10 Most Lethal Ships in Star Trek - Part Two

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  • Опубликовано: 24 дек 2024

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  • @BGEntertainmentGroup
    @BGEntertainmentGroup 3 года назад +26

    "The ship is the star of the show" ... I agree 100% and you are correct, the writers never understood that. In Generations, the end of the movie with Kirk fighting on a rock was horrible. What the fans wanted to see was a situation where Kirk found himself on the bridge or the Next Generation Enterprise commanding Riker and the rest while Picard was sent back the old Enterprise... The Nexus provided the PERFECT vehicle for this and the interactions would have been PRICELESS!

  • @andyb1653
    @andyb1653 4 года назад +56

    I think the Time Cops didn't intervene in the Voyager finale because the results of Janeway's shenanigans were so beneficial to Humanity.
    Time cop: "Jesus, Sarge, did you see what Janeway just did?
    Time Cop Sergeant: **watching the Borg get rekt** "You know what, Jones? I'm OK with this."

    • @ThatSolidworksGuyVC
      @ThatSolidworksGuyVC 4 года назад +7

      Andy B That's...actually not far off from Memory Beta. If Adm. Janeway didn't Intervene the Borg would've practically taken over, said the DTI

    • @EvanG529
      @EvanG529 3 года назад +1

      I think the time cops don't care about events that lead to their existing, just anything that would change their existence.

    • @BernhardErnst
      @BernhardErnst 3 года назад

      I remember them also talking about the "Janeway factor" because she kept interfering with their activities.

    • @AndorRadnai
      @AndorRadnai 11 месяцев назад +1

      It’s probably something that was supposed to happen.
      A canon event, if you will…

    • @andyb1653
      @andyb1653 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@AndorRadnai "bootstrap" paradox?

  • @Ithinkiwill66
    @Ithinkiwill66 4 года назад +18

    God...Vengeance was one of the best, terrifying ship, I've seen, in the Federation...eventhough it was in the alternative reality, it was a heavily armed vessel. The ship looked more advanced for it's time....so cool! 😎😎

    • @merafirewing6591
      @merafirewing6591 Год назад +3

      One of the most cool things to ever be made by Abrams.

    • @AndorRadnai
      @AndorRadnai 11 месяцев назад

      Absolutely! And I know this has been said a million times, but the sounds it makes!! That thing sounds like a leviathan. A dark, terrifying leviathan, and one more than capable to follow up on that intimidation factor.

  • @FrozenPhoenix15
    @FrozenPhoenix15 4 года назад +77

    The Time Police didn’t show up to stop Admiral Janeway, because she traveled to the future and killed them all before traveling back to help her younger self. It’s the perfect crime.

    • @IronWarhorsesFun
      @IronWarhorsesFun 4 года назад +7

      bUT THEN SKYNET SENT A TERMINATOR BACK THROUGH TIME AND ASSASSINATE JANEWAY BEFORE SHE COULD GO TO THE FUTURE AND....

    • @Dantes74302
      @Dantes74302 4 года назад +3

      Actually, the Temporal Investigation novels deal with this issue more seriously

    • @FrozenPhoenix15
      @FrozenPhoenix15 4 года назад +9

      Jean-Luc Martel But before the final blow could be struck, she tore open a portal in time, flinging the terminator into the future, where her rule is law. Now the foolish machine seeks to return to the past, again, and undo the future that is JANEWAY.

    • @IronWarhorsesFun
      @IronWarhorsesFun 4 года назад

      @@FrozenPhoenix15 BUT THEN AT THE CRITICAL HOUR ANOTHER TERMINATOR GETS SENT TO KILL HER AS A CHILD.

    • @darwinxavier3516
      @darwinxavier3516 4 года назад +3

      In a strange turn of events, Samuel Beckett was sent not to the past within his own lifetime, but to the distant future. Where he had to prevent galactic war by brokering peace between the species of the Alpha and Beta quadrants. There he would spend the rest of his day as Jonathan Archer, never to return home, but his long journey was finally over as he would never have to leap again.

  • @artembentsionov
    @artembentsionov 4 года назад +165

    Burnham steps onto the bridge.
    Black Alert!
    Burnham: “Dude... Uncool.”

    • @GenerationFilms
      @GenerationFilms  4 года назад +23

      Haha

    • @JaelaOrdo
      @JaelaOrdo 4 года назад +2

      😂👍🏽

    • @jamieolberding7731
      @jamieolberding7731 3 года назад +8

      @@GenerationFilms I totally HATE and LOATHE that ABOMINATION of a show "Star Trek: Discovery" for so many reasons, and I don't want to talk about it.

    • @jamieolberding7731
      @jamieolberding7731 3 года назад +2

      @Maurice Ernest Yutong I'm NOT kidding! I really LOATHE that ABOMINATION of a show "Star Trek: Discovery"!!!

    • @8bitromania263
      @8bitromania263 3 года назад

      @@jamieolberding7731 it is clearly a leftist marxist leninist frankfurt school of thought show, my wife hated it so much when i showed her an episode, we will never watch ever, and she watched star trek from 1990's. I bet the chinese government is running the star trek discovery and not americans, it is clearly unfederation, inhuman, prowar and full of propaganda and guilt and stupid people and recycled rejected ships from older series, shame on them

  • @happisakshappiplace.6588
    @happisakshappiplace.6588 4 года назад +86

    "Step up to red alert?"
    "Are you absolutely sure, it does mean changing the bulb...!"

    • @luvmaika
      @luvmaika 4 года назад +11

      Loved that Red Dwarf episode hilarious.

    • @TravelWithCesarin
      @TravelWithCesarin 4 года назад +6

      "double red alert"

    • @mopar_dude9227
      @mopar_dude9227 4 года назад +4

      Happisak's Happi Place. Lol, love Red Dwarf! “
      Holly: Purple alert...purple alert..”
      Lister: “What’s a purple alert?”
      Holly: “Well, it’s not quite as bad as a red alert, but a bit worse than a blue alert...sort of a mauve alert.”

    • @vrenak
      @vrenak 4 года назад +1

      @@mopar_dude9227 This is NOT a daffodil.

    • @druss69harad61
      @druss69harad61 4 года назад +1

      I prefer brown alert

  • @andyfromtheuk
    @andyfromtheuk 4 года назад +32

    Don't forget the Enterprise E carries Quantum Torpedoes as well 👍

  • @ojisanhoward8940
    @ojisanhoward8940 4 года назад +26

    Always an amazing happy time to see British Ben geek it up about Star Trek! The most Gentlemanly person for the Gentlemans SciFi! *Lifts tea in salute*

  • @MrFungus420
    @MrFungus420 4 года назад +6

    Regarding the third nacelle, The Official Star Fleet Technical Manual from the original series had a Dreadnought class ship with 3 nacelles. The third one was attached directly to the saucer in part so that it would have warp capability in the event of separation.

  • @kamenriderblade2099
    @kamenriderblade2099 4 года назад +23

    Hooray! More British Ben.
    You need to do more episodes =D.
    We miss you soo much!!!

  • @BammerD
    @BammerD 4 года назад +144

    "This is acting Captain William Riker of the USS Cut 'n Paste."

