Why Does It Always Look Like People Are Hacking? Killcam Investigation!

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  • I did a killcam investigation after I had a super sus killcam on someone in a match the other day.
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  • @JustBrian1892
    @JustBrian1892 3 года назад +2009

    “I KILLED A PRO PLAYER..... and they accused me of cheating!!” Would be the title from every other content maker! I love how modest you are..... keep it up dude.... and you can admit you are a top tier player!!!

    • @fottombeeder35
      @fottombeeder35 3 года назад +79

      Maybe more like... "I KILLED a PRO PLAYER and they ACCUSED me of CHEATING!!! 🤯🤯🤯 Most BROKEN MK2 CARBINE LOADOUT makes you SHOOT like you have AIMBOT!!!!"

    • @AD-bd9nx
      @AD-bd9nx 3 года назад +23

      “Zero recoil mk2 class has pro players mad 😡 “ lmfao

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage 3 года назад +1

      Big facts!!!

    • @helforsite3130
      @helforsite3130 3 года назад +27

      Its kinda ironic that about 90% of streamers, Merk and TeePee included, would have hit those shots, but if it happens to them its cheating, classical "streamer syndrome".

    • @seangfoley
      @seangfoley 3 года назад +2

      And don’t forget the thumbnail of him gasping with his mouth wide open 😧🥴

  • @DoctorSandia
    @DoctorSandia 3 года назад +1319

    No wonder everytime I die my opponent looks like he just injected g fuel in his veins

    • @AD-bd9nx
      @AD-bd9nx 3 года назад +62

      I hear they snort it inside of superstore.

    • @robertfrost5952
      @robertfrost5952 3 года назад +32

      @@AD-bd9nx they actually inject it into their retinas so it seeps through their eyes and makes them go sicko mode

    • @francescojolo
      @francescojolo 3 года назад +4

      @@robertfrost5952 hope this comment is ironical otherwise i would laugh till tomorrow (if there's someone that do it for real )

    • @francescojolo
      @francescojolo 3 года назад

      @@davitdavid7165 yeah i know thats why i would laugh thats one of the most stupid thing you can do with your eyes

    • @jakelee7083
      @jakelee7083 3 года назад +7

      Is that why crossing the street in Verdansk is so dangerous?
      Just a bunch of leftover needles everywhere.

  • @Zaws21
    @Zaws21 3 года назад +1026

    I feel like I can't trust anything in this game

    • @endornaut
      @endornaut 3 года назад +35

      Lol you probably shouldn't

    • @odddellarobbia4
      @odddellarobbia4 3 года назад +10

      first this,and private lobby different stat of guns what else

    • @mattc8196
      @mattc8196 3 года назад +7

      Fun fact, were actually playing crash bandicoot right now lol

    • @sunwooooooo
      @sunwooooooo 3 года назад

      @@odddellarobbia4 that certain optics give suppression 😂😂

    • @b_f_d_d
      @b_f_d_d 3 года назад +2

      You shouldn't at all

  • @TheJacobHudman
    @TheJacobHudman 3 года назад +1038

    Streamers: HE'S HACKING!! HE'S HACKING!!!
    True Game Data: Well, actually...

    • @Hugo-ew2ko
      @Hugo-ew2ko 3 года назад +24

      Yeah I always had the feeling that either killcams were sped up or sometimes skipped frames to make it look super 'snappy'. Probably 80% of the time I called someone a cheater after a killcam it was a legit player, I'll hold that L. The problem is that there are cheaters (although not as many as we'd like to think) and it makes everyone super sus (of legit players as well). Bad place to be in for a game/community.

    • @francescojolo
      @francescojolo 3 года назад +1

      @@Hugo-ew2ko thats why you should spectate them if you have a suspect

    • @neon_necromunda
      @neon_necromunda 3 года назад +5

      Proof that adult male streamers are just as dim as the rest of us.

    • @memmudmemmed3022
      @memmudmemmed3022 3 года назад +3

      @@neon_necromunda it's human nature, and it doesn't matter if you're male or female

    • @neon_necromunda
      @neon_necromunda 3 года назад +4

      @@memmudmemmed3022 true but I siad they were male because they were it bore no reflection on stereotypes

  • @bigph1l
    @bigph1l 3 года назад +817

    It doesn't help that everyone's paranoid at every death in this game lol

    • @Adizzle235
      @Adizzle235 3 года назад +72

      Doesn’t help the game is super broken too

    • @karandras2854
      @karandras2854 3 года назад +72

      the anticheat is not there, so everyone is sus

    • @jamief1263
      @jamief1263 3 года назад +8

      Yeah the amount of cheaters are out of control. A lot of what happens is sus

    • @Binford2500
      @Binford2500 3 года назад +8

      Doesn’t help that there are a *ton* of actual cheaters too.

    • @BadgerGirl
      @BadgerGirl 3 года назад +18

      well i mean i was killed a few days back by a dude who's stats showed a 34.26kd...so i think i have grounds to be slightly sus.

  • @brandong.1337
    @brandong.1337 3 года назад +454

    I'm surprised he even got a kill cam from that, most of the time when I'm looking at the person who killed me the game doesn't even bother giving me a kill cam.

