I could download this device for free at Thingaverse, etc, if anyone wants it? The grabcad versions have supports that I made that are part of the file and can't be removed. I could upload new supportless versions if anyone is interested? Please let me know. Also in the event grabcad turns hostile to my files. (Has happened before with other sites I won't mention).
Its great to see someone attempt this in printed plastic. size is important - to achieve flow. flow is not to scale . You need the metal nozzles. gold and silver and the whole assembly has to be in the egg shaped chamber
Thanks! Well, I'm definitely going to make it bigger and get the speed way up. I will also try to create the correct nozzles. The last step will be to make it out of metal, or metal plate it somehow. The nozzle is no small feat to create. Its a fairly complex device, that can only be created if the whole project is much bigger in size.
Not sure if you'll find this relevant to your device, but something Peter Lindemann mentioned once in a livestream back in 2013 is that DePalma found that when an object is rotating the space (or rather the medium) itself becomes polarized between the rim and the axle of the rotating object. If I understood him right, he stated that one way to exploit this effect is an inverse Pelton wheel with water delivered through the rim and ejected onto the paddles on the inside of the rim through centrifugal force to create a force amplifier, the faster the rotation the more force the water would have on exit and the higher the torque becomes, so that principle may have use in your device. Peter's whole thing is about COP > 1 tech so I'd consider him and his work to be fairly reliable based on the principles involved. The video is titled Peter Lindemann - Open System Thermodynamics - August 13, 2013, 40 minutes in.
So I watched the video you mentioned, but still struggle to understand how that's supposed to work. Applying water at the rim as it is where the force is strongest, would leave little space for the water to accelerate meaningfully. At most it becomes a pulverizer. Waste compressor, which is a tesla turbine in reverse mode, operates on similar principle, but has longer distance form center to rim to accelerate water. For Pelton turbine to be efficient, the water ejected must be in direction of the rotation. As this video shows, even without the catchers for water, it's harder for turbine to eject water this way. Add big spoons like in Pelton and it would likely introduce more drag from air resistance, or at least cancel or thrust from water. Theoretically, for this video it might make sense to add pelton catchers at 30 - 45 degrees, so that deflection of water stream might impart some rotational moment. But it remains to be seen if there will be any improvement in such case at all. You could create an 'outer' ring of pelton catchers that aren't directly connected to the sprinkler, but it would seem the losses incurred would be too great. Peter, of course, could've demonstrated the design or operation of such a simple device, but alas.
@@ANToxic777 There's a video from SmarterEveryDay "Which Way Will the Water Go? (ft. Steve Mould)- Smarter Every Day 226" which I believe shows the principle of what Peter had in mind, it's a bit of a mind screw on first seeing it but quickly makes sense when factoring in all the movement vectors, you can see the faster it spins the stronger the force of the water comes out, I believe Peter may have been thinking along that line when suggesting the inverted Pelton wheel concept.
@@JenkoRun in that video it appear that a u-turn makes the water go in the same direction as rotation. So if pelton spoons are put there for capture it could produce thrust. It is so counter-intuitive. And from the CFD papers I read on sprinkler thrust it shouldn't be optimal at all. But would really love to see someone make it and measure the thrust.
@@ANToxic777 One would want to incorporate lots of tricks into the design to exploit as much as possible, including the right curvature, angles, ratios, recycling as much of the water movement as possible, and a lack of sharp bends, the underlining principle here is showing that you want the prime motive force to start on the perimeter and move inward towards the axle, that is a recurring pattern everywhere it nature.
Interesting concept Jenko. Thank you! I watched that Peter Lindemann video you mentioned. The jet nozzle in Schauberger's patent is really quite a complex and interesting device. It is necessary to build exactly as shown so that the larger wheel spins "Clock wise". Without the special nozzle and fluted deflector ring, the device works better spinning counter clock wise, as I've shown, but this is not how the device was intended to function.
Great work, i'm glad to see actually somebody takes the effort to understand and develop upon true knowledge. It's interesting to see that most critics here haven't understood anything about what Viktor Schauberger talks about and even demonstrated. Study the 'Stuttgart-experiments' first, if you want to know what is meant with "free energy" of "excess yield".
