It's worth mentioning that you keep the premium deluxe and your purchased airplanes. You'll only miss out on the newly added ones. For example there is no need to purchase the premium deluxe edition of 2024 to get the 787 if you already own premium deluxe of 2020.
@@Daveodaddeo101 I don't think they are porting over the 2020 version, there will just be the 2024 version and everyone who had the 2020 version gets the new one. It would make no sense what so ever to keep people stuck on an old aircraft with no further development.
Very interesting, thank you for the info. I'll be going for Premium Deluxe still for the Saab and the 747s, but they already knew that anyway I'm sure!
@@320SimPilot I'm middle aged and just starting my flight training. Private pilot only. VFR initially, IFR depending on how that goes. Something I've wanted to do since I was a teen, but never had the time or money. Do you feel this is adequate for flight training? Are the lower editions accurate for flight training? What is a good budget controller set. I don't need a 5 grand over the top set, just a good set of basics. Thank you very much. I will listen to your entire presentation, it may be that you answered most of my questions already. If so, I apologize. Just excited. Had a windfall investment which makes all of this possible so I am excited.
@@320SimPilot We NEED YOU to help us with our TCA Thrustmaster Officer Pack and MSFS 2024 bindings - there are so many of us on the MSFS forums begging for your expertise on how to get our peripherals to work - no one can figure it out.
Hiring Working Title was the best thing Microsoft did for the sim, hands down. The improvements they've made to default aircraft are just incredible. They turned the unflyable 787 and 747 into something I can just hop in and fly. Not to mention the various Garmins.
The CJ4 basically saved the sim for me in the early days. The clever thing about Microsoft, is they quickly recognise this talent and throw cash at them - inibuilds being another example.
MSFS 2020 is the best thing to ever happen to flight sim. Before it all we had were small P3D and X-Plane communities and this blew it wide open to more casual gamers. Say what you want but that’s what we needed. Look at the amount of developers and addons created. Addons from FSX updated for the first time in over 10 years. There was some definite money grabs from some but the interest from the general community this game had is something to behold on what I believe was a really small niche community up until MSFS 2020. It being on Xbox is a massive help, I thought it would be the sims biggest problem as PC simmer as they tried to make it compatible for both, but in truth, it’s made the sim much more popular and brought people into our hobby and community that may never have had the chance, and fair play to Asobo this game has been well developed. It may have little issues here and there but it wasn’t so long ago where a lot of us were relying on 32 bit FSX/P3D (pre v4) worrying if we were going to use more than 4gb of RAM! I was surprised and a little sceptical when MSFS2020 was announced, but my god it brought a new lease of life into our hobby and community, and for that alone without even considering the other amazing things in the sim, it ranks at the top for me!
Can’t agree more. It allowed casual gamers like me who are into aviation to get a taste of flight sims, which along with many other things, did wonders for the MSFS brand and the flight aim community. Bringing to Xbox was a genius move as so many people don’t have access to PCs that can handle the game.
The reason the older 'premium deluxe' aircraft are still in the PD edition is because they carry over from 2020. So if you only purchase the 2024 standard edition have had the premium in 2020 you will still get those particular premium aircraft in 2024. The Aviators is just all of the 'Local Legends and Famous Flyers' in a big bundle, if you already have them from 2020 don't bother to get it in 2024 as they will carry over from 2020. Likewise with all of your Marketplace purchases. Also, the Longitude is awesome, very fun to fly.
Yip I agree with you, that is what Jorge said in the interview, if you previously owned the PD version for Fs2020 then the aircraft carry over to Fs2024 great news and very good of Microsoft.
@@alexdbnsaa...you're cheering too quick😅, not that easy, the 2020 airplanes are not the 2024 counterparts, so with the old ones you won't get the 2024 features along with, you will be able to update them, but it won't be free, this is also confirmed by them
...they are not the same planes though, the 2020 versions don't have the 2024 features, they confirmed they will release the option to upgrade to the 2024 counterparts, but it's a payment upgrade of course
Bravo! Everyone is looking so forward to the next 2024 sim that people forget how good the current sim is. It has been and is still brilliant. Thanks for addressing this.
The MSFS 2020 journey has been incredible, and I think you summed it up wonderfully. Our flight sim hobby has gone from strength to strength with the likes of yourself to guide us along the way. I’ve learned so much, which has in turn made my enjoyment of this hobby even greater. I don’t think that would have happened without MSFS 2020 and knowledgable content creators like yourself. Can’t thank you enough! Really looking forward to what ‘24 brings, although I’ll be flying 2020 for some time as well. What a journey it has been! 😊
I'm sure I'll be using MSFS 2020 as well, too many fantastic aircraft ready to go. But hopefully it won't take long to get 2024 up and running with them too. Thanks for being a part of the channel and journey here Ed, it's the communities enthusiasm that keeps me making videos and keeps the sims alive!
Really good summary of FS2020. We are truly living in a golden age of flight simulation. There seems to be a great balance for everyone and that is saying something when you consider the broad spectrum of people that play/use the sim. I love it.
All your purchases in marketplace transfer over. The Longitude alone draws me to PD, and I'm super excited about the PC24. The rest are amazing bonuses. Plus, let's not forget the value of the bespoke airports which come with it too, and for many that saves them from having to buy 3rd party.
I enjoy your content, you're always very well spoken. Some days I wonder if there really is anything that seriously annoys you! I will wait a few weeks for early updates and critical fixes and I'll just take the standard edition for now.