    • @kwoni3337
      @kwoni3337 3 года назад +71

      That's an interesting question. Why are the killcams so inconsistent with showing or not 🤔

    • @SevenFaith129
      @SevenFaith129 3 года назад +60

      I think it depends on how long you were bleeding out to get a kill cam. I've noticed that if I die and get finished right away, I'll get a killcam. If I die and bleed for a bit, I won't get a killcam. If I die and give up instantly, it'll show me the killcam.

    • @Simensandberg6994
      @Simensandberg6994 3 года назад +14

      You have to press C and give up, then you see the killcam. If u bleed out, U wont get killcam

    • @thordavid1968
      @thordavid1968 3 года назад +13

      yes true and that's bloody annoying, especially when every suspicious kills are not shown on kill cam, very convenient and I wonder if there is a way to not be on the kill cam as a cheater, if not, it's a complete random crap

    • @IroquoisPlissken
      @IroquoisPlissken 3 года назад +19

      @@SevenFaith129 I play solo and so die instantly and I don't have killcam 75% of the time.

  • @mattiik
    @mattiik 3 года назад +335

    Everyone's been on both sides of this at some point

  • @spennypayne
    @spennypayne 3 года назад +1036

    I hope Merk and Teep see this and respond!

    • @HellsKitchen06
      @HellsKitchen06 3 года назад +95

      They already stated from their view it appears he's hacking, which it does. But, once they saw the other clip, they said all is good. There's no beef here.

    • @helforsite3130
      @helforsite3130 3 года назад +342

      @@HellsKitchen06 I am going to be unpopular here and disagree. Even in the Killcam it doesn't look like something your average streamer doesn't do himself atleast 2 times every game.
      They just suffer from "streamer/pro syndrome" where they play so much against people not as good as them that everyone as good as them seems sus to them.

    • @AreaCodes11
      @AreaCodes11 3 года назад +101

      @@HellsKitchen06 lol the gulag kill doesn't look suspect at all....

    • @localsonly-ju6fc
      @localsonly-ju6fc 3 года назад +7

      @@helforsite3130 fo real

    • @HellsKitchen06
      @HellsKitchen06 3 года назад +11

      @@helforsite3130 Clearly it does and even True admitted it does. Anyone who understands movement and unnatural sticky/ flicks will understand. Henece why they thought it was sus, until you see the real clip.

  • @CxWxD
    @CxWxD 3 года назад +186

    Hey TGD, you touched on this in the video but I just want to expand on something you briefly mentioned in the video which is tick rate. In many games where there is a spectator client or a demo system (I am referring to CSGO and Team Fortress 2 in my example), the tick rate used when reconstructing the in-game events is a fraction of the actual tick rate used in the live game server. In the example of Team Fortress 2, in-game servers are 66 tick when you're actually playing in them, but the demo recordings in which these in-game events are reconstructed are 16-tick. As you can imagine, this means that the same level of "detail" is impossible to capture in the smaller amount of ticks, so it creates this sort of bizarre smoothness since all the little micro-adjustments that the player made with their mouse aren't captured. If you go watch a TF2 gameplay montage, the aim looks weirdly smooth (if it was recorded from a demo).
    In terms of Call of Duty, this odd killcam tickrate difference has been known for a while, to the point where the term "blackscoping" was very popular in the quickscoping community of Modern Warfare 2, because if you quickscoped fast enough, the frame/tick in which your crosshair was visible isn't captured in the killcam recreation, thus making look like you shot while the black part of the scope was covering your entire view (even though in reality you actually did see the crosshair for a frame or two when you took the shot). If you look up videos of old competitive quickscoping matches from MW2, which were recorded by a spectator, you'll immediately notice this effect due to the lower tickrate of the spectator system. I'm not an expert but just thought I would share what I do know
    The loss in captured detail in the killcam gives the aiming this sort of inhuman level of smoothness which I imagine is why everyone is so quick to assume someone is just cheating, since nobody actually aims like that (not to mention what you pointed out about the increased speed of the killcam)

    • @TacticalDimples
      @TacticalDimples 3 года назад +13

      This makes a lot of sense. Explains all those deaths from quickscopers lol was wondering how they were shooting so fast. Thank you for the write-up

    • @OpossumElefant
      @OpossumElefant 3 года назад +2

      I could imagine that they are speeding up the killcam so flicks and weird moves caused by the low spectator-tickrate and package lost might not stand out within the general faster movemont. And in Gulag they could save the killcam with the actual server-tickrate, because they know somebody is going to die soon and therefore the memory is spend well. Im not sure if a sped up killcam with low tickrate really looks smoother, but maybe the developers are just as stupid as I am...

    • @lezzard
      @lezzard 3 года назад +1

      Awesome insight, thanks!

    • @Pabmyster
      @Pabmyster 3 года назад +3

      This makes tons of sense. Interpolate the in between frames and it saves on resource cost.

    • @CxWxD
      @CxWxD 3 года назад

      @@lezzard You're welcome!

  • @cofiddle
    @cofiddle 3 года назад +400

    Homie got bullied in front of 20k people over a cheating allegation.

    • @M1MOB
      @M1MOB 3 года назад +16

      He didn’t have to say he was worse, could have just explained

    • @ALIENjoy
      @ALIENjoy 3 года назад +8

      @@M1MOB I was just thinking that too. TGD killed him once on a good shot, it’s not that serious haha.

