Same for sim racing. Feeling the growl of a 60's muscle car, the rumble strips and thump of every shift. Even idling in a F1 car is great. Couple with The Logitech z906 surround sound system adds more immersion. I've had Buttkickers in my home theatre for years and knew I'd be happy, especially with the Hapticonnect telemetry.
It is a huge upgrade. I use Simshaker for Aviators software with it and I can feel the bumps on the taxiway heading down to the runway. I use it for DCS also and the first time I used it I had it turned up too high. I landed on the Carrier with the F-18 and a picture fell off the wall, lol. You can use the onboard sound on your motherboard. You don't need a separate one.
The hapticonnect software I find works so well in flight simulator. The rpms in a cessna feel so good on the rig, along with the flaps and landing, also taxiing. I never used the sim haptic, only the hapticonnect.
I've been thinking about getting one of these for a while now. I think it's a good investment for me since I play FS2020, DCS, Star Citizen, and Elite Dangerous. I think they all support it. I just read u on the overheating, and owners agree that a USB fan will give game sessions of 2-3 hrs.
I've had a ButtKicker gamer plus (attached to Herman Miller Embody) and initially thought it had overheating problems. In reality, it's that you have it kicking too hard and constantly. I get it; the initial phase of owning one has you wanting to constantly feel it, but trust me when I say you want it toned down soon enough. Real pilots can suffer the actual feeling of a plane's constant ricketiness that settles in your bones, that's not my goal for my flight simulation experience. Turn down the volume/power of the vibration effects on whatever effects are happening constantly -- especially full time engine/RPM, and for sim G-effects if you're constantly pulling them and then you'll be fine. The maximum power output of the Buttkicker is very high but it has a far lower sustained output due to heat. If it's firing at high levels, before long it'll quickly overheat and turn off. I know personally that cuting it to a certain threshold you'll discover over time, and it gives plenty and it'll sustain for however long your gaming session is.
Atta Boy"! Lat time I was flying into KDWH under the TCA... spotted a Continental Mad Dog on final into KIAH.. that's 20 years ago. Miss flying dude. Enjoy !
I have the exact same setup as you and had the same issues with overheating. The nlr chairs dedicated mount for the buttkicker is the issue, it dampens too much of the vibration. I moved my buttkicker to the middle crossbar infront of the seat itself and since then ive never had it overheat, i even had to turn the buttkicker down.
There is one big problem using a butkicker, you won't want to fly without it. Your rig is dead, the motors must be off, it's just not on. I use mine mostly with sim racing and if there is a problem with it, amp settings, loose cable, whatever it is, I have no interest in using any sim without it. Great feedback in sim racing, and it doesn't hurt to feel a tiny little kick when the gear locks in fully retracted.
As a jaded 49 year old gamer, it's rare that something I buy meets my expectations. It's amazing what this thing does for immersion! I love it. It's incredibly immersive in VR. I can only imagine what it would be like on a motion rig. This is a MUST have for a flight sim rig!!
@jay-rus4437 it's never happened for me, but the more you use it, the more you learn that having it turned way down is the best. You want subtle vibrations when you perform certain actions, like adjusting the flaps. It's way more realistic like that and also easier on the unit.
You know that you didnt need to put a new sound card in right? The BK Gamer Pro amp uses USB to connect to your PC, and Hapticonnect communicates through the amp via USB..
The only thing that's concerning is it overheating. I mean, one could play whatever for hours. Shouldn't have to pause to let it cool down. Aside from that, this does seem pretty amazing. I like that they even have a setup for regular computer chairs. Going to look into this more. Thanks!
For PC u only need USB cable, no audio cables at all to make sure the sims feed the telemetry data and NOT audio witch is not accurate , volume must never be at max , i keep it at 25 max
Great video and I loved your initial reaction! I'm curious as to the logic of mounting the amp on / to the same seat that one mounts the Buttkicker. Won't the vibrations caused by the the Buttkicker shake the crap out of the guts of the amp and ultimately cause issues?? I know we are way past the days when we used tubes in amplifiers (I'm dating myself!), but still....
