Hello…great video on Holyoke …I was born in Holyoke in 1958…grew up in the area and lived in Chicopee, right next to Holyoke. We now live a stones throw from Mountain Holyoke College.
I was born there & lived 2 miles from Mt Holyoke College! Great place to take photos in the Fall! People come to photograph it from all over the world! I loved living there! Good for you!
Ive lived here now for about six years. Moved here to the Elmwood area from the mountains close to Asheville NC. Sitting here watching and thinking to myself, Yea, so THATS what it use to look like. Happy to be here now though. Holyoke is my home now.
Back in the 70s Holyoke was known as the fire capital of United States. I was a kid growing up in that era and there was at least 2 major fires a week if not more . It became such a constant thing everyone was scared but also anticipating where the next blaze would be. I had some friends from either school or my neighborhood who died in some of these incidents, very tragic.
True! My dad was a firefighter then & we never knew if he’d live through that horrible Summer when they were burning down Holyoke for the insurance $! A lot of young children died in those fires...all for the money & set by kids paid to do so! Very sad. Horrible for everyone except those ripping off the insurance co‘s.
@@Nick-gq2iy your exactly right. As I got older, late teens some of the people in my friends crowd were some that were responsible or knew very well the ones responsible for these arsons. Absolutely terrible, all for the money 😢🤬
@@franceswellinger2817 WOW! Insanity! My dad was so distraught about finding so many children in those fires. I don’t know how those firefighters didn’t lose their minds! There were some firefighters who lost their lives fighting those fires! Horrible times! 🥵😡
Thank you! I’ve never seen the old Holyoke High School! My mom attended this & her siblings! She graduated in 1942, her oldest sibling, in 1927! Imagine that?! They were old enough to be my grand & great grand parents! I had not seen the opera house, either, except on a commemorative plate for Holyoke being the first planned industrial city in America. It’s GORGEOUS! I’m sure my great aunts & uncles knew of it, but I don’t know that they could afford going to one! (They were born in the late 1800’s!) What you think is an old factory building on the canals, is the look of ivy climbing up the building! 😉 I remember Scott Tower! They made it much smaller. My friends & I would climb up there at night! It seemed in an odd place! I never knew the history of it! Thanks! Great photos! 🙏🏼 Oh, one of Mr. Holyoke‘s daughters loved the city so much, that she went to France to build a replica of this one, also, named, “Holyoke!” It’s in an old book I bought about the beginnings of Holyoke...it’s about 57 years old. I never could find more about what name replaced that city in France.
I enjoyed watching this post. I am from Holyoke, and my family has been here for 5-6 generations. My 3rd great grandfather founded and operated a paper business which was still operating into the 1980’s on Dwight Street in Holyoke (amoung other locations over the decades). My mother and her sisters all worked for his company in the 1950’s and 60’s when my grandfather and his two brothers were operating his company. He was also the Chief of Police, Then the Mayor of Holyoke, then a State Senator for Holyoke, and then became the Police Chief again🤣🤣 He made his fortune in the paper business in Holyoke (none of which made it down to me😓🤣🤣) Holyoke is an amazing and historic industrial city designed to do what it did, make great paper fast and efficiently to satisfy the world appetite for paper products, and its well worth exploring its rich history and beautiful architecture, and I thank you for making this post🙏👍😁
My friend, Shelley Small, an archeologist, did a study on the old world brick work in New England. Slate work also. Remarkable. My people settled Leverett.
I was born and raised in Holyoke, this should be interesting. All I know when I was born in the 60s till now, Wow, what a change, and not for the better. Just saying
I agree it's so sad what it has become I too was born and raised in Holyoke.around the same time.i left for awhile came back and couldn't believe how bad it is now
Even the trees look mature next to the college...crazy how that huge building was built right next to the water.....thanks for the link to the free energy research.....I am going to check that out for sure :)....love that rail car lift up the hill too...and weird to think castles were here in the states....I don't think I remember growing up and any castles were featured in anything in school! Unreal!
While my mom worked at city hall I would sneak around the building and I found small jail cells full of paper work I thought it was so weird I never continued looking around because I didn’t want to get her in trouble but I loved finding new things lol Thanks for the video
I was in there a couple years ago & I went to get my birth certificate & I snuck up the stairs to take a look at the old ballroom, see the old chandelier, etc. Inside architecture was remarkable! Things needed fixing, like the stained-glass windows, and other things, why it was blocked off, but I LOVE that architecture & couldn’t resist! I hadn’t been for a tour since the early 1970‘s with the Girl Scouts! I had an hour till I was picked up! It was fun snooping! Too bad more doors were locked! I noticed some of the furniture was huge, like the desk to sign in before entering the ballroom! That was a fun day!