    • @hilaireb795
      @hilaireb795 3 года назад +91

      @@ALIENjoy "Pro" gamer ego's are even more fragile than the average gamer. And that's extremely fragile as it is. Dude got outplayed happens to literally everyone. Smh

    • @francescojolo
      @francescojolo 3 года назад +29

      @@hilaireb795 honestly these killcams are not sus hahaha, i mean a lot of times streamers do those thing and they justify saying that they are just good(wich is true ) then they got killed and they think its impossible that the other person can land shots sometimes

    • @iVibeBruh
      @iVibeBruh 3 года назад +4

      @@francescojolo now this is the truth

  • @Thedudeman8282
    @Thedudeman8282 3 года назад +16

    The fact that you had to protect their egos is why I'll never watch those turds.

  • @whatiwant8898
    @whatiwant8898 3 года назад +121

    I don't know why they thought the second killcam looked suspicious. It really didn't.

    • @helforsite3130
      @helforsite3130 3 года назад +46

      Streamer syndrome, they just aren't used to playing against players near or at their skill level.

    • @AtE1600
      @AtE1600 3 года назад +25

      Well from the first one they thought they already confirmed he was hacking so they just assumed.

    • @ΑΝΙΚΙ
      @ΑΝΙΚΙ 3 года назад +23

      @@helforsite3130 must have been their first time playing in a diamond lobby where they belong 😂

    • @jordycrumpet
      @jordycrumpet 3 года назад +2

      Because they're fragile

    • @collinbelshee3141
      @collinbelshee3141 3 года назад +3

      I didn’t see it either until I examined it closer. If you look at the killcam versus actual cam, you’ll see that the killcam shows his gun snapping very drastically versus smoothly.

  • @kitanesenpai2186
    @kitanesenpai2186 3 года назад +96

    now i just need to know why the games often appears to be heavely desynced, like allready being in cover and still dying and seeing in the killcam that you were open much longer on his screen etc

    • @chrism.5961
      @chrism.5961 3 года назад +19

      Probably has to do with the game's terrible tickrate. I'm pretty sure the servers operate on really low tickrates despite what IW and Activision may say.

    • @msr00001
      @msr00001 3 года назад +2

      Unfortunately, that's just the result of having a much higher ping than your opponent.

    • @msr00001
      @msr00001 3 года назад +8

      @Mingue Kwak I think it's a result of sbmm putting you in servers that are further from you geographically. I live in the UK and recently have been getting put on Turkish servers resulting in ~80 ping. The reason I suspect it's Turkish servers is because a large portion of server use the Turkish flag calling card.
      I recommend you watch xclusiveace's analysis of SBMM, there's some very interesting results :)

    • @GazCB
      @GazCB 3 года назад +6

      @@msr00001 as a uk player I have noticed an over representation of turkey flags

    • @bruschetta7711
      @bruschetta7711 3 года назад +1

      Tickrate, there's like 40, on competitive games like CSGO there's like 60 and the community wants 120

  • @dustinlaine7279
    @dustinlaine7279 3 года назад +25

    That gulag kill didn’t even look like hacking, they just use to everyone in their lobby’s being subpar players

  • @thedude5043
    @thedude5043 3 года назад +179

    Don't be so modest bro, you smashed them! :D

    • @thomasgarcia8118
      @thomasgarcia8118 3 года назад +7

      Fr bro he absolutely shit on that dude💀

    • @jalapenopoggers8310
      @jalapenopoggers8310 3 года назад +2

      well if he isn't rabid fans will be annoying

    • @gmart3290
      @gmart3290 3 года назад +3

      @@thomasgarcia8118 I wouldn’t say that about the kill on Merc but he definitely outplayed teep. He doesn’t need to gloat about winning vs a streamer to feel good about himself.

    • @dbottiaux88
      @dbottiaux88 3 года назад +1

      And on kbm... actual skill.

    • @TheActiontkr
      @TheActiontkr 3 года назад

      They were his beeetchez

  • @zonez__1522
    @zonez__1522 3 года назад +37

    🤯 33% faster replays make so much sense

  • @darksyd374
    @darksyd374 3 года назад +79

    Its crazy af how kill cams look different then perspective. Maybe this should be brought up to a few folks in the community. But some people do hack and the kill cam catches them.

    • @fabianrangel0422
      @fabianrangel0422 3 года назад

      Yeah for sure. It’s more noticeable with automatic guns both of these kills were single shot so it’s harder to tell.

    • @s.l5787
      @s.l5787 3 года назад +8

      Another difference he didn't mention is the difference in latency. Players with OP connection will send info to the server more quickly, so even if you move behind a wall for cover, on their side they already put in 4 bullets into you. Dodging bullets and bunny hopping across covers is a lot less effective if your connection isn't good, as such techniques rely on sending information to the server before your opponent can see that the change happened. This is why top streamers with amazing latency can make even decent players look like bots from their side of the screen.

  • @endornaut
    @endornaut 3 года назад +79

    The killcam looks like it's from a highly edited quickscope montage lol

  • @LosN209
    @LosN209 3 года назад +17

    Maybe if Activision had some quality anti cheat. We wouldn't need to say people are hacking all the time from sus killcams like that.

    • @TrueGameData
      @TrueGameData  3 года назад +10

      Agree!

