Everyone is talking shit in these comments but I doubt any of them have video of them hand cutting a bevel because it’s hard. This is a really good freehand bevel.
Exactly!! My point was just that it can be done by hand without all the high dollar equipment!!! Not saying it was perfect but useable for the situation.
@@haugndog It saves grinding time so what's not to like? I'm no pipeliner (due to bad back and shoulder) but I cut many tons of pipe coupons for the welding school where I ran the toolroom and your freehand cuts are excellent!
I mean I've only started cutting with the oxy acetylene torch but I've already gotten decent enough to bevel. Maybe not professional but I'd say pretty good but I've never tried beveling a pipe. Loved to try.
When I started this trade in the 70's My boss gave us a ball peen, a file and a cutting torch. Most people today lost this skill. Other than my eyes are older I can still cut, just a few more beaver teeth.
Not bad at all, it's not all that easy. Guys that say its shitty or not any good, are either the greatest torch hands alive. Or more likely have never touched a torch before
Blades 22 I appreciate that Blades! I will go a few years in between fitting up, which was the case here! It had probably been 3-4 years. The point is you don’t have to own all the high dollar bevelers to cut a pipe bevel.
I’m a 4th year apprentice plumber. I had to cut 2 6” carbon steel with acetylene torch. I cut the beveled freehand and cleaned it up with a grinder. Cutting the bevel reduced the time needed to grind a clean bevel, but this is clean! I’ll have to try this next time!
I guess this is an old school torch hand style, as a Pipefitter I would just cut it with a bandsaw, or cutting disk, and then bevel it with a grinder. He is still going to have to clean it up with a grinder anyway to prep it to fit up and weld it out.
Nice work, especially with the start and stop .....!!!! I’ve been welding and tinkering since 16 y/o in 1970 Screw all the internet expert assholes..., Well done
Was beveling 18" fixed position today about 1 ft off the ground. Looked about that good maybe a little worse. Helps to have your support hand right near the torch head. Good shit tho, beveling pipe in any position aint no spring breeze
I'll be better if you put the torch tip straight on the line and cut forward at the same angle as if you were cutting with a bevel machine you'll have a cleaner and straight cut . Nice job man
yea 33.5 degree bevel? looks like a 20°-50° depending on what quarter ur lookin at..most likely refer pipe or hydronics system down hill 6010 no inspection on fit up root or final.. get the spray paint close! and ur lookin for 37.5° bevel ther bub. lu 598 pasco wa welder
Nikolaos Pizanias i typically only deal sch 40. It is more about not having to invest in bevel cutting tooling. Especially when you only have a hand full of cuts to do. Now there are cool metal cutting saws so you get a square cut, and beveling tool cutters that are reasonably priced. If I were doing heavy production I would invest in the tooling.
michael schade would love to see it! I have been told by many plumbers that I have worked with over the years that you can't flame cut a bevel! I just wanted to share it with others that it is easily done with a little bit of practice. I may go a year or between jobs that I need to fit on. I only do it when we are in a pinch. I enjoy doing it and if I did it daily my cuts would look 10x's better. When I did this video I hadn't fit anything up for 3+ years. Part of me wants to try with a plasma cutter but I have always used a standard torch and know the feel. Please share your work. I love to see others work and methodology.
I have a video on my page of a pipe roller plasma cutting stand I made. It does thin wall pipe pretty well but I need a better plasma cutter to do thicker pipe. Plus it also works with a cutting torch as well.
I'w thinking the beveler fitters in your shop would be challenged in the field while the field hands could turn the crank or push the button just fine in your shop. But that won't happen. It's the money thing.
That's right. I always wanted to give it a try with my Plasma, but that is not how I learned! Not sure I could replicate the bevel angle and keep my hand away from the heat!
Luke P. My point is to show how simple it can be to "flame cut a bevel" without all the expensive tools. If all I did was fit pipe, it would make sense, but for a few days here and there on a project, through out a year, I do just fine the old school way.
