it's so weird to see 4 intelligent people with diverse opinions talk about hot button issues without using propaganda and left wing/right wing talking points. so refreshing. please keep doing this guys
They did in the start man. Radical left??? Sosial democracy is by their definition radical left...oh boy...Scandinavia is radical the most phosphorus country's...This guys are radical right without knowing that...🤑🤯
@@bjrnerlingchristophersen1148 it's crazy man. I only started watching this because of Chamath and I've watched the first 8 episodes and it's amazing to me how they talk about the "radical left" and how it's such a fluid boogeyman for them. Sometimes the radical left is "social democrats like Bernie Aoc" other times the radical left are the centrist dems...lmfao. Just whatever it needs to be when they are criticizing the left. I guess everyone's serving their class interests at the end of the day 🤷♂️
Expect when they talk about leftist policys... then this podcast just devolves into Fox News as they relentlessly bash it and pretend no one supports it even though every single democrat that fought for Medicare for all WON their election while every other democrat who did not lost. Same for the green new deal. Oh corse they didn't mention it in the podcast
This is such an enjoyable chat. Intelligent mature discussions, respectful attitudes and no one needing to dominate or stroke their own ego. Thanks guys.
Great podcast. You have to start making shorter clips of the more interesting moments so people who do not clik on a one-hour video start kwowing you. You are a positive force and the more people get to listen to your podcast the better for your society. Have a great day, guys!
Joe Rogan type clips I agree would blow this channel up but would also cut off the best bit about this podcast the long form discussion. If the clips were like 7/10 mins long about a certain topic could work but should be uploaded to a seperate channel I reckon
@41:47 - @42:30 is so on point. It's never should be a left & right issue. It should be whoever they are discussing real issues and come up with solutions :)
Great podcast however got to disagree with the point being up of San Francisco's bad fiscal management. The public employees get paid 6 figures because that's the only realistic way to cover their living expenses after the start-ups there have increased the rents and use tax loop holes to avoid paying tax. It isn't 100% on the local government there. Rampant homelessness there is just the price they're paying for SF's fame just like LA. If I was homeless I'd move to California.
For reference: socialism is wildly different from state capitalism. Much of what the political right calls socialism is more accurately describes as state capitalism. Using the word "socialism" to describe how the idea of healthcare for every citizen, that costs less and has the same outcomes, is disingenuous at best. Where anyone can go to any doctor. That increases freedom of choice, not decreases it. Compare that to what we have now, hundreds of companies with thousands of plans and the goal of each and every one of them is to rip off their customers. They tell which procedures are covered, and which are not, which doctor you can see and which one you can not see. C'mon. It's right there in front of all of us. Call a spade a spade. For example, if you don't like your doctor, and want a new one, but that doctor is the only one in-network in that part of town, then what is one to do? The point here is not that it is impossible to solve this dilemma, but that it takes work and therefore discourages people from doing it. Whereas if anyone could go to any doctor simply because they wanted to, that would be an easier system to work within. Don't tell me we have "freedom" now, because that's an illusion of Big Media.
Come on all media -Bloomberg does great job -So does PBS- The NYT and WSJ does do a reasonable job of offering both an accurate reporting. Reporting accurate news with no slight at this most polarizing time, has been extremely difficult.
"Al Gore didn't concede for 37 days..." I'm sorry, that's a specious argument. There is a big difference between Al Gore contesting a 500 vote margin in Florida and Trump systematically trying to undermine the election results across the board.
I help to run an enterprise fund that takes no taxpayer money. Anyway, it is absolutely scary how spectacularly badly elected officials run public budgets. Spectacularly bad. No risk management, no nothing. 3%-4% revenue growth assumptions into perpetuity. Based on what!?
Lol is this a joke?? They constantly bash the left for wanting a higher minimum wage and cheaper healthcare and act like we're "radicals" for it. Keep in mind companies make life dependent medicine for like $2 and then sell it for $150. Also the minimum wage hasn't increased in like 2 decades while inflation has consistently went up year after year over the same time
Many of the people in the two opposing major political parties vote the way they did for the same reason. It's amazing how much we all have in common. The overwhelming majority of people, I think, agree that the government should be working for the people and should be made up of the people and it should be done by the people for the benefit of the people. To that end most people agree that lobbyists should not exist and have ruined a great many things. Most people agree on a sensible immigration policy and most people agree that directing our national resources toward scientific truths is worthwhile and a public service. And then throw in partisan politics and at all gets checked out the window and we just start fighting over who thinks Donald Trump is a sociopath and that sort of stuff
I'm impressed. You guys seem to have the ability to agree to disagree. You all have practice at listening, amazing. You all have a healthy sense of humor, wow. Seriously, this is a channel worth it's weight in gold. I love listening to this channel because I hear points of view that is seriously hard to find in mainstream media. It matters less to me that you may be right or wrong, but your views help me to look at current affairs from a different paradigms. Keep it up, if aliens discover this planet and are looking for intelligent life, you guys give me hope that they could actually find evidence of it :)
The right-wing extremist wants to give you the impression that these "Socialists" were defeated but You're gonna be very surprised the Squad is actually growing. ignore them and dehumanize them at your own peril, If you don't understand their plight and work with them.
