I have the 6105 which was passed down to me from my father and I picked up the same SLA033 to sit side by side in my collection. I’m so stoked to have both of these. They are expensive but as Rolex etc are becoming ridiculous Seiko are becoming ultra cool
Thanks for the great info. The SLA033 is one of my favorite Seikos of all time. I didn't know Joe Rogan was into watches, but I know he rocks an SLA033.
I love my SLA033. I learned that the Hawaiian surf legend Eddie Aikau wore a 6105 back in the day, and I knew I needed one. I wear it surfing on the North Shore, and it performs perfectly. Eddie Would Go!!
Howzit! I did not know Eddie wore a 6105. That's cool. I'm from Maui and also have a SLA033, and a 6105. Love them both but surf with my trusty Seamaster. Shootz!
@@kahuna2 hey brah! Nice to know there’s someone else in Hawaii who loves this watch. Maybe we will run into each other sometime. You’ll know it’s me :)
I own an original 6105 captain Willard from 1975. The bezel is not friction fit but had the infamous click ball and spring mechanism that would either rust over time, or get gummed up with dirt and grime, and not work making it seem like a friction fitted bezel. The only purpose of the locking crown with arrow was to keep the crown from accidentally changing date setting if the wearer should turn the crown counterclockwise before locking the crown. Turning the crown clockwise would not affect date, thus the direction of arrow. The five (or six) larger grooves on crown would fit into a post on the case which would “lock” crown and prevent turning movement. This was used before threaded crowns.
the bezel rim is also thicker ...and the size is 45mm... The SLA051 is better. The Prospex Willard X variants have the bezel crystal much closer to the original.
Got the same JDM reference willard when I visited Japan last, only difference to international reference is the first 500 serials are for Japan...I have number 99
A beautiful piece 😍 personally I prefer the newer smaller willards. Granted they don't have the movement from the SLA, but I love how the new ones wear.
I love the SLA line. I hope seiko keeps expanding this line. I love my SLA023 and I will definitely pick up another one someday because when you have one in your hand you can feel the difference between these and an sbdc or other prospex. They are definitely worth the money in my view. Im not that big on the willard style case but it’s still an awesome watch and I love the 8L35. It’s a great movement. The crown movement feels awesome on mine.
The modern reissue actually has merits over this model..cooler box crystal, better size, slow beat movement (like the original), more of a tool watch (again like the original)...better strap/bracelet size (20mm), and of course, value for money!
Great review 👏 I love Seiko, but can't see paying that kind of money for these re-issued watches. I guess it's all about taste, desire and what makes you happy.
Yes, the arrow on the 6105 went counter clockwise. It has a pin on the case that sticks into the grooves on the crown to keep it from turning when closed. But I’m actuality it doesn’t matter which way you turn it, as long as the pin finds the groove
@@algorithm007ify there's so many of these aftermarket so called homage style turtle watches out there, I kind of feel like the genuine watch is devalued.
Wow that price is wow. Had to do a double-take when I heard that. Seiko super fans out there... beautiful watch but whoo wee. edit: it came to me, I know what this watch is, it's for when you need some pain to quit buying Seiko divers. Exit diver, break the habit. I get it now.
Question, if not for the success of the movie, would they still demand such price tag? Captain Willard is a common man, not rich or anything. The watch on his hand was affordable. Just saying
same with any vintage rolex tho and the 62mas, who the weren’t particularly expensive at the time. I think with inflation and exchange the mas and 6105 were like paying $700.
@@MrMadvillan Your argument is completely irrelevant. The price of vintage Rolex was not set by Rolex but the market itself. Seiko is asking people to pay high price for a re-issue (not the original vintage).
@@sobeit712 woh relax. Jesus. I'm saying rolex in the 50s and 60s weren't nearly expensive or as valued as they are now, just like the Willard. but ok lets do this then. You're trying to tell me that because a _character_ in a move is a "common man" that the watch should for some reason be in expensive as well? What about when Che Guevara wore a rolex pepsi that was given to him by Castro? Work your doofus logic on that and maybe learn some manners you goof.
@@MrMadvillan This is not actual vintage we are talking about here. Actual vintage can be expensive, and in many cases, should be, as it has actual history. This is a newly produced homage of vintage. Two different things.