Thank you, I appreciate it. Truly lucid independent thinkers of high intelligence and able to reason and come to original conclusions are pretty rare unfortunately. I liken most people to a kind of organic robot. Preprogrammed and trapped in patterned behavior and habitual repeating unconscious patterns of mundanery and stagnation. Lol...
great effort mate. I know a lot goes into making these projects. Keep at it.. I'm noticing lots of synchronicities lately with my search for truth and knowledge, maybe i'm just open to it more but it seems like something has changed in the world (for the better, in a spiritual sense) well, at least from my perspective it does. I feel like i'm on a trail and the breadcrumbs are getting bigger and bigger.... It almost feels like the truth wants to be discovered.
Tinkering in ALL shapes & forms is always fine IMO, even without ANY scientific knowledge/education whatsoever, but there is NO need to even suggest that there is such a thing as free energy FFS.
Nice! Fun going from the fringes of science to "big booty girls." You've probably read/seen everything about Schamberger that I have (Rex Research folios, Living Water, documentaries here on YT) So, there's nothing I could suggest except maybe; is there a type of casting wax that can be used in 3D printers? If you get the proof of concept down in plastic, you could have a casting works cast it in copper for you.
Ya gotta love those big booty girls... LOL 😁 But ya, woman are a distraction for the most part. Someone else here mentioned 3D printer plastic that has copper powder mixed in it. So after you print the object you bake it at high temperature to burn away the plastic, leaving only the copper left. It has a rough surface however. Since the object is hollow, I don't know how you could use wax to create a casting of it. Actually come to think of it, now that I am able to create reverse molds of any object (as seen in my big booty video "Naked Velma.. again") I could make molds of the whole thing, in parts, and then fill with liquid wax, wait to harden, and then remove the molds. The wax casting would be in pieces but it could be copper electroplated from there once painted with electrically conducive paints. Would take a lot of work though. Anyways, I might reach out to a "Casting Works" company to see if they could make it out of copper for me. Thanks!
it's a rumor that, if you couple any machine into an universal system it would continously operate. that type of machine isn't perpetual motion, but the forces which makes it operate it would be.
@prerupa Ok I guess... we already have something like that. Its a clock that runs on barometric pressure changes. That being said evidence such a thing like this could ever do that is less then zero. There is tons of evidence against it such as the fact simply moving that water creates heat which will turn to electromagnetic energy which this has no way to even begin coupling back too. That's energy lose there such that even floating in space this device would grind to a halt due to energy loss. If ya wanna tap into the forces of nature by all means. There is something like 10kv for every meter off the ground or something like that which can be tapped. the atmospheric pressure I mentioned for that clock. Solar... geothermal... the list goes on but if you want a closed system to increase in speed you better tighten every leak of energy and provide a tap for it to get in and not get out which is almost impossible.
The idea behind this device is supposedly the swirl shape allows fluid to flow in a vortex with zero friction or resistance, causing fluid to be siphoned infinitely
Given the angle the water exits the spouts it makes sense its more efficient in spinning in that direction (so yes, counter clockwise). Granted it's the motor at the moment that's rotating it but I'm a little surprised it works at all in the other direction when it's spinning _against_ any thrust from the water. I guess the minimal amount makes it still possible, perhaps once it becomes more efficient with more water exiting it will only spin in one direction.
Ya I think I had it spinning in the wrong direction in my previous video of the device I made about a year ago. My bad. I have to go with the flow here.... lol... not against it.
You may have missed the point of charge constant speed around a square in pulses that is not a closed circuit ( casimir effect ). Have you used a vector (VMA) before, Smiths chart ? Fractals Bro !