    • @mcgrizz7604
      @mcgrizz7604 3 года назад +2

      Ctrl+K... Hated how lazy shows are getting.. The Mando did it with the Dark Troopers.. Discovery with Control Ships. Picard with The Romulan and Rikers Fleet.. lazy.. BSG had all the same shit but at least they moved it around and ain't looking at everything facing the same way no matter where there are.. ugh.. long rant over..

    • @johnassal5838
      @johnassal5838 3 года назад +1

      @@mcgrizz7604 I'd go even further on some of that but how does it apply to Dark Troopers? They seem out if place on the list.

    • @grigss3027
      @grigss3027 3 года назад +1

      @@mcgrizz7604 sir if you are talking about the civ fleet then im sorry, the ships have to stay the same, cuz THEY ARE THE SAME there are like 30k humans left by mid season 4. vipers are standardised craft, so are raiders, basestars in rdm are living organisms and probably require the same configuration to function properly

    • @jimleask5595
      @jimleask5595 3 года назад +2

      Lol so true

    • @emperorgizmo3014
      @emperorgizmo3014 3 года назад +2

      @@mcgrizz7604 the new Trek is not Trek and is BARELY serviceable sci-fi, if at all.

  • @davitto01
    @davitto01 4 года назад +8

    I like to think the reason the time police didn't interfere with Admiral Janeway saving Voyager is for 2 reasons:
    1. It benefits the Federation in some way in their battle against the sphere builders.
    2. Voyager buggers with the timeline so much in its 50 year journey home, that it's just easier to let them go home and the timeline for hundreds of other species is left unaffected.

    • @TVOrtega
      @TVOrtega 4 года назад +3

      Hahaha i can imagine the time police assigned to watch Voyager, "f*ck this shit, just go home, and stay put!" =D

    • @cyberfux
      @cyberfux 4 года назад +2

      No. 2 actually makes sense to me...

    • @achtsekundenfurz7876
      @achtsekundenfurz7876 4 года назад +1

      3. Voyager's transfer to the Delta quadrant was the first violation, so each time somebody files a complaint against Voyager's shenanigans, it's met with a "Well where were you when Voyager got displaced into the Delta quadrant?" rebuttal.

    • @nolanturner5607
      @nolanturner5607 3 года назад

      Or could be more like the Doctor Who theory of 'fixed points/events' in time. Like that had to happen for things to be as they are. Or like the 'Year from Hell' 2 parter, where Annorax couldn't find the point in time to alter to bring back his wife.

  • @PhoenixBird9000
    @PhoenixBird9000 4 года назад +45

    "The ship is the star of the show" - Exactly. This is what some people don't understand about Star Trek: The Motion Picture. Sure, the plot was a mix of The Changeling and The Corbomite Maneuver, but the travel pod orbit of the refit Enterprise was pure porn.

    • @PhillipLandmeier
      @PhillipLandmeier 4 года назад +8

      Indeed. I was involved in certain technical details of the motion control system built for the filming of that sequence. (This was before CGI. It was done at Abel in Hollywood, with a very large highly detailed model, a motion control system, and 35mm SLR cameras.) Most everyone involved thought the finished sequence was ridiculous and about five times too long. I disagreed. I loved it. But, I'm a Trekkie.

    • @PhoenixBird9000
      @PhoenixBird9000 4 года назад +2

      @@PhillipLandmeier I'd say you did a fantastic job. I've watched that sequence over and over and I enjoy it as much now as the first time I saw it. It's still one of my favorite films.

    • @PhillipLandmeier
      @PhillipLandmeier 4 года назад +3

      @@PhoenixBird9000 The team certainly did. I only played a small part in this project, tracking down and solving certain vibration problems in the motion control system.
      I don't even know if they exist anymore. Robert Abel and Associates was the premier team for building motion control and animatronics in Hollywood back then. The Conan exhibit at Universal Studios, with the fire-breathing dragon and laser blaster eyes, was all Abel. They designed and built all that.
      So, no credit to me, but I was there.

  • @faithshepard7895
    @faithshepard7895 4 года назад +1

    Absolutely right about that Zheng He pronunciation. A big huge thumb up for your good preparation.

  • @jasofisc
    @jasofisc 4 года назад +73

    I can’t agree more about the most important character being the ships. JJ never figured that out either.

    • @Gunnar001
      @Gunnar001 4 года назад +6

      Blue .Barrymore The actual battles were one of the least important things in Star Trek. The well written and thought provoking stories and characters were what made Trek great.
      Well... that’s what used to make it great...until the trash JJ/Kurtzman era we are currently in. “Trek” is just generic action schlock for the dumb masses now.

    • @bujoun76
      @bujoun76 4 года назад +4

      It's about the characters. It's always about the characters. If you don't care about the characters then all the other stuff doesn't matter.
      This coming from a computer animator who loves most ship designs...

    • @hueyhampton3213
      @hueyhampton3213 4 года назад

      I totally disagree

    • @DavidKnowles0
      @DavidKnowles0 3 года назад +2

      @@Gunnar001 An one of the characters is the ship.

    • @questionmaker5666
      @questionmaker5666 2 года назад

      @@bujoun76 The ships, tone and characters are very important. The battles are only dressing for what should be good writing and character development.

  • @AMVShooterUnlimited
    @AMVShooterUnlimited 3 года назад +13

    I think the third nacelle on the dreadnought cruiser was for a more stable warp field allowing the ship to maintain high warp speed for a longer period of time. Also I know it a matter of opinion but the Crossfield class kinda grow on me and Discovery isn't as bad as some people make it out to be.

    • @shanenolan8252
      @shanenolan8252 2 года назад +1

      And it would carry more fuel for longer missions

    • @shanenolan8252
      @shanenolan8252 2 года назад +1

      @@zeromii3234 warp nacelles carry fuel , duterium and collects hydrogen. That is converted into fuel , right ? Its not there sole function, but fuel for shuttle's and anti matter to produce torpedoes if necessary. ( enterprise, Voyager)

    • @johnymustacio
      @johnymustacio 2 года назад

      @@shanenolan8252 whut is this mystery fuel? there's no feul in star trek!

    • @shanenolan8252
      @shanenolan8252 2 года назад +1

      @@johnymustacio there is ful in star trek . Heavy water and hydrogen. Anti matter. Is produced , its discussed in several episodes, of enterprise and Voyager. And tng .

  • @jeremychoo934
    @jeremychoo934 4 года назад +96

    I love how British Ben pronounces 郑和 correctly 😍

    • @gardendaily
      @gardendaily 4 года назад

      I came here to say just that

    • @rickelleman6613
      @rickelleman6613 4 года назад +2

      @@gardendaily Yeah, we Americans can't pronounce Porche correctly either...

    • @DayneTreader
      @DayneTreader 4 года назад +2

      @@rickelleman6613 You can't spell it right

    • @leeseth.07
      @leeseth.07 4 года назад

      The USS Zheingg Hei

    • @stephenkolostyak4087
      @stephenkolostyak4087 3 года назад +1

      ​@@rickelleman6613 you probably can't pronounce forte or Worchester correctly either, so you enjoy speaking for your damn self from now on.

  • @RybakSix
    @RybakSix 4 года назад +8

    YES Thank You. Somebody finally said it. STARSHIP is the star of the Star Trek :D

  • @stfalx
    @stfalx 4 года назад +2

    I just saw the TinMan episode yesterday on Netflix and ... youtube recommends me your video! Seriously wow!

