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    Most Chaos Astartes are insufferable - one dimensional boring villains. Not Argel Tal though - he is somehow the most demonic bad guy whilst also being the most likeable guy - today we find out way
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  • @majorkill
    @majorkill  Год назад +277

    To think that it would be a Word Bearer out of all Legions to become BFFs with the Custodes.
    Just goes to show just special Argel was... shame how it ended though aye
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    • @obuniaaron3700
      @obuniaaron3700 Год назад +1

      I ain't late

    • @TravelerZ24
      @TravelerZ24 Год назад +1

      Kratos vs 40k would be a good way to catch the remaining hype for God of War Ragnarok

    • @Irobert1115HD
      @Irobert1115HD Год назад

      why do i get the feeling that a story about a chaos marine that knows that hes wrong and kinda actas as anti villain whenever he feels like it might seeeeeeeeeeeeeellllllllll?

    • @briharrisWarhmmer40kfan
      @briharrisWarhmmer40kfan Год назад

      Just letting you know bro that I keep unsubscribing from your channel without me doing it, dunno what is going on mate, anyway keep up the good work you kangaroo molester or I will meet you in Tanzania for a battle to the death with the only weapons allowed will be trained koalas like Pokémon meets a snuff movie

    • @briharrisWarhmmer40kfan
      @briharrisWarhmmer40kfan Год назад +1

      Meant Tasmania

  • @andrewhirschi1026
    @andrewhirschi1026 Год назад +567

    “We’re definitely on the wrong side kharne” kharne replied with, “how can you say that?”
    “Because both sides are wrong”
    When argel tal said this in betrayer he might’ve become my favorite character in 40K

    • @raipe125
      @raipe125 Год назад +32

      But they have alpharius... And the other too

    • @woollahraswanderings4385
      @woollahraswanderings4385 Год назад

      K* [p ,o v^

    • @wiilov
      @wiilov 11 месяцев назад +23

      This was why Argel had to die. He realized the punchline too soon.

    • @appalachianwarcriminal
      @appalachianwarcriminal 4 месяца назад

      what's the joke here i don't get it

  • @kelleren4840
    @kelleren4840 Год назад +477

    Custodians: "Wait... so you're telling us...a platoon of demi-god super-soldiers of herculean power AND one of our custodians got overwhelmed by... a local force of planetary tribesmen? And you lost 90% of the expeditionary force....?"
    Word Bearers: "Thaaaaat's what I'm telling you."
    Custodians: "Absolutely reasonable. No further explanation necessary!"

    • @AbhisarRawat
      @AbhisarRawat Год назад +103

      "You think we are stupid? You all will be purged"
      Argel Tal: "He aint lying bro"
      "Oh ok Understandable"

    • @VampireNewl
      @VampireNewl Год назад +41

      "uhhh, the Custodies tripped and fell down some stairs"

    • @nopejhonson958
      @nopejhonson958 Год назад

      @@VampireNewl damn again... too much body oil and not enough power armor... ruclips.net/video/a3k8g5oX97E/видео.html

    • @OccultistResearcher
      @OccultistResearcher Год назад +5

      @@VampireNewl fair nuff

    • @trolldrool
      @trolldrool 11 месяцев назад +6

      Custodians: "I always thought that guy was too weak to be one of us."

  • @Iron_Lord_Akerix
    @Iron_Lord_Akerix Год назад +736

    I love the lore behind Argel Tal
    He's a great space marine and it's sad how he was betrayed by Erebus that god damn dick head ruins everything

    • @xsjado_anon
      @xsjado_anon Год назад +47

      Poor guy just wanted to save his very angry friend :(

    • @TheBreaker153
      @TheBreaker153 Год назад

      “Great space marine” complicit in the greatest act of betrayal and bloodshed. Kills fellow space marines. Betrays his oath. Fuck Erebus but I’m glad he killed that demon fuck

    • @Mountaineerfreak75
      @Mountaineerfreak75 Год назад +28

      If there's a punch bowl anywhere in the galaxy, Erebus is the turd floating in it.

    • @littleaqua32
      @littleaqua32 Год назад +26

      17:12
      Kharn pulling behind Erebus ready to commit unspeakable violence upon Erebus was hilarious tho

    • @bluedog843
      @bluedog843 Год назад +20

      Khárn and Erebus’ duel was so fucking good. Especially how even the other World Eaters were shocked at how much he changed after Argel Tal’s death. It’s genuinely sad because it was Argel Tal who would keep Khárn as focused as possible and as human as a traitor World Eater can be. Erebus genuinely ruins everything.

  • @recklessmadman1597
    @recklessmadman1597 Год назад +364

    Best boy out of Word Bearers. There is something special about that he knows and realises how f*cked up this galaxy and the gods, but still serving in the name of his primarch.
    And the fact that he felt regret after he killed the loyalists and Custodes makes him even more badass.

    • @bdiaz9112
      @bdiaz9112 Год назад

      That gene coded loyalty is a total bitch. Remind me of how clones in sw are forced to undergo order 66

    • @AustralianBlueMage
      @AustralianBlueMage Год назад +12

      For a daemon-possessed post-human, he's incredibly human.

