his stellar career/ friendships rather than wallowing in self pity.
Have been a fan of Mr. Naqvi ever since I saw his interview with Steve Paikin many years ago. (edit: now I am a bit distrustful of him)
When Mr. Naqvi speaks about the growing Hindu-Muslim divide, shouldn't he primarily be addressing the inherently divisive nature of Islam, and the fact that globalization is exposing Muslims all over the world to "true" Islam and Quranic texts, which leads to Muslims abandoning their local cultures and traditions in favour of puritanical Islam.....which leads to increased tensions between the Deenis and the Kuffars?
The interview was a bit superficial. Many interesting topics were started but not pursued, and cross-questions were lacking. But maybe I should buy the book for more.
He does touch that point, though, when he says that "we were conditioned by the poets and the writers, not mullas".
@@nakulgote where is that "we" found? every Friday on the road?
Such a flawed understanding of partition; perhaps deliberately self serving. Nehru and Congress were left no choice by Jinnah’s 14 points, the same Jinnah you folks gave 87% votes to in the 1946 elections.
The best interview aired by NL thus far
He said Bangladesh is secular. Hindu there is reduced from 33% to 7%. I don't know what secularism is Saeed talking about?
Secular means mullah shouting on 5 am but hindus can’t take durga mata processions
what else you will expect from a mulla?
Naqvi claims that in 300 years not a single Urdu couplet has been written which is against the pluralistic society and Deepanjana looks with awe. Well ignorance is bliss. Here is a couplet from the great Iqbal " Chin o Arab hamaara, Hindustan hamaara, Muslim hain hum, watan hain sara jahaan hamaara". Too much for the pluralistic society. Deepanjana, stop behaving like a cheerleader. I once heard you supporting Zakir Naiq on Hafta and now this. Its good be secular and we all should be. But ignoring the mistakes of someone just because he happens to come from a minority community is also communal.
www.wikipedia.org/en/Tarana-e-Milli
what he says is urdu poems do not glorify the mullas, which the present day narration has conveniently ignored. he is not talking about pluralistic society for or against
+rohit anand yup i understood that. by pluralistic society i meant the kind of society opposed by mullah. read couplets of tarana-e-mili by iqbal. those are full of bigotry and speak in the laungage of mullah. thats what i wanted to say.
I have read that shayari. But his statement must be taken in general, not from a scholars point of view.
Thats what i think.
Mujhe bohot afsos hai mai itna din apka speech nahi sun paya tha. Great bohot achcha
deepanjana here looking breathtakingly gorgeous
The young generation of Hindus and Muslims need to bridge this growing divide. Our parents' generation have done a lousy.
Why dont you go back to Bangladesh ? Partition has been accepted by Indian.
TU WAPAS JA
Soumyakanti Chakraborty .... I agree!
Very true
Are you seriously comparing the Eifel tower, the prime specimen of the union of french industrialization and aesthetics and the Big Ben, a symbol of Britain's transition to democracy, to the Qutub minar, which was built by an invader to stamp his authority on the land of the people whom he mass slaughtered, raped and pillaged? A minar built with the beams and pillars of the temples razed by this invader?
The Eifel tower and the Big Ben are symbols of pride and indigenous achievement. The Qutub Minar is a symbol of defeat and slavery.
You should refer to more than Dinanath Batra texts
I think he was referring to many other monuments and how Delhi should be made a heritage city and its heritage should be preserved.
subhankar de I am all for heritage conservation. Was just irked by his comparison.
rohan roy Tell me if I am wrong. Also, I don't know who Dinanath Batra is. My knowledge of these structures is due to my architectural background.
Whether we like it or not the fabulous buildings built by the Mughals and others are today Indias identity. Imagine a picture of India without the Taj Mahal or the Red Fort etc.
He doses not claim to be an islamist but his heart bleeds when BJP is in power.
इंग्लैंड में मुस्लिम आबादी 4.5 प्रतिशत है, लेकिन अपने परिवार में ही विवाह के कारण अर्धविक्षिप्त लोगों में इनका हिस्सा 18 प्रतिशत है।☺️
I was here for the interview but deepanjana ur are hot.