@2:00 that is the beautiful Summit House on Mt Tom, before a fire burned it down. The Elizur Holyoke cable car was going up to the Summit House on Mt Tom! It was also the name of a pub that recently closed after many, many years! There were cable cars to bring people to the top! I have an old booklet on this! They did a lot of these amazing things! (There’s a Summit House in So. Hadley, as well! You can still go up there & it was being renovated in 2006...maybe only part of it. There is a big wraparound porch & you could see other mountains! It’s a great hiking spot & picnic are!) There are few remnants hanging around...one partial wall of the Mt Tom Summit House. I used to hike up there years ago!
I enjoy the way you deconstruct those construction photos, like a sideways stonemason. You don't put the cart before the horse, or even startle the horse too much. Positive waves, man.
I've lived in MASS most of my life and this is every small city , pick one. They were all this grand at one time in New England. the nicer the city was the bigger shit hole they turned it into today. Someone blocked all the water flowing through these little towns and cities. Filled in the moats and canals , that was the start of the death nail for the cities . I remember the old folk talking about stuff like that and what a shame it was. They said there goes the clean, fresh water. And that is exactly what happened. Some even told of glowing emerald gobble stone streets as dusk set in. They told of how the cities were powered differently. From my experience most of the old males knew there was a grid that got cut off or out , where I grew up. They knew it only meant bad news for the citizens. New England makes me feel so sad. Like a part of my family died, that's how I honestly feel about my growing up in MASS. My heart so heavily weighs. I do mourn, I do.
Wow that term “planned industrial city” at the start stuck out to me.. supposedly means a city carefully planned on previously undeveloped land.. rrrrrrright
Do you have any videos on Rochester, NY? there might be something interesting there, it was supposedly going to be called "the American Venice" because of the aqueduct system, it had a metro in the 1950s, now abandoned... maybe worth your time
WOW ! Wow Wow ! Did you see it ? That monster building @ 2:01 ... I am amazed at what these guys have built, having been a contractor myself for a while and I look at them from that perspective. Look at the openings on the 2nd level. The open to the world like giant shades ! And it looks like when the shade is up completely, a balcony is extended out maybe 8' ? Damn, I sure would like to have been able to experience these structures in full glory, or have a better remembrance for them. No kids, we didn't build them, the gods did the last time they stopped by and threw a little party for 1000 yrs.
actually from my understanding, all old photos had to be doctored or edited in some way. yes, they had to be. and they were almost always doctored beyond what had to be done. portraits were always edited to make the person more attractive. and buildings etc often had penciled in aspects. often the people seem to be drawn in. i can se a lot of drawing going on in these old photos. yes even the black and white civil war era photos were highly edited. even ones of the presidents. they would even combine one dudes body with anothers head. they are often completely deceptive, complete fabrications. u cant trust old photos at all. u can trust modern photos much more and often it is easy to tell if they have been photoshopped. the old world photoshoping is often completely undetectable , theres no warping etc. but people dont know that photoshoping has been a part of photography from the begining. it seems even photoshopping was superior in the old world.
I do remember that in the early 1960‘s when I was born, my baby photos from the studios were a bit doctored. Colored photos were often doctored, as my eyes were colored more blue than they actually are & mine & my mother‘s lips were tinted more red than my father‘s. Color was new in the studios for portraits. At least that is my experience with my family’s photos. The black & white photos of weddings in the 1920‘s to 1950‘s were BEAUTIFUL! I have 1 photo that has a silent movie on a billboard behind 1 of my great aunts sitting in front of it on a guardrail from between 1911 to 1919. She was born in the late 1800‘s!
Mass-achoo-setts ... I like the way you pronounce it better bud lol . I can't believe I haven't seen this exploration yet ! Cheers for covering some of my state bud .
I always thoroughly enjoy your research and video presentations and appreciate the amount of work you put into finding those more obscure pictures that truly show how impractical some of their narratives truly are. Thank you. 💯⛪🕌🛕🕍
They destroyed so much of the old world during the last reset and built the trash we have today. It makes me wonder what crap they're going to replace this trash with during the current reset.
Paper City! Known for making all kinds of paper, notebooks, etc. in those old buildings! Neighbors of mine worked in them, with relatives! We used the canals in the flats before I was born. I wish we still used water power! To think of all those turbines Tesla built in Niagara & how they had so much of Niagara Falls going off to different directions for running each shop on the lower end in the US & in a plant on the Canadian side! All those turbines are still there, lying dormant & the businesses down low, all torn down. (I saw a video of them still there! Really cool to see!). I think the smoke stacks burned coal at that time. To build canals & buildings on them, they’d sometimes float logs down the waterways. Easier! The Wm Whiting Coal Co! Interesting! There was a Wm Whiting Lodge, I believe. Probably a Masonic Lodge. Kenilworth Castle has a dark past & was demolished. There was another place I remember begging my father to take me to castle ruins as a four-year old. He never did. Nor did I ever get to see Kenilworth! Initially the dams were made of wood! That might explain the newer rock used. I should see if I still have that book about the beginnings of the City of Holyoke! It might have a lot of goodies in there! Also on Holyoke St where cable cars ran, to another city...Westfield...it’s all woods, as far as I know, but I went riding on a rec vehicle in the 1980’s & we had found this HUGE stone-slab fireplace in the middle of nowhere! It was gorgeous & obviously there had been a massive structure there! Friends had found many, many arrowheads in what we then called, West Holyoke, near Hampton Ponds & in the mountains & right in some yards! There were also ditches, used my military in wars before the 1960’s, for training...but I wonder if they were there for Indian wars...they were like deep pits, almost like small open air prisons & you’d need a ladder to get out! So...that was odd! This was in the section called Rock Valley, way out in the fields, long forgotten! I still could find it, if houses haven’t been put up.