I don't normally do that. I did a 4" fire man under a BART pad that we had to hydro with very little coverage and we restrained and strapped it down and it still snaked all over the place at 150psl.
shaufik hidayat you're welcome. I may not be perfect at it, but the point is that you can do it with a cutting torch. Sometimes I go years in between fitting pipe so the little I do doesn't warrant the investment of a beveling tool. Rigid recently came out with a cutter head that clamps on the end of the pipe and rotates around the pipe. It will do from 4" up and I think the cost may be around $2k.
And this folks is the problem with this type of mindset in society. You have to find a middle ground between perfect as you claim b/c you are hourly (I call this milking the clock and working yourself out of a job!) And production so you ensure you make the company money and therefore you have a job in the long run. I bet you sit at home when the work dries up!
Sebastian Rocha obviously you didn’t read my other comments and the point I was making. I have used beveling machines, they are great, just not always available. What do you do if your bevel tool breaks down? Go home?
It looks like shit I bet y'all are doing hvac pipe yeah you are all water pipe shit would not fly in a shop or a plant construction site lol it's good if it's just water chiller pipes but can't do dat on high pressure asme piping
Get your free hand positioned right and make the cut in three turns on a 4 inch. Turn the ox down a little and you won't need a file. The beater will do the work when you pound a land onto it. I worked 20 years using a gas axe and a three pounder to make up x-ray joints. A grinder is for grinders. Fitting is for fitters. How many grinders you know making double bubble? If you hear your welder whining it's because you didn't buck him up enough to keep him from engaging his yap.
+ralphgomez78 Ralph, I'm not sure what a metabo is, maybe you can explain.I can get a really clean bevel on larger pipe. Especially if I get a chance to stay out in the field and get a few warm up cuts in. Most of my stuff is sch 40 medium pressure gas, so it doesn't require x-rayed welds. My welders do not have a problem with minor imperfections. I was taught by an old timer back in the early 90's and found it to be a lot faster than hand beveling or an air beveler. Now that there are metal cutting chop saws instead of old school chop saws the cuts are much closer to being square prior to hand grinding.
+Shannon Haugen thata cool man a metabo is like a chop saw but for a 6" grinder the disc is only 16th wide great for cutting pipe but this could be useful when you get up to bigger bore pipe especially if you can get a smooth cut.
outstanding, I have over 30 years and I hardly see art like that anymore.
Everyone is talking shit in these comments but I doubt any of them have video of them hand cutting a bevel because it’s hard. This is a really good freehand bevel.
Exactly!! My point was just that it can be done by hand without all the high dollar equipment!!! Not saying it was perfect but useable for the situation.
We have a saying in the pipe business as pipewelder, you can fool the fans but you can't fool the players keep on practicing brother
Lol, it's not hard at all.
@@haugndog It saves grinding time so what's not to like? I'm no pipeliner (due to bad back and shoulder) but I cut many tons of pipe coupons for the welding school where I ran the toolroom and your freehand cuts are excellent!
@@yessirmaster670 That's what she said.
A good fitter can cut a bevel with a torch. 10x faster than a grinder! I too was taught by a badass old timer.
damn right, my eyes are going and cannot see as well but I used to cut pipe like glass. UA local 46 Toronto
Tony Silva nobody asked u
I saw once an old fitter that can cut pipe profile and bevel at a same time.
This is not a good quality only for progress i dont like this.
OK
I mean I've only started cutting with the oxy acetylene torch but I've already gotten decent enough to bevel. Maybe not professional but I'd say pretty good but I've never tried beveling a pipe. Loved to try.
When I started this trade in the 70's My boss gave us a ball peen, a file and a cutting torch. Most people today lost this skill. Other than my eyes are older I can still cut, just a few more beaver teeth.