For aviator's edition, that is basically a colllection of all the Famous flyers, Local legends and Expert series (ATR) aircraft. You will keep every aircraft you've already bought from those even if you are not going for that edition in the new sim. I believe you only need to want 7 aircraft from that list to "justify" the price. so the upgrade would be worth the same as 7 of those individually. So it's very good value for money if you don't already own most of them and some of those interest you. I'm going for the aviator's edition but I think standard or premium deluxe will be the choice for many. Great video as always, looking forward to the future.
Brilliant video, as ever. Helped me to make my mind up and we are assured that we can upgrade at a later date. Thanks for taking the time to put all of this together.
The extra planes in the aviator edition are all the marketplace aircraft that were released as a Microsoft asobo thing, for example Flying Legends, Reno Air Race pack etc. It allows someone to buy that collection as a bundle.. If you owned them already then they get carried over to the new sim anyway. As before you can also purchase the planes separately too if you just want a couple but compared to buying them all separately it's a huge discount.
there is a replay function in 2020, it's just hidden in experimental it's in the 2024, i played the beta last month. In fact i think from what i remember the modder who made the replay addon is now doing it for 2024. the most noticable thing from the beta was it was only 9gb and the load times into flight where so much better than 2020
Appreciate your input as ever. The Longitude is one of my favourites since the avionics were sorted and plus the flight model mod that was available. It is essentially an airliner lite - pretty quick to get going but you still have the perf items to set up - for takeoff and landing - and has autothrottles. As mentioned above the avionics really good now. Also very fast so great for a round-the-world part 91 experience unless you copy cockpit casual guys! - have made it from Africa to Hong Kong so far via the US. No cabin but thoroughly recommend you give it another go!
I bought the Premium Deluxe version of 2020 but haven't really used any of the extra content to be honest. This time it will be the standard edition since I have game pass. However, a big difference now is that they have confirmed that we will be able to buy individual aircraft (I suspect airports also) from the more expensive packages so if there's any particular thing I want I can buy that.
So does that mean that the Saab 340B (for example) could be purchased standalone? I wonder how they'll price those. If the marketplace isn't ready on day one, then that's going to be a bit of an issue for some people who are on the fence with which edition to buy.
@@mdhazeldine that's true, but I recon it will be the same pricing model as in 2020 so as long as you just want one or two models I'm sure it will be less expensive than buying the whole package
You are able to fly all your purchased aircraft straight from launch even with the disabled marketplace. They will be in your library. The delay on the marketplace is to protect new buyers from potential bugs.
What a great video ! Exciting times ahead for sure ! We are so lucky ! Our hobby is amazing ! It will be the Premium Deluxe for me ! However I’m going to wait until Christmas 🎅🏻 before I get it ! I really hope FS2024 goes well on Tuesday ! Thank You so much for a great channel ! Happy Landings 👊🙏🏻❤️✈️👨✈️
This all looks great. Thank you. HOWEVER, i just feel like i will personally need to wait and be a late adopter - the absurd amt of time i spent with MSFS dead in the water over the first TWO YEARS directly resulting from updates, only to ultimately have to reinstall MSFS entirely due to a seemingly endless series of updates that would fail MSFS into an unrecoverable state. I hope i am wrong. But personal time is very tight and i simply need a high ratio of flt time to update/maintenance/reboot time. I am cautiously optimistic that MSFT will be WAY more hands on so as to release a robust/scalable MSFS. Anyway, hopefully everyone’s experience will prove my reluctance dead wrong. Godspeed, all !
2020 was impressive, but there were a ton of issues that made it annoying for me to load up and play. Frequent large updates, predownloading detailed landscape and buildings along your flight path, dealing with features that were a little broken like ATC and GPS systems, no career mode. 2024 looks like it fixed all these issues. So I cant wait.
I would be interested to know more which airports will be added to the different versions. mainly, I'm interested in whether they are qualitatively better than in the standard version
Flightsimming has come a long way since I started with FSX. For now I'll stay with 2020 until my go-to aircrafts like the PMDG 737, PMDG 777 and TFDi MD-11 work in 2024. Can't wait to fly the Saab 340. What a beautifull aircraft! Fokker 70/100 by JustFlight will be a major release for me as someone from the Netherlands. Save landings!
Was going to preorder the premium deluxe but went with the the standard edition because I think I would only be flying the FBW380 and some of the standard planes, but could upgrade later down the line.
Great vid 👍 really looking forward to fs24, btw the R44/22 are piston engine helicopters, the 66 is a gas turbine powered, however there may be exceptions I’m unaware of.
Thanks for the insight. I feel they missed a mark on one thing in this aircraft lineup that is there is no commercial airliner regional jet like a CRJ 700 or an Embraer E170 or 175
Saab 340 and C404 are great additions imo. I really wanted to see the Dash 8 series in there too though. Still waiting for a good third party dev to make a Q300.
Hopefuly the World Hub will begin to improve default airports in MSFS 2020 and 2024. I don't know what stage of alpha beta etc it's in at the moment but it has the potential to make a big difference.
Regarding editions, I said "screw it" and ordered the physical Limited Collector's Edition, lol. What MSFS2020 did to resuscitate the flight sim scene is pretty incredible, and I trust 2024 will be even better. The amount of default aircraft available is pretty staggering, especially since mostly all of them aren't just cheap knockoffs made in one weekend.