Trucking of materials would have been a nightmare performed by an Amy sized fleet since modern Semi Trucks allowed to weigh 80k Gross vehicle weight and up from there based on axels and trailer types but 80K the absolute norm. They didn’t have the vehicles or HP to haul in all the granite cut stone etc.
@1:33, What is that building? So many old world cities have a similar building; sort of 3-sided with a rounded facade. (Like the one at Times Square, NY). We have one here in Santa Cruz, California. I'm really curious about the shape of the building (wouldn't a rectangular building be easier to construct), and also the structure at the top of the building. (I hope that was clear enough)
the same building shows up at 7:30...they're calling it the General Offices of the American Writing Paper CO. Yes much easier to build and finish squares and rectangles. In my estimation, you wouldn't build like this unless you understand and value the placement of infrastructure so much that you are willing to build around a desired plan...and you'd have to be confident in your ability to build to conform to the flow of the streets. You'll see it a lot in Europe, where the street bends and the buildings bend with it.
we have one in Burbank CA as well. Flat irons we have named them, every city seems to have one, or did have one . you know, someone tares down a lot of stuff.
That building no longer exists today😓 it used to occupy the inside land at a “Y” in the road that still exists. To the right of the building is Race Street, and the left side is Main Street. Race Street runs directly alongside the “lower canal” and originally ran appx 9 blocks in a North-South orientation all the way across downtown Holyoke to meet back up to main street at another “Y” in the road in the “Springdale” neighborhood of Holyoke👍😁
Very very well done!!!!!! Btw, it's mass uh CHEW setts... You do a very good job brother.. honestly I could see these pictures all day, no matter if the city is big or small...but there is something to be said about these cities with anything less than a 100 or 75,000 when they are so built out like this! Holyoke is a sad sad sad places now a days, very drug ridden. Same with a lot of the smaller ones, so when you show how built out and beautiful they looked it's just all that more damning against the main stream narrative.
I live in Holyoke and it's not what it used to be. Drugs prostitution and gang are what's going on in downtown Holyoke now. All of the mills are closed 😪 not the place to be. The out skirts are nice but downtown is f up bad.
Seems every immigrant story starts with, so and so arrived with 2 nickels... And the town turned that into 10 churches, county court house, 3 libraries, 2 universities, high schools, electric trams, cabals, bridges, and of course the post office. Way to stretch a couple nickles county comptroller, haha.
Actually, Holyoke was the paper manufacturing capital of the world. Holyoke was designed and planned out to be the center of paper manufacturing in the United States…. And it happily occupied that purpose for decades. Holyoke, back then, was an area filled with wealthy people associated with the paper industry. The canals engineered into the city were put there to power the paper industry cheaply and reliably…. And the whole idea payed off many times over for the city. Its all that wealth that built all of that city that you see in these pictures. Holyoke was a place flush with cash at the turn of the 20th century. My 3rd great grandfather was the mayor of Holyoke, a state senator representing the Holyoke Area, as well as the Police Chief of Holyoke, and owned a paper business as well. Some of the world’s finest papers and even money paper were manufactured here in the past. Holyoke used to be a big deal in industry👍😁
I think Ive watched your videos n for you to come and talk about a place where I grew up things have changed others things still exist witch is mind boggling when you think about it and you talk about the old world Tesla the building type that church that you were talking how tall it was the art and Craftsman'ship that they came up with that church at time 16 11 that Church is down the street, different from from the picture, but yes there is a Natural energy system I believe the old world had n Tesla knew about it n who was it jp morgan and thomas edison it was over control and money Tesla wanted free energy,I can talk about all the conspiracy that really make since all day long
Wow I don't if it's the guy who made the video but it's nice to see someone highlight a comment with the wrong information even though my comment/reply came with the actual websites for locations that prove what I said was correct and not only that my comments with the attached proof keeps getting erased. Real nice. And to think I extended an invitation of a guided tour of the cities and towns because you seemed interested in history and the area I have lived my enire life in,but when my comment is ignored and erased despite the added proof I put in was ignored and erased while a person's comment with misinformation gets highlighted and special attention is sad. People are greatly mistaken when they say people from southern states are all nice clearly not true. It's not nice to erase comments with correct info and highlight the comment with incorrect info.