    • @slkjvlkfsvnlsdfhgdght5447
      @slkjvlkfsvnlsdfhgdght5447 Год назад +7

      i mean, it's good that Argel Tal at least feels bad about all the horrible shit he's doing, but he's still doing horrible shit and not once did his moral qualms actually stop him from doing horrible shit, so i don't think that's worth too much

    • @kiloklavdi1185
      @kiloklavdi1185 Год назад

      ​@@slkjvlkfsvnlsdfhgdght5447 That can be said to a lot of people in 40k

    • @wiilov
      @wiilov 11 месяцев назад +4

      Somehow, adding a daemon to a genetic-altered bioweapon IMPROVED empathy. Go figure.

  • @lalas3590
    @lalas3590 Год назад +198

    Argel Tal also knew Sevatar and they mutually respected each other.
    Before the Dropsite Massacre Argel's speech inspired Sevatar to shout "Death to the False Emperor" which became the traitor's motto.
    However during the Dropsite Massacre, Sevatar saw Argel Tal's demon form and was disgusted.
    When the battle ended Argel wanted to pay respect to Sevatar by shaking hands and Sevatar spat at him.

    • @osirisshadoll4572
      @osirisshadoll4572 Год назад +55

      Base Sevatar, the true son of Curze, the embody of Justice, Judgement and Punishment

    • @realwaifus5514
      @realwaifus5514 Год назад +21

      Even more based when you remember that Astartes spit acid

    • @jcm-x2407
      @jcm-x2407 18 дней назад

      Not sure if I'll get a response because old comment but, what book does this happen in?

  • @trimeerious4349
    @trimeerious4349 Год назад +328

    Getting a video about how each of the pre-heresy primarchs would react to being in Guillimans situation would be pretty cool ngl seeing their different ruling styles would be great

    • @ZajiSabb
      @ZajiSabb Год назад +13

      Man we were asking that for so long...
      Aaaaaa

    • @goldxahn5247
      @goldxahn5247 Год назад +9

      Not the first time you ask I think. Best of luck!

    • @trimeerious4349
      @trimeerious4349 Год назад +8

      @@goldxahn5247 I've been asking for weeks

    • @trimeerious4349
      @trimeerious4349 Год назад +7

      I started from the 400,000 subscriber video

    • @calebtheholyman545
      @calebtheholyman545 Год назад +7

      Try changing up the wording and adding a days posted counter

  • @blakemcilwain2501
    @blakemcilwain2501 Год назад +87

    I find it interesting that Erebus and Kor both note that they had to keep Lorgar away from Argel Tal because Lorgar already had doubts about spreading the truth about chaos and with Argel by his side he almost certainly wouldn't have done it.
    It's also funny that of the three Argel was the only one Lorgar actually liked and Lorgar had sent Erebus and Kor to Calth to die.
    Hell even in 40k some word bearers hate Erebus for striking "down the legion's brightest star"

    • @LaughingJokerProd
      @LaughingJokerProd Год назад

      Imperium: Fuck Erebus
      Chaos: Fuck Erebus

    • @AdeptKing
      @AdeptKing 10 месяцев назад +4

      Really hammers home how messed up he is if that bunch of lunatics hate him for killing Argel Tal.

  • @williamredmond8128
    @williamredmond8128 Год назад +43

    When Lorgar asked Kharn if he wanted to know who killed Argel Tal and Kharn going beast mode is one of the best scenes ever in a HH book.

    • @certifiedsexhaver8400
      @certifiedsexhaver8400 Год назад

      Which book? I’m tryna read ab Erebus getting his cheeks split asunder

    • @williamredmond8128
      @williamredmond8128 Год назад +2

      @@certifiedsexhaver8400 Book 24 Betrayer, by Aaron Dembski-Bowden. I would read First Heretic and Aurelian first if you haven't, they are great and give great background.

    • @alma_h2410
      @alma_h2410 Год назад +1

      What connection did the Khan had with Argel Tal?

    • @alma_h2410
      @alma_h2410 Год назад +1

      Or did you mispelled Kharn?

    • @williamredmond8128
      @williamredmond8128 Год назад +1

      @@alma_h2410 I did misspelled Kharn.

  • @silversurfer8818
    @silversurfer8818 Год назад +324

    (Excerpt: The First Heretic) Vendatha the awesome Custodian!
    Lorgar was at ease, his muscles loose. He actually expected his offer of truce to hold some weight, and that lapse in judgement was enough for Vendatha to take the chance. He pulled the haft-trigger, and his spear’s underslung bolter cracked off a stream of rounds on full-auto.
    Argel Tal saw it coming. The swords of red iron smashed the first three bolts aside, their power fields strong enough to detonate the shells as they streaked towards the primarch’s heart. The explosions threw the captain to the ground, his grey armour scraping along the stone with the shriek of offended ceramite.
    Vendatha was already in motion. The golden warrior leapt at the primarch, guardian spear spinning in his fists, an oath to the Emperor on his lips. Four Word Bearers blocked his path, and those four Word Bearers had to die.
    Rikus was the first to fall. The Custodian’s blade crunched into the soft, jointed armour at the Chaplain’s throat, punching from the back of his neck. Tsar Quorel died next, decapitated with a buzzing sweep of the energised blade, dead before he’d pulled his trigger.
    Deumos managed to fire a stream of bolt shells, none of which connected. Vendatha weaved left, thudded the base of his spear into the Chapter Master’s bolter, knocking it aside, and followed with a cutting swing that sheared both the Word Bearer’s hands from his body, severing them at the forearms. Deumos had a scarce moment to draw in a stunned gasp before the spear sliced again, this time cleaving through his collarbone and spine, ripping his head free. Vendatha span the blade in his hands, letting it come to rest with the tip and gun barrel aimed at Lorgar’s heart again. Behind the Custodian, the bodies crashed to the ground in slow succession.
    Three seconds had passed.