Standard edition will do me well I think. They could have easily robbed everyone and spread around notable aircraft throughout the price points to coerce more money out of people, but they didn't. I will be missing out on the Saab and those big Boeings, but I'm very happy with the airlines included in standard edition.
I really hope Asobo are going to apply everything they’ve learned. The world creation tech is absolutely incredible already, it’s just the core flight simulation capabilities and SDK they need to improve.
Great recap. I really don't like these modern marketing schemes where they make a middle tier edition that is clearly not worth it in order to make you buy the most expensive edition. How they balanced those planes between the editions is absolutely deliberate.
I think most of us have already bought a lot, if not all of the aviator edition planes, which will for sure work in 2024 by the way, so that edition is more or less geared toward new simmers who never played 2020, or didn't buy many addon aircraft. Premium deluxe is still the way to go for most of us veteran simmers.
Not sure if it was stated as I skipped through some of the video. But don't forget that any planes you own in your 2020 edition, you already own in 2024. So if you own the 20 Prem deluxe version, you own all those aircraft in 24 regardless of which edition you own. It may be worth getting a cheaper version and buying planes seperately if you only want an extra 1 or 2.
Can't wait! I'm really excited about 2024. There is a replay in 24 I believe. Thanks for the videos. Certainly helped me understand the world of airline flying. Thanks.
I dont know why no one knows that but MSFS 2020 has replay since a long time. You just need to enable the experimental options and then you can enable replay mode.
I'm leaning towards the Premium Deluxe version of 24. There are a fantastic amount of aircraft for all kinds of flying imaginable and I'm very excited for the release. I'm not sure whether to wait a little whil before getting it as I'm happy with where I am in 20 for the moment. But all the same, I'm eager to see the videos on the new sim 😁
iniBuilds are doing the A330 and Asobo is doing the 737 MAX. Aviator edition doesn't include anything new. It's literally just a bundle deal for all the MS published addon aircraft at a better price. I have 2020 Premium Deluxe, so I'm a bit on the fence about whether to get Standard or the newer Premium Deluxe. Essentially you're paying £60 extra for 15 extra new planes (£4/plane). The only ones I'm truly excited for in that list are the Saab 340B and the Dreamlifter, so £60 is perhaps a bit pricey for just those 2 planes, BUT what I don't know is if buying the Premium Deluxe gets you an upgraded 787-10 with new 2024 features, like an improved flight model and better ground handling. If that is the case, then I think that would make the upgrade a no-brainer for me.
Glad you can buy individual premium aeroplanes. Nothing in deluxe intrests me and only the c17 and boeings appeal to me on the premium. Looking forward to the full review.
As far as I know, all 2020 aircraft will work in 2024 in some compatibility mode, however I'm not sure if the flight models for the Aviator edition aircraft have been updated for MSFS 2024 to support the new features of the sim. Apparently marketplace purchased aircraft will carry over.
What put me off MSFS 2020 was when the installer created undeletable files on my drives and wouldnt deinstall properly. Using the app from the xbox store on a windows system I at least expect it to not fuck up my PC. I have been using X-Plane since then and are curious if 2024 has a better installer and file management
I found you when I got fs2020 in late 2022 and I had little to no idea how to fly the fbw A32NX. My only airbus experience was the default FSX A321 and we all know that one isn’t realistic 😂 and I had some experience with vasFMC, a freeware FSX FMC that was airbus based, but other than that, the A32NX was my first time flying an actual airbus cockpit.
Taxiway. Ha! I lost track of how many taxi lights I've taken out. They are everywhere. But you're right. Those standard airports are my only complaint for 2020. In the tech Alpha I didn't see much difference honestly. But then again that version was so limited, it's best to keep my mouth shut until Tuesday. Asobo built the 737. And yes. If you bought them and are in your marketplace as purchased. They will be available to you on 2024. Also. All Microsoft aircraft will get free upgrades to 2024 versions
Don't forget the five additional upgraded airports at Deluxe or above. Even though no one seems to know which airports they will be, or have more than speculation about the 150 they are upgrading for 2024. Anybody have any intel on this?
Staying with 2020 awhile. 1. I'm not close to fully exploring all the great things about 2020. I wonder how many of us have really explored and done a deep dive and gotten pretty much all that 2020 has to offer? I sure as heck am not going to get it simply because a new version is out. I've spent a lot of time getting 2020 set up to my liking. 2. It will cost more than simply buying 2024. Many will need to spend money to upgrade their computer. Many will have already spent hours building and tweaking 2020 to their liking. 3. Not an early adopter. I'll let others deal with any issues, expected or otherwise, and wait for Microsoft to work them out. Might be a better price by then too. So, for all the focus and wondering about what 2024 will be that content creators and others are doing I'm probably enjoying using //42 campout setting up a camp somewhere in the Rockies or enjoying the beaches in Hawaii. I've got to wrap this up as I've just been cleared for takeoff from KASE.
I pre-purchased the Aviator Edition and super excited about flying again, my only question is what the download size is because on steam the specs state that you need 50 GB's of storage space but I'm assuming that to be for the Standard Edition. It would be nice to know the download size for each edition
With the knowledge that all the Aviator Edition planes are just the official MS DLC planes for 2020, do you think the planes on offer are worth it for someone who hasn't purchased any of those planes for 2020? I'm finding it very hard to track down whether people actually enjoy flying those planes, which seems to be like the most pertinent question. From the ones you own, do you think they are enjoyable or would it be better to save that cash for some of the payware third party aircraft offered down the line?