Yea, love that "beat on land" & that is one hell of a bevel, slick
Not bad at all, it's not all that easy. Guys that say its shitty or not any good, are either the greatest torch hands alive. Or more likely have never touched a torch before
Blades 22 I appreciate that Blades! I will go a few years in between fitting up, which was the case here! It had probably been 3-4 years. The point is you don’t have to own all the high dollar bevelers to cut a pipe bevel.
- Well skilled Fitter... Thanks
good straight cut and beveled at the same time
I’m a 4th year apprentice plumber. I had to cut 2 6” carbon steel with acetylene torch. I cut the beveled freehand and cleaned it up with a grinder.
Cutting the bevel reduced the time needed to grind a clean bevel, but this is clean! I’ll have to try this next time!
Молодец мужик! Четко под фаску отрезал!
Фаска огонь
Back in school i used to do do Straight Cut and then bevel grind it down.
I guess this is an old school torch hand style, as a Pipefitter I would just cut it with a bandsaw, or cutting disk, and then bevel it with a grinder. He is still going to have to clean it up with a grinder anyway to prep it to fit up and weld it out.
Hey guero Te quedo smoothly como nalga de india.
Imposing share one video
Think you will need more than a file to sort that prep out mate, RAF!!
After the pipes where all laid out, I was able to cut and bevel 15 pieces in less than 1 hour! Tack it up!!! Almost no grinding necessary.
looks good!! Tack it!
Smooth! I'm curious as to how you hold the parts together when it comes time to weld them?
Old school method is with a large clamp with short pieces of angle iron welded to them. A chunk of strut works well too. ultra clamps are the best.
Thanks! As someone whose trade was printing for a number of years, I find it interesting how the other trades take care of business!
a piece of angle iron and one of those vice grip chain clamps is what we used......2" schd 10 water lines just but it up and tack it lol
Nice work, especially with the start and stop .....!!!!
I’ve been welding and tinkering since 16 y/o in 1970
Screw all the internet expert assholes...,
Well done
Excellent job 👏👏👏
That is a dieing skill for sure. Amazing work. Your patiences is amazing. I always get to excited and shake to much. Lol
Thick CA y? CD hmm
What did you set your oxy/acel at?
Love the file as a saw....
Multipurpose file
Good hand cutting skill
Was beveling 18" fixed position today about 1 ft off the ground. Looked about that good maybe a little worse. Helps to have your support hand right near the torch head. Good shit tho, beveling pipe in any position aint no spring breeze
👍🏾👍🏾not bad grind a smooth landing and its a go once u tack that sucker cool free hand job
А вот эти движения кувалдой меня радуют. И претупление сделает и выравнит пока горячая труба.
I'll be better if you put the torch tip straight on the line and cut forward at the same angle as if you were cutting with a bevel machine you'll have a cleaner and straight cut . Nice job man
was he touching the tip to the pipe?
Very tough to cut a bevel freehand. I usually try to prop my hands on something when cutting freehand with my everlast plasma cutter.
Good show! Not only did you cut the pipe but you made it weld ready with a bevel. Knock off dross and set up the MIG or stick welder!
Caroline the cat ! Or tack it with TIG
I cut all bucktoothed like that too. It makes me a better grinder though.
Lol...ain't it
Very good work!
Pretty cool. Doesn't it need to be ground smooth? Just curious. Pretty fawkin awesome either way!
drumtwo4seven yessir, after torch beveling you’d touch the surface with a grinder to make it smooth and make a land.