    • @AbhisarRawat
      @AbhisarRawat Год назад +70

      "We'll avoid these guys if we become demons" -Lorgar

    • @TheSonOfDumb
      @TheSonOfDumb Год назад +60

      Such power. To humans, Chaos and Imperial alike, transhumans such as space marines, custodes, and even mechanicum adepts are viewed with awe, adoration and respect. But the Eldar see them as absolute abominations. Who would transform himself into a monster? Interesting perspective.
      The Emperor made weapons of mass destruction in the shape of men, and with their hands they wrought mankind's doom.

    • @argeltalthecustodiankiller6552
      @argeltalthecustodiankiller6552 Год назад +3

      You mess the part when he tal throat the weapon at the custodian face

    • @AbhisarRawat
      @AbhisarRawat Год назад +1

      @@argeltalthecustodiankiller6552 it's called a betrayal

    • @argeltalthecustodiankiller6552
      @argeltalthecustodiankiller6552 Год назад

      @@AbhisarRawat no it was in first heretic book that seen he was talking about

  • @PelinalDidNothingWrong
    @PelinalDidNothingWrong Год назад +41

    *Yet another fantastic episode of "Erebus ruins everything!"*

  • @Mathijsvand
    @Mathijsvand Год назад +215

    I actually thought Argel Tal was going to betray the Word Bearers in the end. It is very obvious that he questioned almost everything about the Heresy and that he only ended up serving because of Lorgar, all the time questioning his loyalty to him, as he saw Lorgar descend deeper and deeper into madness.

    • @brianaguila6925
      @brianaguila6925 Год назад +31

      And now I see why Malcador chose loyalist astartes from traitor legions for his knights errants. Their loyalty to the emperor was THAT strong even if they're wired to be loyal to their primarchs .

    • @rayhanmustakim7073
      @rayhanmustakim7073 Год назад +10

      Imagine Argel Tal becoming one of the Knight Errants and eventually one of founders of Grey Knights.

    • @lolbots686
      @lolbots686 Год назад +5

      @@rayhanmustakim7073 unlikely. But i have a interesting idea
      My headcanon is that had argal kill erebus with raums advice,argal would resolve himself to find kharn and do something involving finding a way out of the bullshit going on
      My idea is that if this happened,argal and kharn would rally those astartes or others not desiring to help either and create there own mini faction to protect

    • @rayhanmustakim7073
      @rayhanmustakim7073 Год назад +4

      @@lolbots686 Maybe making their own Blackshields right?

    • @lolbots686
      @lolbots686 Год назад +2

      @@rayhanmustakim7073 possibly. Tbh itd be quite the interesting turnout that argal through raum figures out how to purify daemons partially,being one of the few beings able to calm the warp or parts of it

  • @GreasusGoldtooth
    @GreasusGoldtooth Год назад +84

    Lorgar charging in to save his sons when he knew for a fact he would not win against Corax is one of the reasons he is my favorite Primarch.

    • @henrypaleveda7760
      @henrypaleveda7760 Год назад +16

      Perturabo is my favorite traitor primarch because of his competence.

    • @adrienwatson2179
      @adrienwatson2179 Год назад +18

      Lorgars character journey in the First Heretic was exceptional

    • @zacharyhernandez1483
      @zacharyhernandez1483 Год назад +2

      @@henrypaleveda7760 and the fact he actually had a reason to be angry... iron within, iron without.... but God dammit give me my dues

    • @henrypaleveda7760
      @henrypaleveda7760 Год назад +4

      @@zacharyhernandez1483 Yeah.it's unfortunate how badlyu he misread Ferrus saying that he didn't understand. That was Ferrus trying to offer sympathy and saying that he didn't know, I love how autistic the primarchs can be at times. yes i like the black templars too.

    • @flynnpowell8884
      @flynnpowell8884 Месяц назад

      Hot take, normally everyone things Lorgar is a living speck of infectious vag yeast. Kudos for being on his side for once lol

  • @znalniaskas
    @znalniaskas Год назад +54

    Possessed Argel was bigger than a Primarch and dual wielded Custodes weapons. Now imagine that guy with the blessing of the 4 chaos gods and a Primarch weapon as the chad version of the warmaster of chaos, probaby actual Primarch-tier.
    PS: Argel Tal's FW mini is just badass.