Good question. I wouldnt recommend it.. not sure u u saw but i ended up placing it on the floor next to me pc instead. But anywhere should be good as long as there is good ventilation
@@BluGames Thanks for the responses. I saw you had placed it on the floor, but I have seen a number of YT videos on the Buttkicker and other DIY solutions where the amp(s) were mounted on the seat and thought that would be / could be problematic in the long run. If and when I take the plunge, I think I will avoid attaching the amp to the seat. Thanks again.
Haptic feedback, via seat-of-the-pants 'feel', is a game-changer for me. If I forget to start it all I immediately quit and start over it's that good. AND it's cheap compared to something like a motion chair and such. Sim _feels_ dead without it and this feature is a close number 3 on the list of immersion gizmo's (VR, HOTAS, Haptic). It does need to be physics based and not sound based however.
I actually have my frame suspended on two of the buttkicker BK-LFE's with a 1000 whatt amp processing through a separate sound. Simshaker for aviators is amazing. I just it for DCS. Picture your setup on crack and its worth every penny.
I lost my VR headset so I quit flight simming til I can get a new one, but not sure what to get now for my 3 year old rig. Been using ATS and ETS2 lately.
Cool video. I have had my butt kicker for years. My dogs hate it. The vibration scares them and they go running. If it is over heating you need to turn the volume down. I ended up switching to a haptic pad. I like the controls and how that feels more but it makes the chair uncomfortable to sit on the pad so I will most likely be switching back to the butt kicker.
man you hyped me up sp much lmao 😆 I already bought simhaptic because of your vid although my buttkicker only arrives tomorrow cant wait to get home tomorrow :) I already have the hf8 haptic seat which is amazing with simshaker software and I hope the buttkicker adds some more clunk to it 😁 great video as an introduction
If your wheels touch the ground with a descent rate of less than 20 FPS you will not feel the touch down: almost a perfect touch down. Try a hard landing: above 700 FPS?
Hi, i been having my buttkicker pro for awhile now and i still can't get it to work. i seen on your channel that you are using the splitter core on the back of the amplifier. But you not using the second mode for it. I try that and still didn't have anying luck. Also how do you get your audio splitter to say "connect" under Buttkicker Input(Buttkicker Virtual Device). I have seen about every video of the buttkicker pro and soft ware, my problem is i can't get my buttkicker pro to shake and i can't get it to connect. If you have anying idea please help
Why was it overheating is my concern was it turned up to high? what setting did you have it at that it went out. Let me know debating to get the pro version for DCS.
I put some duct tape infront of my mouse area to keep it from flying! It happens to me all the time especially now I got a wireless mouse and that makes it even worse, so yes I will make a video on this hack idea!
Ohhhhhh So that is how you get a new case and don't get in trouble... NO I swear the panel broke while making content... Honey I have to buy that new hotness case from Microcenter
Hello everybody ! I'm searching for an answer on my new rig. I get confuse about if you need or not a dedicated soundcard to use a buttkicker gaming Plus with SimHaptics? I have an Audeze Maxwell paired with an usb dongle and my buttkicker on my Pc with an Usb. If someone can help me thanks ! 😊
@@BluGames Hello ! Thanks for your answer ☺️ May I ask why we need an external sound card ? Because it’s Seems it’s built in, no? When u plug the buttkicker via usb, it appears as a sound device, so it should not be necessary no? 🤨 Thanks ! ✌🏼😉
gets even better for racing. i have 2, one under the seat and one under my pedal plate. You need to mess with the settings and its just as close as motion. i feel abs and slip under my feet and engine vibrations and such under seat
I would suggest a better amp, also I'd suggest a 4 channel amp. With a 4 channel you can simulate left side/right side/front/back or put one on the pedals and one under the seat. Just look into a better amp. It also will make racing sims a lot better. The default amp is just not ..great.