The summit house is located in south hadley and Hadley not holyoke. The same goes for Mt Holyoke college. Now I will teach you how to say my states name. Pronounced Mass- a- choo sets. Fun fact Abraham Lincoln stayed at sumit house. Those weren't breweries they were paper mills. Holyoke is referred to as paper city. Its paper factories were built along the man made canal or the Connecticut river. A large amount of those old factories have, unfortunately, recently been torn down. The building on the CT river you mentioned I'm pretty sure is the shad lift. It's open to the public and a really neat place to visit. You should visit sometime and see these places for yourself you could even visit Springfield another video and location you covered for my area of western MA where I have been born and raised. Would love to give you a tour of the area. Worcester is about an hour away via the MA pike another area you covered in your videos Im not from that areas but am from holyoke, Springfield area. My family's history heavily tied into this area of Massachusetts. Thanks for taking an interest in where I've been born and raised and if you ever visit with plans for updated videos a comparison of buildings that still exist from your original video I would be more than happy to show you around as I love history and historical buildings myself.
I live in Holyoke and have for almost all my life. I wanted to offer one correction to this comment. I believe the “Summit House” the video references in the MT TOM summit house, which is no longer there. The video referenced “castle ruins” with a stone foundation that was overgrown. I believe that is the foundation of the old MT TOM summit house. There were actually 3 different summit houses… the first burned down in 1900, the second burned down in 1929, and the third closed, and was eventually torn down and replaced with TV and RADIO transmission towers that stand on the old foundations today. There is another summit house on top of MT HOLYOKE in South Hadley/Hadley which still exists today and is open to the public as part of the Skinner State Park👍😁
@rickrick7528 yeah and I have lived in the area my entire life and actually went on a field trip as a child to the summit house and if you bothered to visit the place you would know its never been moved it's always been there AND IS NOT LOCATED IN HOLYOKE. Besides visiting the place to see the emptied area up the side of the mountain that was the tram ride to the hotel you find out yourself it's been on that location the whole time. Also if you took the time to actually educate yourself and do a little research you would find the websites for both locations. While eyrie house was a hotel located in holyoke that burnt down Summit house was never moved and definitely not the same place. Do research before you pop off trying to correct people, because you are most definitely mistaken. And go get your guided tour of summit house to educate yourself Besides checking the websites for both that will tell you they are 2 different locations. You would have saved yourself looking foolish had you done a little research. www.atlasobscura.com/places/eyrie-house-ruins www.barstowslongviewfarm.com/history-of-the-summit-house/
@rickrick7528 conviently my reply keeps getting erased. Your defiintely mistaken/wrong do some research visit summit house or maybe look it up on line. The place your referring to rick that burnt down is located in holyoke and was known as eyrie house, and is not summit house. Summit house is not located in holyoke never was and has been in the same location ALWAYS. I'm not going to bother to once again attch my proof as my comment keeps getting erased by someone who is clearly based. Im a history mut have lived in the holyoke south hadley chicopee and surrounding area my whole life. Born and raised actually. I unlike you went on a school field trip to summit house as a child where I learned Lincoln stayed there. If you had the same experience you would know summit house has always been there and is evident with the bald area up the side of the mountain where the tram used to be back in the day (evidence of it always having been in that location). Look up both places online and next time do research before you try to correct people as there's websites for both locations.
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I was born and raised In Holyoke. Thanks for the memories
From Gill, I worked at the Yankee Pedlar
Where about? I was born there too & raised in West Holyoke, 2 streets from Hampton Ponds. It is still a nice quiet place to live. - Cynthia E.
Hello…great video on Holyoke …I was born in Holyoke in 1958…grew up in the area and lived in Chicopee, right next to Holyoke. We now live a stones throw from Mountain Holyoke College.
I was born there & lived 2 miles from Mt Holyoke College! Great place to take photos in the Fall! People come to photograph it from all over the world! I loved living there! Good for you!
I was born in Holyoke Mass. Really loved this video. Thank you for taking the time to put this together.
thank you for taking the time to watch my video. Glad you enjoyed it...
Ive lived here now for about six years. Moved here to the Elmwood area from the mountains close to Asheville NC. Sitting here watching and thinking to myself, Yea, so THATS what it use to look like. Happy to be here now though. Holyoke is my home now.
Back in the 70s Holyoke was known as the fire capital of United States. I was a kid growing up in that era and there was at least 2 major fires a week if not more . It became such a constant thing everyone was scared but also anticipating where the next blaze would be. I had some friends from either school or my neighborhood who died in some of these incidents, very tragic.
True! My dad was a firefighter then & we never knew if he’d live through that horrible Summer when they were burning down Holyoke for the insurance $! A lot of young children died in those fires...all for the money & set by kids paid to do so! Very sad. Horrible for everyone except those ripping off the insurance co‘s.