    • @ABCefgy
      @ABCefgy Год назад +2

      Stop the cap

    • @bmmac6797
      @bmmac6797 7 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@ABCefgy its not that far off, dude was still getting more badass AND more rebellious

  • @NP3GA
    @NP3GA Год назад +1607

    Day thirty nine of asking majorkill to compare Abaddon and Archaeon

  • @ruffymon
    @ruffymon Год назад +135

    Talos and Argel Tal are two great written Chaos Characters.
    I wished there were more

    • @Shawaeon
      @Shawaeon Год назад +19

      ADB is a master of writing good bad guys.

    • @ruffymon
      @ruffymon Год назад +5

      @@Shawaeon True

    • @bluedog843
      @bluedog843 Год назад +5

      @@Shawaeon and that’s why he’s probably my favorite author. Ever. He manages to humanize the literal evil guys.

    • @chrissummerfeldt2618
      @chrissummerfeldt2618 Год назад +6

      Khayon is also great. In the end I never would have thought I'd feel sorry for Uzas. Quite honestly all of first claw are written great.

    • @Iceisnice1
      @Iceisnice1 Год назад +2

      While not technically chaos per se, Fabius Bile is amazing in his trilogy. Josh Reynolds does a lot to humanize him without taking away from the monster that he is.

  • @SlaaneshiChosen_Carmena
    @SlaaneshiChosen_Carmena Год назад +62

    The most interesting revelation from Argel’s story is that the reason it is called The Imperial Truth is that it is not reality, it is the reality The Emperor seeks to create, although he claims it is reality.
    The Wordbearers, per their name, see themselves as bearing the weight of the Actual reality of the cosmos for better or worse, and therefore see the emperor, not as a visionary, but as a liar, ignoring the fact that this reality can be changed.

    • @SlaaneshiChosen_Carmena
      @SlaaneshiChosen_Carmena Год назад +19

      If you ever read a chaos character refer to the emperor as a liar, this is the lie they are referring to, and the unspoken debate that is occurring: should the nature of the universe be accepted, or should we seek to change the entire universe to align with our beliefs?
      As a result of this debate Lorgar is both the most and least logical character is 40k, acting in accordance to the facts, but ignoring their context.

  • @adedimberline
    @adedimberline Год назад +29

    Tal, Torgaddon, Aximand, Tarvitz, Loken, all of those early Heresy characters are spot on.

  • @edim108
    @edim108 Год назад +43

    Imagine if every Chaos Space Marine was written as well as Argel Tal or Talos. Chaos would be a lot more interesting if that were the case.

    • @callumcochrane7759
      @callumcochrane7759 Год назад +7

      Yeah but there's less money in spikey marines than goody two shoes so that ain't happening

    • @steffenronsch8881
      @steffenronsch8881 Год назад +2

      Chaos has the best written characters. Normal spacemarines are the worst.

    • @bmmac6797
      @bmmac6797 7 месяцев назад +1

      I think the chaos marines are more human than loyalists, and not from an edgy teen standpoint. They really see the truth, the loyalists for the most part are still completely blind. Think about 50% of traitor legion having to be purged and the perspective they would have, but knowing loyalists would just mow them down...

  • @j4nk3n
    @j4nk3n Год назад +35

    Argel tal being bros with kharn and having his respect tells you how much of a Chad argel is

  • @Pyre
    @Pyre Год назад +15

    Huh. Never expected to find this point in 40k, but;
    Argel's life is one of the best possible *counters* to the phrase "If it can be destroyed by the truth, it deserves to be."

  • @outdude
    @outdude Год назад +10

    I swear, his self analysis about not knowing if his loyalty to Lorgar was genetic or genuine was so spot on. Based on his personality Argal was betrayed by himself, he wasn’t a bootlicker, that’s why he betrayed his friends (the custodians) for his father even though he didn’t like what his father was doing.

  • @seanjones2524
    @seanjones2524 Год назад +19

    One of my favourite sad, relatable moments in the entire lore was when Argel spoke with Sevatar and how Sevatar responded.

  • @alexanderimmortal4354
    @alexanderimmortal4354 Год назад +53

    Even the Custodes liked him and trusted him and he killed them, man is an absolute bro ❤️✌️

  • @PelinalDidNothingWrong
    @PelinalDidNothingWrong Год назад +7

    Argel Tal is the best Word Bearer character and proof that Erebus really does ruin everything

  • @SlaaneshiChosen_Carmena
    @SlaaneshiChosen_Carmena Год назад +8

    Although all three seek to understand the universe, a scientist seeks to change reality, a priest, to align himself with it. A soldier seeks to understand which of the two to serve.

  • @guardsmenedwin6213
    @guardsmenedwin6213 Год назад +24

    Part two of Erda, or a short on her 1v4.
    I shall never stop requesting it

  • @thingsthatgobomb
    @thingsthatgobomb Год назад +3

    "I like you, don't come to Istvaan 3 tomorrow."

  • @JoeSmith-sl9bq
    @JoeSmith-sl9bq Год назад +51

    Erabus is my favorite Chaos Astartes, he is the only one who isn’t a traitor but always worked for Chaos, and I admire that he went through all that training just to fuck with the Empire, he doesn’t care about army shit. And when he saw emps he thought “I want to dismember you like a bug” while everyone else pooped their pants

    • @paimonisfood4986
      @paimonisfood4986 Год назад +12

      Well the Emperor could probably fart and delete Erebus from existence if they fought

    • @FeatherResonance
      @FeatherResonance Год назад +15

      @@paimonisfood4986 Erebus succeeded though what with the emperor being a Halloween decoration in the 41st millennium. A flaming sword isn't the only way to win a fight and the emperor would know that better than anybody since he schemes and lies about as much as tzeentch.