Hey man this is a great video. Thanks a lot. I have one question: how did you manager to get the other runway on the nav display during your approach? is this possible from the fix page? does this help in swithcin runways in case ATC says so? Thanks again.
I am interested to know how much cost each other aircraft will be, as i can pretty much be ok with the standard edition and just buy the 787 Dreamliner and maybe a few others on top. most aircraft i fly are 3rd party that i already bought in MSFS2020 so only need the Dreamliner so i can use the Horizon Simulation 787-9
Old skool Toliss rulez. I always come back to it, even after flying the Fenix etc. It just feels the nicest on landing. Hoping MSFS 2024 recreates that feeling.
Big improvements coming to XP12 soon. I hope it's great to keep MSFS 2024 on its toes. Plus, I am not convinced at all that MSFS will be anything more than an arcade game with bling!
@@hjr2000 I hope so too. If I was forced to choose, I'd go X-Plane for the realism and night lighting, but I do like the visuals in MSFS. Nice to have both :)
Hi, i have a question if i may. I finaly made the switch from xbox to a brand new pc. Now i have the "xbox version" on my pc. But tuesday i can download the 2024 version on my pc. Do i delete the version i have now before installing the 2024 version? Or do i need that and does windows overide the old version?
I really wanted to like MSFS2020 as I'm a PPL student learning to fly visually. I mostly flew the C150 / 172 but find these flight models to be very inaccurate (using the Saitek yoke and throttle quadrant) and keep returning to XP12, which has really helped me progress in my training. I hope 2024 fixes some of the 'arcade' flight model feel for GA - this doesn't have as much of an impact on larger jets due to their stability an benign handling characteristics, but when you're flying more viscerally, it's very noticeable that the flight model is nowhere near as good as XP (IMHO). I don't want to start a civil war, they're both great in different ways. I'm open to the fact that it's a problem with my set up or configuration, I'd love to get that sorted out if that's all it is, but I've spent hours - days - of my life trying to figure it out and got nowhere.
yh i really wish microsoft would focus more on the flight models of planes…. as an xbox simmer idk how good xplane is but ive heard its MUCH MORE realistic in flight characteristics an im jealous.
Probably gonna play off gamepass for the first few months to a year until everything gets patched up and addons get updated and then im gonna buy the premium deluxe so excited
I am slightly annoyed at the pricing structure, the aviator edition in the USA is $199.99 about £160.00, yet in the UK the aviator version is £199.99, about $252.00, seems we are getting ripped off.
Hey @320 Sim Pilot - hope you see this comment. There are TONS of us needing you to guide us on how to remap our TCA Officer Pack to our airliners again. MSFS 2024 is way way way more complicated with their poorly created bindings UI. Please help us!!!
Default airports in MSFS 2020 aren't good however people HAVE modded thousands of them. There are some amazing freeware airports created that rival or even better some payware.
That beats my best - i tried to recreate the Spirit of St. Louis transatlantic flight. Didn’t go well. I just couldn’t do that much stick and rudder for that kind of duration … using a periscope.
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It's worth mentioning that you keep the premium deluxe and your purchased airplanes. You'll only miss out on the newly added ones. For example there is no need to purchase the premium deluxe edition of 2024 to get the 787 if you already own premium deluxe of 2020.
I hope you’re right, but I wonder if the ports of these aircraft will be with the new dynamics etc of the 2024 versions.
@@Daveodaddeo101 I don't think they are porting over the 2020 version, there will just be the 2024 version and everyone who had the 2020 version gets the new one. It would make no sense what so ever to keep people stuck on an old aircraft with no further development.
Very interesting, thank you for the info. I'll be going for Premium Deluxe still for the Saab and the 747s, but they already knew that anyway I'm sure!
@@320SimPilot I'm middle aged and just starting my flight training. Private pilot only. VFR initially, IFR depending on how that goes. Something I've wanted to do since I was a teen, but never had the time or money. Do you feel this is adequate for flight training? Are the lower editions accurate for flight training? What is a good budget controller set. I don't need a 5 grand over the top set, just a good set of basics. Thank you very much. I will listen to your entire presentation, it may be that you answered most of my questions already. If so, I apologize. Just excited. Had a windfall investment which makes all of this possible so I am excited.
@@320SimPilot We NEED YOU to help us with our TCA Thrustmaster Officer Pack and MSFS 2024 bindings - there are so many of us on the MSFS forums begging for your expertise on how to get our peripherals to work - no one can figure it out.
Hiring Working Title was the best thing Microsoft did for the sim, hands down. The improvements they've made to default aircraft are just incredible. They turned the unflyable 787 and 747 into something I can just hop in and fly. Not to mention the various Garmins.
The CJ4 basically saved the sim for me in the early days. The clever thing about Microsoft, is they quickly recognise this talent and throw cash at them - inibuilds being another example.
Bang on correct sir .
They are just amazing at listening to their audience.
MSFS 2020 is the best thing to ever happen to flight sim. Before it all we had were small P3D and X-Plane communities and this blew it wide open to more casual gamers. Say what you want but that’s what we needed. Look at the amount of developers and addons created. Addons from FSX updated for the first time in over 10 years. There was some definite money grabs from some but the interest from the general community this game had is something to behold on what I believe was a really small niche community up until MSFS 2020.