Unless it's tig root you'd knife edge , please elaborate before you say a land is necessary
Great job 👍
What are the advantages of cutting a bevel? I used to be a demo laborer and I would just cut straight in
Pipe fitting
Nice job dude I would screw that all up lol. It would look like I was blind
😆 i would've end looking like a 45 if it was me
yea 33.5 degree bevel? looks like a 20°-50° depending on what quarter ur lookin at..most likely refer pipe or hydronics system down hill 6010 no inspection on fit up root or final.. get the spray paint close! and ur lookin for 37.5° bevel ther bub. lu 598 pasco wa welder
hope you got a lot of grinding disc
James King lmaoooo
It will required less no. Of discs as compared to make bevel with grinder
Won’t even take half of a disc to get that thing looking factory with that cut. Clean as hell
開先つけながら切るってすごいですね
自分だったらグラインダーで切った後グラインダーで開先つくって時間かけてしまいます( ﾟ∀ﾟ)
give me a grinder. I'll show ya! lol
That's a nice cut
Nice job! Clearly you've done this before.
He even smashed a landing with the sledge! Lmao but seriously that was a nice cut!
Skill!
為什麼不想只接用切管機切呢！開槽稍微磨一下就好了呀！
Good job that's how I do it ..Leo UAL46
what are the actual benefits of cutting with gas instead than with a grinder? Thick material ,yes, but if the material is thin? I dont see benefits.
Nikolaos Pizanias i typically only deal sch 40. It is more about not having to invest in bevel cutting tooling. Especially when you only have a hand full of cuts to do. Now there are cool metal cutting saws so you get a square cut, and beveling tool cutters that are reasonably priced. If I were doing heavy production I would invest in the tooling.
Lay a square on it that’ll show if you cut it right lol
Hell no! Just take a crack
Tack it. Weld it. On to the next one.
Great skill by the way!! A lot of ppl don’t know how to use a torch
great work!!!
good job
What do u call a Russian burner ? Hakalumpov
Beautiful
Damm good job
Like to see the Eddy results for that weld.
Use a power roller do a masterful job!
a cut covered in striations and dross is irritating, as a welder. as a fitter, my roll cuts look machined. I'll have to put up a video.
michael schade would love to see it!
I have been told by many plumbers that I have worked with over the years that you can't flame cut a bevel! I just wanted to share it with others that it is easily done with a little bit of practice.
I may go a year or between jobs that I need to fit on. I only do it when we are in a pinch. I enjoy doing it and if I did it daily my cuts would look 10x's better.
When I did this video I hadn't fit anything up for 3+ years. Part of me wants to try with a plasma cutter but I have always used a standard torch and know the feel.
Please share your work. I love to see others work and methodology.
Right on. Its tough if you don't do it every day.
what name right video
I have a video on my page of a pipe roller plasma cutting stand I made. It does thin wall pipe pretty well but I need a better plasma cutter to do thicker pipe. Plus it also works with a cutting torch as well.
Explain what doesnt irritate a welder
not too shabby
Bravo sir.
this cut would not pass in my shop. we would use a torch bevel machine
Ma'am my point was that it is easily possible to hand flame cut your bevel WITHOUT A MACHINE OR JIG.
I'w thinking the beveler fitters in your shop would be challenged in the field while the field hands could turn the crank or push the button just fine in your shop.
But that won't happen. It's the money thing.
saddle bend calculate????
Tack it , Leslie
one thing that a bigger torch makes alot easier cuz u can rest the neck on the pipe
That's right. I always wanted to give it a try with my Plasma, but that is not how I learned! Not sure I could replicate the bevel angle and keep my hand away from the heat!
Awesome!
Where you get that alligator hot saw from, looks like you may have cut the wrong side of the line
Neil Gooden I see you're a bright one, so I am not going g to waste my time. By the way I cut exactly where I had intended and my length was spot on.
Great idea
great job!!
Nice cutting..
Get a mathey dearman beveller and roll on. I could make 2 cuts and have them cleaned up by the time you get a wrap around mark
Luke P. My point is to show how simple it can be to "flame cut a bevel" without all the expensive tools. If all I did was fit pipe, it would make sense, but for a few days here and there on a project, through out a year, I do just fine the old school way.