    • @kellerblair2952
      @kellerblair2952 Год назад

      @@FeatherResonance When has the Emperor ever actually lied ?

    • @saucemandela
      @saucemandela Год назад

      @@kellerblair2952 literally the imperial truth was a lie and it was practically the catalyst for all events during the horus heresy. If the emperor would have told the primarchs about chaos, they may have been able to combat it

    • @paimonisfood4986
      @paimonisfood4986 Год назад +2

      @@FeatherResonance With faith in the emperor slowly becoming an actual special ability for the Imperium I think it would not just his sword that wins battles. Also a lot of the lies and schemes made by the Emperor were in the end intended to work for humanity's favor unlike Tzeentch who just do it to further chaos's goals which is definitely not ideal for any human.

  • @iwzdeta53
    @iwzdeta53 Год назад +41

    Not gonna lie. The first heretic, great book love how they showed his humanity with the lady

  • @argeltalthecustodiankiller6552
    @argeltalthecustodiankiller6552 Год назад +30

    For his weapons he had the blades of iron, Lightning gauntlets, Guardian spear, and custodian sword.

  • @mitchmitting102
    @mitchmitting102 Год назад +13

    As much as I'd love to see Argal come back, I think a really good character arc for Kharn right now would be him deciding to take revenge on Erebus after all this time, gathering allies that also despise Erebus to kill the Word Bearer.
    Hell make it a massive plot twist as Kharn slowly regains more and more of his sanity until the climatic fight where upon killing Erebus, he becomes something like a mix of his old and khornite personalities, seeking to fight the best out there but doing so in a more honourable and strategic way then just kill main burn. Be pretty interesting and make Kharn a much more compelling character again. Hell it's not even that much of a stretch to think Khorne may put his avatar on this path, perhaps sick of Erebus shit and lack of honour as well as seeing it as a step towards making Kharn the ultimate warrior.

    • @dudemcfurgusson7179
      @dudemcfurgusson7179 Год назад +6

      Erebus dying would make so many lore fans cheer, and the only people who wouldn't enjoy it have opinions that are wrong.

    • @adrienwatson2179
      @adrienwatson2179 Год назад +1

      This would be amazing and make another Chaos Astartes amazing.
      We only have a few since we lost Talos lol

    • @mitchmitting102
      @mitchmitting102 Год назад +4

      @@adrienwatson2179 Kharn is one of those Chaos Aligned characters that still has a lot of potential for the story and universe but is being shafted to suit a niche. Say Lucius, dude doesn't much room to grow or change as he was always an arrogant man that believed no one could best him, or Erebus who has had his heyday as the one responsible for the Horus Heresy and many parts within it, but since then has been more or less relegated to background character since he simply can't do what he used to with the same effect.
      Kharn is unique since he had a very distinct personality for a World Eater, and what with how his personal damnation happened, while his fighting prowess has certainly heightened, he is far from what you could consider the perfect warrior, which is the exact kind of thing Khorne would love to see. After all, sure, he was an amazing fighter, but there is bunch of other pre-heresy aspects to him that really set him apart from the regular World Eater that, in my mind, is why Khorne decided to choose him of all astartes. And what better way to improve his champion's capabilities now his devotion is assured then to have him claim his vengeance for the murder of his best friend which inevitably would require Kharn to make use of his more intrinsic personality traits?

    • @adrienwatson2179
      @adrienwatson2179 Год назад +3

      @@mitchmitting102 Agreed on all accounts
      They wasted his potential for sure.
      Remember when he captured a Thousand Sons Marine on Prospero?
      That was an amazong scene as Kharn slowly tried to maintain his sanity

    • @mitchmitting102
      @mitchmitting102 Год назад +3

      @@adrienwatson2179 Personally, I don't entirely mind the direction they took with Kharn, but rather the fact they have done nothing with it. Sure, being a mindless berserker is interesting for a little, but it's more the fact he has gone no where with it other than to be one of the best killers in 40K. In my eyes however, it does paint an excellent landscape for his later potential for thousands of years of killing all being to ensure his otherworldly skills in combat as well as his devotion to Khorne.
      That's why I hope something along these lines happens to make Kharn a player in 40k again. Between Magnus and the Thousand Sons getting up to shit again, the Plague Wars with the Death Guard and Fabius Bile continuing to do his thing, I feel like Khorne and the forces of Undivided (*cough cough* Alpha Legion and Iron Warriors *cough cough*) need a real spot light, and for Khorne? What better way then the Betrayer getting his vengeance for the betrayal of Argal and becoming a leading Khornite leader like he should be?

  • @karuptedninja2000
    @karuptedninja2000 Год назад +22

    Argal is so awesome it almost makes me want to play horus heresy just to have him on the table top

  • @jonas639
    @jonas639 Год назад +13

    I love this character. I picked the Word Bearers as my first army partialy because of him. But you forgot to mention how he dualwielded two Custodian Weapons.

