Spot on. When I had a disruptive pupil and chatted with my colleagues and found many times we all had problems with the same pupil - yet when we went to senior management they always turned the tables to suggest that you were doing the job badly. What are you doing wrong? - was their attitude. The pupils who learnt and cooperated with you - (the vast proportion) were ignored and the focus was on your faults and failings. The fact that a group of teachers had similar problems with the same pupil was ignored. With such senior management’s abrogation of responsibility - I’m sure drives many teachers out - especially beginners.
Surely these are the same people that say Our borders should be wide open and Wind about Brexit so let’s give them double the amount of pupils next year triple the next and so in .. this is their belief after all ?
I'm so excited to say I've accepted a job in a different industry. People tell me about the workload and intensity of corporate roles but honestly, I think it will be childs play compared to the garbage extra shit I had to do as a teacher. For the years i was a teacher, every year I was told that it gets easier as you progress....total garbage. Happily tutoring now on the side and teaching the subject I love, while preparing for my new role.
@@adeelali8417 Bro do it. Its only gonna get worse. I did supply teaching in between jobs and that too is 10x better. Only issue is lack of progression + work.
I agree, there has to be order in the classrooms. People who criticise teachers for expecting this are showing their own ignorance. Too many people criticising teachers nowadays. They have no idea of the expectations of the job. Not many adults could do that job well.
Progressive methods that are imposed on teachers every week. It is the lack of efficiency, and poor management in schools. Behaviour and attitude is one thing, particularly when the teacher is made responsible for everything! and this responsibility is not distributed fairly. Parents have a role, SLT have a role, students themselves have a role. Love Katharine Birbalsingh, perhaps given the time she would have been able to elaborate and show greater insight into the often unnecessary and immense burdens that teachers have. Not surprised many are leaving!
They brought in too much bureaucracy and many decent teachers quit so then they needed to introduce even more bureaucracy to monitor the incompetent ones.
No mention of the tyranny of Ofsted. A good friend who is a teacher tells me her job is not teaching, but pleasing Ofsted. She's basically not allowed to use any discipline. And if the school suspends a pupil they run the risk of getting their rating downgraded.
"Back in the day" (sorry to use that expression) get in trouble at school, you were in trouble at home...now get in trouble at school, incur the wrath of the parent. Also, pupils, and all sorts of left gwing individuals love to shout about their rights..."I know my rights"...yes, it is your right BUT with that right comes responsibility and that is where your failing, it is a 2 way thing.
she has some good points here, but is very dismissive of the paperwork. which I think I spend at least 3 or 4 hours a week on, and which is nothing to do with my job other than to prepare for inspectors and because head teachers demand it. At the same time living costs go up, my real term wages are awful. My friends, both with and without as much education as me, all earn at least 10 grand on my wages. Many work 10 till 4 at home, and can work remotely as often as they choose. I work 7 30 to 6 and sometimes later than that, sometimes behaviour, sometimes to plan lessons, or paperwork or reports to parents. I have worked in public and in private sectors, the pay is equally bad, behaviour is bad and the workload is never improved. During Covid I worked regular 12 hour days 6 days a week during the second lockdown to meet expectations and help children transition to online learning. I spend hours marking for the sake of inspections and never for the sake of the children, and the feedback from parents is rarely positive. It is no wonder so many leave!
Disagree, in the past paperwork was the major issue....Workload is currently a distant second to appalling pupil behaviour in terms of issues in this job.
Not one teacher understood me including my mother . I see flaws in teacher training. They think they are caring and understanding.i was a normal child but had the well sibling syndrome snd that was the main problem. I had too much to think about I couldn't concentrate on learning. Schools and mother failed me. I tried to educate myself as an adult. I don't think much of teachers for their social worl side and I think they are are ignorant. I think a social worker should be employed in each school and a trained counsellor so that teachers can get on with teaching. Even social workers can miss the well sibling syndrome and child carers and in fact moth professionals including doctors.
Although there are many issues which annoy teachers the central driving force which has undermined the quality of education is the forced over-schooling of children who are no longer forced to pass exams in order to get promoted leading directly to massive numbers of unqualified kids in the higher or secondary grade levels throughout the entire English speaking world. There are currently probably at least twice as many students in the upper forms or grades which deal with adolescents which has raised unrealistic expectations of teachers to unprecedented levels. Such students were traditionally failed out of the schools to enter the work force as either laborers or trades apprentices, a practice which should really be re-adopted since there is little evidence that the lower half of the population intellectually benefits from so much schooling as evidenced by the reading levels of adults with double digit IQs remaining stalled at sixth grade level or whatever form level is typical of 12 year olds in Britain. And such underqualified students tend to be poorly behaved constituting an intolerable stressor for school teachers.