    • @xPanda25
      @xPanda25 3 года назад +4

      They are just a small multi-billion dollar company, you can't expect them to have an anti-cheat in a highly played game

    • @MillsOnWheels
      @MillsOnWheels 3 года назад

      @@xPanda25 because its literally IMPOSSIBLE as the game software is currently constructed vs the types of hacks being used.

    • @MillsOnWheels
      @MillsOnWheels 3 года назад

      @@xPanda25 you literally cant throw enough money at a problem with a unsolvable issue. its like asking why cant a Trillionaire hire enough Fire Departments to put out a Volcano

    • @xPanda25
      @xPanda25 3 года назад +1

      @@MillsOnWheels you are entirely wrong on this subject and that is a wildly different analogy to the topic. Activision doesn't even *have* an anti-cheat whereas games like CS:GO at least had one, even if it wasn't 100% solid. They have more than enough funds to publish a solid anti-cheat, they are just actively choosing not to because of greed, not caring about the player base, or some believe they themselves are the ones selling the hacks

  • @noahcalhoun3964
    @noahcalhoun3964 3 года назад +1

    dude what a quality vid, no overhyped bullshit, no clickbait, just honest humble discussion. keep it up cant wait to see more.

  • @joebob3683
    @joebob3683 3 года назад +16

    After playing a ton of Gunfight on MW 2019, I learned the kill cams lie

    • @EGGLETONII
      @EGGLETONII 3 года назад +2

      Yeah bro lol like you ain’t even on the bitch and you kill them somehow

  • @BostonsRaddest
    @BostonsRaddest 3 года назад +35

    I only play SnD. I see a lot of kill cams. Another weird difference is all ragdoll effects are unique to your system. Nobody sees the same thing.

    • @resident8935
      @resident8935 3 года назад +1

      Yea I keep noticing that

    • @TurkeyOW
      @TurkeyOW 3 года назад +1

      That happens in any other game ever, I think its because rag dolls no longer send info to the server so if you move it it won't be moved on anyone else's screen, only yours cause the ragdoll becomes independent from the server.

  • @dxpamin3
    @dxpamin3 3 года назад +34

    True game data: Smart, humble, talented.

  • @fearfactful
    @fearfactful 3 года назад +157

    This is what EVERYONE says lol "hes hacking"

    • @Hospey
      @Hospey 3 года назад +2

      Because they are hacking

    • @XMrRex
      @XMrRex 3 года назад +4

      Theres over 100k hackers in this game (extremely modest estimate based only on the sales we can confirm) so obviously theres a high chance of someone hacking. The blatant ones are easily found but most of the subtle ones are next to impossible.

    • @ΑΝΙΚΙ
      @ΑΝΙΚΙ 3 года назад +3

      Don't be ignorant. A lot of people are hacking or using a Cronus Zen because the games have no anti-cheat.

    • @urekmazino9999
      @urekmazino9999 3 года назад +2

      @andrew evolution now real hackers will start to use this killcam story as excuse . Bet lol

    • @Baer1990
      @Baer1990 3 года назад

      when you are a streamer you have an audience, if you are wrong you can spread hate very easy
      but you are very right lol

  • @Nevarez257
    @Nevarez257 3 года назад +22

    He probably also has independent fov. You can see the blue sign closer to him on the right perspective. Not sure I could be wrong. Aiming on independent fov is much more different than affected fov

    • @soversetile
      @soversetile 3 года назад

      Care to explain?

    • @Artixtra
      @Artixtra 3 года назад

      @@soversetile idk how to explain it but they're settings that make you aim differently depending on your Field of view

  • @RealAzK
    @RealAzK 3 года назад +17

    Actual video title: "Pro players" get shit on by stats nerd when there's no cheaters in their party.

  • @boggs4896
    @boggs4896 3 года назад +1

    PREACH, brother!
    I knew that killcams were a reconstruction already, with all the possibilities of jank that entails, but this just really drives it home. I really wish this stuff was more widely known, cause 90% of people (including top streamers, as we see here) seem to think its like high speed forensic footage that proves cheating, real-time SBMM, etc. Like can you imagine how much more the servers would be chugging if they had to STREAM and RECORD actual video from every client just in case someone gets killed, and then stream that BACK to the player who gets killed??

  • @Luke-Godzilla
    @Luke-Godzilla 3 года назад +34

    Now this is going to be an interesting video!

  • @vd01
    @vd01 3 года назад +11

    Watched this live. They were livid at first but chilled out once they saw your POV. Good stuff as always.

    • @helforsite3130
      @helforsite3130 3 года назад +7

      And I really don't get it, they would have hit the same shots if the shoe was on the other foot, so all this suspicion really seems like they don't encounter enough good players in their games.

    • @AtE1600
      @AtE1600 3 года назад +1

      @@helforsite3130 it’s not that he hit his shots, it’s how quick and snappy that first mk2 shot was

  • @DonovanAenslaed
    @DonovanAenslaed 3 года назад +138

    LMAO streamer gets killed, crying ensues

    • @helforsite3130
      @helforsite3130 3 года назад +14

      Yep, classic streamer syndrome.

    • @ExOTiC1234
      @ExOTiC1234 3 года назад +12

      @@helforsite3130 The gulag clip was hilarious because deep down he knew it didnt look suspicious at all and that he just got shit on but still he had to cling on to the only excuse he has.