"In the early 1970s, the 18kt Rolex Submariner was introduced and could be purchased for $230, or $1,422 when adjusted for inflation. The stainless steel Submariner with a date had a price of $385, or $2,080 with inflation." ... same goes for the 6105 Willard, adjusted for inflation, around 700$. this is just how watch pricing has gone up, with or without a movie. the 62mas, even more so, no movie.
Why didn’t they get the glass right? The reflection of the minute markers caused my the beveled glass is a Willard signature. It doesn’t look right without it. All the other 6105 tributes have it. It’s a real flaw with this one!
I had a Steeldive 6105 and put it on an Uncle Seiko strap with 2.5 mm spring bars. I have an 8 inch wrist and the Uncle Seiko strap was too tight and fat spring bars fit but are not secure and will pop out eventually as did mine dropping the watch and broke the movement. Best keep your original spring bars.
Can we sort out our terms. I don’t think you can homage your own work like Steven Spielberg doesn’t homage his own films. I like ‘reissue’ or modern reinterpretation. And Chinese clones are not homage either bc they are not done as a nod our of respect, rather a cash grab, or opportunism. To me homages borrow design elements but in the watch world the term is sort of meaningless, like the way people use ‘literally’ these days, it doesn’t really mean anything.
This is the largest watch I have, the specific shape though prevents it from “hanging over” or looking unreasonably large. And the lume charges even in a dimly lit room, and can still be read hours later.
Get this watch back, buy a steeldive sterile dial 6105. Put them side by side in an honest review. Tell us that this watch isn't hideously overpriced. I dare ya.
Yes and no. On face value, it is closest to the 6105..however, it is larger (45mm), the bezel rim is thicker and super polished, and the crown is not directly at 4 o'clock. The SLA051 is closer in some ways (44mm, same size) and so are the modern WIllardX (crystal bevelling, same beat rate movement, bezel looks more like original with a less finished aluminium, more of a tool watch feel like the original).
My Steeldive 6105 arrived two days ago. I own Seiko turtles, samurais, tunas and a monster and love the look of the Willard re-issues, but at 3.5% of the cost for this limited version or 9% cost of the latest ‘budget’ Willard, I’m more than happy with the homage. I have Seiko’s with QC issues that the SD nails. I don’t hate Seiko, I’m a fan, but I’m not paying their ransom for the Willards when this SD has the same look, feel, specs and wearing experience but with better QC. Each to their own though.
Thank you for that. These are limited so more for us who want one and are willing to pay. lol! Wish I saw this model before, I just found out about it very recently. Out of curiosity, which one did you get?
I have the 6105 which was passed down to me from my father and I picked up the same SLA033 to sit side by side in my collection. I’m so stoked to have both of these. They are expensive but as Rolex etc are becoming ridiculous Seiko are becoming ultra cool
Thanks for the great info. The SLA033 is one of my favorite Seikos of all time. I didn't know Joe Rogan was into watches, but I know he rocks an SLA033.
Really? Joe Rogan has gone up in my estimation for wearing a SLA033.
PS: Who is Joe Rogan (I'm from England).
@@humayunmirza6835 He's also into Omegas.
@@humayunmirza6835 And now this watch has gone down in my estimation for being worn by Jore Ogan.
Should have mine in 2 weeks! Can’t wait! Great vid overview
"Okay. That's enough. Stuff it in the diver. Let's get that out of here. "
- Seiko master watchmakers. :)
I love my SLA033. I learned that the Hawaiian surf legend Eddie Aikau wore a 6105 back in the day, and I knew I needed one. I wear it surfing on the North Shore, and it performs perfectly. Eddie Would Go!!
Howzit! I did not know Eddie wore a 6105. That's cool. I'm from Maui and also have a SLA033, and a 6105. Love them both but surf with my trusty Seamaster. Shootz!
@@kahuna2 hey brah! Nice to know there’s someone else in Hawaii who loves this watch. Maybe we will run into each other sometime. You’ll know it’s me :)
I own an original 6105 captain Willard from 1975. The bezel is not friction fit but had the infamous click ball and spring mechanism that would either rust over time, or get gummed up with dirt and grime, and not work making it seem like a friction fitted bezel. The only purpose of the locking crown with arrow was to keep the crown from accidentally changing date setting if the wearer should turn the crown counterclockwise before locking the crown. Turning the crown clockwise would not affect date, thus the direction of arrow. The five (or six) larger grooves on crown would fit into a post on the case which would “lock” crown and prevent turning movement. This was used before threaded crowns.