Supposedly, if you generate high enough vacuum the water will flash to steam, and with enough centrifugal force it should expand through nozzles like a steam jet, which would provide the power needed to run the device. It seems the exit angle of your nozzle implies CCW rotation as optimal, because otherwise expanding water or steam will act as breaking. If you look into cavitation assisted desalination device, they achieve flash steam a bit differently, but core principle is still phase transition of water. Amazing that Viktor managed to understand and implement it century before fluid dynamics became a science. Alternatively, if the device relies on pure acceleration of water due to induced boundary turbulence it will act like inverse pelton turbine so it won't need cavitation at all.
Wow that's fascinating! I remember in a class I took once how water boiled at a much lower temperature than normal when in a vacuum. So a phase change sounds very plausible at high enough speeds. Do they have 3D printers that can use copper? I wonder... I will try to get the speed up on my device and see how it performs. I only tested out the new resin part today just before I posted the video here.
@@spiritelemental There is a spool that has copper nanoparticle mixed in, you print it regular way, but then need to bake it to burn the plastic away. The surface ends up being a bit rough so might introduce unexpected turbulence. Have you looked into JLC3DP printing service? They usually give a quote based on material/CAD automatically.
@@Bradwick1 Implosion of cavitating bubbles is a proven phenomenon that could explain overunity in his devices. Viktor himself stresses the importance of water being saturated either with CO2 or air and keeping it at 4 c which is the point of maximum saturation of water. He stresses the implosion of hydrogen as the prime mover in his thunderstorm generator, but explicitly omits 'catalyst' that enables it. However, he describes a peculiar ritual of yodelling at the cauldron of water, while stirring it to increase harvest. Clay is added to the cauldron as well. Coincidently, addition of clay into water significantly increases cavitation and heat output in a reactor of another scientist that used mechanical cavitation for production of steam.
To copper plate the inside of each whorl pipe I'd have to cut the model into many smaller pieces and copper plate each piece separately, and then somehow put the whole thing back together again. Glue it I guess... Epoxy glue would work well. It would all take a lot of work, but could be done.
@@spiritelemental Vapor deposition could potentially get the insides coated non-destructively, maybe ion as well. The thickness of the plating wouldn't be consistent, but that's probably not a big issue when the tolerances are already limited by a resin print. Not sure why using copper would matter in this instance, though, you're not forming an electrical circuit through the fluid as far as I can see, so the only electrical factor here would be the tiny static charge that briefly builds in the pumped water due to friction. If that's important to this design, using an insulating material is probably better, copper would just equalize the charge between the moving droplets and the main body of fluid.
Additionally, one of the comments mentioned the centrifugal acceleration of water potentially propelling the pump. That won't be the case, the tangential velocity of the water at the tip of the spouts will be exactly the same as the spouts themselves. Net 0 impulse. You can visualize it like a space elevator, the speed of the payload at the detachment point is the same as that of the carrier at the same position. Letting go of the load neither speeds up nor slows down the elevator, so the only useful mechanical work happens on the load. The structure only bears its weight along the radial while it's being raised. This is the first time I've seen this device, so if it does anything unusual, it has nothing to do with the simple hydraulic dynamics of the water.
@@Cris-bj7ee Everything is energy. We know that energy likes to move in a wave form, not a straight line. A vortex is a 3 dimensional wave form. All physical matter is made of vortexes of the ether substance. Something is made from nothing in other words. This is the secret to all free energy devices. They are simply applying the vortex form in one way or another to get a self sustaining effect from the ether. The ether substance can be induced into a perpetually renewing flow pattern, that produces endless "free" energy, so to speak. All part of the wonder and beauty of the natural world/universe.
You're SO CLOSE with your utilization of water and different properties of physics. I'm not sure if the speed of the siphon would do it, but I can think of something else that would... Involving water... And another property of physics xD
Your horns should be rotated 180 degrees on the horizontal axis and swept about 19 degrees on the vertical away from the direction of rotation. This should significantly improve efficiency. The spiral should coincide to the golden mean in it's........ spiraliness :)
I don't know if you fully understand how the Water Tornado Generator works. Maybe go back and study Viktor schauberger drawing. Let me know what you discover and I can send you the full stl files for a full build.
By understanding the inherent polarities that make up the substance of 'water' and stimulating these with an falling inward, rolling over oneself inwinding motion that is generated in each one of his Implosion-devices.