@@Nick-gq2iy your exactly right. As I got older, late teens some of the people in my friends crowd were some that were responsible or knew very well the ones responsible for these arsons. Absolutely terrible, all for the money 😢🤬
@@franceswellinger2817 WOW! Insanity! My dad was so distraught about finding so many children in those fires. I don’t know how those firefighters didn’t lose their minds! There were some firefighters who lost their lives fighting those fires! Horrible times! 🥵😡
Mount Holyoke College is actually located in South Hadley
That's what I was about to say
Thank you! I’ve never seen the old Holyoke High School! My mom attended this & her siblings! She graduated in 1942, her oldest sibling, in 1927! Imagine that?! They were old enough to be my grand & great grand parents!
I had not seen the opera house, either, except on a commemorative plate for Holyoke being the first planned industrial city in America. It’s GORGEOUS! I’m sure my great aunts & uncles knew of it, but I don’t know that they could afford going to one! (They were born in the late 1800’s!)
What you think is an old factory building on the canals, is the look of ivy climbing up the building! 😉
I remember Scott Tower! They made it much smaller. My friends & I would climb up there at night! It seemed in an odd place! I never knew the history of it! Thanks! Great photos! 🙏🏼
Oh, one of Mr. Holyoke‘s daughters loved the city so much, that she went to France to build a replica of this one, also, named, “Holyoke!” It’s in an old book I bought about the beginnings of Holyoke...it’s about 57 years old. I never could find more about what name replaced that city in France.
Nice video. I like your focus on architectural detail. - you point out things I wouldn’t otherwise have noticed.
I enjoyed watching this post. I am from Holyoke, and my family has been here for 5-6 generations. My 3rd great grandfather founded and operated a paper business which was still operating into the 1980’s on Dwight Street in Holyoke (amoung other locations over the decades). My mother and her sisters all worked for his company in the 1950’s and 60’s when my grandfather and his two brothers were operating his company. He was also the Chief of Police, Then the Mayor of Holyoke, then a State Senator for Holyoke, and then became the Police Chief again🤣🤣 He made his fortune in the paper business in Holyoke (none of which made it down to me😓🤣🤣) Holyoke is an amazing and historic industrial city designed to do what it did, make great paper fast and efficiently to satisfy the world appetite for paper products, and its well worth exploring its rich history and beautiful architecture, and I thank you for making this post🙏👍😁
Dennison? National Blankbook? American Pad & Paper? American Writing Paper ? There were about 25 paper companies!
My friend, Shelley Small, an archeologist, did a study on the old world brick work in New England. Slate work also. Remarkable. My people settled Leverett.
I was born and raised in Holyoke, this should be interesting. All I know when I was born in the 60s till now, Wow, what a change, and not for the better. Just saying
I agree it's so sad what it has become I too was born and raised in Holyoke.around the same time.i left for awhile came back and couldn't believe how bad it is now
I was born and raised in Holyoke and never knew of the opera house. I going to have to research that.
Even the trees look mature next to the college...crazy how that huge building was built right next to the water.....thanks for the link to the free energy research.....I am going to check that out for sure :)....love that rail car lift up the hill too...and weird to think castles were here in the states....I don't think I remember growing up and any castles were featured in anything in school! Unreal!
I always enjoy your perspective Justina...
While my mom worked at city hall I would sneak around the building and I found small jail cells full of paper work
I thought it was so weird
I never continued looking around because I didn’t want to get her in trouble but I loved finding new things lol
Thanks for the video
I was in there a couple years ago & I went to get my birth certificate & I snuck up the stairs to take a look at the old ballroom, see the old chandelier, etc. Inside architecture was remarkable! Things needed fixing, like the stained-glass windows, and other things, why it was blocked off, but I LOVE that architecture & couldn’t resist! I hadn’t been for a tour since the early 1970‘s with the Girl Scouts! I had an hour till I was picked up! It was fun snooping! Too bad more doors were locked! I noticed some of the furniture was huge, like the desk to sign in before entering the ballroom! That was a fun day!
We pronounce the town's name as hul-Yoke. Nice work.
I don’t & I was born & raised there. 😅🤷🏻♀️
Your channel was referred by Mind Unveiled and I'm very happy about that. Much respect for your work
Welcome aboard!
@2:00 that is the beautiful Summit House on Mt Tom, before a fire burned it down. The Elizur Holyoke cable car was going up to the Summit House on Mt Tom! It was also the name of a pub that recently closed after many, many years! There were cable cars to bring people to the top! I have an old booklet on this! They did a lot of these amazing things! (There’s a Summit House in So. Hadley, as well! You can still go up there & it was being renovated in 2006...maybe only part of it. There is a big wraparound porch & you could see other mountains! It’s a great hiking spot & picnic are!)