That loom just won’t stop shining!
My one gripe is that they screwed up the crystal. It doesn't have the huge bevel that gives the original such character.
the bezel rim is also thicker ...and the size is 45mm... The SLA051 is better. The Prospex Willard X variants have the bezel crystal much closer to the original.
Agree!!! A Willard doesn’t look right without the minute marker reflections.
Got the same JDM reference willard when I visited Japan last, only difference to international reference is the first 500 serials are for Japan...I have number 99
A beautiful piece 😍 personally I prefer the newer smaller willards. Granted they don't have the movement from the SLA, but I love how the new ones wear.
God damn that case shape is beautiful! I love my blue willard!
blue willardX wears better..
One of my grails right there.
I love the SLA line. I hope seiko keeps expanding this line. I love my SLA023 and I will definitely pick up another one someday because when you have one in your hand you can feel the difference between these and an sbdc or other prospex. They are definitely worth the money in my view. Im not that big on the willard style case but it’s still an awesome watch and I love the 8L35. It’s a great movement. The crown movement feels awesome on mine.
I wish I could get this watch. Everything about it is beautiful, love the deep blue color on the dial.
One for the hard core Seikopaths with more discretionary $$ than me. I'm fine with the more modern reissue.
The modern reissue actually has merits over this model..cooler box crystal, better size, slow beat movement (like the original), more of a tool watch (again like the original)...better strap/bracelet size (20mm), and of course, value for money!
@@algorithm007ify agreed
Great review 👏 I love Seiko, but can't see paying that kind of money for these re-issued watches. I guess it's all about taste, desire and what makes you happy.
When these first arrived in Australia they were $7500-$8000 😱
It's a beautiful watch, but for $200 I got the Steeldive version with a ceramic bezel, 44mm like the original :)
why not just get a cutout of the watch from a magazine... That would be more respectable.
Snob.
Thank you once again for a beautiful review and video!
I really love the look of this watch, but at the price, I will never pick one up.
Yes, the arrow on the 6105 went counter clockwise. It has a pin on the case that sticks into the grooves on the crown to keep it from turning when closed. But I’m actuality it doesn’t matter which way you turn it, as long as the pin finds the groove
The thing with the gaskets - one can learn new things every day :-D
I’ll take the Steeldive version which is made from Seiko parts for $85 on Aliexpress.
i got one recently and it is super good. the bracelet is alright but can't complain for the price.
I purchased the neutral dial version, then purchased the OEM 6105 dial for $50 .. now I have my own 'homage' 😉
curious if you do or have owned any seikos?
No way...Chinese made..disgraceful watch...Get a Seiko WIllardX second hand...
@@algorithm007ify there's so many of these aftermarket so called homage style turtle watches out there, I kind of feel like the genuine watch is devalued.
Wow that price is wow. Had to do a double-take when I heard that. Seiko super fans out there... beautiful watch but whoo wee. edit: it came to me, I know what this watch is, it's for when you need some pain to quit buying Seiko divers. Exit diver, break the habit. I get it now.
The biggest thing I picked up on was the crowns have a different orientation on the case.
Question, if not for the success of the movie, would they still demand such price tag? Captain Willard is a common man, not rich or anything. The watch on his hand was affordable. Just saying
same with any vintage rolex tho and the 62mas, who the weren’t particularly expensive at the time. I think with inflation and exchange the mas and 6105 were like paying $700.
@@MrMadvillan Your argument is completely irrelevant. The price of vintage Rolex was not set by Rolex but the market itself. Seiko is asking people to pay high price for a re-issue (not the original vintage).
@@sobeit712 woh relax. Jesus. I'm saying rolex in the 50s and 60s weren't nearly expensive or as valued as they are now, just like the Willard. but ok lets do this then. You're trying to tell me that because a _character_ in a move is a "common man" that the watch should for some reason be in expensive as well? What about when Che Guevara wore a rolex pepsi that was given to him by Castro? Work your doofus logic on that and maybe learn some manners you goof.