@ would be amazing to see the progress , I think the double helix it generates relies on it being incredibly smooth , any bubbles from even a scratch may impact it afaik but with the large size of the working model in the eh museum im guessing this problem isnt so impactful , i considered approaching a skilled glass blower as they can create the same type of funnel shape pretty easily although maybe half the size would be more practical , ideal i think is multiple resin molds created from 3d prints with vacuum treatment and heat to smooth the surface or some sort of hydrophobic coating ceramic etc originally i wanted to create a powerful ormus or H203 living water maybe even surrounding the funnel with a rodin coil of sorts but yeah i never was good at putting things into practice just dreaming big … nice to see your work thanks
one question I have is how you design the tubes and the ridges you used on the vortex egg, I have some basic knowledge in blender so looking for tips on how to design my own to print on my new bambu x1c
There are lots of videos out there on how to use Blender. I use a rather sophisticated and tedious method to create the Egg impeller and the abundance wheel setup. It takes a lot of time to create these shapes, hence why I haven't redesigned the whorl tube yet, because it takes many hours to do. Once I have the right form, then I make use of the replicate feature, so I only have to do things once. I have been playing with Blender for no less than 18 years so I have learnt a lot, and I would still only say I'm at an intermediate level of skill with the program. I've always loved Blender though because its free and open source. Lots of free add-ons. I like the guy who first created Blender too. His early company called "Not a number" or words to that effect, always stuck in my head. LOL
@spiritelemental ah okay, I thought maybe there might be a node setup that could generate these spirals, but I dont know the math for it so I havent been able to do so
Not sure what is "free" about this thing-a-ma-bob spirally doohickey, but somewhat reminded me of a "centrifugal mist/fog generator" Reference patent # 3,188,007 for images. 😂
You had made giant Tesla Coils that the government was able to triangulate on? lol Can you elaborate on how high voltage and mercury can create antigravity? Thanks!
@@spiritelemental I've heard of a few clams of antigravity being found with Mercury, some involved HV. Not saying that putting Mercury in this will do the trick but there is evidence to think it might help. But then again Schauberger didn't use Mercury.
@@spiritelemental Indeed, and look at the makers of the Fluxliner documentary, one guy was killed and then Marc McCandlish was killed also. Stephan Marinov explained how to do it and was suicideded.
Its like the time where I thought chemistry was just mixing a bunch of stuff together that I thought would work somehow, until I actually started to study chemistry and I found out I am stupid. oh and theres no free energy by the way.
Any concept similar to free energy is unlikely to work at all, and if anything like it would exist in an exploitable manner it would definitely not look like this. "Aether" is currently not part of any consensus in physics, rather it's an archaic idea disproven with the introduction of relativity as those are not compatible.
It's not disproven. If you want me to give you the arguments I'm happy to do so. But the evidence supports it. But you are right that it's considered disproven.
@@jonathanberry1111 the burden of evidence is on your side, as far as i'm concerned the laws of thermodynamics do not allow for the total energy of an isolated system to change.
I could download this device for free at Thingaverse, etc, if anyone wants it? The grabcad versions have supports that I made that are part of the file and can't be removed. I could upload new supportless versions if anyone is interested? Please let me know. Also in the event grabcad turns hostile to my files. (Has happened before with other sites I won't mention).
thx a lot :)
Yes, thanks, why not.
Its great to see someone attempt this in printed plastic. size is important - to achieve flow. flow is not to scale . You need the metal nozzles. gold and silver and the whole assembly has to be in the egg shaped chamber
Thanks! Well, I'm definitely going to make it bigger and get the speed way up. I will also try to create the correct nozzles. The last step will be to make it out of metal, or metal plate it somehow. The nozzle is no small feat to create. Its a fairly complex device, that can only be created if the whole project is much bigger in size.
Not sure if you'll find this relevant to your device, but something Peter Lindemann mentioned once in a livestream back in 2013 is that DePalma found that when an object is rotating the space (or rather the medium) itself becomes polarized between the rim and the axle of the rotating object.