It being on Xbox is a massive help, I thought it would be the sims biggest problem as PC simmer as they tried to make it compatible for both, but in truth, it’s made the sim much more popular and brought people into our hobby and community that may never have had the chance, and fair play to Asobo this game has been well developed. It may have little issues here and there but it wasn’t so long ago where a lot of us were relying on 32 bit FSX/P3D (pre v4) worrying if we were going to use more than 4gb of RAM!
I was surprised and a little sceptical when MSFS2020 was announced, but my god it brought a new lease of life into our hobby and community, and for that alone without even considering the other amazing things in the sim, it ranks at the top for me!
Can’t agree more. It allowed casual gamers like me who are into aviation to get a taste of flight sims, which along with many other things, did wonders for the MSFS brand and the flight aim community. Bringing to Xbox was a genius move as so many people don’t have access to PCs that can handle the game.
What a great comment!
Breath of fresh air for Microsoft as there's a bit of misdirection everywhere else.
The reason the older 'premium deluxe' aircraft are still in the PD edition is because they carry over from 2020. So if you only purchase the 2024 standard edition have had the premium in 2020 you will still get those particular premium aircraft in 2024. The Aviators is just all of the 'Local Legends and Famous Flyers' in a big bundle, if you already have them from 2020 don't bother to get it in 2024 as they will carry over from 2020. Likewise with all of your Marketplace purchases.
Also, the Longitude is awesome, very fun to fly.
Yip I agree with you, that is what Jorge said in the interview, if you previously owned the PD version for Fs2020 then the aircraft carry over to Fs2024 great news and very good of Microsoft.
@@alexdbnsaa...you're cheering too quick😅, not that easy, the 2020 airplanes are not the 2024 counterparts, so with the old ones you won't get the 2024 features along with, you will be able to update them, but it won't be free, this is also confirmed by them
...they are not the same planes though, the 2020 versions don't have the 2024 features, they confirmed they will release the option to upgrade to the 2024 counterparts, but it's a payment upgrade of course
An enjoyable review of how far things have come since MSFS2020 was first released. Congratulations on the 90k subscribers! Thoroughly deserved!
Bravo!
Everyone is looking so forward to the next 2024 sim that people forget how good the current sim is. It has been and is still brilliant. Thanks for addressing this.
I’m just starting flight sims and it’s perfect for me. Loads of content, updates and tutorials available. So current version will do me for years
Premuim Deluxe for me. And will wait a month or three to let the dust settle down a bit and watch the tons of upcoming youtube opinions coming out.
The MSFS 2020 journey has been incredible, and I think you summed it up wonderfully. Our flight sim hobby has gone from strength to strength with the likes of yourself to guide us along the way. I’ve learned so much, which has in turn made my enjoyment of this hobby even greater. I don’t think that would have happened without MSFS 2020 and knowledgable content creators like yourself. Can’t thank you enough! Really looking forward to what ‘24 brings, although I’ll be flying 2020 for some time as well. What a journey it has been! 😊
I'm sure I'll be using MSFS 2020 as well, too many fantastic aircraft ready to go. But hopefully it won't take long to get 2024 up and running with them too. Thanks for being a part of the channel and journey here Ed, it's the communities enthusiasm that keeps me making videos and keeps the sims alive!
Again! Another great video, thank you so much! We are so lucky to have you.
Really good summary of FS2020. We are truly living in a golden age of flight simulation. There seems to be a great balance for everyone and that is saying something when you consider the broad spectrum of people that play/use the sim. I love it.
All your purchases in marketplace transfer over. The Longitude alone draws me to PD, and I'm super excited about the PC24. The rest are amazing bonuses. Plus, let's not forget the value of the bespoke airports which come with it too, and for many that saves them from having to buy 3rd party.
congrats on 90k! and good plane analysis, good to have this info for sure
I enjoy your content, you're always very well spoken. Some days I wonder if there really is anything that seriously annoys you! I will wait a few weeks for early updates and critical fixes and I'll just take the standard edition for now.
For aviator's edition, that is basically a colllection of all the Famous flyers, Local legends and Expert series (ATR) aircraft. You will keep every aircraft you've already bought from those even if you are not going for that edition in the new sim. I believe you only need to want 7 aircraft from that list to "justify" the price. so the upgrade would be worth the same as 7 of those individually. So it's very good value for money if you don't already own most of them and some of those interest you. I'm going for the aviator's edition but I think standard or premium deluxe will be the choice for many.
Great video as always, looking forward to the future.
Brilliant video, as ever. Helped me to make my mind up and we are assured that we can upgrade at a later date. Thanks for taking the time to put all of this together.
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She was determined to be in this video! Thanks for watching.
Was great hearing from the first officer! Haven’t heard her in a while
This is a cracking video. Made me feel all nostalgic 😂
Im glad! It did the same for me, thanks for watching!
The extra planes in the aviator edition are all the marketplace aircraft that were released as a Microsoft asobo thing, for example Flying Legends, Reno Air Race pack etc. It allows someone to buy that collection as a bundle.. If you owned them already then they get carried over to the new sim anyway. As before you can also purchase the planes separately too if you just want a couple but compared to buying them all separately it's a huge discount.
there is a replay function in 2020, it's just hidden in experimental it's in the 2024, i played the beta last month. In fact i think from what i remember the modder who made the replay addon is now doing it for 2024.
the most noticable thing from the beta was it was only 9gb and the load times into flight where so much better than 2020
Appreciate your input as ever. The Longitude is one of my favourites since the avionics were sorted and plus the flight model mod that was available. It is essentially an airliner lite - pretty quick to get going but you still have the perf items to set up - for takeoff and landing - and has autothrottles. As mentioned above the avionics really good now. Also very fast so great for a round-the-world part 91 experience unless you copy cockpit casual guys! - have made it from Africa to Hong Kong so far via the US. No cabin but thoroughly recommend you give it another go!