@@BluGames I use an earlier version of the Behringer NX-6000 with four Buttkicker Mini-LFE's for around my racing chassis but you could definitely use a 2 channel amp with two Buttkicker mini-LFE's or even just one. My issue with the Buttkicker Gamers is the same thing you found in that it overheats too quickly rendering it useless for a while. There are a lot of other transducers that can be used as well. Aura and Dayton make good ones to check out.
Bought the butt kicker gamer when it first came out the amp has fried itself but found a far better one but this is the best thing if you're playing VR.
Hello, and thanks for the review! I really want to buy one but in your review it sounds very noisy. Is it due to the mic or is it really noisy? If it's almost noticable, i will buy on today 🤣
@@BluGames thanks for this quick answer! Only when it turned up (only at the start of the engine or all trip long)? The noise if for inside the engine or due to vibration? Sorry for my broken English, not my mother tongue...
Bro 😂😂😂 I can tell exactly when you called me. Oh yea I forgot to mention about the mouse falling problem 😂😂😂. Great review broski. That reaction was priceless.
@@BluGames how often does it overheat? I've been interested but this puts me off spending the money on a device that can't handle the flight sim. Thanks!
Same for sim racing. Feeling the growl of a 60's muscle car, the rumble strips and thump of every shift. Even idling in a F1 car is great. Couple with The Logitech z906 surround sound system adds more immersion. I've had Buttkickers in my home theatre for years and knew I'd be happy, especially with the Hapticonnect telemetry.
Sheesh i cant wait to try that
That reaction at 09:53 made be immediately hit that buy order for Buttkicker Gamer Pro - Thanks for the video.
Haha wow well i hope u enjoy as much as i do
It is a huge upgrade. I use Simshaker for Aviators software with it and I can feel the bumps on the taxiway heading down to the runway. I use it for DCS also and the first time I used it I had it turned up too high. I landed on the Carrier with the F-18 and a picture fell off the wall, lol. You can use the onboard sound on your motherboard. You don't need a separate one.
Yea i heard u dont need the soundcard but i thought i would try it
You do some of the best game and equipment reviews. Thanks for sharing. 👍🏼
I really appreciate that
The hapticonnect software I find works so well in flight simulator. The rpms in a cessna feel so good on the rig, along with the flaps and landing, also taxiing. I never used the sim haptic, only the hapticonnect.
Good to know that works too
I've been thinking about getting one of these for a while now. I think it's a good investment for me since I play FS2020, DCS, Star Citizen, and Elite Dangerous. I think they all support it. I just read u on the overheating, and owners agree that a USB fan will give game sessions of 2-3 hrs.
Pretty intense on dcs
I've had a ButtKicker gamer plus (attached to Herman Miller Embody) and initially thought it had overheating problems. In reality, it's that you have it kicking too hard and constantly. I get it; the initial phase of owning one has you wanting to constantly feel it, but trust me when I say you want it toned down soon enough. Real pilots can suffer the actual feeling of a plane's constant ricketiness that settles in your bones, that's not my goal for my flight simulation experience. Turn down the volume/power of the vibration effects on whatever effects are happening constantly -- especially full time engine/RPM, and for sim G-effects if you're constantly pulling them and then you'll be fine. The maximum power output of the Buttkicker is very high but it has a far lower sustained output due to heat. If it's firing at high levels, before long it'll quickly overheat and turn off. I know personally that cuting it to a certain threshold you'll discover over time, and it gives plenty and it'll sustain for however long your gaming session is.
This would be cool for a helicopter sim! Would love to feel the main rotor vibrations, turbine sounds and whop whop of the blades!
Ahhhh yea!!!!
Atta Boy"! Lat time I was flying into KDWH under the TCA... spotted a Continental Mad Dog on final into KIAH.. that's 20 years ago. Miss flying dude. Enjoy !
Wow!