It boggles my mind how greedy they are... they literally have enough money for 10 lifetimes yet they fear the idea of tax raises to help pay for healthcare for people in need or hate the idea of increasing the minimum wage because they won't make as much money
The problem with this show is that it is so fucking good that people that found it sort feel selfish about keeping it to themselves and not share it with others...lol.
Please talk about how Mark Zuckerberg (CEO of a publicly traded company, I might add) donated $350 Mn to judges ruling over the vote counting in notoriety Democrat districts (especially swing states). Did you guys bring that up in your 1 hour and 18 minute pod?
42:13 - yes. The issues we are all discussing are more complex than one party versus one other party. There are many ways to solve many of the problems we are discussing and simply because a person is Republican does not mean that they could, should come or do subscribe to the way the republican party deems it necessary to solve that particular problem. That begs the question, why is it so difficult to form a new political party and why do we basically have a two-party system? In many other countries if a certain party gets, for example, 15% of the vote, they get 15% representation in Parliament. If another party gets 25% of the vote then that particular party gets 25% representation in Parliament. None of this winner take all bologna. All that creates is half of the population being extremely upset and easily offended all of the time. It leads to a gridlock and nothing productive while the lobbyists for the large corporations pillage our government and right our laws in their favor. And we're left to choose between two parties whose primary goal is to obfuscate and confuse people with partisan politics while the wealth just gets transferred away from the people.
I need the fed to keep pumping 400-500% yearly gains for public stonks is a life saver. Finally to slap around these big wheels. Lots of rags to riches stories with my friends.
Not sure Calacanis understands the differences between Socialism and Democratic Socialism. They’re completely different political ideologies. Intellectualism and nuance is being thrown aside these days. Sad
Feels like I'm watching Fox News.. they just unfairly attack the left. Every single democrat "aka radical socialist" fighting for Medicare for all won their election yet they act like the people don't want real change
Who is going to create the Bestie App to rival Clubhouse - 4 intelligent best friends video group calls with weekly topical agenda... and you bet your net worth on topical events like who will become President 😂
This podcast in short : These guys want to seem smart when they are just repeating commonalities of thought in the US which are themselves pushed by the media narratives. Ex. : Healthcare for all is only "radical left" in the US because is displeases the insurances monopolies who makes billions on peoples suffering. In the rest of the Western world its an accepted minimum for a modern functioning society which all political sides agree on. America is so far to the right, that trickle down economics is still considered a good idea even when the reality is from birth to your grave its an indebted servitude economy.
Yea that's what I'm realizing. I really enjoy their discussion but whenever they talk about Medicare for all or raising the minimum wage or any other leftist policy they devolve into insults and calling the left "radicals". This podcast is nothing more than just a gateway into Fox News ideology
Of course you guys don't think there was any content to the last four years' hulabaloo, of course it was all just a bunch of annoying noise to you: you guys are educated, privileged, sheltered, global elite billionaires! You guys' jobs aren't being taken by illegal aliens and Chinese, your families aren't dying in Mesopotamia and of fentanyl (although Friedburg and Jason seem to indulge in a bit of hedonistic bourgeois drugism), your not being laid off from GM to queue up for a contractor job at Purdue. Half of you guys' employees are foreigners (that you're sponsoring for their visas) and the other half were just naturalized last year. You guys live in gated communities, have at least one house in Europe. Your kids go to private schools and summer abroad and are all bilingual. All your cars are foreign (except your teslas). You live in a globalist corporatist techocrat bubble!
it's so weird to see 4 intelligent people with diverse opinions talk about hot button issues without using propaganda and left wing/right wing talking points. so refreshing. please keep doing this guys
Nailed it man! one of the best podcasts I have ever seen.