  • @tomcat124us
    @tomcat124us 4 года назад +1

    I always get tickled when I see British Ben, I am so glad British Ben & American Ben talked about Star Trek in Humanity First Podcast, can't wait for Allen & The Bens do a round table on Podcast talk about Sci-fi Galore.

  • @Silversmith1701
    @Silversmith1701 4 года назад +8

    In regards to the refit enterprises D's third nacelle - they do operate like magnets, the reason there can be a third is that the nacelles each have two coils in them, so a single nacelle on the D is operationally the same as two on a regular ship. Check out the freedom class as a case study. It's also stated somewhere in the technical manual, though I can't remember where.

    • @GenerationFilms
      @GenerationFilms  4 года назад +4

      Thanks for the info

    • @casbot71
      @casbot71 4 года назад +6

      And that also explains why the Defiant violates the unobstructed view between nacelles rule - each nacelle is in fact a pair of nacelles.
      The Delta Flyer must've also used that tech, in fact it apparently went mainstream as later designers seem to ignore that rule - except for the Curiosity class, which is a throwback to _classic_ designs… a homage if you will.

    • @darwinxavier3516
      @darwinxavier3516 4 года назад +4

      @@casbot71 Lets not forget all the other species that don't follow the old "rule" like the Cardassians, Kazon, and even the Klingon birds of prey..

    • @merafirewing6591
      @merafirewing6591 Год назад +2

      ​@@casbot71 Imagine if that Galaxy Variant saw action against the Dominion.

  • @randybentley2633
    @randybentley2633 4 года назад +43

    Alone a Defiant class would be, as seen in First Contact, a nuisance to a Borg Cube. A squadron or a wing on the other hand would eat one of those things alive and would make for a heck of a visual. Given that this class wouldn't be to taxing to build for the dynamic ship you got out of it we should have seen these ships in greater numbers than we did in DS9. I know that the Defiant was the hero ship for Sisko and the gang but I'm sure that we could have been discerning enough to be able to know the difference.

    • @casbot71
      @casbot71 4 года назад +11

      Also the backstory was the Defiant had been fighting the Borg for hours and had been one of the first ships to engage it.
      It had been keeping up a running battle dodging shots and doing strafing runs.
      And yes, a swarm of them would make life hell for a Cube.

    • @artembentsionov
      @artembentsionov 4 года назад

      We do see more of them in Voyager fighting warbirds

    • @vrenak
      @vrenak 4 года назад +6

      We do see several of them in the large battles in DS9, but starfleet also spent a lot of resources on refitting its vast fleet of older ships, which is also a cheap way of boosting your fleet, and the took up building more of the galaxy class ships, which does make sense, it could relatively easily be enhanced with newer weapons, was a proven design, and could also be used to transport large amounts of troops and equipment.

    • @DavidKnowles0
      @DavidKnowles0 3 года назад +3

      @@vrenak Defiant just make more sense when fighting the Dominion, you need fast manoeuvrable vessels, not the lumbering beasts that was the Galaxy class.

    • @vrenak
      @vrenak 3 года назад +5

      @@DavidKnowles0 The Dominion war wasn't just space battles, massive amounts of troops, and supplies, also needed to be moved, and for that part the Defiant class is worthless, the Excelsior, and Miranda classes are better but still quite limited, the Nebula and ambassador classe had a little better capacity, Akira a tad more, but the Galaxy class was the only truly large ship, with the combination of speed (it was faster than the defiant class), firepower and room for troops and supplies. The alternative is providing escort ships for every single transport. And as I said, the design was tried and tested, and we know from TNG the class had gone through a series of minor upgrades already.

  • @blbproductions1417
    @blbproductions1417 4 года назад +6

    I love this channel and Gen Tech like legit Nerd Heaven

  • @torpedo8384
    @torpedo8384 4 года назад +9

    Riker is a poker player. He was bluffing. The ship's hull was probably made from recycled Oberth and Miranda class hulls, pure explodium!

    • @nuclearfilms3341
      @nuclearfilms3341 3 года назад

      That's hilarious and I kinda hope that's true now

    • @AndorRadnai
      @AndorRadnai 11 месяцев назад

      I actually don’t doubt that it’s an effective strike fleet, made up of somewhat formidable ships, but I too suspect he was massively embellishing with all that „toughest, fastest, whatever“ talk.

  • @ShardFalcorsGaming
    @ShardFalcorsGaming 4 года назад +40

    Terran Empire? More like Karen Empire! "Bring me your manager!" **Kills the manager** "Any questions? Good! Give me what I want!"

  • @casbot71
    @casbot71 4 года назад +9

    05. The Defiant wasn't just a lethal ship cause it was a lethal ship, it was also a logistical masterpiece, in that it could be built at smaller shipyards and only needed a crew of 40.
    You could get 9 Defiants for every Sovereign based on mass, and you could crew 21 Defiants with the Sovereign's crew!
    Split the difference and say 15 Defiants - put that up against the Scimitar and they would swarm and slaughter it.
    Mothball the older Starfleet ships and reassign the crew, a bit of Holodeck training and they're ready to go.
    But still not as great a logistical power up as number 6, the Admiral Janeway refit.
    A couple of days in field and a cruiser can upgrade itself to be almost impervious to attack and capable of one shooting nearly anything.
    Now use shipyard facilities and Starfleet could upgrade their entire fleet as soon as they can enter and leave.
    Now imagine the Enterprise-E with armour generators and transphasic torpedoes versus the Scimitar…

    • @TheCJUN
      @TheCJUN 4 года назад +4

      A lot of bang for the buck.

    • @brodriguez11000
      @brodriguez11000 4 года назад +2

      @@TheCJUN : Hive-minded species agree.

    • @ThePathStrider
      @ThePathStrider 4 года назад

      The Scimitar had fighter craft on board.
      It would have launched them at a fleet of Defiants.

    • @DavidKnowles0
      @DavidKnowles0 3 года назад +1

      An each Defiant class could take one multiple dominion fighters and win.

    • @merafirewing6591
      @merafirewing6591 Год назад +2

      ​@@ThePathStrider It would be the most epic fight with the Enterprise E and 21 defiants taking on the Scimitar.

  • @scottbraun2457
    @scottbraun2457 4 года назад +5

    Yes I agree, that your "rant", was worth it. I also wish to see more of the same -plus, the bits you mentioned about how the last ENTERPRISE, was actually a BORG "hit-&-run", hunting ship -(I'd like to see clips of that action too...even if they have to be fabricated).
    I.. as always, had fun watching. Keep it up.

  • @StevenHouse1980
    @StevenHouse1980 4 года назад +60

    Star Trek has always had a bit Starship Porn. that fleet at the end of Picard was bearly a page 3 pin-up

    • @DivineEternalOne
      @DivineEternalOne 4 года назад +6

      All the ships are too ugly even for a pin-up.

    • @ranekeisenkralle8265
      @ranekeisenkralle8265 4 года назад

      @ValorJ Omega I would contest the notion of the Connie being the best looking one. Dunno.. I just like the compactness of the Miranda class - even if its statline is weaker. The later ships though sleek in design follow the bigger-is-better narrative which I do not like as it illustrates excess.