If I understood him right, he stated that one way to exploit this effect is an inverse Pelton wheel with water delivered through the rim and ejected onto the paddles on the inside of the rim through centrifugal force to create a force amplifier, the faster the rotation the more force the water would have on exit and the higher the torque becomes, so that principle may have use in your device.
Peter's whole thing is about COP > 1 tech so I'd consider him and his work to be fairly reliable based on the principles involved. The video is titled Peter Lindemann - Open System Thermodynamics - August 13, 2013, 40 minutes in.
So I watched the video you mentioned, but still struggle to understand how that's supposed to work. Applying water at the rim as it is where the force is strongest, would leave little space for the water to accelerate meaningfully. At most it becomes a pulverizer. Waste compressor, which is a tesla turbine in reverse mode, operates on similar principle, but has longer distance form center to rim to accelerate water.
For Pelton turbine to be efficient, the water ejected must be in direction of the rotation. As this video shows, even without the catchers for water, it's harder for turbine to eject water this way. Add big spoons like in Pelton and it would likely introduce more drag from air resistance, or at least cancel or thrust from water.
Theoretically, for this video it might make sense to add pelton catchers at 30 - 45 degrees, so that deflection of water stream might impart some rotational moment. But it remains to be seen if there will be any improvement in such case at all. You could create an 'outer' ring of pelton catchers that aren't directly connected to the sprinkler, but it would seem the losses incurred would be too great.
Peter, of course, could've demonstrated the design or operation of such a simple device, but alas.
@@ANToxic777 There's a video from SmarterEveryDay "Which Way Will the Water Go? (ft. Steve Mould)- Smarter Every Day 226" which I believe shows the principle of what Peter had in mind, it's a bit of a mind screw on first seeing it but quickly makes sense when factoring in all the movement vectors, you can see the faster it spins the stronger the force of the water comes out, I believe Peter may have been thinking along that line when suggesting the inverted Pelton wheel concept.
@@JenkoRun in that video it appear that a u-turn makes the water go in the same direction as rotation. So if pelton spoons are put there for capture it could produce thrust. It is so counter-intuitive. And from the CFD papers I read on sprinkler thrust it shouldn't be optimal at all. But would really love to see someone make it and measure the thrust.
@@ANToxic777 One would want to incorporate lots of tricks into the design to exploit as much as possible, including the right curvature, angles, ratios, recycling as much of the water movement as possible, and a lack of sharp bends, the underlining principle here is showing that you want the prime motive force to start on the perimeter and move inward towards the axle, that is a recurring pattern everywhere it nature.
Interesting concept Jenko. Thank you! I watched that Peter Lindemann video you mentioned. The jet nozzle in Schauberger's patent is really quite a complex and interesting device. It is necessary to build exactly as shown so that the larger wheel spins "Clock wise". Without the special nozzle and fluted deflector ring, the device works better spinning counter clock wise, as I've shown, but this is not how the device was intended to function.
Great work, i'm glad to see actually somebody takes the effort to understand and develop upon true knowledge. It's interesting to see that most critics here haven't understood anything about what Viktor Schauberger talks about and even demonstrated. Study the 'Stuttgart-experiments' first, if you want to know what is meant with "free energy" of "excess yield".
Thank you, I appreciate it. Truly lucid independent thinkers of high intelligence and able to reason and come to original conclusions are pretty rare unfortunately. I liken most people to a kind of organic robot. Preprogrammed and trapped in patterned behavior and habitual repeating unconscious patterns of mundanery and stagnation. Lol...
great effort mate. I know a lot goes into making these projects. Keep at it.. I'm noticing lots of synchronicities lately with my search for truth and knowledge, maybe i'm just open to it more but it seems like something has changed in the world (for the better, in a spiritual sense) well, at least from my perspective it does. I feel like i'm on a trail and the breadcrumbs are getting bigger and bigger.... It almost feels like the truth wants to be discovered.