They did in the start man. Radical left??? Sosial democracy is by their definition radical left...oh boy...Scandinavia is radical the most phosphorus country's...This guys are radical right without knowing that...🤑🤯
@@bjrnerlingchristophersen1148 it's crazy man. I only started watching this because of Chamath and I've watched the first 8 episodes and it's amazing to me how they talk about the "radical left" and how it's such a fluid boogeyman for them. Sometimes the radical left is "social democrats like Bernie Aoc" other times the radical left are the centrist dems...lmfao. Just whatever it needs to be when they are criticizing the left. I guess everyone's serving their class interests at the end of the day 🤷♂️
Best podcast and RUclips series I have seen in a long time. How does this channel not have 100k subs yet?!
tell a friend to tell a friend :)
No keep this for us. The less people that know about it the better. I don’t want the world knowing all the information.
@@kingzion3032 the world will be a better place if more people listen to their discussions.
@@sasmills no, it would just be a more competitive world.
Because they are out of touch with American reality when 90 million don't have healthcare in practice and they live on starvation salaris....
I really respect these speakers and I really like how you present your topics and address them both raw and from a very intelligent angle.
Expect when they talk about leftist policys... then this podcast just devolves into Fox News as they relentlessly bash it and pretend no one supports it even though every single democrat that fought for Medicare for all WON their election while every other democrat who did not lost. Same for the green new deal. Oh corse they didn't mention it in the podcast
Under 10k views. I feel like I’m in a secret billionaire club watching these lol
It's exclusive. Love it!
The argument that we need more centrist politics and customized politicians is the reason we need ranked choice voting and more parties.
Exactly! Im surprised no one mentioned Ranked Choice Voting
Friedberg's puppy 🤩
This is the discussion we need now. Appreciate the differing points of view and honest debate on the issues.
Love the besties’ discussion as always! And 14:12 Friedberg’s puppy 😻 !!
This is such an enjoyable chat. Intelligent mature discussions, respectful attitudes and no one needing to dominate or stroke their own ego. Thanks guys.
ALL IN CLIPS... Make it happen, s'il vous plaît 🙏🏻.
I discovered JRE through clips. Which enticed me to go watch his whole thing.
"I cannot introduce you to chamath to SPAC your company" 😂
This podcast is golden, guys. You are a delight. Thank you!
You guys are great! We need weekly podcasts!
About time guys! Been waiting for this sequel for days. Awesome 👏👍
hands down best content i've watched for a while
The GOP is in the Supreme Court, right now, arguing to remove healthcare from 20 million people, in the middle of a global pandemic. That's insane.
The biggest problem in American politics currently is the two-party system.
Great podcast. You have to start making shorter clips of the more interesting moments so people who do not clik on a one-hour video start kwowing you.
You are a positive force and the more people get to listen to your podcast the better for your society.
Have a great day, guys!
Joe Rogan type clips I agree would blow this channel up but would also cut off the best bit about this podcast the long form discussion. If the clips were like 7/10 mins long about a certain topic could work but should be uploaded to a seperate channel I reckon
This is brilliant and should be a template for the politicians.
Friedberg is on fire this episode
Even me from Brazil I like so much this podcadt. So far the best one. 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷
Pretty eye-opening to see what things did happen and what things didn't happen a year later
I really hope this podcast keeps on going
What these guys say is what my brain was just about to figure out about the different topics. So it feels like they complete my thoughts. Thx
@41:47 - @42:30 is so on point. It's never should be a left & right issue. It should be whoever they are discussing real issues and come up with solutions :)
Love that you guys do this. Thank you!
This is the best, love you guys!
I love this podcast, as always, SO refreshing. Care to talk about your source of information? What do you guys read everyday?
Great podcast however got to disagree with the point being up of San Francisco's bad fiscal management. The public employees get paid 6 figures because that's the only realistic way to cover their living expenses after the start-ups there have increased the rents and use tax loop holes to avoid paying tax. It isn't 100% on the local government there. Rampant homelessness there is just the price they're paying for SF's fame just like LA. If I was homeless I'd move to California.
The only solution is Musk's boring tunnels that connect the wider bay to SF to lower living expenses.
For reference: socialism is wildly different from state capitalism. Much of what the political right calls socialism is more accurately describes as state capitalism. Using the word "socialism" to describe how the idea of healthcare for every citizen, that costs less and has the same outcomes, is disingenuous at best. Where anyone can go to any doctor. That increases freedom of choice, not decreases it. Compare that to what we have now, hundreds of companies with thousands of plans and the goal of each and every one of them is to rip off their customers. They tell which procedures are covered, and which are not, which doctor you can see and which one you can not see. C'mon. It's right there in front of all of us. Call a spade a spade. For example, if you don't like your doctor, and want a new one, but that doctor is the only one in-network in that part of town, then what is one to do? The point here is not that it is impossible to solve this dilemma, but that it takes work and therefore discourages people from doing it. Whereas if anyone could go to any doctor simply because they wanted to, that would be an easier system to work within. Don't tell me we have "freedom" now, because that's an illusion of Big Media.