    • @dangerdan2592
      @dangerdan2592 3 года назад +1

      @Cameron Belanger The gulag clip didn't really look that bad from either pov. The first clip I can understand, but the second I really don't. I guess it's because they already thought he was hacking.

    • @xdmemes5821
      @xdmemes5821 3 года назад

      No that first one I would’ve insta reported

  • @clifcorcoran9917
    @clifcorcoran9917 3 года назад +2

    This was highly informative. Thanks for the hard work!

  • @jakelee7083
    @jakelee7083 3 года назад +3

    "Let's play this slow-mo, *real fast."*
    Love it

  • @reapingsciguy9947
    @reapingsciguy9947 3 года назад +16

    Pros: you're cheating!
    TGD: well actually here's why you're wrong with empirical evidence. BTW you guys are better than me.
    You do God's work.

  • @Masaaki_Taba
    @Masaaki_Taba 3 года назад +3

    They cannot beat stats and facts! Lol I love how Ton said "That guy was good" Never disappointed Stat Lord. Keep it up.
    Their reactions are understandable.
    I think you will collaborate with all these big streamers SOON!

  • @thydevdom
    @thydevdom 3 года назад +1

    What makes this worse is that there are SO many hackers (blown out of proportion at times, but still) that it’s hard to not call a club a spade.

  • @BeefGeneral
    @BeefGeneral 3 года назад +1

    Dude your videos and information are constantly changing the whole community. Seriously good work man!

  • @imalsoTOMATO
    @imalsoTOMATO 3 года назад +18

    Second one didn't even look that sus in general these guys just seem salty, first one kinda looked you had some external aim help but again I would have been more suspicious if you were tracking through the wall or something like that. I was expecting answers for people tracking through the wall and shit but I'm glad I know this nonetheless, I hope they upgrade the tick rate to 60 or 70hz someday though. 90 or 120hz is ideal but I don't know if it's possible.

    • @popparock6506
      @popparock6506 3 года назад

      He 100% has aimbot, set range real low 1-5 to lock prob, it locked to the head and stayed put.. he's just trying to pull the wool over the eyes of his regular viewers. From the comment sections, he's done quite well LOL

  • @HYEonDEATHROW
    @HYEonDEATHROW 3 года назад +5

    Because they are hacking. Ok, now I’ll watch the video.

  • @SlitherSlither
    @SlitherSlither 3 года назад

    After dying my reactions are usually "I'm so bad" or "WTF that HAD to be hacking". I guess there's no need to look at kill cams and default to I'm so fucking bad now...
    Great, great, great and informational video. This should be linked on next game update notes!

  • @petercraveiro9034
    @petercraveiro9034 3 года назад

    I really miss the Beta days.. the game sounded more clean without bugs, glitches, less cheaters, decent weapon balancing (except the grau)
    I'm really glad to have subscribed to your channel, as others mentioned, you are really humble in comparison to others and you keep it simple and precise, not begging for any attention, just sharing great intel (and not posting ridiculous 'astonished faces' thumbnails as others streamers).
    So thank you for this video! I really enjoyed it!

  • @J86237
    @J86237 3 года назад +5

    Damn... it’s heartbreaking to watch them accuse you like that. I really hope they both have the opportunity to watch this video. Impressive work as always, thank you for sharing!

  • @chrisdotdash5154
    @chrisdotdash5154 3 года назад +5

    Didn't know I needed this, but I realized that I do. Awesome vid.

  • @tomtenak4967
    @tomtenak4967 3 года назад

    I slowed it down even more. It looks a LOT more flicky on the killcam then in actual time on your screen. Thank you for clearing this up and giving me motivation to play again

  • @ccchicken8889
    @ccchicken8889 3 года назад +1

    As a long time COD player, I find it kinda surprising that a discussion is being had about kill cams looking off. COD has always been funky like that.
    It's so hard to judge anything from them, and it's why I try to treat the game as casually as I can.

  • @samsdemo
    @samsdemo 3 года назад +15

    this vid would help clear up a LOT of misunderstandings

  • @Mrowlatemymetaworm
    @Mrowlatemymetaworm 3 года назад +18

    Oh boy, I am so ready for this. I will now be much more forgiving in looking at killcams. Thank you TonE. Doing the Lords work #TonE3:13

  • @jarnea.7988
    @jarnea.7988 3 года назад +2

    This is a really cool video, i really hope those guys see this. Besides that hope to see some other great content from you in the future

  • @djbarszcz
    @djbarszcz 3 года назад

    Great video as always! This last Twitch Rivals tournament is The Perfect opportunity to check this! You have stored all off the perspectives from all players!

  • @zantetsukenkidd
    @zantetsukenkidd 3 года назад +8

    Everyone that watches this needs to tell a friend. This is the kind of eye opening stuff the community needs to see.

  • @FrostPhoenix_
    @FrostPhoenix_ 3 года назад +11

    That new intro is good!

  • @therantingboy
    @therantingboy 3 года назад +2

    It often seems like when a really good player gets killed, they say the person is hacking to save face and because they can't believe anyone could kill them

  • @HazyChris_1
    @HazyChris_1 2 года назад

    This video needs more attention. So many people think other people are cheating based off of just the killcam. I have a teammate who thinks so many people are cheating when they are not.