I bought the Premium Deluxe version of 2020 but haven't really used any of the extra content to be honest. This time it will be the standard edition since I have game pass. However, a big difference now is that they have confirmed that we will be able to buy individual aircraft (I suspect airports also) from the more expensive packages so if there's any particular thing I want I can buy that.
So does that mean that the Saab 340B (for example) could be purchased standalone? I wonder how they'll price those. If the marketplace isn't ready on day one, then that's going to be a bit of an issue for some people who are on the fence with which edition to buy.
@mdhazeldine yes, you will be able to buy it separately.
@@andershogqvist But we don't know the price yet, right? Kinda hard to make a decision if no pricing has been announced.
@@mdhazeldine that's true, but I recon it will be the same pricing model as in 2020 so as long as you just want one or two models I'm sure it will be less expensive than buying the whole package
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I love your channcel and all the useful information. Keep on going!
R44 is a piston helicopter; the R66 we're getting is a turbine
I'm sticking to 2020 i still think it's great sim and will wait few months for performances to improve
Same here. The current sim is superb for what I do. I am looking forward to the new one but It's so good right now.
You are able to fly all your purchased aircraft straight from launch even with the disabled marketplace. They will be in your library. The delay on the marketplace is to protect new buyers from potential bugs.
What a great video ! Exciting times ahead for sure ! We are so lucky ! Our hobby is amazing ! It will be the Premium Deluxe for me ! However I’m going to wait until Christmas 🎅🏻 before I get it ! I really hope FS2024 goes well on Tuesday ! Thank You so much for a great channel ! Happy Landings 👊🙏🏻❤️✈️👨✈️
Exciting times indeed! Thanks for watching and I'm glad you enjoyed it!
90,000! Subs Nice one! 😁
This all looks great.
Thank you.
HOWEVER, i just feel like i will personally need to wait and be a late adopter - the absurd amt of time i spent with MSFS dead in the water over the first TWO YEARS directly resulting from updates, only to ultimately have to reinstall MSFS entirely due to a seemingly endless series of updates that would fail MSFS into an unrecoverable state.
I hope i am wrong. But personal time is very tight and i simply need a high ratio of flt time to update/maintenance/reboot time.
I am cautiously optimistic that MSFT will be WAY more hands on so as to release a robust/scalable MSFS.
Anyway, hopefully everyone’s experience will prove my reluctance dead wrong. Godspeed, all !
The a330 IS from ini inibuilds, they had a whole showcase stream showing it
Excellent news, thank you!
2020 was impressive, but there were a ton of issues that made it annoying for me to load up and play. Frequent large updates, predownloading detailed landscape and buildings along your flight path, dealing with features that were a little broken like ATC and GPS systems, no career mode. 2024 looks like it fixed all these issues. So I cant wait.
I would be interested to know more which airports will be added to the different versions. mainly, I'm interested in whether they are qualitatively better than in the standard version
Flightsimming has come a long way since I started with FSX. For now I'll stay with 2020 until my go-to aircrafts like the PMDG 737, PMDG 777 and TFDi MD-11 work in 2024.
Can't wait to fly the Saab 340. What a beautifull aircraft!
Fokker 70/100 by JustFlight will be a major release for me as someone from the Netherlands.
Save landings!
Agreed, wait until study stuff moves over
Which version? Both until bugs and such get worked out.
Bugs are... inevitable!
Was going to preorder the premium deluxe but went with the the standard edition because I think I would only be flying the FBW380 and some of the standard planes, but could upgrade later down the line.
Great vid 👍 really looking forward to fs24, btw the R44/22 are piston engine helicopters, the 66 is a gas turbine powered, however there may be exceptions I’m unaware of.
Thanks for the insight. I feel they missed a mark on one thing in this aircraft lineup that is there is no commercial airliner regional jet like a CRJ 700 or an Embraer E170 or 175
Saab 340 and C404 are great additions imo. I really wanted to see the Dash 8 series in there too though. Still waiting for a good third party dev to make a Q300.
Hopefuly the World Hub will begin to improve default airports in MSFS 2020 and 2024. I don't know what stage of alpha beta etc it's in at the moment but it has the potential to make a big difference.
Regarding editions, I said "screw it" and ordered the physical Limited Collector's Edition, lol. What MSFS2020 did to resuscitate the flight sim scene is pretty incredible, and I trust 2024 will be even better. The amount of default aircraft available is pretty staggering, especially since mostly all of them aren't just cheap knockoffs made in one weekend.
Standard edition will do me well I think. They could have easily robbed everyone and spread around notable aircraft throughout the price points to coerce more money out of people, but they didn't. I will be missing out on the Saab and those big Boeings, but I'm very happy with the airlines included in standard edition.
Nice video Sir....for me it will be the standard edition for sure
I really hope Asobo are going to apply everything they’ve learned. The world creation tech is absolutely incredible already, it’s just the core flight simulation capabilities and SDK they need to improve.
