What Did the Buddha Say About Rebirth and Kamma
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- What Did the Buddha Say About Rebirth and Kamma.
#karma #kamma #rebirth
There is still the question, though, of why the Buddha felt compelled to discuss the issue of karma and rebirth. We know that he refused to take a position on other issues that were hotly contested at the time - such as whether the cosmos was eternal or not (Majjhima Nikaya 63: Cula-Malunkyovada Sutta: The Shorter Instructions to Malunkya) - so what led him to take a position here?
The first part of the answer is that knowledge of rebirth formed an integral part of his awakening experience, playing a role in all three knowledges that led to his attainment of total release. Knowledge about karma played a role in the second and third.
In the first knowledge, he recollected many eons of his own previous lives:
"""When the mind was thus concentrated, purified, bright, unblemished, rid of defilement, pliant, malleable, steady, & attained to imperturbability, I directed it to the knowledge of recollecting my past lives. I recollected my manifold past lives, i.e., one birth, two... five, ten... fifty, a hundred, a thousand, a hundred thousand, many eons of cosmic contraction, many eons of cosmic expansion, many eons of cosmic contraction & expansion: 'There I had such a name, belonged to such a clan, had such an appearance. Such was my food, such my experience of pleasure & pain, such the end of my life. Passing away from that state, I reappeared there. There too I had such a name, belonged to such a clan, had such an appearance. Such was my food, such my experience of pleasure & pain, such the end of my life. Passing away from that state, I reappeared here.' Thus I remembered my manifold past lives in their modes & details.
"This was the first knowledge I attained in the first watch of the night. Ignorance was destroyed; knowledge arose; darkness was destroyed; light arose - as happens in one who is heedful, ardent, & resolute."
- Majjhima Nikaya 19: Dvedhavitakka Sutta: Two Sorts of Thinking
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Great exposition, based on the Pali suttas. Thank you for this.🙏
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Question..... must we or do we play different roles i.e. if your a Asian woman must you be reborn a Asian woman or do we play different roles ,could she be reborn a man from Norway or a woman from Canada or a man from Fiji 🇫🇯?????? what does buddha say
depend to your kama link to
My thoughts are if your a male with male habits you come back as a bloke if you have an asian mindset you probably come back as an asian imo
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This explanation of rebirth and Karma, is completely based on the Hindu/Jain concepts that somehow got into the scriptures. There were no books nor the written word in the Buddha’s time. Ven. Añada thera was the person who had the gift of an incredible memory.
The Buddha never himself said that he was born 550 times.
The birth of “ a thought and the death of a thought “ millions of times, is what he meant. Bhawa being a thought and Pubar Bhawa being the next new thought.
Karma again is not what is commonly explained in the Hindu/ Jain faith, which has entered the scripts of the religion called “ Buddhism “!
The “ Original Buddha Doctrine “ refutes this concept of punishment and reward “ aspect, which is the Christian/Hindu faith. In DEV DAHA SUTTA in the first few paragraphs, the Buddha says “ If anyone says that, what one endures is a result of what one did in the past, THAT IS NOT THE BUDDHA DOCTRINE; instead it is the Niganta teaching ( Hindu teaching ). IT IS VERY CLEAR. You need to do enough research into the Original Doctrine or speak with the over 500 people who have entered the Path and achieved Sowahn which is the first stage, in the Path to Nibbana. They have seen all this in their journey. Listen to “ Denageneemen Nivanata “ via RUclips to listen to those who have entered the Path, with no charge. In fact the Buddha has said that Prople who entered the Path are the ones who should be teaching others, so that the wrong message is not being spread in his name, as has been happening worldwide! Achieve at least the first stage to preach. 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
The Original Buddha Doctrine is different from these “ Hindu/Jain “ derived concepts, that are being spread all over the world, by people who have not entered the Path. That is why the Buddha reiterated that one should teach only after entering the Path.
The Buddha spoke of ANATTA, which is basic in His Doctrine. It means NO SOUL. No me. No I. Which means there is NO person, except the senses - from smell. Sight. Hearing. Taste. Mind and memory.
In the Dev DAHA Sutta, Categorically states “ If anyone says that one endures is a consequence of previous actions “ that NOT the Buddha Doctrine, but is Niganta ( Hindu ) doctrine.
The Buddha
Bhawa means one thought. PUNAR Bhawa means the next new thought. Therefore it is the thought that follows one after the other.
Therefore it is obvious that there is no me/I/ person to be reborn.
The thoughts follow in a sequence and there is no KAMMA as described by the Hindu/ Jain faith, where there is reward on one hand and punishment or damnation on the other, as is the case in Christianity.
The Original Buddha Doctrine, before it was mixed with the Hindu faith, is Supra-mundane and Supra-cortical.