  • @KapnKuTT
    @KapnKuTT 3 года назад +5

    Hmm would this also affect the spectator mode? Sometimes when we got killed and the Killcam looked Sus, we spectated the player and some shoots looked normal and others looked like they snap and track the target for a moment. Our group made theories about aimbot that can be activated and deacivated. But now I think it could actually be that the spectator mode also transmits limited information.
    If this is true it makes the game look more infected by cheaters than it is (to a degree).

  • @jcasto7343
    @jcasto7343 3 года назад +6

    Really didn't even look that sus...

  • @bhando6201
    @bhando6201 3 года назад +1

    I believe latency also plays a larger role than most people think. I remember when I used to play FPS games during LAN party's and then playing the game on Multiplayer with the same friends, but the skill level players seemed to change between the 2 scenarios. That one shot you had in the gulag that made you win, could have been just because of latency. When playing at such a high skill level its hard to know how input lag, screen response time, and server latency can affect outcomes.

  • @DaPredz
    @DaPredz 3 года назад

    Jesus. Is anybody else amazed at the depth that this guy goes into the game to provide information for the cod community. Thank you TGD.

  • @joewallace9030
    @joewallace9030 3 года назад +50

    Really going out of your way to cover your tracks here, aren't you? WE'RE ONTO YOU TONY!

    • @140nonickname
      @140nonickname 3 года назад +11

      the second most elaborate way to get out of a cheating scandal if only he hired someone with a Harvard PHD to confirm his findings!

    • @SUPADUDE4070
      @SUPADUDE4070 3 года назад +4

      Lol. But Symphuny is def hacking sometimes

    • @sauron1414
      @sauron1414 3 года назад

      @@SUPADUDE4070 my ass

    • @whiiffed9002
      @whiiffed9002 3 года назад +1

      @@SUPADUDE4070 How are you still getting baited after so long

  • @honeyrouxwhryyy4590
    @honeyrouxwhryyy4590 3 года назад +7

    imagining being called as hacker by a controller user aka wheelchair user.

    • @mattwillerton6775
      @mattwillerton6775 3 года назад +3

      Imagine thinking you're better cos you use M&K

    • @honeyrouxwhryyy4590
      @honeyrouxwhryyy4590 3 года назад +3

      @@mattwillerton6775 lmao i dont have to think, aimming asistant= disable people on wheelchair. thats all

    • @mattwillerton6775
      @mattwillerton6775 3 года назад +3

      @@honeyrouxwhryyy4590 pahahaha okay buddy, you know PC players like yourself are basically the gaming equivelant of Vegans, having such a big superiority complex over what you use to waste time with is mad

    • @honeyrouxwhryyy4590
      @honeyrouxwhryyy4590 3 года назад +2

      @@mattwillerton6775 aren't you writting a "such a big superiority complex sentence" here? is it that hard to admit you are the disable people must using aimming assistance?

    • @mattwillerton6775
      @mattwillerton6775 3 года назад

      @@honeyrouxwhryyy4590 Yeah bro, I'm super disabled, really got me here damn, I really don't know how I'm going to recover after such a witty insult.

  • @r.j.bedore9884
    @r.j.bedore9884 3 года назад +1

    I always wondered why people on kill cams looked like they were moving far faster than I ever am able to.

  • @gericon2855
    @gericon2855 3 года назад

    Ok, this was bothering me since the original 2007 Modern Warfare! And now I know the reason why the killcam looks shady sometimes. I always thought it was a real active replay we see in the cam, and I never considered it being an on-the-fly recreation of the situation via information grabbed from the server. That would also explain why sometimes there is no killcam due to packet loss or other occurences. You sir, have calmed my 12 year old me with this video. Thank you! :D

  • @SergeantSam3D
    @SergeantSam3D 3 года назад +3

    this comes out right after the twitch rivals debacle :o

  • @p_mcg
    @p_mcg 3 года назад +17

    The main problem is people can't take an L. They jump straight to the hackusations

  • @michaelbass8199
    @michaelbass8199 3 года назад +1

    Literally got an invite the other day to a regiment called “you sus bro” after I got a head shot off on someone. I have a .34 KD lmao.... the problem with the hacking is it’s made everyone paranoid if everyone

  • @X2Chimera
    @X2Chimera 3 года назад

    Makes 100% sense this is how the Death Cams work - helps alleviate rage knowing this.

  • @deathstramy7272
    @deathstramy7272 3 года назад +6

    Honestly even if you were hacking id still watch you've helped me out so much

  • @mash2481
    @mash2481 3 года назад +5

    Seems like everyone, that’s get killed, always claims the guy is hacking. Lol!!

    • @vocorus598
      @vocorus598 3 года назад

      Everyone worse than you is a scrub.
      Everyone better than you is a cheater.
      :p

  • @elaborateboobies9017
    @elaborateboobies9017 3 года назад

    Honestly, I needed to see this. I quit warzone because of all the hackers, but I may have been wrong about a lot of them. This gives me a new perspective on the game and maybe I'll get back into it and enjoy the game again. Also, shoutout to you for being a modest content creator, this is the first video I have watched from you but I am going to sub and expect great things from you man!