Thanks, good info.
Glad it was helpful!
Great recap.
I really don't like these modern marketing schemes where they make a middle tier edition that is clearly not worth it in order to make you buy the most expensive edition. How they balanced those planes between the editions is absolutely deliberate.
I think most of us have already bought a lot, if not all of the aviator edition planes, which will for sure work in 2024 by the way, so that edition is more or less geared toward new simmers who never played 2020, or didn't buy many addon aircraft. Premium deluxe is still the way to go for most of us veteran simmers.
Not sure if it was stated as I skipped through some of the video.
But don't forget that any planes you own in your 2020 edition, you already own in 2024. So if you own the 20 Prem deluxe version, you own all those aircraft in 24 regardless of which edition you own. It may be worth getting a cheaper version and buying planes seperately if you only want an extra 1 or 2.
Can't wait! I'm really excited about 2024. There is a replay in 24 I believe. Thanks for the videos. Certainly helped me understand the world of airline flying. Thanks.
I dont know why no one knows that but MSFS 2020 has replay since a long time. You just need to enable the experimental options and then you can enable replay mode.
I'm leaning towards the Premium Deluxe version of 24. There are a fantastic amount of aircraft for all kinds of flying imaginable and I'm very excited for the release. I'm not sure whether to wait a little whil before getting it as I'm happy with where I am in 20 for the moment. But all the same, I'm eager to see the videos on the new sim 😁
I’ve purchased the PD version from CDKeys for only £75, looking forward to testing out 2024
I have pre-ordered premium deluxe. Will get the PC ready this weekend.
Thanks for the video
And thanks a lot for showing the city I was born from the heavens!... 🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂
Very helpful, thank you. I'm undecided as I tend not to fly the default a/c so the standard seems best as it's the cheapest.
I'm gonna hold out on 2024 until the dust settles and all my add on aircraft can be transferred.
thanks for the insight!
I'll be waiting until several months after release in 2025. Enjoying what I have and not in any great rush to move on.
Do we have to buy the premium deluxe version of 2024 to get the 787 if we have the premium deluxe version of MSFS 2020??
iniBuilds are doing the A330 and Asobo is doing the 737 MAX. Aviator edition doesn't include anything new. It's literally just a bundle deal for all the MS published addon aircraft at a better price. I have 2020 Premium Deluxe, so I'm a bit on the fence about whether to get Standard or the newer Premium Deluxe. Essentially you're paying £60 extra for 15 extra new planes (£4/plane). The only ones I'm truly excited for in that list are the Saab 340B and the Dreamlifter, so £60 is perhaps a bit pricey for just those 2 planes, BUT what I don't know is if buying the Premium Deluxe gets you an upgraded 787-10 with new 2024 features, like an improved flight model and better ground handling. If that is the case, then I think that would make the upgrade a no-brainer for me.
Great video. Can i just ask was the sky settings near the end of this video standard from the sim or from a add on? Looked fantastic
Glad you can buy individual premium aeroplanes. Nothing in deluxe intrests me and only the c17 and boeings appeal to me on the premium. Looking forward to the full review.
As far as I know, all 2020 aircraft will work in 2024 in some compatibility mode, however I'm not sure if the flight models for the Aviator edition aircraft have been updated for MSFS 2024 to support the new features of the sim. Apparently marketplace purchased aircraft will carry over.
Dude I spent nearly 20 minutes listening before I realized the timestamp to get to 2024…
He did not say anything that would be worth skipping
Hopefully this time around Africa will get proper attention for the world updates etc...
20:20 "We can entertain ourselves." *flies airline and pushes PMDG pen* 😂
What put me off MSFS 2020 was when the installer created undeletable files on my drives and wouldnt deinstall properly. Using the app from the xbox store on a windows system I at least expect it to not fuck up my PC. I have been using X-Plane since then and are curious if 2024 has a better installer and file management
I think u can still get the planes if you purchased the plane in the previous edition hopefully this is the case
I found you when I got fs2020 in late 2022 and I had little to no idea how to fly the fbw A32NX. My only airbus experience was the default FSX A321 and we all know that one isn’t realistic 😂 and I had some experience with vasFMC, a freeware FSX FMC that was airbus based, but other than that, the A32NX was my first time flying an actual airbus cockpit.
Taxiway. Ha! I lost track of how many taxi lights I've taken out. They are everywhere. But you're right. Those standard airports are my only complaint for 2020. In the tech Alpha I didn't see much difference honestly. But then again that version was so limited, it's best to keep my mouth shut until Tuesday. Asobo built the 737. And yes. If you bought them and are in your marketplace as purchased. They will be available to you on 2024. Also. All Microsoft aircraft will get free upgrades to 2024 versions
Don't forget the five additional upgraded airports at Deluxe or above. Even though no one seems to know which airports they will be, or have more than speculation about the 150 they are upgrading for 2024. Anybody have any intel on this?
Staying with 2020 awhile.
1. I'm not close to fully exploring all the great things about 2020. I wonder how many of us have really explored and done a deep dive and gotten pretty much all that 2020 has to offer? I sure as heck am not going to get it simply because a new version is out. I've spent a lot of time getting 2020 set up to my liking.
2. It will cost more than simply buying 2024. Many will need to spend money to upgrade their computer. Many will have already spent hours building and tweaking 2020 to their liking.
3. Not an early adopter. I'll let others deal with any issues, expected or otherwise, and wait for Microsoft to work them out. Might be a better price by then too.