Strict behaviour discipline is the only solution, I really don't understand how it ill discipline has taken over, and with how system works, only got promoted more. I spent 2 years in profession, and just quit. Will never go back!
Now, with this crisis, cost of living, we will have hungry students unable to learn. You can not teach to students with an empty stomach. I lived this in my home country in 2001. Students fainting coz they had nothing for days.
Well now .....In the first welcome speech by my principal at teachers training college ,Miss Wingate stated that there was never to be Indoctrination of any kind . Our business was to Open minds, (critique even what was read ) . The unscientific woke , much ,inapropriate introduction of sexual issues for small children and the general social parental turmoil , would have no doubt had her on the side of the Christian relentless prophetic Mary Woodhouse Some nonsence can be lain at the feet of ill educated so called teachers whose training does not include DO NOT INDICTRINATE ,but much at burocratic note taking . Fears, at the demands of the Islamic culture is scary . Cutting off a teachers head for discussing Mohammed ,might illumine your life .Not being allowed to discuss important topics from the shutting down of free speech brigade . Children with little or no English from the swamping of immigration. Children damaged by horrible home life where stability and moral and social skills do not exist . Take the issues and DO SOMETHING GOVERNMENT .TEACHERS should Not have to be Sovial Workers ,teach the indigenous language before writing and reading skills .They should Not be in fear of their lives . EVERYONE WITH A PINCH OF INTELLECT KNOWS WHAT TO DO .GET A BACKBONE AND LEAD GOVERNMENT . GET THE TOUGH STUFF DONE .
Knowing teachers, it's more likely they've grown used to the relaxation of standards and expectations during the pandemic, and are struggling to adapt to the culture shock of returning to the pressure and pace of normal life. Many of us have had to deal with this change. Some of us have welcomed it, others not so much. It's about being an adult and getting on with it.
@@craighart9278 Because people like that are pure narcissists. They only care about themselves. Ie she was using the victimhood narrative in that interview.
@@andyforshaw8489 I believe that your message may have been deleted. You said - "Because people like that are pure narcissists. They only care about themselves. I.e she was using the victimhood narrative in that interview" I didn't hear that. She was explaining why some Teachers may struggle and get disheartened. She was not talking about her School. She was explaining why discipline is so important and why its important to create the right environment and work at it. I've watched a few long form interviews with Katharine Birbasingh. She sets high standards and believes in discipline. She is so positive and certainly does not promote a 'victimhood' narrative in her School. Far from it. Its all about opinions though and whilst you may walk away there will be long queue to get into her School. The results speak for themselves.
Really? So a teacher in the UK I am currently striking. Why? Not for pay. I am striking cause I am also a parent of 5 and my kids education is being utterly shafted by this god awful far right govt of morons that we have in the UK.....
Happening here too. 🇦🇺🦘🦘 Too much bureaucracy - people who have not taught or haven’t taught for a long time. Yes, it’s about workload, behaviour management, poor support, unrealistic expectations….etc.
I love that she shares the truth. Behaviour is out of control!! The expectations put on teachers is insane. 😮
Spot on. When I had a disruptive pupil and chatted with my colleagues and found many times we all had problems with the same pupil - yet when we went to senior management they always turned the tables to suggest that you were doing the job badly. What are you doing wrong? - was their attitude. The pupils who learnt and cooperated with you - (the vast proportion) were ignored and the focus was on your faults and failings. The fact that a group of teachers had similar problems with the same pupil was ignored. With such senior management’s abrogation of responsibility - I’m sure drives many teachers out - especially beginners.
Surely these are the same people that say Our borders should be wide open and Wind about Brexit so let’s give them double the amount of pupils next year triple the next and so in .. this is their belief after all ?
Let me guess, if ONLY you could form better relationships with this child everything would be juuuuuuust fine. 🤣🤣🤣
@@BobMonty99how can you link it to Brexit, you lush?
sign of a toxic school then. i hope you got out and left.
Absolute joke of a job. I am now an engineer earning double with half the stress
I don’t blame you . Not worth the stress
Can I ask you how you got into that from teaching? Admin sucks in schools more so than not and drives people out.
I'm so excited to say I've accepted a job in a different industry. People tell me about the workload and intensity of corporate roles but honestly, I think it will be childs play compared to the garbage extra shit I had to do as a teacher. For the years i was a teacher, every year I was told that it gets easier as you progress....total garbage. Happily tutoring now on the side and teaching the subject I love, while preparing for my new role.