@@MrMadvillan This is not actual vintage we are talking about here. Actual vintage can be expensive, and in many cases, should be, as it has actual history. This is a newly produced homage of vintage. Two different things.
"In the early 1970s, the 18kt Rolex Submariner was introduced and could be purchased for $230, or $1,422 when adjusted for inflation. The stainless steel Submariner with a date had a price of $385, or $2,080 with inflation." ... same goes for the 6105 Willard, adjusted for inflation, around 700$. this is just how watch pricing has gone up, with or without a movie. the 62mas, even more so, no movie.
I don’t think this is considered a Willard though because the crown is a bit lower
Why didn’t they get the glass right? The reflection of the minute markers caused my the beveled glass is a Willard signature. It doesn’t look right without it. All the other 6105 tributes have it. It’s a real flaw with this one!
notice that they don't put the hideous prospex "X" on their higher end watches?
they do..MM300. Just not on vintage reissues
@@algorithm007ify MM300 is not higher end. More mid.
I just recently bought a steeldive 6105. Does anyone know if the 2.5mm spring bars will fit. Thanks Rob for taking the time and anyone that may know.
I had a Steeldive 6105 and put it on an Uncle Seiko strap with 2.5 mm spring bars. I have an 8 inch wrist and the Uncle Seiko strap was too tight and fat spring bars fit but are not secure and will pop out eventually as did mine dropping the watch and broke the movement. Best keep your original spring bars.
its a nice watch, really wish I'd got this one.
Can we sort out our terms. I don’t think you can homage your own work like Steven Spielberg doesn’t homage his own films. I like ‘reissue’ or modern reinterpretation. And Chinese clones are not homage either bc they are not done as a nod our of respect, rather a cash grab, or opportunism. To me homages borrow design elements but in the watch world the term is sort of meaningless, like the way people use ‘literally’ these days, it doesn’t really mean anything.
Seiko call this SLA033 a recreation.
i had uncle Seiko waffle strap - it was so bad quality it felt apart within a year :/
This is the largest watch I have, the specific shape though prevents it from “hanging over” or looking unreasonably large. And the lume charges even in a dimly lit room, and can still be read hours later.
SLA051 is better...
Get this watch back, buy a steeldive sterile dial 6105. Put them side by side in an honest review. Tell us that this watch isn't hideously overpriced. I dare ya.
¥90,000 more than the mm300
Can't they make one that's not limited and reissue it?
this is the first and closest tribute to the 6105 willard
Yes and no. On face value, it is closest to the 6105..however, it is larger (45mm), the bezel rim is thicker and super polished, and the crown is not directly at 4 o'clock. The SLA051 is closer in some ways (44mm, same size) and so are the modern WIllardX (crystal bevelling, same beat rate movement, bezel looks more like original with a less finished aluminium, more of a tool watch feel like the original).
Strap is not wide enough looks stupid. the strap I mean the watch looks really nice
Nice review
How does the bezel action and winding the crown compare to your Rolex? What are the differences?
As much as I like the idea of owning a Captain Willard there is zero chance I'm spending that much on a Seiko..... ZERO
My Steeldive 6105 arrived two days ago.
I own Seiko turtles, samurais, tunas and a monster and love the look of the Willard re-issues, but at 3.5% of the cost for this limited version or 9% cost of the latest ‘budget’ Willard, I’m more than happy with the homage.
I have Seiko’s with QC issues that the SD nails.
I don’t hate Seiko, I’m a fan, but I’m not paying their ransom for the Willards when this SD has the same look, feel, specs and wearing experience but with better QC.
Each to their own though.
@@ash9058 Chinese brand and made?
@@algorithm007ify yes
@@ash9058 ok then no thanks..
Thank you for that. These are limited so more for us who want one and are willing to pay. lol! Wish I saw this model before, I just found out about it very recently. Out of curiosity, which one did you get?
You'd have to be off your head to spend that money on this.
Beautiful watch although not as beautiful as my $4,000.00 in the bank, they look a lot beautiful there.
2 Oz of gold bullion in your desk drawer might look even better.
Can you ask Homer if I can borrow the SLA033 next? Thx.
It’s for sale