There are few remnants hanging around...one partial wall of the Mt Tom Summit House. I used to hike up there years ago!
Excellent work, the castle looking formations are fascinating. At 16:30 that looks like the infamous Newport Tower though
you are correct...thanks for clarifying. I wasn't aware of the Newport Tower....I should have thrown it in my Marble House vid.
I enjoy the way you deconstruct those construction photos, like a sideways stonemason.
You don't put the cart before the horse, or even startle the horse too much.
Positive waves, man.
everything is vibration...thanks.
I've lived in MASS most of my life and this is every small city , pick one.
They were all this grand at one time in New England. the nicer the city was the bigger shit hole they turned it into today.
Someone blocked all the water flowing through these little towns and cities.
Filled in the moats and canals , that was the start of the death nail for the cities .
I remember the old folk talking about stuff like that and what a shame it was.
They said there goes the clean, fresh water. And that is exactly what happened.
Some even told of glowing emerald gobble stone streets as dusk set in. They told of how the cities were powered differently.
From my experience most of the old males knew there was a grid that got cut off or out , where I grew up.
They knew it only meant bad news for the citizens.
New England makes me feel so sad. Like a part of my family died, that's how I honestly feel about my growing up in MASS.
My heart so heavily weighs.
I do mourn, I do.
❤🙏
Very nice to see :)
Wow that term “planned industrial city” at the start stuck out to me.. supposedly means a city carefully planned on previously undeveloped land.. rrrrrrright
Do you have any videos on Rochester, NY? there might be something interesting there, it was supposedly going to be called "the American Venice" because of the aqueduct system, it had a metro in the 1950s, now abandoned... maybe worth your time
haven't done Rochester yet...will put it on the list. Thanks for watching and commenting!
I’m sure it is! I recently moved back to the Finger Lakes and I’m starting to see Tartaria everywhere. How bout the Flatiron in Watkins Glen?
No one's an expert I like that we can learn together thanks again buddy
This was neat. I'm from Holyoke as were my parents and grandparents.
WOW ! Wow Wow ! Did you see it ? That monster building @ 2:01 ... I am amazed at what these guys have built, having been a contractor myself for a while and I look at them from that perspective. Look at the openings on the 2nd level.
The open to the world like giant shades ! And it looks like when the shade is up completely, a balcony is extended out maybe 8' ?
Damn, I sure would like to have been able to experience these structures in full glory, or have a better remembrance for them. No kids, we didn't build them, the gods did the last time they stopped by and threw a little party for 1000 yrs.
actually from my understanding, all old photos had to be doctored or edited in some way. yes, they had to be. and they were almost always doctored beyond what had to be done. portraits were always edited to make the person more attractive. and buildings etc often had penciled in aspects. often the people seem to be drawn in. i can se a lot of drawing going on in these old photos. yes even the black and white civil war era photos were highly edited. even ones of the presidents. they would even combine one dudes body with anothers head. they are often completely deceptive, complete fabrications. u cant trust old photos at all. u can trust modern photos much more and often it is easy to tell if they have been photoshopped. the old world photoshoping is often completely undetectable , theres no warping etc. but people dont know that photoshoping has been a part of photography from the begining. it seems even photoshopping was superior in the old world.
I do remember that in the early 1960‘s when I was born, my baby photos from the studios were a bit doctored. Colored photos were often doctored, as my eyes were colored more blue than they actually are & mine & my mother‘s lips were tinted more red than my father‘s. Color was new in the studios for portraits. At least that is my experience with my family’s photos. The black & white photos of weddings in the 1920‘s to 1950‘s were BEAUTIFUL! I have 1 photo that has a silent movie on a billboard behind 1 of my great aunts sitting in front of it on a guardrail from between 1911 to 1919. She was born in the late 1800‘s!
Mass-achoo-setts ... I like the way you pronounce it better bud lol . I can't believe I haven't seen this exploration yet ! Cheers for covering some of my state bud .
I always thoroughly enjoy your research and video presentations and appreciate the amount of work you put into finding those more obscure pictures that truly show how impractical some of their narratives truly are. Thank you. 💯⛪🕌🛕🕍
I appreciate this comment thank you. I love searching....there are photos that set off alarm bells aren't there.....I think we've got em on the run!❤🙏
@@oldworldex most definitely!
You might find the Flatiron Building of Watkins Glen, N.Y. Worth a look!
very interesting I had never heard of it..
Looks very mudflooded..
@@oldworldex I was there but also found it on line. Looks like another floor underground. It’s on a pretty steep slope.
They destroyed so much of the old world during the last reset and built the trash we have today. It makes me wonder what crap they're going to replace this trash with during the current reset.
In case you didn't know. The famous Yankee Candle opened there very first factory in Holyoke in 1973 after making them in his home.