@@adeelali8417 Bro do it. Its only gonna get worse. I did supply teaching in between jobs and that too is 10x better. Only issue is lack of progression + work.
@@adeelali8417 i did my PGCE in maths too. My advice? Take the bursary and bounce…especially if you are young and are capable of starting over
Yes!!!! She is awesome! I wish we had someone like her in the US.
Absolutely brilliant headteacher who understands her role clearly, in supporting teachers and having high expectations
Kids and parents have too much power . They think it’s a master and slave relationship.
I agree, there has to be order in the classrooms. People who criticise teachers for expecting this are showing their own ignorance. Too many people criticising teachers nowadays. They have no idea of the expectations of the job. Not many adults could do that job well.
Plus kids are feral these days and the schools are regulated by karens who frown on discipline.
Progressive methods that are imposed on teachers every week. It is the lack of efficiency, and poor management in schools. Behaviour and attitude is one thing, particularly when the teacher is made responsible for everything! and this responsibility is not distributed fairly. Parents have a role, SLT have a role, students themselves have a role. Love Katharine Birbalsingh, perhaps given the time she would have been able to elaborate and show greater insight into the often unnecessary and immense burdens that teachers have. Not surprised many are leaving!
Is she the only headteacher who really understands what teachers need in order to do their job?
They brought in too much bureaucracy and many decent teachers quit so then they needed to introduce even more bureaucracy to monitor the incompetent ones.
My local college is full of shit maths teachers.
Behaviour in school is getting worse .
No mention of the tyranny of Ofsted. A good friend who is a teacher tells me her job is not teaching, but pleasing Ofsted. She's basically not allowed to use any discipline. And if the school suspends a pupil they run the risk of getting their rating downgraded.
What about the abysmal pay!!!! Single teachers having to room together because their salary does not allow them to find a single place.
"Back in the day" (sorry to use that expression) get in trouble at school, you were in trouble at home...now get in trouble at school, incur the wrath of the parent. Also, pupils, and all sorts of left gwing individuals love to shout about their rights..."I know my rights"...yes, it is your right BUT with that right comes responsibility and that is where your failing, it is a 2 way thing.
Behaviour is out of control, I won't teach in the UK anymore because of it... maybe at her school.
If you're thinking of teaching...Don't!
she has some good points here, but is very dismissive of the paperwork. which I think I spend at least 3 or 4 hours a week on, and which is nothing to do with my job other than to prepare for inspectors and because head teachers demand it.
At the same time living costs go up, my real term wages are awful. My friends, both with and without as much education as me, all earn at least 10 grand on my wages. Many work 10 till 4 at home, and can work remotely as often as they choose.
I work 7 30 to 6 and sometimes later than that, sometimes behaviour, sometimes to plan lessons, or paperwork or reports to parents.
I have worked in public and in private sectors, the pay is equally bad, behaviour is bad and the workload is never improved.
During Covid I worked regular 12 hour days 6 days a week during the second lockdown to meet expectations and help children transition to online learning. I spend hours marking for the sake of inspections and never for the sake of the children, and the feedback from parents is rarely positive.
It is no wonder so many leave!
Disagree, in the past paperwork was the major issue....Workload is currently a distant second to appalling pupil behaviour in terms of issues in this job.
Well done for her for sticking to her guns and not letting herself be led down the ideological alleyway of these interviewers.
I hope that all these teachers leaving will see the bursary for English reintroduced.
Too much paperwork in every organisations especially these days in places like Schools and Colleges.
Not one teacher understood me including my mother . I see flaws in teacher training. They think they are caring and understanding.i was a normal child but had the well sibling syndrome snd that was the main problem. I had too much to think about I couldn't concentrate on learning. Schools and mother failed me. I tried to educate myself as an adult. I don't think much of teachers for their social worl side and I think they are are ignorant. I think a social worker should be employed in each school and a trained counsellor so that teachers can get on with teaching. Even social workers can miss the well sibling syndrome and child carers and in fact moth professionals including doctors.
Although there are many issues which annoy teachers the central driving force which has undermined the quality of education is the forced over-schooling of children who are no longer forced to pass exams in order to get promoted leading directly to massive numbers of unqualified kids in the higher or secondary grade levels throughout the entire English speaking world. There are currently probably at least twice as many students in the upper forms or grades which deal with adolescents which has raised unrealistic expectations of teachers to unprecedented levels.