And what you're touting is not freedom either.
Come on all media -Bloomberg does great job -So does PBS- The NYT and WSJ does do a reasonable job of offering both an accurate reporting. Reporting accurate news with no slight at this most polarizing time, has been extremely difficult.
"Al Gore didn't concede for 37 days..." I'm sorry, that's a specious argument. There is a big difference between Al Gore contesting a 500 vote margin in Florida and Trump systematically trying to undermine the election results across the board.
There is always UPI.. it’s dry like cardboard but stays damn close to center (or non-aligned might be more accurate).
I help to run an enterprise fund that takes no taxpayer money. Anyway, it is absolutely scary how spectacularly badly elected officials run public budgets. Spectacularly bad. No risk management, no nothing. 3%-4% revenue growth assumptions into perpetuity. Based on what!?
Brilliant discussion.
Really good discussion. Great job 👏
Very good balanced commentary. Thanks!
Lol is this a joke?? They constantly bash the left for wanting a higher minimum wage and cheaper healthcare and act like we're "radicals" for it. Keep in mind companies make life dependent medicine for like $2 and then sell it for $150. Also the minimum wage hasn't increased in like 2 decades while inflation has consistently went up year after year over the same time
great podcast, thanks guys!
Nice Thank you for uploading an ep so soon :D :D
Worth of listening... 👍
Can’t see why people pay for Netflix when you can just turn on the news for entertainment this year
Friedberg´s Trump dark hardcore techno 4-year rave analogy is one for the books
Many of the people in the two opposing major political parties vote the way they did for the same reason. It's amazing how much we all have in common. The overwhelming majority of people, I think, agree that the government should be working for the people and should be made up of the people and it should be done by the people for the benefit of the people. To that end most people agree that lobbyists should not exist and have ruined a great many things. Most people agree on a sensible immigration policy and most people agree that directing our national resources toward scientific truths is worthwhile and a public service. And then throw in partisan politics and at all gets checked out the window and we just start fighting over who thinks Donald Trump is a sociopath and that sort of stuff
I'm impressed. You guys seem to have the ability to agree to disagree. You all have practice at listening, amazing. You all have a healthy sense of humor, wow. Seriously, this is a channel worth it's weight in gold. I love listening to this channel because I hear points of view that is seriously hard to find in mainstream media. It matters less to me that you may be right or wrong, but your views help me to look at current affairs from a different paradigms. Keep it up, if aliens discover this planet and are looking for intelligent life, you guys give me hope that they could actually find evidence of it :)
So happy to have a new spin on EVERYTHING whew at 55 I'm exhausted with Bloomberg cnbc etc . Out with the old in with new
Al Gore won the popular vote and every recount done by anyone had Al Gore winning.
Brilliant as usual. Will be waiting for my invite!
10:00 🤣 priceless, and exactly!
Jim Calacanis in this podcast reminds me of Saul Goodman character from Better call Saul!
The right-wing extremist wants to give you the impression that these "Socialists" were defeated but You're gonna be very surprised the Squad is actually growing. ignore them and dehumanize them at your own peril, If you don't understand their plight and work with them.
It boggles my mind how greedy they are... they literally have enough money for 10 lifetimes yet they fear the idea of tax raises to help pay for healthcare for people in need or hate the idea of increasing the minimum wage because they won't make as much money
The problem with this show is that it is so fucking good that people that found it sort feel selfish about keeping it to themselves and not share it with others...lol.
Please talk about how Mark Zuckerberg (CEO of a publicly traded company, I might add) donated $350 Mn to judges ruling over the vote counting in notoriety Democrat districts (especially swing states). Did you guys bring that up in your 1 hour and 18 minute pod?
Y’all wanna talk about moderates winning while ignoring the fact that Medicare for all is favoured across the country and $15 min wage won in Florida.
Sack is the man.
42:13 - yes. The issues we are all discussing are more complex than one party versus one other party. There are many ways to solve many of the problems we are discussing and simply because a person is Republican does not mean that they could, should come or do subscribe to the way the republican party deems it necessary to solve that particular problem. That begs the question, why is it so difficult to form a new political party and why do we basically have a two-party system? In many other countries if a certain party gets, for example, 15% of the vote, they get 15% representation in Parliament. If another party gets 25% of the vote then that particular party gets 25% representation in Parliament. None of this winner take all bologna. All that creates is half of the population being extremely upset and easily offended all of the time. It leads to a gridlock and nothing productive while the lobbyists for the large corporations pillage our government and right our laws in their favor. And we're left to choose between two parties whose primary goal is to obfuscate and confuse people with partisan politics while the wealth just gets transferred away from the people.