The world frequency is increasing now due to the removal of the negative polarity ET's that were here running the show. But anyways... I digress. Lol
Tinkering in ALL shapes & forms is always fine IMO, even without ANY scientific knowledge/education whatsoever, but there is NO need to even suggest that there is such a thing as free energy FFS.
Nice! Fun going from the fringes of science to "big booty girls." You've probably read/seen everything about Schamberger that I have (Rex Research folios, Living Water, documentaries here on YT) So, there's nothing I could suggest except maybe; is there a type of casting wax that can be used in 3D printers? If you get the proof of concept down in plastic, you could have a casting works cast it in copper for you.
Ya gotta love those big booty girls... LOL 😁 But ya, woman are a distraction for the most part. Someone else here mentioned 3D printer plastic that has copper powder mixed in it. So after you print the object you bake it at high temperature to burn away the plastic, leaving only the copper left. It has a rough surface however. Since the object is hollow, I don't know how you could use wax to create a casting of it. Actually come to think of it, now that I am able to create reverse molds of any object (as seen in my big booty video "Naked Velma.. again") I could make molds of the whole thing, in parts, and then fill with liquid wax, wait to harden, and then remove the molds. The wax casting would be in pieces but it could be copper electroplated from there once painted with electrically conducive paints. Would take a lot of work though. Anyways, I might reach out to a "Casting Works" company to see if they could make it out of copper for me. Thanks!
Idk how people come to such insane conclusions like "It should spin forever or accelerate" .... WHY? Why would it do that? None of that makes sense.
it's a rumor that, if you couple any machine into an universal system it would continously operate. that type of machine isn't perpetual motion, but the forces which makes it operate it would be.
@prerupa Ok I guess... we already have something like that. Its a clock that runs on barometric pressure changes. That being said evidence such a thing like this could ever do that is less then zero. There is tons of evidence against it such as the fact simply moving that water creates heat which will turn to electromagnetic energy which this has no way to even begin coupling back too. That's energy lose there such that even floating in space this device would grind to a halt due to energy loss. If ya wanna tap into the forces of nature by all means. There is something like 10kv for every meter off the ground or something like that which can be tapped. the atmospheric pressure I mentioned for that clock. Solar... geothermal... the list goes on but if you want a closed system to increase in speed you better tighten every leak of energy and provide a tap for it to get in and not get out which is almost impossible.
The idea behind this device is supposedly the swirl shape allows fluid to flow in a vortex with zero friction or resistance, causing fluid to be siphoned infinitely
@@E-Frajo Yeah but.... that's not true. Surely it would be easy to disprove that with a single spiral.
Given the angle the water exits the spouts it makes sense its more efficient in spinning in that direction (so yes, counter clockwise). Granted it's the motor at the moment that's rotating it but I'm a little surprised it works at all in the other direction when it's spinning _against_ any thrust from the water. I guess the minimal amount makes it still possible, perhaps once it becomes more efficient with more water exiting it will only spin in one direction.
Ya I think I had it spinning in the wrong direction in my previous video of the device I made about a year ago. My bad. I have to go with the flow here.... lol... not against it.
You may have missed the point of charge constant speed around a square in pulses that is not a closed circuit ( casimir effect ). Have you used a vector (VMA) before, Smiths chart ? Fractals Bro !
Can you speak English Sir? Lol.... Not all of us have an IQ of 2000.
bro is onto nothing
never let bro cook
Oh, he's close with using water and trying to utilize *certain* properties of physics... But a centrifugal pump isn't it
Supposedly, if you generate high enough vacuum the water will flash to steam, and with enough centrifugal force it should expand through nozzles like a steam jet, which would provide the power needed to run the device. It seems the exit angle of your nozzle implies CCW rotation as optimal, because otherwise expanding water or steam will act as breaking.
If you look into cavitation assisted desalination device, they achieve flash steam a bit differently, but core principle is still phase transition of water. Amazing that Viktor managed to understand and implement it century before fluid dynamics became a science.
Alternatively, if the device relies on pure acceleration of water due to induced boundary turbulence it will act like inverse pelton turbine so it won't need cavitation at all.