    • @BigKnGa
      @BigKnGa 4 года назад +2

      @ValorJ Omega I can't agree with the E or Defiant. That lil ship was definitely made for it's purpose. Kinda like the hot rod of the fleet. The D was just a grand ship that didn't catch the majesty of the originals. Maybe it was too big of a gap between the timeline to have us adjust to the new fleet. On tos you got to see multiple connies in action, being a real workhorse of the fleet. The galaxy class was more of a unicorn in tng until ds9 happened and you saw more of them

    • @TheGuardianofAzarath
      @TheGuardianofAzarath 4 года назад

      That's because they were all the same ship, with some slight variations. I'm not kidding, they used the same hull model over and over. Very sloppy.

    • @vrenak
      @vrenak 4 года назад +1

      @@TheGuardianofAzarath Considering Starfleet has had a slew of ship classes for every purpose, all of a sudden there's just one class. Also with such a massive fleet, I don't think starfleet would put Riker in charge as less than a commodore, probably a rear admiral, even if it was just for that mission.

  • @ailius1520
    @ailius1520 4 года назад +6

    This may not have made it on to the show, but due to the U.S.S. Prometheus being successful for saucer-separating into three pieces, Starfleet created the U.S.S. Legos, a ship that could saucer-separate into several dozen pieces. It was particularly effective against aliens who didn't wear shoes.
    In a pinch, those pieces could then reassemble to form a fighting mecha. Different parts of the mecha would have command consoles for various parts of the staff - the captain at the head, chief engineer at the torso, science officer at the right arm, tactical officer at the left arm, chief medical officer at the right leg, counselor at the left leg, and last but not least the executive officer would be stationed at the mecha's groin area.

  • @artembentsionov
    @artembentsionov 4 года назад +17

    It’s funny how Riker has to explain the Zheng He’s power to someone who heads up Starfleet Security (not to mention a member of the Tal Shiar) and should be aware

    • @vrenak
      @vrenak 4 года назад +5

      It's because the writers forgot to introduce the ship and it's power in passing earlier in the season, so they had to let us know at that time, so now it just sounds weird, where if they had made a few casual mentions and maybe a visual or even just a blueprint, this wouldn't have been necessary. It's actually a good example of how poor the writing is in the modern trek.

    • @grigss3027
      @grigss3027 3 года назад +2

      @@vrenak this is kurtz trek in my book, modern trek is enterprise and voyager. and i'll be damned if you call enterprise a poorly written show.

    • @vrenak
      @vrenak 3 года назад +1

      @@grigss3027 VOY and ENT belong to the classic style of Star Trek, along with TOS, TAS, TNG, and DS9, and their associated movies.

  • @ThePathStrider
    @ThePathStrider 4 года назад +17

    Purple Alert: Well, it's sort of like, not as bad as a Red Alert, but a bit worse than a Blue Alert. Kind of like a Mauve Alert ..

    • @andyb1653
      @andyb1653 4 года назад +1

      ++PURPLE ALERT++
      ++PURPLE ALERT++
      **Attention all hands, the galley has run out of Brandy**
      ++THIS IS NOT A DRILL++

    • @antcow1239
      @antcow1239 4 года назад

      God help us if its a potato alert.
      Say your prayers.

    • @peterkaplar1660
      @peterkaplar1660 4 года назад +1

      In Doctor Who, Mauve Alert is the highest universally accepted alert state, so Mauve Alert would be a banger.
      Also, there's a Comman & Conquer: Red Alert 2 mod titled Purple Alert. :D

    • @Pete...NoNotThatOne
      @Pete...NoNotThatOne 4 года назад +1

      I could be wrong, but it looks like a time space anomaly. There’s this big wibbly wobbly swirly thing, and it’s headed this way!

    • @ThePathStrider
      @ThePathStrider 4 года назад

      @@Pete...NoNotThatOne Yep, time to adopt the crash position and start reading the inflight magazines.

  • @ForestTre
    @ForestTre 3 года назад +4

    Discovery is the best star trek show to date because Burnham is a combo of Kirk Sisko and Janeway.

    • @leonrobinson8180
      @leonrobinson8180 3 года назад

      😂

    • @emperorgizmo3014
      @emperorgizmo3014 3 года назад

      Discovery isn't Star Trek sorry. Only in name, not in spirit. Only Roddenberry Verse Trek is true Trek.

    • @ForestTre
      @ForestTre 3 года назад

      @@emperorgizmo3014 Well with all due respect, your highness Then you don't know Star Trek.
      Because it is very Star Trek and is based directly off Roddenberrys original 1963 scripts and his Novels.
      And if you had read Roddenberrys Star Trek Phase 2 novels, you would know that We finally got to see the Klingons as Roddenberry originally wanted them.
      Because even Discoveries Klingons were based directly from Roddenberrys drawings of them before the tv censors neutered them for being to scary.
      Even the U.S.S. Discovery was borrowed from the Original design of the U.S.S Enterprise 1701A.
      And if you ever watched Star Trek the Motion picture you would have seen it, because it was one of the ships that VGer attacked.
      Discoverys first episode was taken directly from the scripts Roddebenberry had written for the Star Trek Phase 2 1975 tv Series. In the reboot Roddenberry had Kirk rebelling like Burnham did.
      If you truly knew anything about Trek then you would know the Original series was the watered down rewrite of Roddenberrys original scripts and films he wrote and shot for the Cage.
      Discovery is allowing us to see Roddenberrys full uncensored and uncut vision of what he originally envisioned and wanted to bring to TV.
      His Son was finally able to bring his fathers original scripts back to life with Discovery.
      So yes it is very much Star Trek
      Go read Roddenberrys Star Trek Phase 2 novels.

  • @tba113
    @tba113 4 года назад +5

    I get here and wade through the ads just in time for "Thanks for watching, please subscribe if you're new, and I'll see you next time!".
    Story of my life...

    • @GenerationFilms
      @GenerationFilms  4 года назад +5

      you can replay it lol

    • @MrGoesBoom
      @MrGoesBoom 4 года назад +1

      @@GenerationFilms Not the same as getting to watch it live mate

    • @ojisanhoward8940
      @ojisanhoward8940 4 года назад +2

      Always worth a 2nd or 3rd viewing! Kinda like 2nd and 3rd breakfast!

    • @tba113
      @tba113 4 года назад +1

      @@ojisanhoward8940 True enough. Fun fact: those _also_ fall under the category of "story of my life"!

    • @dustbunny2886
      @dustbunny2886 4 года назад

      its 2020 and u still don't have adblock ?

  • @GameOver-vk8sr
    @GameOver-vk8sr 4 года назад +1

    Finally another Star Trek video

  • @casbot71
    @casbot71 4 года назад +51

    The problem with Discovery's drive was if they miscalculated they could spontaneously create a _sperm whale and a bowl of petunias_ *in space.*
    That's why it was never used in the prime timeline, ethical reasons - and whale blubber raining down on planetary surfaces from orbit.

    • @ghekj
      @ghekj 4 года назад +11

      Not again...

    • @charlesmiller6826
      @charlesmiller6826 4 года назад +5

      Earth: mostly harmless

    • @thedivinityman
      @thedivinityman 4 года назад +8

      @@ghekj Curiously enough, the only thing that went through the mind of the bowl of petunias as it fell was Oh no, not again. Many people have speculated that if we knew exactly why the bowl of petunias had thought that we would know a lot more about the nature of the Universe than we do now.
      Gotta love Douglas Adams

    • @Gunnar001
      @Gunnar001 4 года назад +4

      The _Discovery_ and _Picard_ abominations have nothing to do with the prime Trek universe.