Not these mundane false concepts such as rebirth of the person. Do your research and enter the Path, through “ Cheto VIMUKTHI “ which one could follow with a fee, through Denageneemen Nivanata via the Internet. Until one enters the Path to Nibbana, by entering the first stage ( Sowahn) it is incorrect to teach or preach, which is like BLIND LEADING THE BLIND. 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼. Denageneemen Nivanata is free via the Internet. Sorry I said that there is a fee. THERE IS NO FEE.
thank you for your analysis which you have argued well. I agree with you but you said it much better than I
Is it not possible that those Sutta were written by others to throw people into believing into rebirth, we do not thoroughly know if he did really taught about Rebirth. How come it is so that not a single person from the sangha ever since the Buddha had not seen rebirth. Not even sariputta or mogallana or kondanna or anyone else could see. Why can't it be doubted? Why haven't the Dalai Lama said, he was such and such in his past birth or spoken about rebirth.
I don’t understand how some secular Buddhists denied the Buddha taught karma and rebirth . In tons of sutras the Buddha explained his 3 knowledges was about the problem of rebirth ( his saw his many past lives ) , how beings are reborn according to their actions and the destruction of taints . To be skeptical about karma and rebirth or having doubts is normal and reasonable. But to claim the Buddha never taught Karma and rebirth when there is a tons of sutras about the topic is unbelievable.
Wilful ignorance their loss.🧐
I don't believe in the rebirth of a person cause I never experienced it and have no evidence of it but I do believe in rebirth of thoughts and Buddha himself said to be skeptical about his teachings and also there is thing in Buddhism called hetuvidya and pramanvada (evidence) as for those who deny it well maybe they may have their reason for it
@@DB03584 you can be skeptical about the Buddha teachings and that’s fine . But some people that claim to be Buddhists deny the Buddha taught his doctrine in the context of karma and rebirth and how to end samsara , thats another thing . There are many sutras the Buddha talking about karma and rebirth and samsara in the traditional sense . MANY sutras . But because we don’t remember past lives is reasonable to have doubts or be skeptical. Buddhism can be practiced putting the teachings of karma and rebirth aside but understanding the context of the teachings , problem of suffering karma and rebirth and how to end samsara . For the moment you don’t need to have a active believe in karma and rebirth but understanding the context of the teachings is very important .
@@leoorthodox8866 I don't know what context are you talking about Buddhism is about understanding life death and suffering and inner workings of mind and so much more Buddha left is house to learn these things it wasn't for understanding rebirth of life. people are struggling to understand in which context buddha teach those things from the very first Buddhist council held after sakymuni Buddha's mahaparinibbana therefore there are many branches of Buddhism who interpret the context a bit differently it and it's not wrong and there is nothing called secular Buddhist there are ONLY Buddhist. There are many instances where Buddha is said to had conversation with Brahmas so there are deities called Brahma? And to believe them blindly because buddha told story about them? but we also know Buddha used stories to teach people lessons Buddha told stories about talking animals, trees brahma and what not and Buddha himself told to be sceptical don't believe blindly use your head
@@DB03584 you don’t understood my post . The context of the Buddha teachings is the 4 noble truths in the CONTEXT of karma rebirth and liberation from Samsara . That’s classic Buddhism . Buddhism is a religion deal with it . Some aspects of the teachings can’t be directly verified by most people . Like karma rebirth understanding how beings are reborn according to the karma etc . Secular Buddhism is nonsense because you can’t strip Buddhism of the most important teachings or foundation and still call it Buddhism . Literally in many sutras de view of one life only or the view that rebirth doesn’t exist is called wrong view . You may like meditation or some philosophy aspects of Buddhism but to claim be a Buddhist and reject the foundation of the dharma is nonsense . Tu put things that you can not verify like karma rebirth etc aside is one thing . But to reject it altogether is another thing .
How Buddha talk about some sort of rebirth, because he didn't believe in God or some other entity/entities.No heven no paradise,even Adam haven't discover/desifer the source-origin of Good n Evil.
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The Original Buddha Doctrine is different from these “ Hindu/Jain “ derived concepts, that are being spread all over the world, by people who have not entered the Path. That is why the Buddha reiterated that one should teach only after entering the Path.
The Buddha spoke of ANATTA, which is basic in His Doctrine. It means NO SOUL. No me. No I. Which means there is NO person, except the senses - from smell. Sight. Hearing. Taste. Mind and memory.
In the Dev DAHA Sutta, Categorically states “ If anyone says that one endures is a consequence of previous actions “ that NOT the Buddha Doctrine, but is Niganta ( Hindu ) doctrine.
The Buddha
Bhawa means one thought. PUNAR Bhawa means the next new thought. Therefore it is the thought that follows one after the other.
Therefore it is obvious that there is no me/I/ person to be reborn.
The thoughts follow in a sequence and there is no KAMMA as described by the Hindu/ Jain faith, where there is reward on one hand and punishment or damnation on the other, as is the case in Christianity.
The Original Buddha Doctrine, before it was mixed with the Hindu faith, is Supra-mundane and Supra-cortical.
Not these mundane false concepts such as rebirth of the person. Do your research and enter the Path, through “ Cheto VIMUKTHI “ which one could follow with a fee, through Denageneemen Nivanata via the Internet. Until one enters the Path to Nibbana, by entering the first stage ( Sowahn) it is incorrect to teach or preach, which is like BLIND LEADING THE BLIND. 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Smell. Sight. Hearing. Taste. Touch. Memory, represent the way one connects with the outside world. There is no connection with the interior of this fathom long body !
Sorry.
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