Wow that's fascinating! I remember in a class I took once how water boiled at a much lower temperature than normal when in a vacuum. So a phase change sounds very plausible at high enough speeds. Do they have 3D printers that can use copper? I wonder... I will try to get the speed up on my device and see how it performs. I only tested out the new resin part today just before I posted the video here.
This Schauberger invention was not originally designed to create or work with steam.
@@spiritelemental There is a spool that has copper nanoparticle mixed in, you print it regular way, but then need to bake it to burn the plastic away. The surface ends up being a bit rough so might introduce unexpected turbulence. Have you looked into JLC3DP printing service? They usually give a quote based on material/CAD automatically.
@@Bradwick1 Implosion of cavitating bubbles is a proven phenomenon that could explain overunity in his devices. Viktor himself stresses the importance of water being saturated either with CO2 or air and keeping it at 4 c which is the point of maximum saturation of water. He stresses the implosion of hydrogen as the prime mover in his thunderstorm generator, but explicitly omits 'catalyst' that enables it.
However, he describes a peculiar ritual of yodelling at the cauldron of water, while stirring it to increase harvest. Clay is added to the cauldron as well. Coincidently, addition of clay into water significantly increases cavitation and heat output in a reactor of another scientist that used mechanical cavitation for production of steam.
but this is just a radial fan/pump.
Wonder if you could coat it with graphite paint and then copper plate it?
To copper plate the inside of each whorl pipe I'd have to cut the model into many smaller pieces and copper plate each piece separately, and then somehow put the whole thing back together again. Glue it I guess... Epoxy glue would work well. It would all take a lot of work, but could be done.
@@spiritelemental Vapor deposition could potentially get the insides coated non-destructively, maybe ion as well. The thickness of the plating wouldn't be consistent, but that's probably not a big issue when the tolerances are already limited by a resin print.
Not sure why using copper would matter in this instance, though, you're not forming an electrical circuit through the fluid as far as I can see, so the only electrical factor here would be the tiny static charge that briefly builds in the pumped water due to friction. If that's important to this design, using an insulating material is probably better, copper would just equalize the charge between the moving droplets and the main body of fluid.
@@Cris-bj7ee You could be right. I forget now if copper was really necessary. I will have to look into this. Thanks for the input.
Additionally, one of the comments mentioned the centrifugal acceleration of water potentially propelling the pump. That won't be the case, the tangential velocity of the water at the tip of the spouts will be exactly the same as the spouts themselves. Net 0 impulse.
You can visualize it like a space elevator, the speed of the payload at the detachment point is the same as that of the carrier at the same position. Letting go of the load neither speeds up nor slows down the elevator, so the only useful mechanical work happens on the load. The structure only bears its weight along the radial while it's being raised. This is the first time I've seen this device, so if it does anything unusual, it has nothing to do with the simple hydraulic dynamics of the water.
@@Cris-bj7ee Everything is energy. We know that energy likes to move in a wave form, not a straight line. A vortex is a 3 dimensional wave form. All physical matter is made of vortexes of the ether substance. Something is made from nothing in other words. This is the secret to all free energy devices. They are simply applying the vortex form in one way or another to get a self sustaining effect from the ether. The ether substance can be induced into a perpetually renewing flow pattern, that produces endless "free" energy, so to speak. All part of the wonder and beauty of the natural world/universe.
Cool experiment! Thanks for sharing.
Thanks!
You're SO CLOSE with your utilization of water and different properties of physics. I'm not sure if the speed of the siphon would do it, but I can think of something else that would... Involving water... And another property of physics xD
I appreciate your input. 🙏 Thanks.
Your horns should be rotated 180 degrees on the horizontal axis and swept about 19 degrees on the vertical away from the direction of rotation. This should significantly improve efficiency. The spiral should coincide to the golden mean in it's........ spiraliness :)
I don't know if you fully understand how the Water Tornado Generator works.
Maybe go back and study Viktor schauberger drawing.
Let me know what you discover and I can send you the full stl files for a full build.
You have the special nozzle built? and the deflector ring?