    • @notdeaded1416
      @notdeaded1416 4 года назад +2

      And the bowl of petunias thought of Kurtzman, “oh no, not again!”

  • @Kaylathefoxo
    @Kaylathefoxo 4 года назад +15

    was it just me that was dissapointed that they didn't show the enterprise in star trek picard

    • @drdreddmanofmystery9482
      @drdreddmanofmystery9482 4 года назад

      Yes.

    • @jupamoers
      @jupamoers 4 года назад

      Why would they show the ship? The show is about Picard, not the ship.
      Every single show is named after the ship as the main character...this one is named after the person as the main character

    • @Kaylathefoxo
      @Kaylathefoxo 4 года назад

      ​@@jupamoers star trek discovery was about the uss discovery however they still added the enterprise and i know a few people were pretty happy about that, every star trek series may be about a certain person or ship but the producers still insert cameos of other ships/people. another example being in the third season of discovery they added the uss voyager. Granted they added a hologram of a galaxy class ship that could have been the enterprise d but there was no clear markings, so would it not have hurt them to show the E or F at the end rather than what looks like the exact same class of ship 200 times? TL:DR just bc a show is named after a ship/person, doesnt mean the producers arent allowed to add a ship/person cameo.

    • @grigss3027
      @grigss3027 3 года назад

      @@Kaylathefoxo s3 of disc showed a dirivative of voyager, like ent 1701 and ent J. but you are right the showrunners should understand this.

    • @grigss3027
      @grigss3027 3 года назад

      @Fred Garven its kurtz trek why are you typing such long sentences for a show not worth 1/5 of that

  • @jetflaque8187
    @jetflaque8187 4 года назад +6

    generation films: 郑和
    Riker: ZING HEE
    Star trek fans: ah. the USS CNTRL V

  • @pimpinaintdeadho
    @pimpinaintdeadho 4 года назад +4

    @7:07 My dude, I don't know how you guys do conversions in the metric system but that's *2* torpedoes.

  • @sethmaki1333
    @sethmaki1333 4 года назад +23

    Interesting note, the three breasted woman in the Total Recall clip was played by Lycia Naff, who also played Ensign Sonja Gomez in two episodes of season two of TNG.

    • @jafleming0409
      @jafleming0409 4 года назад +6

      As a nod to TR they should have cast her as a three tit-tied mutant/alien. Riker would have porked her though, HAHAHA.

    • @BigKnGa
      @BigKnGa 4 года назад

      @@jafleming0409 lmaooooooooo

    • @eddiestone1509
      @eddiestone1509 4 года назад +1

      @@jafleming0409 Too right. Randy Riker would be like a kid with a new console/controller. hehe

    • @crabbyj
      @crabbyj 4 года назад

      @@eddiestone1509 - ROFL 🤣

    • @LabTech41
      @LabTech41 Год назад

      God, why is it just now I found that out; must've been the fact that she was playing two characters that couldn't be more polar opposite: an ensign that was more awkward and insular than Barclay, vs. a prostitute that wore clothes that made it clear she'd walk around naked if it wasn't for public indecency laws.

  • @paulus121212
    @paulus121212 4 года назад +1

    forgot blue and gray blue alert was for landing a starship voyager or cloking defiant
    gray alert was a aleret status where ship was on minimal power only no replicators no turbolifts to be used etc...

  • @larrytinsley4247
    @larrytinsley4247 8 месяцев назад

    this guy truly gets star trek

  • @moonkey2712
    @moonkey2712 3 года назад +47

    Most powerful ship: Q riding a bicycle

    • @Eradicator-jv9xr
      @Eradicator-jv9xr 3 года назад +2

      Ah yes, made out of tritanium alloys, with primary and secondary shields, Disruptors 5000x more powerful than the standard quantum torpedoes, this ship could kill entire fleets of borg cubes instantly.

    • @paulsedmak8388
      @paulsedmak8388 3 года назад +5

      Imagine the entire Q continuum on bicycles

    • @alecsandyr
      @alecsandyr 3 года назад +1

      @@paulsedmak8388 Or that one Q who falls asleep unaware while posing as a nematoad on some far-flung planet when the Borg attack, and somehow starts getting nano-assimilated.

    • @paulsedmak8388
      @paulsedmak8388 3 года назад +1

      @@alecsandyr can you hurt a Q?
      with normal weapons???

    • @averypage2784
      @averypage2784 3 года назад

      @@paulsedmak8388 perhapse the 8472 race

  • @JCResDoc94
    @JCResDoc94 4 года назад +1

    5:40 you cant scan all of pace time at once; you can slip thru. sometimes the changes made are less than intervening - it is all relative. you have to compare to the rest of time, and from your perspective. there are also time wars that mean regions of space and time are unscanable for periods. but, yeah: i made all that up.

  • @TravelWithCesarin
    @TravelWithCesarin 4 года назад +1

    The Zheng He looks like a Battlestar Galactica mixed with a Sovereing class.
    The armor looks like its always-active ablative armor.
    As for red alert, wasnt there a blue alert as well?

    • @jamoecw
      @jamoecw 4 года назад

      blue alert was for medical emergencies, typically quarantine procedures.

    • @sovietdominion
      @sovietdominion 4 года назад

      @@jamoecw wasn't also used for landing on voyager?

    • @jamoecw
      @jamoecw 4 года назад

      @@sovietdominion if it was still on Netflix i would watch that episode. it shouldn't have been used, yellow alert maybe though.

    • @maxrander0101
      @maxrander0101 4 года назад

      @@jamoecw get a vpn and change your login region and it will be still there i was watching them like yesterday

    • @jamoecw
      @jamoecw 4 года назад

      @@maxrander0101 good idea. i have a VPN, i will do that.

  • @Alewxx
    @Alewxx 4 года назад +9

    If just nothing after 2009 was included I, I just couldn't agree more^^

  • @christopherg2347
    @christopherg2347 3 года назад +2

    1:51 First, the "Tin Man" has a name: Gomtuu.
    Secondly: "The sounds from Tin Man's interior were a combination of whale sounds and a recording of sound designer Jim Wolvington digesting pizza, recorded through a stethoscope."
    So it definitely *sounded* like someones distestive System!
    4::10 4 Nacelle were pretty common too. There was even a 1-Nacelle thing, the Fredom Class.
    But still, 3 is a odd number. It is noticeable that they had a sort of "rule" for Ships in TNG: "The Nacelles must be able to see each other".
    5:47 Yes, it broke the Temporal directive of Voyagers time. But the Admiral died before she could be aprehended.
    And the Temporal agencies left *any* Timetravel slide that is full initiated from the past and part of their own history. Like they never interfered with the Whale Mission. Or the half dozen they did in DS9. Really any time travel done in any Star Trek show before.
    9:25 Did you just forget the part where the Reactor was also killing the Micelial network, thus potentially wiping out all life in the Multiverse?
    It could propably glass a planet on it's own in an hour (needs some time to fly around it), but it had the potential to kill more then any planetkiller ever could - by accident.