  • @HanmaCaleb
    @HanmaCaleb Год назад +12

    I hope they make a new book series where, maybe if Ghazghkull defeats Angron and a large amount of Khorne’s real space influence, Khârn can shake off some of his lucidity and go find Rum if he’s still around to try and get Argel back, and help him become the badass character he was before

    • @Ray-yv7kn
      @Ray-yv7kn Год назад +1

      They say that Angron can't be banished. This can only mean that GW plans to use him as a punching bag lol.

    • @HanmaCaleb
      @HanmaCaleb Год назад

      @@Ray-yv7kn well if Angron doesn’t die Khorne’s influence can still be weakened, also giving a justification for Angron’s promotion to plot device punching bag

    • @dukedevlan5457
      @dukedevlan5457 Год назад +1

      Raum and argel tal was I believed completely fused with his daemon Raum so if he is still around so would argel it would be a cathartic experience seeing kharn Champion of khorne and argel more daemon then man at this point

  • @ProffessorYellow
    @ProffessorYellow Год назад +14

    I feel they killed Argyl off cuz he has a lot of parallels with the White Scar's Khan. Such as dual wielding, Resistance mentally to manipulation, wisdom, pragmatic. They are extremely similar in different settings

  • @Channel-23s
    @Channel-23s Год назад +9

    As for the transformation and possession the 7 months in the Warp was actually 7 seconds which Lorgar told Argel tal in a confused look as he was listening to the confessions of what they had to do to survive

  • @ragnarokivae6136
    @ragnarokivae6136 Год назад +7

    Argel Tal is the reason I somehow like the word bearers. Thanks to him, I understand how the WB think and why they turned traitor. Sadly the other main characters of them are just boring villains. But argel Tal is so dope, he carry the whole legion

  • @ourcommonancestry6025
    @ourcommonancestry6025 Год назад +2

    Best scene in Warhammer lore, at least top 10: Angron making fun of Argel-Tal and the word Bearers, then slapping Argel-Tal down when he got all butthurt about it. Telling ya, I was crying for days, especially cuz the audio book was so damn perfectly voiced acted.

  • @jaredunderwood978
    @jaredunderwood978 Год назад +15

    I remember the Kharn and Argel bromance, it was a great read

  • @deion1564
    @deion1564 Год назад +11

    First Heretic, Know no Fear and Betrayer are some of my favorite books in the Horus Heresy series. Also, Argel threw his chainsword at the Custodes.

  • @TheWarmachine375
    @TheWarmachine375 Год назад +21

    Whenever Argel Tal goes for a walk, he asked the Loyalists how's their health plan.
    Apparently it was great.

    • @renandronico4235
      @renandronico4235 Год назад +1

      Great Hellsing abridged reference! Now I can't help but imagine Alucard in Warhammer. Would he excel or be easily destroyed?

    • @TheWarmachine375
      @TheWarmachine375 Год назад

      @@renandronico4235 In Fantasy, he can school the Vampires of Sylvania and even set things straight there or wipe them out.
      In 40k, he might have to work for the Radical Inquisitor who would be pragmatic to work with him and impress him enough that they retain their humanity when fighting monsters.

    • @redsledgeblu5234
      @redsledgeblu5234 2 месяца назад

      Womp womp

  • @yanntrokhymenko9775
    @yanntrokhymenko9775 Год назад

    Yessir! Keep the longer videos coming every so often, but nah seriously you’re a fuckin legend

  • @Ripotes
    @Ripotes Год назад +10

    There's a short story in the Mark of Calth book that follows another member of the Gal Vorbak who goes rogue after 7 years of fighting underground. It's really interesting and worth checking out if you like Argel Tal. The First Heretic and that story convinced me that a spinoff game of Warhammer 40k: Space Marine where you play as a rogue Gal Vorbak who can temporarily go demon mode in combat and travel around through the warp trying to unravel its mysteries while occasionally dropping onto random planets in real space and slaughtering loyalists would be sick as fuck

  • @JoshdaKnight
    @JoshdaKnight Год назад +1

    Dude the Custodes who broke is vow of silence and used his last actions and words as a “fuck you” to a specific traitor is such a Chad.

  • @joshuakokkinias3054
    @joshuakokkinias3054 Год назад +2

    Kharn, Argel Tal and Sevetar Jago are my favourite characters in 40k. Great vid hope you do a Sevetar video soon!

  • @stuart9096
    @stuart9096 Год назад +1

    breaking your vow of silence just to tell xaphen how much you hated him. glorious

  • @brickwall9781
    @brickwall9781 Год назад +2

    Damn. Erebus really is the one that started the Horus Heresy. It should be called the Erebus Heresy

  • @springbreak2021
    @springbreak2021 Год назад +3

    First 40k book I read, Argel tal is tragic but goated

  • @secondarytrollaccount
    @secondarytrollaccount Год назад +1

    Erebus: kills argal
    Kharne: and i took that personally.

  • @kevinsmith9013
    @kevinsmith9013 Год назад +1

    He remains forever honored and un-diddled!