Good job bravo
Dear God someone teach that man how to use a file right. Y'all seriously gonna weld that with a jagged kerf on it???
bravo!
pls upload videos of hyd.pressure testing procedure of DI pipe fittngs like tee,elbow,reducer
I don't normally do that.
I did a 4" fire man under a BART pad that we had to hydro with very little coverage and we restrained and strapped it down and it still snaked all over the place at 150psl.
Резка на троечку,кто понятие имеет о резке трубы,меня поймёт.
You do know they make a 72 deg. head.
Thanks for the video..
shaufik hidayat you're welcome. I may not be perfect at it, but the point is that you can do it with a cutting torch. Sometimes I go years in between fitting pipe so the little I do doesn't warrant the investment of a beveling tool.
Rigid recently came out with a cutter head that clamps on the end of the pipe and rotates around the pipe. It will do from 4" up and I think the cost may be around $2k.
Looks like a shark took a bite out of the pipe
Cool. But I get paid by the hour. I like everything to be exact.
And this folks is the problem with this type of mindset in society. You have to find a middle ground between perfect as you claim b/c you are hourly (I call this milking the clock and working yourself out of a job!) And production so you ensure you make the company money and therefore you have a job in the long run.
I bet you sit at home when the work dries up!
Tip is too close imo.
I think I'll take a wafer wheel and Millhog please.
that kind of fitting we dont try to show off wher im from.. more like get the welder quick sry for fit.. but cover this make sure it dont leak lol!
Just grind it out ! 👍👍👍
Welding boss said if u dont look busy u can get ur ass on the unemployment line... someone show these guys what a bevel machine is...
Sebastian Rocha obviously you didn’t read my other comments and the point I was making.
I have used beveling machines, they are great, just not always available.
What do you do if your bevel tool breaks down? Go home?
that was nice man.
ummm. don't you mean 37.5 is what your looking for? never heard of 33.5.
Meanwhile I don't even know how to use oxy acetylene lol
It looks like shit I bet y'all are doing hvac pipe yeah you are all water pipe shit would not fly in a shop or a plant construction site lol it's good if it's just water chiller pipes but can't do dat on high pressure asme piping
City Boy713 understood. It is only low pressure gas (
Good fitter cutting
Good jobs ,
Этим резком не трубу резать надо, а листовое железо, и при резке трубы резак так не держат.
You are very good but I did not use oxygen in the profession Faberkishn
Get your free hand positioned right and make the cut in three turns on a 4 inch.
Turn the ox down a little and you won't need a file. The beater will do the work when you pound a land onto it.
I worked 20 years using a gas axe and a three pounder to make up x-ray joints.
A grinder is for grinders. Fitting is for fitters. How many grinders you know making double bubble?
If you hear your welder whining it's because you didn't buck him up enough to keep him from engaging his yap.
Thanks for the pointers!
it takes practice
were you ever able to get a cleaner cut im not being a dick im just curious i dont get the luxury of a bevel machine so i have to use a metabo
+ralphgomez78 Ralph, I'm not sure what a metabo is, maybe you can explain.I can get a really clean bevel on larger pipe. Especially if I get a chance to stay out in the field and get a few warm up cuts in. Most of my stuff is sch 40 medium pressure gas, so it doesn't require x-rayed welds. My welders do not have a problem with minor imperfections. I was taught by an old timer back in the early 90's and found it to be a lot faster than hand beveling or an air beveler. Now that there are metal cutting chop saws instead of old school chop saws the cuts are much closer to being square prior to hand grinding.
+Shannon Haugen thata cool man a metabo is like a chop saw but for a 6" grinder the disc is only 16th wide great for cutting pipe but this could be useful when you get up to bigger bore pipe especially if you can get a smooth cut.
Ay que echarle más ganitas
Let's level and square it?
Looks like a beaver chewed it off.
A good welder could handle that fit. But he better be good.
Y la cadena del banco, será para apretarse el cuello.
English please.
¡Ah! no tienes traductor.Y con esto concluyo.
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