  • @lukethevegan
    @lukethevegan 3 года назад

    TrueGameData just casually shitting on pros, absolute king 👑

  • @Hospey
    @Hospey 3 года назад +24

    This doesn’t however explain people locking into guys during their own streams from their own POV’s... Metzy situation still sus asf to me

    • @IvanRodriguez-zl2eg
      @IvanRodriguez-zl2eg 3 года назад +5

      This explanation is just on killcams, this does not apply to streams.

    • @JM-cl7cm
      @JM-cl7cm 3 года назад

      I think with Metzy, he might be taking Adderall. The only clip sus, imo, was that Alcatraz one. All the other clips are explainable. But that Alcatraz one he's just super super cracked.
      So, here's my problem with that, if we are really going to go so far as taking 1 clip and being convinced without a shadow of a doubt that he's hacking, then what about all the other pros? Do you realize how many times they do something sus? These guys are the top 1%. Watch Joe Wo, or Zlaner, they are always pulling some stupid stuff

    • @IvanRodriguez-zl2eg
      @IvanRodriguez-zl2eg 3 года назад

      @@JM-cl7cm Some people are very good at adjusting cheats and also trying to play like they are not cheating. You can asjust your ainbot and tone it down so it does not look so obvious, but as you could see on that clip, the movement and lock it is not human movement, controller or mouse, that type of snap and lock is from aimbot.

    • @JM-cl7cm
      @JM-cl7cm 3 года назад

      @@IvanRodriguez-zl2eg bro I don't disagree it's weird. Im arguing it's only 1 clip. Look at sym twitter just today, he posted a clip of a ridiculous wallbang. Do we bring out pitchforks on the guy?

    • @IvanRodriguez-zl2eg
      @IvanRodriguez-zl2eg 3 года назад

      @@JM-cl7cm Bro. You have to understand this people are making hundreds of thousands, they need to fool and overexagerate their skill, Symphuny hacks. Is he a bad player ? I dont think so, but he aint super human good like it appears and it is obvious he hacks. Use dr disrespect as an example, the dude is good, but he doesnt hack. Watch him miss shots, watch how he flicks, and watch how many times he gets caught by people that are hiding in a corner just because he is unaware and playing legit. Now go back to Sym, and watch how the mf always seems to know where everybody is, and watch how he LOCKS his aim at targets even at ridiculous distances. It is warzone, and 150 players are dropping in a HUGE map, with a million windows , corners and doors and a thousand rooftops. It doesnt matter how good you are, you cant possibly know where everybody is or can possibly be in a BR game. Watch closely and compare players.

  • @adam.md7183
    @adam.md7183 3 года назад +6

    How can they think you're hacking when seeing your name

    • @MegaDAli95
      @MegaDAli95 3 года назад +1

      They probably don’t know him since he’s relatively new, but I imagine they will soon enough.

    • @hockeymad1233
      @hockeymad1233 3 года назад +1

      A lot of people hack using the same or similar names to big streamers also

  • @redthunder238
    @redthunder238 3 года назад

    Your website is exactly what I've been looking for. Great stuff, man.

  • @jeffphilp7430
    @jeffphilp7430 3 года назад

    Brilliant video, really informative and very helpful to understand how kill cams work and why they can easily lead to wrong conclusions, I think I might need to unblock a few players. By the way you absolutely SMOKED those two 'amateurs', respect.

  • @ohwaterbear3969
    @ohwaterbear3969 3 года назад +14

    I really really hope they apologized... how can they cry so loud even after seeing your name! It’s not like you were some random. Duhhh. :(

    • @helforsite3130
      @helforsite3130 3 года назад +8

      And they should be used to randoms being on their skill level and hitting those shots, since atleast theoretically their lobbies should be close to their skill level.

    • @kinmaul160
      @kinmaul160 3 года назад +2

      It was a heat of the moment comment in the middle of the game. They also probably had no idea it was actually him. Am I missing the social media witch hunt? If so please provide links. You got a live action response to a suspicious kill cam. He didn't post this video to call them out so let's not turn this into that.

    • @fedewoo6432
      @fedewoo6432 3 года назад +2

      i guess they expected some bot, lets be honest most streamers play noob servers

  • @RikkiTikkiTavi290
    @RikkiTikkiTavi290 3 года назад +5

    Streamers just think nobody can beat them legitimately, its sad.

    • @Flartz
      @Flartz 3 года назад

      shouldn't generalize everybody into 1 category based on their job

  • @Mikerich_94
    @Mikerich_94 3 года назад

    Very informative and great demonstration. I am tired of hearing every enemy is hacking when they aren’t 😂

  • @chukfunk
    @chukfunk 3 года назад

    You’re better than you say. Keep it up. I’m only right about half the time when I snap yell “hacker”!!! Then my teammates kill them, “oh never mind”

  • @xenondestiny
    @xenondestiny 3 года назад +6

    All of this wouldn't be as big of a problem if we just had an anti-cheat...

    • @tyleryoungman50
      @tyleryoungman50 3 года назад +3

      If only a multi million dollar company could afford it

  • @JohnSmith-ks3qk
    @JohnSmith-ks3qk 3 года назад +3

    If they thought you were hacking from that clip they are just salty

    • @DerekF-u7e
      @DerekF-u7e 3 года назад +1

      Yeah was going to say the same thing, he seemed so convinced it was a hacker. Absolute saltiness from guys who just don't like it when someone gets the better of them. Did it look a little sus in the killcam? Sure, but it could easily have just been a good first shot and you can clearly see a couple shots missed immediately after so it's not like he aimbotted his head through a wall or something.