I have immense respect for Naqvi Sahab. But after the little "accident" in 1947 , being the other is a forgone conclusion. Hope things change in the future.
I must add that I feel pained by the othering of a community despite being from a partition family
deepanjana where do you get your accent from :P :P , joking, i enjoy listening to your podcasts, both hafta and AA, yes i shall soon be a subscriber mr.sekhri if you read this :/
मवेशी साहिब कभी कम बच्चे पैदा करने के बारे में नहीं कहेंगे। वो तो कहेंगे मवेषी की तरह रहो और मवेषी की तरह बच्चे पैदा करो।
ज़्यादा बच्चे तो बन्दर, खन्जीर(सुअर) भी पैदा कर लेते हैं, फिर फर्क क्या हुआ।
Massively disappointing and completely disingenuous narrative by Mr.Naqvi.
1) Blames Nehru and Congress for creation of Pakistan when it's amply
clear that muslims of Bihar , UP, MP, Delhi and Bengal overwhelmingly
voted for Muslim league which was in favor of a Islamic state, it's a
different matter that once Pak was created a lot of them chose to stay
back.
2)Says Muslims are not a homogeneous entity (no prizes for
guessing) however proceeds to do just that by saying that Muslims across
the world were outraged with operation desert storm ,to say that only muslims were outraged , I don't recall Indian HIndus rejoicing at what happened to Iraq they were equally appalled, Shia's from Iran however by best guesses must have rejoiced seeing Saddam in trouble, so to portray Muslims as one entity is far from truth.
3) Says Muslims are used for tokenism and then does nothing to protest it instead takes the
first opportunity to tag along with IK GUjral to feed this tokenism.
4) Says Out of the 3 countries Bangladesh has the best future, Bangladesh has and continues to kill Hindus with impunity, he says the fundamentalism is residue of Jamaat-e-islami, not sure those young boys who butchered people in the cafe belonged to Jamaat.
5) Says Bangladesh had made real sacrifices as if Indian freedom fighters who fought the british were not authentic.
6) sounds as if he is waiting for a Hindu rastra to be made out of India so that he has the satisfaction of saying "I told you so". There will be no HIndu rastra, there may be Brahmin Rastra which RSS and VHP so desperately want , trying hard to bring back brahminical imperialism. If Somebody thinks Pakistan is a Muslim state he is mistaken, it's aSunni imperialist state, Shia's ahmadis and sufi's are killed for fun.
7) Mr. Naqvi says there is no debate that happens today since people don't gather in coffee shops, well those of patriarchal male gossiping with friends over multiple cups of tea and coffee are thankfully over, men of
today are helping out their wives in kitchen and kids with their homework, Mr. Naqvi seems to be completely oblivious to the debates that happen on the internet like the one we are having now.
Mr. Naqvi next time you are in the at coffee shop don't forget to smell the coffee.
I belong to a family which suffered the horrors of partition. My grandmother cried for her beloved Lahore till she breathed her last. I have always heard my elders say that Nehru and congress simply should not have accepted the partitioning of our land. So I feel there is truth in what he says.
Well said, Nitesh!
What would happened had Congress not accepted Partition ? G.B.Pant favoured Partition as alternative would have been worse. Very loose federation, Muslim Communalism and League in almost States, Hardline Muslim Insurgency and blasts as currently experienced in Pakistan would have been rampant in India. India would have been troubled and economically distracted with the internal complexities and problem of Global Islamic Movement.
@@dharmachakra2616 what people like yogi and modi are doing they are extremists
Too soft Deepanjana, too soft.
मछली को तालाब में खुद तैरना पड़ता है।हमारा शरीर भी हमेशा बैक्टीरिया वायरस से लड़ता व उन्हें निष्क्रिय करता व बाहर निकालता है तभी ज़िंदा रहता है
अहमदाबाद याद दिलाते हैं, गोधरा भूल जाते हैं। अर्धविक्षिप्त समाज की पहचान।।☺️
I agree with Naqvi’s views.
अगर कांग्रेस सरकार रह जाती तो शायद वैष्णोदेवी ओर अमरनाथ भी परमिट लेकर जाना पड़ता।
Syed Naqvi as always . . Brilliant
Wow!!! Only word that naturally comes from my mouth. The Sham that is the secular Indian identity.