I have the exact same setup as you and had the same issues with overheating. The nlr chairs dedicated mount for the buttkicker is the issue, it dampens too much of the vibration. I moved my buttkicker to the middle crossbar infront of the seat itself and since then ive never had it overheat, i even had to turn the buttkicker down.
Hmm wow really.. i may have to try that
There is one big problem using a butkicker, you won't want to fly without it. Your rig is dead, the motors must be off, it's just not on. I use mine mostly with sim racing and if there is a problem with it, amp settings, loose cable, whatever it is, I have no interest in using any sim without it. Great feedback in sim racing, and it doesn't hurt to feel a tiny little kick when the gear locks in fully retracted.
Very true
As a jaded 49 year old gamer, it's rare that something I buy meets my expectations. It's amazing what this thing does for immersion! I love it. It's incredibly immersive in VR. I can only imagine what it would be like on a motion rig. This is a MUST have for a flight sim rig!!
Wow totally agree!
@@BluGameswith all of this you really need track IR
Buttkicker is terrible with a rig, you loose vibration. Gaming chair is the way to go
How often and/or easily does it overheat
@jay-rus4437 it's never happened for me, but the more you use it, the more you learn that having it turned way down is the best. You want subtle vibrations when you perform certain actions, like adjusting the flaps. It's way more realistic like that and also easier on the unit.
You know that you didnt need to put a new sound card in right? The BK Gamer Pro amp uses USB to connect to your PC, and Hapticonnect communicates through the amp via USB..
Yes this is true
Ohhh maaan, here I go spending more money of flight simming 😢. Thanks Blu 😂
I warned u not to watch it lol
8:47 HAHAA. I bet that would be bad ass with VR man.
The only thing that's concerning is it overheating. I mean, one could play whatever for hours. Shouldn't have to pause to let it cool down. Aside from that, this does seem pretty amazing. I like that they even have a setup for regular computer chairs. Going to look into this more. Thanks!
I needed your reaction to the kicker today, awesome ! Thanks.
Hey… have an amazing day! I appreciate you
Since buying this my wife has used the chair for 100hrs yet my game time has remained the same 😂
Oh boy
FCU 320 from which company? didnt find in setup list br
Me (to no one in particular after seeing the thumbnail): "Hey, do I need a Buttkicker?"
9-year-old daughter: "To kick my butt?"
I died. 😆
Hahahahahaha
For PC u only need USB cable, no audio cables at all to make sure the sims feed the telemetry data and NOT audio witch is not accurate , volume must never be at max , i keep it at 25 max
Yea i turned it waayyy down. And it still feels nice
Would love to buy one, but the noise is definately too much (living in an apartment with neighbors below)
Yea that would be a problem
You should try the buttkicker on both the fénix a320 and the pmdg 737- THEY ARE PERFECT
I will!
Interesting device. Also… sink rate on the margarine landing captain 😎
Its fiiine
@@BluGames *NTSB has entered the chat* 👀😂
Gonna need that MFOQA data, it would appear your approach was unstable sir.
Great video and I loved your initial reaction! I'm curious as to the logic of mounting the amp on / to the same seat that one mounts the Buttkicker. Won't the vibrations caused by the the Buttkicker shake the crap out of the guts of the amp and ultimately cause issues?? I know we are way past the days when we used tubes in amplifiers (I'm dating myself!), but still....
ABSOLUTLEY !!!
Good question. I wouldnt recommend it.. not sure u u saw but i ended up placing it on the floor next to me pc instead. But anywhere should be good as long as there is good ventilation
@@BluGames Thanks for the responses. I saw you had placed it on the floor, but I have seen a number of YT videos on the Buttkicker and other DIY solutions where the amp(s) were mounted on the seat and thought that would be / could be problematic in the long run. If and when I take the plunge, I think I will avoid attaching the amp to the seat. Thanks again.
This looks really cool. Is it any different than a sub woofer on a surround system?