  • @ktotheitothembex
    @ktotheitothembex 3 года назад +1

    That TeePee guy cant be mad he lost, playing with that gum he looks like he cant be arsed being there lol

  • @Picahielos
    @Picahielos 3 года назад

    Once again, making content that everyone will use on their channel because
    THIS
    CHANNEL
    HAS
    THE
    BEST
    COD
    CONTENT

  • @Zstray17
    @Zstray17 3 года назад +4

    The lamest part is that people can’t even say the entire word “Suspicious”.
    Second to that is not really the snap kills but how inconsistent the bullet damage seems to be.

    • @walkie1985
      @walkie1985 3 года назад

      Sus really bothers you?

    • @mysticxiiii
      @mysticxiiii 3 года назад

      Sus is considerably faster to type for people attempting expedience and EVERYONE understands. I dont see an issue here. 😂

  • @RealCazTv
    @RealCazTv 3 года назад +3

    Stop with the whole "I'm not trying to show off" shit....ypubwere accused of havking you have every right to show ur clips and theories...the hell with what everyone else thinks..we all know cod does some weird stuff that's why everyone who dies by someones lucky shot or someone better in general automatically assume "hacker"

  • @preacherauron1699
    @preacherauron1699 3 года назад

    This video needs to be shared ad nauseum. I wonder how many people have been reported for hacking that weren't.

  • @cellar-door
    @cellar-door 3 года назад

    Props for this. All the unsubstantiated accusations from streamers and their stans are getting pretty ridiculous at this point.

  • @ruffrider2626
    @ruffrider2626 3 года назад

    I'm glad you put this together. It gets old hearing everyone is a hacker.

  • @t2rmartin
    @t2rmartin 3 года назад

    I think maybe a reason the in game kill cam looks jerky could be the fact there is more to load (more players, more assets, etc.) from the server as compared to when in the gulag. And like you said the kill cam has to be reconstructed which is more taxing on the server with more things to load in. this could cause a higher likelihood of packet loss too. Great video.

  • @AgostinoManea
    @AgostinoManea 3 года назад

    The problem in not addressing the cheater plague is that you end Ip living in constant suspect. Good job as usual in analizing the actual data

  • @nickNcar
    @nickNcar 3 года назад

    Glad you made this video. I knew there was no way EVERY lobby I was in had hackers....most lobbies have had hackers recently though getting shit through walls and people tracking me behind mountains

  • @Iamkaden
    @Iamkaden 3 года назад

    Another thing to note is that when there's less players in a lobby, the server tick rate might go higher, thus making things look smoother and make more sense. The server load isn't as high, so the tick rate can be higher.

  • @curticemccarthyiv7545
    @curticemccarthyiv7545 3 года назад

    Bro, this was a great bit of info! Thank you for taking the time to do this for us all

  • @EoPArceye
    @EoPArceye 3 года назад

    This confirms what I have been saying for years in all games, Kill cams do not ever represent what actually happened. The problem is there are so many sore losers who need to blame something other than themselves or bad luck for a loss they accuse everyone who kills them of hacking. The hacking problem in this game is not even close to what people think. Most of it is down to connections and the server update rate of 50ms (20tick) in the case of warzone

  • @42sgill
    @42sgill 3 года назад

    When I lay in bed, I think about how I want a snack...
    Tony thinks about killcam play speed and killcam server tick rates. Love it. Keep up the good work.

  • @BoogieWithDuggi
    @BoogieWithDuggi 3 года назад

    Actual competent research, loved this video. Subbed and liked my man. Well done and GG

  • @alexshapsenzon254
    @alexshapsenzon254 Год назад

    I been called a hacker all the time, playing COD at 200+fps, with a high end mouse, 4k kHz, and I can hear em yelling in the lobby after.

  • @1ManBlesssed
    @1ManBlesssed 3 года назад +1

    I love this dude's "I'm not here to impress you" attitude. Very refreshing.

    • @drinkingmicstand
      @drinkingmicstand 3 года назад

      I get a “I’m not trying to impress you” attitude but ye I love it too

  • @MoH_Dank
    @MoH_Dank 3 года назад

    Your into is 10/10! I love the channel and the website is amazing. Activision really needs someone like you on payroll to make the game 100x better!

  • @irshaadjaffer2033
    @irshaadjaffer2033 3 года назад

    this video needs to be seen by all streamers and pros. this was a very insightful very video

  • @alessandrofilippetti
    @alessandrofilippetti 3 года назад

    Super interesting video, it came to my mind many times that the kill Cams in wz could be speed up. Thank you for confirming this! One of the things I was also thinking is that there is something strange with the frame rate that they are shown: it almost looks like each couple of seconds it skips a frame or two, that's probably what makes the aim look so snappy

  • @PowerALTube
    @PowerALTube 3 года назад

    I think it's more a health thing that would explain the speed up. You have more plates in warzone so the TTK is longer. You need the kill cam to show a full representation of the fight and most people miss a fair number of shots. So it makes sense to speed it up a bit to get a fuller perspective on the fight. 150% more health, 33% faster.