Allama Iqbal planted the seed for independent Pakistan , Jinnah and Nehru delivered it for their lust of power.Helpless Sardar , the obedient disciple of Bapu remained a bystander.. Reward comes 70 years later with the Statue of Unity at Sardar Sarovar. That will insure all to see JANAZA of Congress by 2024..
Good point of view.
host looks good
credit where credit is due, my critic friend criticised a bit too much I guess ;-) and I'm definitely in awe of his (I don't know) intelligence ;-D
thank you Mr. Naqvi, I'm definitely buying your book :-)
Completely incoherent. Could not get any of his point. And what's up with the interviewer - it was as if she was being forcefully sat down with her professor and she needed to make him feel important to get her degree.
Actually he is not incoherent...it is just his way of talking that comes from Awadh...there they think that this is a bit sophisticated way of talking...but he is a man of great intellect...I must rather spank the interviewer for this...she did not dig deep enough for the gems she could have from this guy...She was being utterly professional...passion lacked...literally no engagement...Abhinandan Sekhri would have done great...where are U Mr Sekhri? Newslaundry sucks without U...Come back from ScoopWhoop...Newslaundry needs U more than ever...I believe U have made a constituency for urself since U came on RUclips...Ur fans are waiting...Me personally have thought of unsubscribing becoz boring videos with great personalities keep poping...Its U who has stopped me till now...Come back with the 'I Agree' series and revive Newslaundry...
+Azlaan Sinandi Not sure if that is true. I have seen another interview (think by Trahan herself) and that was just great. To the point and deep. Expected a lot more. Do agree that the interviewer was a total let down.
Really good conversation. And Great Host.
Who is the interviewer reporter ?
Indeed a very good interview. But we'll have to see that the kind of conversations that happen (The Ones' he's suggesting) are not hijacked by people of only one ideology or narrative. Like he rightly said, let the 100 flowers bloom (which btw he quoted Chairman Mao Zedong). The sham that followed the whole JNU episode in the name of "conversation" is the worst thing that can ever happen to what he's suggesting here.
Hoping for the best. Jai Hind.
very good looking female interviewer what's your name
Saeed Naqvi is a brilliant thinker and a good , patriotic Indian. I wish his daughter Saba Naqvi had even 10% of his intelligence and integrity.
Saeed naqui is a old man with something of a idealistic view. Unfortunately for him , and I feel for him, since this is nothing but impact of our hindu dharma on him, that he longs for belonging. Unfortunately current muslims aren't what he thinks they are... he himself acknowledges this, when he says mullah is the controlling factor.
intellect of the newslaundry team outside the core group is questionable, and just one instance proves the point, at the end of the interview Saeed Naqvi juxtaposes the India-Pakistan relationship with other things, and the journalist says "ending on a happy note" ... Newslaundry, please do not compromise on quality of journalists. :-/
i think she picked up the last part where he gave some suggestions .
Amazing interview!
NO. This is why we need Arnab G. You people accuse him of being un-parliamentary but in reality you despise him because of his opinions. Well guess what your opinions are equally unpopular, if not more.
Excellent!
double standard of title, muslims present themselves as other as arabians not hindus.
Deepaanjana, you're such a distraction! ❤
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Bangladesh is very different from India because, unlike India, it's a homogenous counter. Yet JI types tarhwt non Muslims. As far as otherwise is concerned, that othering is felt with a North Indian going to South India too, regardless of their religion. Othering is a reality in India. I wonder what he Mr Naqvi think of all the the jokes about Sikhs!
Casteiem, reginalism and languages do become a cause of othering, as religion does.
The idea of Muslims as a monolith was originated by Jinnah, and unfortunately bought by the vast majority of Muslims of the subcontinent. You ignored sect, language, the difference between the landlord and the landless, the capitalist and the exploited and just fell for the canard of Islam in danger/ new Medina. No use crying over spilt milk now. The day Muslims start exercising their political agency as responsible individuals, they will be treated as individuals and not part of a monolith.
She is very cute
Khamba dekhna kaun aayega
too boring