Its very similiar
Catalina... I need to fly into there again ☺
Haptic feedback, via seat-of-the-pants 'feel', is a game-changer for me. If I forget to start it all I immediately quit and start over it's that good. AND it's cheap compared to something like a motion chair and such.
Sim _feels_ dead without it and this feature is a close number 3 on the list of immersion gizmo's (VR, HOTAS, Haptic). It does need to be physics based and not sound based however.
I actually have my frame suspended on two of the buttkicker BK-LFE's with a 1000 whatt amp processing through a separate sound. Simshaker for aviators is amazing. I just it for DCS. Picture your setup on crack and its worth every penny.
Im trying to figure out simshaker
I know it’s only been a day or two but did you figure out/fix the overheating issue?
I just turned it down and havent had an issue since
Man that is sick man!
It really is man
is the pro or plus best for the next level Boeing seat rig?
They both work.
Welp… time to add another thing to my Xmas list 😅
Haaha
I lost my VR headset so I quit flight simming til I can get a new one, but not sure what to get now for my 3 year old rig. Been using ATS and ETS2 lately.
Wow
Cool video. I have had my butt kicker for years. My dogs hate it. The vibration scares them and they go running. If it is over heating you need to turn the volume down. I ended up switching to a haptic pad. I like the controls and how that feels more but it makes the chair uncomfortable to sit on the pad so I will most likely be switching back to the butt kicker.
The pad sounds like an ok alternative but not the same
man you hyped me up sp much lmao 😆 I already bought simhaptic because of your vid although my buttkicker only arrives tomorrow cant wait to get home tomorrow :) I already have the hf8 haptic seat which is amazing with simshaker software and I hope the buttkicker adds some more clunk to it 😁 great video as an introduction
just tried it out and WOW man my reaction was the same as yours haha it was really worth every cent
If your wheels touch the ground with a descent rate of less than 20 FPS you will not feel the touch down: almost a perfect touch down. Try a hard landing: above 700 FPS?
Yep i feel it now
what a sweet video, thanks! Question, when you turn your head your monitors follow your eyesight, HOW? I love that too
How long can you play it before it overheats?
If you turn it down. U can play for hours and hours
Been thinking about getting one for my simrig for drifting. Very informative video my guy!@@BluGames
You should try the HF8 pad for the chair it mind blowing
Hi, i been having my buttkicker pro for awhile now and i still can't get it to work. i seen on your channel that you are using the splitter core on the back of the amplifier. But you not using the second mode for it. I try that and still didn't have anying luck. Also how do you get your audio splitter to say "connect" under Buttkicker Input(Buttkicker Virtual Device). I have seen about every video of the buttkicker pro and soft ware, my problem is i can't get my buttkicker pro to shake and i can't get it to connect. If you have anying idea please help
Why was it overheating is my concern was it turned up to high? what setting did you have it at that it went out. Let me know debating to get the pro version for DCS.
How do you have the Mini FCU already I checked and could not get it
I put some duct tape infront of my mouse area to keep it from flying! It happens to me all the time especially now I got a wireless mouse and that makes it even worse, so yes I will make a video on this hack idea!
Great idea. Yea my mouse is wireless also
Ohhhhhh So that is how you get a new case and don't get in trouble... NO I swear the panel broke while making content... Honey I have to buy that new hotness case from Microcenter
Hahahahaha yessssss
Hello everybody !
I'm searching for an answer on my new rig.
I get confuse about if you need or not a dedicated soundcard to use a buttkicker gaming Plus with SimHaptics?
I have an Audeze Maxwell paired with an usb dongle and my buttkicker on my Pc with an Usb.
If someone can help me thanks ! 😊
I recommend atleast a cheap external sound card. Will save you ALOT of headache
@@BluGames Hello !
Thanks for your answer ☺️
May I ask why we need an external sound card ? Because it’s Seems it’s built in, no? When u plug the buttkicker via usb, it appears as a sound device, so it should not be necessary no? 🤨
Thanks ! ✌🏼😉
That it became so hot is kind of concerning.
thanks so much you are the best..