Such students were traditionally failed out of the schools to enter the work force as either laborers or trades apprentices, a practice which should really be re-adopted since there is little evidence that the lower half of the population intellectually benefits from so much schooling as evidenced by the reading levels of adults with double digit IQs remaining stalled at sixth grade level or whatever form level is typical of 12 year olds in Britain. And such underqualified students tend to be poorly behaved constituting an intolerable stressor for school teachers.
Strict behaviour discipline is the only solution, I really don't understand how it ill discipline has taken over, and with how system works, only got promoted more. I spent 2 years in profession, and just quit. Will never go back!
Only if she could see into the future she would have seen she's got bigger problems with Islamic fait in her well organised School
Dont ever be a teacher....you are asking for accusations
Stop the bureaucracy. Unions stay out of the classrooms.
Now, with this crisis, cost of living, we will have hungry students unable to learn. You can not teach to students with an empty stomach. I lived this in my home country in 2001. Students fainting coz they had nothing for days.
Isn't that the reason we have free school meals?
@@alien4422 Yes. lunch time, and the rest of the day?
Buh-bye!!
Well now .....In the first welcome speech by my principal at teachers training college ,Miss Wingate stated that there was never to be Indoctrination of any kind . Our business was to Open minds, (critique even what was read ) . The unscientific woke , much ,inapropriate introduction of sexual issues for small children and the general social parental turmoil , would have no doubt had her on the side of the Christian relentless prophetic Mary Woodhouse Some nonsence can be lain at the feet of ill educated so called teachers whose training does not include DO NOT INDICTRINATE ,but much at burocratic
note taking . Fears, at the demands of the Islamic culture is scary . Cutting off a teachers head for discussing Mohammed ,might illumine your life .Not being allowed to discuss important topics from the shutting down of free speech brigade . Children with little or no English from the swamping of immigration. Children damaged by horrible home life where stability and moral and social skills do not exist . Take the issues and DO SOMETHING GOVERNMENT .TEACHERS should Not have to be Sovial Workers ,teach the indigenous language before writing and reading skills .They should Not be in fear of their lives . EVERYONE WITH A PINCH OF INTELLECT KNOWS WHAT TO DO .GET A BACKBONE AND LEAD GOVERNMENT . GET THE TOUGH STUFF DONE .
Will all be lefties left ...what they want
Can they afford it...🤣🤣..most still paying their student fees off...
Knowing teachers, it's more likely they've grown used to the relaxation of standards and expectations during the pandemic, and are struggling to adapt to the culture shock of returning to the pressure and pace of normal life. Many of us have had to deal with this change. Some of us have welcomed it, others not so much. It's about being an adult and getting on with it.
"Knowing teachers"... are you sure you actually know any? Your comment suggests you might not.
@@PerryVenator16 Yes I know a few very well. They also have a deserved reputation for these kind of attitudes.
@@JC-zh4lh fair enough... I would describe the ones I know (also very well) as the complete opposite.
LOL 😂😂😂
@@bryngilwern5766 I just came across your channel. Hope you doing well now.
I would take one look at that headmistress and turn around and home school my kids.
Why?
Then you know nothing about the Michaela Academy
It is outstanding
@@royjacobs1204 Agreed, we need more teachers like her.
@@craighart9278 Because people like that are pure narcissists. They only care about themselves. Ie she was using the victimhood narrative in that interview.
@@andyforshaw8489 I believe that your message may have been deleted. You said - "Because people like that are pure narcissists. They only care about themselves. I.e she was using the victimhood narrative in that interview"
I didn't hear that. She was explaining why some Teachers may struggle and get disheartened. She was not talking about her School. She was explaining why discipline is so important and why its important to create the right environment and work at it. I've watched a few long form interviews with Katharine Birbasingh. She sets high standards and believes in discipline. She is so positive and certainly does not promote a 'victimhood' narrative in her School. Far from it. Its all about opinions though and whilst you may walk away there will be long queue to get into her School. The results speak for themselves.
Unions are not on the coal face. They become their own self-justifying entities. Unimpressed with the teaching unions here.🇦🇺🦘👍
Really? So a teacher in the UK I am currently striking. Why? Not for pay. I am striking cause I am also a parent of 5 and my kids education is being utterly shafted by this god awful far right govt of morons that we have in the UK.....
To give you an example since 2010 the average class size has increased from 24 to well over 30. What could possibly go wrong.
Happening here too. 🇦🇺🦘🦘
Too much bureaucracy - people who have not taught or haven’t taught for a long time.
Yes, it’s about workload, behaviour management, poor support, unrealistic expectations….etc.