  • @SecretAgentE
    @SecretAgentE 4 года назад +5

    The Enterprise E was classified as a Sovereign Class Battlecruiser

    • @darknerd8332
      @darknerd8332 2 года назад

      Last i checked it was a battleship

  • @dbgillus
    @dbgillus 4 года назад +6

    Dude, Discovery is pretty good. I enjoyed the episodes. There were a couple of characters that I didn't like but I did enjoy the lead character. Also, Captain Pike was a plus for the show.

    • @seantaggart7382
      @seantaggart7382 3 года назад

      Nice

    • @TheMadsav1993
      @TheMadsav1993 2 года назад

      Season 1 was not not great but after that it was great . Most hate it cause its avoiding the cheesy stuff star trek had or they has openly gay characters or the main character isn't white

  • @999benhonda
    @999benhonda 3 года назад +1

    "the ship is the star of the show"...thank you, I 100% agree.

  • @TBHNotGonnaLie
    @TBHNotGonnaLie 4 года назад +4

    Star fleet should be pretty unstoppable with all the technology Jane way brought back

  • @eddiebrock2803
    @eddiebrock2803 2 месяца назад

    The Enterprise-D from 'All Good Things' was actually designed off of the design for the Federation 'Dreadnought' class, from the old 'Star Fleet Technical Manual', sporting the third nacelle. The original dreadnought class looked like a bigger version of the Enterprise (Constitution-class), with an extra nacelle, as the D we're talking about. It was supposed to be a 'combat' ship, contrary to the 'exploration' ship class, Constitution. You should pick up the book if you can still find it; it shows some GREAT designs that have never been seen.

  • @bardleyb9053
    @bardleyb9053 4 года назад

    Good rant. Well deserved. Keep on keeping on.

  • @casbot71
    @casbot71 4 года назад +4

    In Picard they unfortunately cut the scene at the very end where the *Zeng He* and the rest of the Starfleet Armada _ambush the Romulan fleet as they are "escorting" them out of Federation territory._
    *They had waited* till the Romulans were away from the Android Homeworld so no stray shots could take out the colony. After all leaving Commodore Oh alive was just too much of a security risk, she knew every detail of Starfleet Intelligence and could cripple their entire Spy Network…imagine if she went Wikileaks on them and friendly governments discovered they have been compromised and spied on.
    And also they wanted justice (and _revenge…_ but not saying that out loud) for the Mars Utopia Planetia terrorist attack catastrophe. The Romulan refugees condoned the destruction of the Zhat Vash after the fact, when it was pointed out that the Zhat Vash's actions had lead to the full scale evacuation of Romulas being abandoned. In fact it greatly improved the attitude to the Federation among the Romulan diaspora.
    Besides, the Zhat Vash are a very secretive group that obviously operate in cells, so it was the *only chance* to get them all together to eliminate them. Otherwise hunting down such a elusive threat would be extremely difficult and almost fruitless, it was decided once StarFleet had been informed of the truth that it would be a mission of elimination.
    As the Zhat Vash fleet was in warp with the Federation fleet following them, at a prearranged signal (using new protocols, cause of the security breaches in Starfleet Intelligence) all Starfleet ships simultaneously opened fire with quantum torpedoes at every Zhat Vash ship, targeting their warp cores.
    Not every Romulan ship was destroyed in the first volley, but the survivors were damaged enough to drop out of warp and be unable to cloak (although StarFleets cloaking countermeasures were far more effective at this time, to the point that even log cabins could be equipped to detect cloaked ships).
    Commodore Oh's ship was of course priority target number one and got hit with multiple torpedoes in the first salvo, obliterating it.
    The surviving ships were all mopped up with phaser fire, although some were captured for Intelligence and interrogation - StarFleet brought in the Betazoids and Vulcans for deep telepathic probes.
    With Narek in custody on the Android Homeworld and the prisoners and files they captured, Starfleet was able to completely wipe out the Zhat Vash, mopping up their hidden faculties and deep cover agents.
    But the episode length didn't allow this sequence, so it will only be referred to with dialogue in passing, in the next series - although there is hope of a director's cut extended edition.

    • @jamiengo2343
      @jamiengo2343 4 года назад +3

      This is a joke right?

    • @ghekj
      @ghekj 4 года назад +4

      @@jamiengo2343 Is it? I would totally think Kurtzman capable of making Riker give that kind of command. He assassinated literally every other TNG or VOY character he got his grubby, incompetent fingers on...

    • @jamiengo2343
      @jamiengo2343 4 года назад +2

      ghekj I didn’t know this was real or not, I was wondering whether this actually happens

    • @STSWB5SG1FAN
      @STSWB5SG1FAN 4 года назад +1

      @@ghekj One wonders though, was the entirety of the Zhat Vash wiped out? I don't think they'd be so foolish as to bring their ENTIRE force in on this operation. A hyper-secretive organization doesn't last for so long in already hyper-secretive Romulan society by acting rashly. It was postulated that Cmd. Oh's vessel was the only CREWED ship, the rest, smaller ships, were remotely piloted. Thus not requiring all that much manpower for this operation.

    • @ghekj
      @ghekj 4 года назад +2

      @@STSWB5SG1FAN You're still looking for sense in a series that makes none.

  • @thetallman9531
    @thetallman9531 3 года назад +1

    Me seeing the thumbnail: Is that a star in the middle of that ship? That's a STAR in the middle of that ship. Yes to anything you have to say about THAT.

  • @Liopleurodon
    @Liopleurodon 4 года назад +2

    10:10 what are you talking about? Everybody knows the "Zheng He" is Copy-Paste-Class. Also its speculated that Riker, as an old poker veteran, is bluffing like crazy in this scene :P

    • @GenerationFilms
      @GenerationFilms  4 года назад +1

      copy paste class, thats funny

    • @artembentsionov
      @artembentsionov 4 года назад +1

      Except the person he’s telling it to would be perfectly aware of the ship, given her position in Starfleet

  • @benjaminmjchan1377
    @benjaminmjchan1377 3 года назад

    I do appreciate your pronunciation for Zheng He, quite accurate!

  • @stevenewman1393
    @stevenewman1393 2 года назад +1

    🖖😎👍Very well done and very well explained and informative indeed 👌.

  • @vonfaustien3957
    @vonfaustien3957 4 года назад +33

    How about the discovery its so powerfull it landed a mortal wound on an entire franchise

    • @TravelWithCesarin
      @TravelWithCesarin 4 года назад +2

      the tears of the "true fans" are delicious XD

    • @Gunnar001
      @Gunnar001 4 года назад +4

      Cesarin Pillin Yes. Actual Star Trek fans hate all the new dumpster fires that shit all over the franchise.

    • @TravelWithCesarin
      @TravelWithCesarin 4 года назад +2

      @@Gunnar001 your tears still taste delicious.
      You sound like those neckbeard guys from Gamergate. Getting angry that "their" gaming niche was being "invaded" by other groups and started to cry "SJWS!" like morons to anything new or different. :D

    • @ranekeisenkralle8265
      @ranekeisenkralle8265 4 года назад

      Not just Disgracery, but actually any ship in the franchise that JJ Abrams and his crony Kurtzman were involved with. Doesn't get a whole lot more destructive than the annihilation of an entire "reality"

    • @snonsig2688
      @snonsig2688 4 года назад

      @@TravelWithCesarin the thing is discovery isn't bad because it's different. it's bad because it's different while telling us it's the same, making it extremely inaccurate

  • @reverendbernfriedaxewielde8443
    @reverendbernfriedaxewielde8443 2 года назад

    What did you cut out of the USS Vengeance section?