Buy a little usb fan and it’ll never turn off again
Mhhhm good to know thanks man
Unfortunately not available in Germany and the surrounding area -.-
Wow really… that horrible
How can someone enjoy flying a bus
Amazing
It is actually
The only downside to this is that once you fly with it you won't to be able to fly without it.
Yes i experience this already. So true
Only issue with this review is you clearly are paid by buttkicker. You had your mind made up before you opened the box.
I wish! I bought this with my own money.
I had very high hopes from the beginning and thankfully i wasnt disappointed.
Fair enough man, must give this a go then
shill
why dont he play in VR its so much better!!!!
I will lol
gets even better for racing. i have 2, one under the seat and one under my pedal plate. You need to mess with the settings and its just as close as motion. i feel abs and slip under my feet and engine vibrations and such under seat
One is enough for now.. but dont be surprised if i pop up with 3 more lol
@@BluGames haha ok
Great video. Simhaptic is one of the best things you can do for Buttkicker
Thanks man really appreciate it! And love your reviews
I would suggest a better amp, also I'd suggest a 4 channel amp. With a 4 channel you can simulate left side/right side/front/back or put one on the pedals and one under the seat. Just look into a better amp. It also will make racing sims a lot better. The default amp is just not ..great.
Ha interesting ok good to know
@@BluGames I use an earlier version of the Behringer NX-6000 with four Buttkicker Mini-LFE's for around my racing chassis but you could definitely use a 2 channel amp with two Buttkicker mini-LFE's or even just one. My issue with the Buttkicker Gamers is the same thing you found in that it overheats too quickly rendering it useless for a while. There are a lot of other transducers that can be used as well. Aura and Dayton make good ones to check out.
New toys. I looked at this a while ago and borrowed one but didn't kept it because the family complained about the noise.
Yes its not quiet for sure.. but its so nice if you can use it without disturbing the peace
Bought the butt kicker gamer when it first came out the amp has fried itself but found a far better one but this is the best thing if you're playing VR.
Sheesh not good
Hello, and thanks for the review! I really want to buy one but in your review it sounds very noisy. Is it due to the mic or is it really noisy?
If it's almost noticable, i will buy on today 🤣
It can be very noise when turned up yes.
@@BluGames thanks for this quick answer! Only when it turned up (only at the start of the engine or all trip long)? The noise if for inside the engine or due to vibration? Sorry for my broken English, not my mother tongue...
Would you say that it’s too loud for an apartment?
Yes unless you are on bottom floor
Bro 😂😂😂 I can tell exactly when you called me. Oh yea I forgot to mention about the mouse falling problem 😂😂😂. Great review broski. That reaction was priceless.
Yea need to find a way to keep my mouse from falling. Thanks man
Your gonna have to to some DCS World with this.
I WILL!!
can you do a follow up video on that with what you have learned in the meanwhile and what you can do about the constant overheating? Cheers
Yes great idea
@@BluGames how often does it overheat? I've been interested but this puts me off spending the money on a device that can't handle the flight sim. Thanks!
My GF would love this. Maybe I can get her to play 😅
“And she”ll love it too”
@@BluGames She doesnt even know what she is missing.
Have you had any further issues of overheating on long flights?
To be honest, you can do this stuff and better with less noise for cheaper. Buttkicker is overpriced.
What do u suggest
What's up with the overheating?
Great video! Sold me
Does it work with warthunder and aeroflyfs4 too?
Yes it does
Cool
Hi, could you please share your settings on haptic and the unit itself? Volume and cutoff. Thank you very much.
Well that is unacceptable... They charge you 350bucks and you can only use it a half hour before it stops working? C'mon
Nice landing. Smoke some weed with one of these and you get scared of heights
Hahaha
You have it turned up way too high, It will over heat.
Yep i learned the hard way