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Paper City! Known for making all kinds of paper, notebooks, etc. in those old buildings! Neighbors of mine worked in them, with relatives! We used the canals in the flats before I was born. I wish we still used water power! To think of all those turbines Tesla built in Niagara & how they had so much of Niagara Falls going off to different directions for running each shop on the lower end in the US & in a plant on the Canadian side! All those turbines are still there, lying dormant & the businesses down low, all torn down. (I saw a video of them still there! Really cool to see!).
I think the smoke stacks burned coal at that time. To build canals & buildings on them, they’d sometimes float logs down the waterways. Easier! The Wm Whiting Coal Co! Interesting! There was a Wm Whiting Lodge, I believe. Probably a Masonic Lodge. Kenilworth Castle has a dark past & was demolished. There was another place I remember begging my father to take me to castle ruins as a four-year old. He never did. Nor did I ever get to see Kenilworth!
Initially the dams were made of wood! That might explain the newer rock used. I should see if I still have that book about the beginnings of the City of Holyoke! It might have a lot of goodies in there!
Also on Holyoke St where cable cars ran, to another city...Westfield...it’s all woods, as far as I know, but I went riding on a rec vehicle in the 1980’s & we had found this HUGE stone-slab fireplace in the middle of nowhere! It was gorgeous & obviously there had been a massive structure there!
Friends had found many, many arrowheads in what we then called, West Holyoke, near Hampton Ponds & in the mountains & right in some yards! There were also ditches, used my military in wars before the 1960’s, for training...but I wonder if they were there for Indian wars...they were like deep pits, almost like small open air prisons & you’d need a ladder to get out! So...that was odd! This was in the section called Rock Valley, way out in the fields, long forgotten! I still could find it, if houses haven’t been put up.
The turbines are still in operation to this day actually
@@yw9299 really? Great news! For which businesses??
Trucking of materials would have been a nightmare performed by an Amy sized fleet since modern Semi Trucks allowed to weigh 80k Gross vehicle weight and up from there based on axels and trailer types but 80K the absolute norm. They didn’t have the vehicles or HP to haul in all the granite cut stone etc.
@1:33, What is that building? So many old world cities have a similar building; sort of 3-sided with a rounded facade. (Like the one at Times Square, NY). We have one here in Santa Cruz, California. I'm really curious about the shape of the building (wouldn't a rectangular building be easier to construct), and also the structure at the top of the building. (I hope that was clear enough)
the same building shows up at 7:30...they're calling it the General Offices of the American Writing Paper CO. Yes much easier to build and finish squares and rectangles. In my estimation, you wouldn't build like this unless you understand and value the placement of infrastructure so much that you are willing to build around a desired plan...and you'd have to be confident in your ability to build to conform to the flow of the streets. You'll see it a lot in Europe, where the street bends and the buildings bend with it.
we have one in Burbank CA as well. Flat irons we have named them, every city seems to have one, or did have one .
you know, someone tares down a lot of stuff.
That building no longer exists today😓 it used to occupy the inside land at a “Y” in the road that still exists. To the right of the building is Race Street, and the left side is Main Street. Race Street runs directly alongside the “lower canal” and originally ran appx 9 blocks in a North-South orientation all the way across downtown Holyoke to meet back up to main street at another “Y” in the road in the “Springdale” neighborhood of Holyoke👍😁
oh and thanks for the video.
Those poor pilgrims, if they had known about the city over the hill.
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Very very well done!!!!!! Btw, it's mass uh CHEW setts... You do a very good job brother.. honestly I could see these pictures all day, no matter if the city is big or small...but there is something to be said about these cities with anything less than a 100 or 75,000 when they are so built out like this!
Holyoke is a sad sad sad places now a days, very drug ridden. Same with a lot of the smaller ones, so when you show how built out and beautiful they looked it's just all that more damning against the main stream narrative.
@Diz0rdeR Gratitude Mick!!❤🙏
@Diz0rdeR hahah!!! In some parts it might as well be called that. Boston is being turned into an absolute dump
@@oldworldex like wise!!
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what a beautiful grand place Boston was while I was growing up. shit hole now.
Mount Holyoke College is not in Holyoke. It's in South Hadley
thanks for the clarification..
Have you done Northampton?
I have not...will check it out.
I believe that opera house is abandoned
I live in Holyoke and it's not what it used to be. Drugs prostitution and gang are what's going on in downtown Holyoke now. All of the mills are closed 😪 not the place to be. The out skirts are nice but downtown is f up bad.
I agree it’s sad .
Seems every immigrant story starts with, so and so arrived with 2 nickels... And the town turned that into 10 churches, county court house, 3 libraries, 2 universities, high schools, electric trams, cabals, bridges, and of course the post office. Way to stretch a couple nickles county comptroller, haha.