  • @brockstephens7961
    @brockstephens7961 Год назад

    Majorkill gets a new sponsor and 9 out of 10 times I end up buying the product because it's actually useful! Thanks Majorkill

  • @rheynilcalderon4246
    @rheynilcalderon4246 Год назад +12

    Argel tal the warmaster we deserve

  • @Danterag5
    @Danterag5 Год назад +1

    The first part of this story was an AMAZING book called The First Heretic. Everyone should read that novel it's so much fun.

  • @mheekkim2901
    @mheekkim2901 Год назад +5

    Never knew Sylvester Stallone was a Chaos Marine

  • @anvilaberdeen1289
    @anvilaberdeen1289 Год назад

    You be pumpin' them vids left and right, awesome. Carry on.

  • @Shootsukiyama1527
    @Shootsukiyama1527 Год назад +2

    A near 20 minute long Majorkill video!? Sign me the hell up

  • @Ac-jf9gb
    @Ac-jf9gb Год назад +6

    Best feat of each primarch

    • @alastor8091
      @alastor8091 Год назад

      The feet of each primarch.

    • @JoeSmith-sl9bq
      @JoeSmith-sl9bq Год назад

      I think Magnus would have the best looking feet

    • @Ac-jf9gb
      @Ac-jf9gb Год назад

      @@JoeSmith-sl9bq same plus this morning I finished building him his feet are a great

  • @Jagonath
    @Jagonath Год назад +1

    The lore is amazing... and ironic. Word Bearers turned traitor, for worshipping the Emperor, yes. But they also foiled themselves in the attempt. Cyrene was Argel Tal's "confessor." But after Cyrene Valantion died and was resurrected by Argel Tal, she became a perpetual and a loyalist.
    If you read the book where Lorgar tries to kill Horus, Lorgar is led by a blind, masked woman. It's pretty clear this is none other than Cyrene, luring Lorgar into a fight he can't win, and taking the Word Bearers out of the very rebellion they started. Brilliant!

  • @minipaintingforyou
    @minipaintingforyou Год назад +2

    1:55 you didn’t swallow, how am I supposed to believe you? 🤣

  • @Son.D.Lollipop
    @Son.D.Lollipop Год назад +4

    I really do think that if both argul and Kharn could of gotten thr fuck away from their fathers early in the heresy both could of been redeemed and brought back to the loyalists

  • @LRodz279
    @LRodz279 Год назад +5

    The thought of Argel lowering the gellar field because he wanted a 8 tit daemon gf is hilarious 7:40

  • @AltoStratusX1
    @AltoStratusX1 Год назад

    LONG GASSSSSP
    INSANEO STYLE??
    What a man of culture you turned out to be Majorkill.

  • @zygo0
    @zygo0 Год назад +3

    The more I learn about the Horus Heresy, the more I learn that the Emperor and the Custodes were actually really bad at running a crusade and an empire.

  • @kodak5678
    @kodak5678 Год назад +1

    awesome vid majorkill

  • @DominicMaez
    @DominicMaez Год назад +6

    To me it felt like argel was able to sway the demon to his side.

    • @evann5
      @evann5 Год назад +4

      Didn't the daemon abandon Argel after Erebus left him to die? leaving Argel Tal to die a lonely death.

    • @DominicMaez
      @DominicMaez Год назад +1

      @@evann5 good point.

  • @Theking-sk1bz
    @Theking-sk1bz Год назад +3

    Greetings majorkill finally finished the blood lord and gonna post it doubt I'll win but it'll be awesome for you too see it anyway 👍

  • @jayvhoncalma3458
    @jayvhoncalma3458 Год назад +1

    0:43 also look at his armor drip like that makes it look like he's the Emperor's son (color scheme wise)

  • @nonnyjones8217
    @nonnyjones8217 Год назад +2

    Argel Tal looks like he should be the emperor of mankind!!

  • @v10l3t40
    @v10l3t40 Год назад +8

    I find it weird you made this video, I'm currently reading The First Heretic so I've grown to like Argel Tal

    • @NastyFool7
      @NastyFool7 Год назад +1

      Maybe he's reading the HH. MK just put out a video on the fall of the Thousand Sons. 'A Thousand Sons' is just two books before 'The First Heretic'

  • @zelossemac1970
    @zelossemac1970 Год назад

    Loving the fake smile as he tries to look like that green slush was in any way satisfying

  • @Kaden_99
    @Kaden_99 3 месяца назад

    "Being healthy is a vibe." Me being sick while watching Majorkill´s videos bcs of comfort :´(

  • @leephilips5781
    @leephilips5781 Год назад

    The First Heretic has to be my favourite book of the Horus Heresy Series.

  • @Whispergryn
    @Whispergryn Год назад

    MAJORBRO! Please do longer format videos along with the shorts if you can. I dig this shit

  • @stripeybag6977
    @stripeybag6977 Год назад +2

    Cadia for 10k years an Imperial Bastion of Defiance, before that... Galaxy's Weirdest Strip Club.
    Also Obligatory asking Majorkill for a Mini of the late Old Man of Armageddon. Or Cowboy Ironstriders for the Skitarri Ranch.

  • @AustralianBlueMage
    @AustralianBlueMage Год назад +2

    Argel Tal is probably one of the best examples of the positive traits faith can give.
    Doesn't change that he's wrong. But he's an exceptionally compelling character, demonstrating more humanity than even a lot of loyalist Astartes (even more hilarious considering he's literally half-daemon) and being an excellent foil to Erebus, who arguably embodies all of the negative aspects of faith.