  • @robertkerecz7467
    @robertkerecz7467 3 года назад +1

    As someone who has HATED every star trek series after voyager, I loved discovery. Let things change and evolve or risk them dying out. Discovery and Picard are the first times I've given a sh*t abour star trek in years and I used to watch religiously.

  • @Ashura_Typhoon
    @Ashura_Typhoon 4 года назад

    I may not like star trek, but I can respect the nod to total recall. Helped shape my childhood

  • @patferguson5395
    @patferguson5395 4 года назад +1

    I love the Prometheus. Anyone who studys war realizes that you must always out flank your opponent to win. 1 ship 3 different flanks. I'm 47 by the way.

  • @dennisud
    @dennisud 3 года назад

    Thanks for representing Trek on this channel as a few others have on other related Channels! Qua-Pla!

  • @LancetFencing
    @LancetFencing 4 года назад +4

    The third nacelle is for the saucer when it separates or at least that’s how it should be

    • @GenerationFilms
      @GenerationFilms  4 года назад +4

      that would make more sense

    • @RyanMarice
      @RyanMarice 4 года назад

      @@MAL53.. it's a nacelle, not the engine. It warps space from energy fed to it by the thing you see in engineering, the warp core reaction chamber.

  • @Janoha17
    @Janoha17 4 года назад +3

    Khan was a genius...in the 20th-21st Century.

  • @oliverrichardson7856
    @oliverrichardson7856 4 года назад

    We are agree with the ship rant at the end!

  • @branislavskrecko3861
    @branislavskrecko3861 4 года назад +6

    "USS DIscovery. An ugly ship from an awful show" - you just earned yourself a LIKE!

    • @cyberfux
      @cyberfux 4 года назад +1

      @Alan J That was the only believable thing - i was 120 kg in my prime and got my ass kicked by a 50kg female sergeant in unarmed combat - these asian martial arts really are big into "a smaller skilled opponent beats a bigger unskilled one every day".
      According to a friend serving with me it looked like "that blond chick from Xena flingin a fucking cyclops around the room" (yeah it was 1995 so Xena was a thing)...
      Or if we ant to stay in universe Jadzia beating up klingons by the bakers dozen...

    • @seantaggart7382
      @seantaggart7382 3 года назад

      *jumps behind you* Well either way
      I still enjoy it
      *Fires Missiles*
      Boom

  • @yossibivas
    @yossibivas 4 года назад +45

    Laughs about mispronunciation of a Chinese name then proceeds to mispronounce Charon of greek mythology (Χάρων)...

    • @yossibivas
      @yossibivas 4 года назад +3

      @OriginalTharios In a half related topic, Charon, in its Greek pronunciation, means Wrath in Hebrew (biblical and modern). That's a fitting name for that ship.

    • @ANTSEMUT1
      @ANTSEMUT1 4 года назад +1

      I've heard much worse pronunciation of Admiral Zheng He, it's one of the better ones really.

    • @yorgosbalian
      @yorgosbalian 4 года назад +1

      and with great confidence he gets it wrong

    • @jesusmora9379
      @jesusmora9379 4 года назад +1

      i though it was kharon

    • @yossibivas
      @yossibivas 4 года назад

      @@jesusmora9379 Both Charon and Kharon are acceptable in English (probably) since it does not have an equivalent letter for the Greek letter Chi (Χ)

  • @artembentsionov
    @artembentsionov 4 года назад +2

    The best crewmembers working on the mushroom drive: the Mario brothers!

    • @nagash303
      @nagash303 3 года назад

      The ship will instantly gain size.

  • @gordiebrooks
    @gordiebrooks 3 года назад

    You are 100% correct !! The ship and what it can do is the best part of the show. You could say it’s is it’s own character.

  • @Kraigor1701
    @Kraigor1701 3 года назад

    I have a question I have always wondered about, why aren’t there any kinetic weapons in the Star Trek Universe (except for the transporter equipped DS9 rifle)

  • @jtturner6440
    @jtturner6440 3 года назад +1

    I think the temporal guys just got tired of dealing with Janeway.

  • @seancochran8251
    @seancochran8251 2 года назад

    I took Will Riker's statement about the 'USS Zheng He' as a Poker Bluff. Basically an I'm All In and I really don't want you to call my bluff bc my Jack high won't hold up. Riker always had a good Poker Face in the TNG Poker games on ship.

  • @timothycarney7841
    @timothycarney7841 3 года назад

    Btw...you mention the purpose of 3 nacelles on the 'All Good Things' Enterprise-D refit...what about all the other odd number nacelled ships in Canon?

  • @belliott538
    @belliott538 4 года назад

    Egad... That Egg Beater bit Discovery does when entering Spore Drive is something I saw my Boys (6 & 4) do with their Toy space ships to indicate jumps or Battle Maneuvers. Many moons ago and I only saw the first episode of Disco... only took the one to determine I wasn't inclined to Pay for that Tripe!
    I'll take the Defiant any Ole day and be Happy for it!
    Cheers!

  • @deandentist1038
    @deandentist1038 3 года назад

    Impressed by your pronounciation of Zheng He

  • @ohyeahgamer3736
    @ohyeahgamer3736 4 года назад

    Glad your back

  • @cmdrtianyilin8107
    @cmdrtianyilin8107 4 года назад

    Okay, so mention of Timeship Relativity, Temporal Dreadnought like Paradox class, no mention of Tzenkethi ships with devastating Diffusive Tetryon weapons, command battleships like Concorde class, non federation ships like Iconian Vonph and Iaidon class, Na'Kuhl Tadari and Daemosh timeships, Tholian meshweavers and tarantula class, Borg Unimatrix command ship, Borg Time travel spheres, Na'Kuhl time portals and of course, Vaadwaur juggernaut, Vaadwaur Astika and Manasa Artillery ships?
    Conveniently omitted.

  • @razorsharp9455
    @razorsharp9455 4 года назад +5

    First comment after live video. Y’all didn’t even know this was live at first

  • @ditzydoo4378
    @ditzydoo4378 4 года назад +10

    Number 03 is pronounced "Whoose-Nock" like Goose, not "Hus-Nock" as in Hustle.

    • @ANIMOUS8
      @ANIMOUS8 4 года назад +1

      Thank you. Ours ironic since he questions Riker on the pronunciation of the #10 ship. Lol

    • @ditzydoo4378
      @ditzydoo4378 4 года назад

      @@ANIMOUS8 your welcome.. I find even a Thesaurus for non-made up words quite challenging at times.

  • @lolzhammer8281
    @lolzhammer8281 4 года назад

    Approx. 4:40 Sorry, but you're wrong here. That was not a phase cannon, Riker explains in the episode that it is specifically a phase LANCE... a class of phaser weapon normally mounted only on stations due to its power requirements and recoil. Yes, you read that right, recoil. That's why his personal, up gunned Enterprise D had that 3rd warp nacelle: to both power and overcome the recoil of, that massive weapon.

  • @joshreyes3624
    @joshreyes3624 3 года назад +1

    Uh, the "Enterprise D" that you described was just the Dreadnought. The same way that a retrofitted modern warship can have its class updated, so can Starfleet ships.
    Plus, the power of warp depends on the actual shape, composition and number of warp coils. Another nacelle would in fact generate more energy in the warp field. Plasma from the warp core is introduced into the coils and they generate the field around the ship, kind of like electromagnets with electricity.