Actually, Holyoke was the paper manufacturing capital of the world. Holyoke was designed and planned out to be the center of paper manufacturing in the United States…. And it happily occupied that purpose for decades. Holyoke, back then, was an area filled with wealthy people associated with the paper industry. The canals engineered into the city were put there to power the paper industry cheaply and reliably…. And the whole idea payed off many times over for the city. Its all that wealth that built all of that city that you see in these pictures. Holyoke was a place flush with cash at the turn of the 20th century. My 3rd great grandfather was the mayor of Holyoke, a state senator representing the Holyoke Area, as well as the Police Chief of Holyoke, and owned a paper business as well. Some of the world’s finest papers and even money paper were manufactured here in the past. Holyoke used to be a big deal in industry👍😁
I think Ive watched your videos n for you to come and talk about a place where I grew up things have changed others things still exist witch is mind boggling when you think about it and you talk about the old world Tesla the building type that church that you were talking how tall it was the art and Craftsman'ship that they came up with that church at time 16 11 that Church is down the street, different from from the picture, but yes there is a Natural energy system I believe the old world had n Tesla knew about it n who was it jp morgan and thomas edison it was over control and money Tesla wanted free energy,I can talk about all the conspiracy that really make since all day long
now its called dope city
Wow I don't if it's the guy who made the video but it's nice to see someone highlight a comment with the wrong information even though my comment/reply came with the actual websites for locations that prove what I said was correct and not only that my comments with the attached proof keeps getting erased. Real nice. And to think I extended an invitation of a guided tour of the cities and towns because you seemed interested in history and the area I have lived my enire life in,but when my comment is ignored and erased despite the added proof I put in was ignored and erased while a person's comment with misinformation gets highlighted and special attention is sad. People are greatly mistaken when they say people from southern states are all nice clearly not true. It's not nice to erase comments with correct info and highlight the comment with incorrect info.
The summit house is located in south hadley and Hadley not holyoke. The same goes for Mt Holyoke college. Now I will teach you how to say my states name. Pronounced Mass- a- choo sets. Fun fact Abraham Lincoln stayed at sumit house. Those weren't breweries they were paper mills. Holyoke is referred to as paper city. Its paper factories were built along the man made canal or the Connecticut river. A large amount of those old factories have, unfortunately, recently been torn down. The building on the CT river you mentioned I'm pretty sure is the shad lift. It's open to the public and a really neat place to visit. You should visit sometime and see these places for yourself you could even visit Springfield another video and location you covered for my area of western MA where I have been born and raised. Would love to give you a tour of the area. Worcester is about an hour away via the MA pike another area you covered in your videos Im not from that areas but am from holyoke, Springfield area. My family's history heavily tied into this area of Massachusetts. Thanks for taking an interest in where I've been born and raised and if you ever visit with plans for updated videos a comparison of buildings that still exist from your original video I would be more than happy to show you around as I love history and historical buildings myself.
I live in Holyoke and have for almost all my life. I wanted to offer one correction to this comment. I believe the “Summit House” the video references in the MT TOM summit house, which is no longer there. The video referenced “castle ruins” with a stone foundation that was overgrown. I believe that is the foundation of the old MT TOM summit house. There were actually 3 different summit houses… the first burned down in 1900, the second burned down in 1929, and the third closed, and was eventually torn down and replaced with TV and RADIO transmission towers that stand on the old foundations today. There is another summit house on top of MT HOLYOKE in South Hadley/Hadley which still exists today and is open to the public as part of the Skinner State Park👍😁
@rickrick7528 yeah and I have lived in the area my entire life and actually went on a field trip as a child to the summit house and if you bothered to visit the place you would know its never been moved it's always been there AND IS NOT LOCATED IN HOLYOKE. Besides visiting the place to see the emptied area up the side of the mountain that was the tram ride to the hotel you find out yourself it's been on that location the whole time. Also if you took the time to actually educate yourself and do a little research you would find the websites for both locations. While eyrie house was a hotel located in holyoke that burnt down Summit house was never moved and definitely not the same place. Do research before you pop off trying to correct people, because you are most definitely mistaken. And go get your guided tour of summit house to educate yourself Besides checking the websites for both that will tell you they are 2 different locations. You would have saved yourself looking foolish had you done a little research. www.atlasobscura.com/places/eyrie-house-ruins
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conviently my reply keeps getting erased. Your defiintely mistaken/wrong do some research visit summit house or maybe look it up on line. The place your referring to rick that burnt down is located in holyoke and was known as eyrie house, and is not summit house. Summit house is not located in holyoke never was and has been in the same location ALWAYS. I'm not going to bother to once again attch my proof as my comment keeps getting erased by someone who is clearly based. Im a history mut have lived in the holyoke south hadley chicopee and surrounding area my whole life. Born and raised actually. I unlike you went on a school field trip to summit house as a child where I learned Lincoln stayed there. If you had the same experience you would know summit house has always been there and is evident with the bald area up the side of the mountain where the tram used to be back in the day (evidence of it always having been in that location). Look up both places online and next time do research before you try to correct people as there's websites for both locations.
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