@3:41 - @3:45 is hilarious :D
The Saganaki is on me!!!
Lol all besties, no guesties. So good. Need some "all in" vesties.
Can you continue this conversation with Andrew Yang?
That would take this discussion to the next level
BEST POD EVER
CHURCH OF CHAMATH; FRIEDBERGS DELI; SACKS'S LIFE MATTERS; JASON (BOURNE)
learn about ranked choice voting. it would answer your questions about what is wrong with the two party system and why Georgia has a 50% runoff
What would be good for the public markets - if the senate goes Blue VS Red?
Awesome
I need the fed to keep pumping 400-500% yearly gains for public stonks is a life saver. Finally to slap around these big wheels. Lots of rags to riches stories with my friends.
What was socialist about Biden?
I agree Chamath. I thought I was left-wing liberal for a long time but now realize that I am a closet centrist.
Chamaths internalized racism towards white people comes out quite often in these earlier pods........
Hi Guys you guys did not have an angle on disinformation. Could you please include that in your next podcast?
Can one of you guys run for president next term? I understand it’s a sacrifice but America needs you
Didn't news of the vaccine come out after the election? Or at least after everyone voted.
Doesn't trump represent identity politics with comments on African counties, Muslim ban, immigration restrictions based on identity etc?
No. The commie dems do.
what do you guys think about palantir?
Not sure Calacanis understands the differences between Socialism and Democratic Socialism. They’re completely different political ideologies. Intellectualism and nuance is being thrown aside these days. Sad
Feels like I'm watching Fox News.. they just unfairly attack the left. Every single democrat "aka radical socialist" fighting for Medicare for all won their election yet they act like the people don't want real change
fuck yea!!!!
why do still vote using paper?!
Fucking love this 🤣
Get Keith rabois on here. He’s gonna help sacks out
Chamath should have an extra 30 minutes by himself at the end to recap what will actually happen
ad slots finally opened! now i just need to start a business and 10M cash
Jason has really came into his own the last while. I think he's right about Trump.
6% of eventual profit on selling the house is it not? Fully normal abroad.
That's ontop of the tax you already pay when you sell.
I’m here!
Dido shop and a crematorium...hahaha no other podcast comes close!
15 people are mad at their life
Puppy !
Nice ☝️
Russia Russia Russia.... oh.... China (vaccine announced)
Your comparing corrupt emails to medicine? Please stop doing this it’s not for you
What will the new covid be?
No guests!!!!
Who is going to create the Bestie App to rival Clubhouse - 4 intelligent best friends video group calls with weekly topical agenda... and you bet your net worth on topical events like who will become President 😂
awesome podcast, love it, please stop using the term "besties"
Voter rejected moderate Dems not progressive policy....david doesn't know what he's talking about
This podcast in short : These guys want to seem smart when they are just repeating commonalities of thought in the US which are themselves pushed by the media narratives.
Ex. : Healthcare for all is only "radical left" in the US because is displeases the insurances monopolies who makes billions on peoples suffering. In the rest of the Western world its an accepted minimum for a modern functioning society which all political sides agree on.
America is so far to the right, that trickle down economics is still considered a good idea even when the reality is from birth to your grave its an indebted servitude economy.
Yea that's what I'm realizing. I really enjoy their discussion but whenever they talk about Medicare for all or raising the minimum wage or any other leftist policy they devolve into insults and calling the left "radicals". This podcast is nothing more than just a gateway into Fox News ideology
Biden didn't win yet. I still think trump still going to be next president. let's revisit this comment by 1/20/2021.
Agreed.
Of course you guys don't think there was any content to the last four years' hulabaloo, of course it was all just a bunch of annoying noise to you: you guys are educated, privileged, sheltered, global elite billionaires! You guys' jobs aren't being taken by illegal aliens and Chinese, your families aren't dying in Mesopotamia and of fentanyl (although Friedburg and Jason seem to indulge in a bit of hedonistic bourgeois drugism), your not being laid off from GM to queue up for a contractor job at Purdue.
Half of you guys' employees are foreigners (that you're sponsoring for their visas) and the other half were just naturalized last year. You guys live in gated communities, have at least one house in Europe. Your kids go to private schools and summer abroad and are all bilingual. All your cars are foreign (except your teslas). You live in a globalist corporatist techocrat bubble!
RIP in SF.