  • @myself2noone
    @myself2noone Год назад +2

    A always found it amusing that you seem to hate chaos, and aren't what most people would find wholesome, and Weshammer is a teddy bear that seems to love them.

  • @beatsbydgreenie2338
    @beatsbydgreenie2338 Год назад +1

    Can you do a video on blood bowl? It can be a call back to fantasy while being a more goofy and fun video

  • @kommandantduncan1693
    @kommandantduncan1693 Месяц назад

    I really want to see more genuinely compelling Chaos Space Marines, and I think they could give it with a new generation of Chaos Space Marines who hold contempt for a lot of the First Born but also never had any true ties to the Imperium. Argel Tal, Honsou, Talos Valcoran, and Decimus are all great examples of what we need more of.

  • @Firefighter3935
    @Firefighter3935 Год назад

    I tried listening to a Majorkill playlist to fall asleep to at night but the “bow to me” at the end keeps waking me up.

  • @SlaveknightGale
    @SlaveknightGale Год назад +1

    The scene with the custodien being sacrificed was fucking brutal. His face was a mess with one eye kinda working and looking around as he got impaled.

  • @scenczyk1429
    @scenczyk1429 Год назад +1

    I REALLY enjoy Lucius plot armour. Nobody wins and does not gloat in whatever capacity.

  • @anlak1318
    @anlak1318 Год назад +2

    Why can't we have more of that ?
    More non-one dimensional chaos characters ?
    Like, GW could sell more characters like that, so it would profitable.

  • @RAD1111able
    @RAD1111able Год назад +2

    finally,now time for the Blood Pact

  • @vicstanfieldshire7754
    @vicstanfieldshire7754 Год назад

    “One of the greatest Traitor Space Marines” … epic!

  • @dornfist3913
    @dornfist3913 Год назад

    Great video @Majorkill! I am a loyalist through and through but I found Argel Tal's story very tragic indeed.

  • @crabinthetophat490
    @crabinthetophat490 Год назад +1

    Video idea : What would Majorkill be doing if Warhammer didn't exist

  • @sadlerbw9
    @sadlerbw9 Год назад +3

    I think Argel Tal is probably the most Aussie-accent-compatible name in all of 40k…unless there is a space marine named Chicken Parmy that I’m not aware of.

  • @matThaHatter
    @matThaHatter Год назад +1

    Love this story, and I love your video about it! Before this, I hated the Word Bearers and World Eaters; The First Heretic is some of the best storytelling in The Horus Heresy. Thanks!

  • @rivervalle9188
    @rivervalle9188 Год назад

    You should do 5 or 10 well deserved fates of characters

  • @unstablefroggaming5232
    @unstablefroggaming5232 Год назад

    This man makes videos as fast as I read the books! Keep up the grind!

  • @Kottekungen
    @Kottekungen Год назад

    My fav line from the book,
    - Tal closed his eyes, Raum opend them.
    The first heretic is my fav book from the horus heresy

  • @12345678907830
    @12345678907830 Год назад +1

    did anyone else take one look at that art of regular argel and think "Yeah thats got henry cavill written all over it"

  • @SomeGuy-gc8zs
    @SomeGuy-gc8zs Год назад +135

    In a way, it's fitting that a man who was half daemon was one of the most human Space Marines; after all, daemons are tiny fragments of the Chaos Gods, and Chaos Gods are, at this point, mostly fueled by humanity's psychic gestalt. In the end, a daemon is a little fragment of exactly the thinga that make us human.

    • @raipe125
      @raipe125 Год назад +4

      Like nuclear isotopes made banana

    • @Ty-wz2dq
      @Ty-wz2dq Год назад

      I like your profile picture

    • @MrFredstt
      @MrFredstt Год назад +8

      Someone call an Inquisitor to visit this person immediately. We can't have this kind of heresy spread

    • @fantasyfan10
      @fantasyfan10 Год назад

      You mean wanting total dominion wherever it is that we go? Lol

  • @lordInquisitor
    @lordInquisitor Год назад

    My introduction into 40k was the book " the first heretic " saw it in the book store and wanted to try something new. this character holds a special place for me

  • @caveychip7510
    @caveychip7510 Год назад +1

    Major mini ideas
    A trazyn the infinite style thingo or an Argel tal proxy.
    Because 2 of warhammers greatest characters should not be trapped in citadel finecast and forge world resin

  • @derpscythe
    @derpscythe 5 дней назад

    Argel being able to maintain a level head for years with an increasingly heretical primarch who you have a genetic loyalty to and a literal demon inside him for decades meanwhile fulgrim being the pinacle of human bioengineering and warp magic falls to a falic blade that just tells him hes not good enough is so funny

  • @Hereforthelols
    @Hereforthelols Год назад +1

    Imagine an angrier than usual KHARN coming to beat ass😂😂

  • @thehermitman822
    @thehermitman822 Год назад

    😂
    Beyond the Borg "Compliance is futile."

  • @cegorach-the-laughing-stock
    @cegorach-the-laughing-stock Месяц назад +1

    they should make a movie on Argel Tal, with Nick Cage as Tal