So, for all the focus and wondering about what 2024 will be that content creators and others are doing I'm probably enjoying using //42 campout setting up a camp somewhere in the Rockies or enjoying the beaches in Hawaii. I've got to wrap this up as I've just been cleared for takeoff from KASE.
I pre-purchased the Aviator Edition and super excited about flying again, my only question is what the download size is because on steam the specs state that you need 50 GB's of storage space but I'm assuming that to be for the Standard Edition. It would be nice to know the download size for each edition
With the knowledge that all the Aviator Edition planes are just the official MS DLC planes for 2020, do you think the planes on offer are worth it for someone who hasn't purchased any of those planes for 2020? I'm finding it very hard to track down whether people actually enjoy flying those planes, which seems to be like the most pertinent question. From the ones you own, do you think they are enjoyable or would it be better to save that cash for some of the payware third party aircraft offered down the line?
Hey man this is a great video. Thanks a lot. I have one question: how did you manager to get the other runway on the nav display during your approach? is this possible from the fix page? does this help in swithcin runways in case ATC says so? Thanks again.
Are you absolutely sure you can buy premium deluxe airplanes if you bought the standard version?
I am interested to know how much cost each other aircraft will be, as i can pretty much be ok with the standard edition and just buy the 787 Dreamliner and maybe a few others on top.
most aircraft i fly are 3rd party that i already bought in MSFS2020 so only need the Dreamliner so i can use the Horizon Simulation 787-9
Old skool Toliss rulez. I always come back to it, even after flying the Fenix etc. It just feels the nicest on landing. Hoping MSFS 2024 recreates that feeling.
Big improvements coming to XP12 soon. I hope it's great to keep MSFS 2024 on its toes.
Plus, I am not convinced at all that MSFS will be anything more than an arcade game with bling!
@@hjr2000 I hope so too. If I was forced to choose, I'd go X-Plane for the realism and night lighting, but I do like the visuals in MSFS. Nice to have both :)
@@hjr2000 is this "msfs is a game" thing STILL after 4 years going on?
@@iamjames8200 yes, sadly it is.
@@iamjames8200 well it does use a non-flight simulation game engine under the bonnet that Asobo had developed prior to MSFS 2020, so there's that.
Does anyone know if the different editions will also impact handcrafted airports etc? Or do the editions just determine which aircraft you get? Cheers
95 Aircraft and no Dash-8?
It feels like a personal attack at this point 😄
I wonder if it'll be possible to upgrade between editions
2020 and 2024 can fly together over Vatsim?
What Replay-tool do you use at the moment?
Hi, i have a question if i may. I finaly made the switch from xbox to a brand new pc. Now i have the "xbox version" on my pc. But tuesday i can download the 2024 version on my pc. Do i delete the version i have now before installing the 2024 version? Or do i need that and does windows overide the old version?
The only thing I'm concerned about is when the Fenix will be able to fly in 2024
I really wanted to like MSFS2020 as I'm a PPL student learning to fly visually. I mostly flew the C150 / 172 but find these flight models to be very inaccurate (using the Saitek yoke and throttle quadrant) and keep returning to XP12, which has really helped me progress in my training. I hope 2024 fixes some of the 'arcade' flight model feel for GA - this doesn't have as much of an impact on larger jets due to their stability an benign handling characteristics, but when you're flying more viscerally, it's very noticeable that the flight model is nowhere near as good as XP (IMHO). I don't want to start a civil war, they're both great in different ways. I'm open to the fact that it's a problem with my set up or configuration, I'd love to get that sorted out if that's all it is, but I've spent hours - days - of my life trying to figure it out and got nowhere.
yh i really wish microsoft would focus more on the flight models of planes…. as an xbox simmer idk how good xplane is but ive heard its MUCH MORE realistic in flight characteristics an im jealous.
Any idea, when the Deluxe- or Premium Deluxe Edition will be available on Steam again (preferably on release day)?
Probably gonna play off gamepass for the first few months to a year until everything gets patched up and addons get updated and then im gonna buy the premium deluxe so excited
I am slightly annoyed at the pricing structure, the aviator edition in the USA is $199.99 about £160.00, yet in the UK the aviator version is £199.99, about $252.00, seems we are getting ripped off.
No Piper PA28
Premium deluxe is indeed the way to go
How many hours you have in msfs?
Great question! Around 1500 hours
Same questions here. I have the atr for 2020 so i dont need the aviator edition. Will my license for the atr carry over?
It will
I’m having both on my pc I expect tons of issues and bugs come Tuesday
I really want the L1011 tri star
Hey @320 Sim Pilot - hope you see this comment. There are TONS of us needing you to guide us on how to remap our TCA Officer Pack to our airliners again. MSFS 2024 is way way way more complicated with their poorly created bindings UI. Please help us!!!
I helped myself and ended up fine
@ so how does that answer my question?
Default airports in MSFS 2020 aren't good however people HAVE modded thousands of them. There are some amazing freeware airports created that rival or even better some payware.
How does game pass fit into this? Does that give you the standard edition?
Yes.
Where's the DC-9 and DC-10?
so when is the 100hr stream from Stanstard to Ibiza in a Hot Air Balloon coming :)
That beats my best - i tried to recreate the Spirit of St. Louis transatlantic flight. Didn’t go well. I just couldn’t do that much stick and rudder for that kind of duration … using a periscope.