  • @andrewtaylor1935
    @andrewtaylor1935 3 года назад

    the three nacelles are a throw back to the dreadnaught for the TOS tech manual by franze Joseph

  • @charleswade2514
    @charleswade2514 4 года назад

    I agree, space battles and great ship views.

  • @joeottsoulbikes415
    @joeottsoulbikes415 4 года назад

    English Ben!!!! I feel like we haven't seen you much as of late. More Ben and Star Trek please!

  • @deicidemaul
    @deicidemaul 3 года назад

    Might be wrong here but I think the reason for the nacelles being where they are, and not "inside" the ship has to do with radiation originally, and I can only assume the point of three nacelles is to create a bigger warpfield?

  • @SteveTheDeathStarGunner74
    @SteveTheDeathStarGunner74 4 года назад +2

    Riker could have been bluffing. As he usually does. He told that to the Romulan admiral spy (Where was section 13 during all this? How did they allow a Romulan spy take over as head of Starfleet intelligence?) to keep her guessing. The Zheng He looked exactly like every other ship in that fleet, so are ALL those ships The Most Powerful to that date? Unlikely...

    • @GenerationFilms
      @GenerationFilms  4 года назад +4

      After he says that thing about the ship being most powerful, he says "and I have a fleet of them at my back" so I am guessing they were all ships of the same class

    • @tomasr.
      @tomasr. 4 года назад +1

      @@GenerationFilms They were built in unknown regions, each of them has a cannon capable of destroying the planet, oh wrong franchise...

    • @ghekj
      @ghekj 4 года назад +1

      @@tomasr. Don't sweat it. Makes as much sense as every other explanation, as to why the Federation of all factions suddenly has a giant fleet of massive warships, specifically built for combat instead of exploration.
      That, or Janeway was responsible for the militarization.

    • @tomasr.
      @tomasr. 4 года назад

      @@ghekj Picard doesn't get a single ship and Riker gets a whole fleet of warships 😥

    • @JaredLS10
      @JaredLS10 4 года назад

      @@ghekj Janeway being the voice to militarize makes sense. She knows she dealt the Borg a big blow but once they recover they are going to want Voyagers tech and data, add on the fact a good portion of the old (exploration style ships) were destroyed during the Dominion war and the federation had already been slowly building up its anti-borg fleet of ships. Look at real world Navies, the U.S. has been pumping out the same style of destroyer since the 90's, its cheaper and easier to maintain a single platform rather then multiple platforms with different equipment.

  • @markcolella5382
    @markcolella5382 4 года назад

    The sovereign class, in my opinion, is the pinnacle of Starfleet design and technology. They took all the lessons learned and rolled them into one, with an actual purpose for it's mission's sake. That's why the Enterprise E was so deadly and effective, making the enemies poop themselves in it's presence.

    • @GenerationFilms
      @GenerationFilms  4 года назад +1

      Sovereign class is just so elegant, like a luxury yacht or something

    • @markcolella5382
      @markcolella5382 4 года назад

      @@GenerationFilms I completely agree, so elegant! That's why it's so deadly, it's beauty is what makes adversaries forget it has some serious teeth. It's the perfect smokescreen for its deadly potential, making the enemy think your just "pretty" and underestimate you.

  • @kargandarr
    @kargandarr Год назад

    On the Galaxy Dreadnought, that third nacelle is connected to a secondary warpcore that is meant to power weapons and shields. Why did number 8 end up as the modified Roddenberry reject?

  • @chadwickmccarty4944
    @chadwickmccarty4944 4 года назад

    That TNG episode involving the Douwd & the Husnock was a good morality episode. The Tin Man, real name Gomtuu, was a really good episode. I hope a proper model is made of Picard's Zheng He class eventually instead of the low detail given in the episode.

    • @darwinxavier3516
      @darwinxavier3516 4 года назад

      That episode with the Husnock also showed why it was bullshit that the Enterprise was destroyed by a single bird of prey in Generations.

  • @Emanon...
    @Emanon... 4 года назад +11

    You get "Zheng He" right but screw up "Charon"...

    • @yorgosbalian
      @yorgosbalian 4 года назад

      But got it wrong with great confidence

    • @Emanon...
      @Emanon... 4 года назад +1

      @@yorgosbalian Somehow, that's very American...

    • @sciencefliestothemoon2305
      @sciencefliestothemoon2305 4 года назад

      How the does Zheng He translate into what he pronounce?

    • @bluehavencd
      @bluehavencd 4 года назад

      Thinking the same. Charon is pronounced like Karen.

    • @derekscanlan4641
      @derekscanlan4641 4 года назад

      yep! if ur gunna try-out nerd someone... make sure ur standing on solid ground first
      besides... as riker pronounced it, zheng he could be called an Anglicisation of the chinese pronunciation

  • @khitb77
    @khitb77 4 года назад

    Weren't the shields on the Batmobile Ben referred to in Batman Returns, Michael Keaton's 2nd Batman film?

  • @SteelWolf13
    @SteelWolf13 2 года назад +1

    Pronunciation. They say it many times in the show. - Not Hus-knock. It's Whos-nock

  • @RandomGamer-qy6ys
    @RandomGamer-qy6ys 3 года назад +1

    Just think there is a time Corp hundreds of years in the future watching us watch startrek thinking about it being impossible.

  • @kenmarkum2202
    @kenmarkum2202 3 года назад

    I understand that there's a lot of people that don't like the Prometheus but I happen to love it and wish that it had been used as voyager as intended...I would like to see the complete breakdown of said ship if at all possible...

  • @paulstone22
    @paulstone22 2 года назад

    how can you not like Discovery! it was absolutley brilliant.

    • @jaydee4479
      @jaydee4479 Год назад +1

      I know why does he hate discovery? He needs to explain!

  • @mattlewandowski73
    @mattlewandowski73 4 года назад

    So... As I pointed out in the previous video, based on the TOS tech manual, yes indeed within the startrek adding more nacelle seems to correspond to the size and strength of the ship. From the single nacelle of the scout class to the twin nacelles of the cruisers such as the original enterprise to the triple nacelles of the dreadnought class. The alternate timeline Enterprise D is simple a nod back to those earlier designs.

  • @UncleMikeDrop
    @UncleMikeDrop 4 года назад

    What is it with super ships/weapons and glaring weak spots?

    • @darwinxavier3516
      @darwinxavier3516 4 года назад +1

      Because if they didn't have weak spots then the writers would actually have to think of creative strategies to escape the corner they wrote themselves into.

    • @UncleMikeDrop
      @UncleMikeDrop 4 года назад

      @@darwinxavier3516 I didn't think an infiltration subplot was that difficult. LOL

  • @Jeff55369
    @Jeff55369 3 года назад

    I didn't watch more than a couple episodes of discovery. When the clip you showed had it spinning and blinking around, I actually laughed said outload, "what the hell is that!?" It's like a crappy Saturday morning cartoon.

  • @seanbigay1042
    @seanbigay1042 4 года назад

    Just wanted to post this -- I have always thought of the USS Defiant as Starfleet's Little Bitch That Could, and the USS Enterprise-E as Picard's Rocket Bomb