@@spiritelementalI check and see
how did Schauberger managed to create a 100% water-fueled ufo?
By understanding the inherent polarities that make up the substance of 'water' and stimulating these with an falling inward, rolling over oneself inwinding motion that is generated in each one of his Implosion-devices.
@@niels735 Well said...
would you please try and duplicate the vortex pump he made, with resin and transparent if possible ?
I do happen to have fully transparent resin, that I have yet to use. Maybe if I have the time and energy I will look into the vortex pump.
@ would be amazing to see the progress , I think the double helix it generates relies on it being incredibly smooth , any bubbles from even a scratch may impact it afaik but with the large size of the working model in the eh museum im guessing this problem isnt so impactful , i considered approaching a skilled glass blower as they can create the same type of funnel shape pretty easily although maybe half the size would be more practical , ideal i think is multiple resin molds created from 3d prints with vacuum treatment and heat to smooth the surface or some sort of hydrophobic coating ceramic etc
originally i wanted to create a powerful ormus or H203 living water maybe even surrounding the funnel with a rodin coil of sorts but yeah i never was good at putting things into practice just dreaming big … nice to see your work thanks
one question I have is how you design the tubes and the ridges you used on the vortex egg, I have some basic knowledge in blender so looking for tips on how to design my own to print on my new bambu x1c
There are lots of videos out there on how to use Blender. I use a rather sophisticated and tedious method to create the Egg impeller and the abundance wheel setup. It takes a lot of time to create these shapes, hence why I haven't redesigned the whorl tube yet, because it takes many hours to do. Once I have the right form, then I make use of the replicate feature, so I only have to do things once. I have been playing with Blender for no less than 18 years so I have learnt a lot, and I would still only say I'm at an intermediate level of skill with the program. I've always loved Blender though because its free and open source. Lots of free add-ons. I like the guy who first created Blender too. His early company called "Not a number" or words to that effect, always stuck in my head. LOL
@spiritelemental ah okay, I thought maybe there might be a node setup that could generate these spirals, but I dont know the math for it so I havent been able to do so
Not sure what is "free" about this thing-a-ma-bob spirally doohickey, but somewhat reminded me of a "centrifugal mist/fog generator" Reference patent # 3,188,007 for images. 😂
Hey bud you probably don't remember me but we talked a long time ago. So if you use high voltage and mercury you will achieve antigravity
You had made giant Tesla Coils that the government was able to triangulate on? lol Can you elaborate on how high voltage and mercury can create antigravity? Thanks!
please leave the mercury out guys, that stuf can kill you
@@spiritelemental I've heard of a few clams of antigravity being found with Mercury, some involved HV. Not saying that putting Mercury in this will do the trick but there is evidence to think it might help. But then again Schauberger didn't use Mercury.
@@jonathanberry1111 Those that have built mercury gyroscopes and documented antigravity have all been muted.
@@spiritelemental Indeed, and look at the makers of the Fluxliner documentary, one guy was killed and then Marc McCandlish was killed also. Stephan Marinov explained how to do it and was suicideded.
where can I find the original designs by victor himself
They are everywhere. Do a seach on Callum Coats books.
Good, interesting, good Luck!
Thank you!
Look into airbowl technic.
why does it have to be made out of copper
It probably doesn't. I can't remember now the details of this. I will have to look over my books on Schauberger to see if I can figure this out.
1:30 what the hell was that
I wonder what meds u on, i'd like to try those too.
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really?
Its like the time where I thought chemistry was just mixing a bunch of stuff together that I thought would work somehow, until I actually started to study chemistry and I found out I am stupid. oh and theres no free energy by the way.
wath a crap XD another free energy on battery XD at least he didn try to hide the wire and battery XD please read thermodynamic law before XD
Any concept similar to free energy is unlikely to work at all, and if anything like it would exist in an exploitable manner it would definitely not look like this. "Aether" is currently not part of any consensus in physics, rather it's an archaic idea disproven with the introduction of relativity as those are not compatible.
It's not disproven. If you want me to give you the arguments I'm happy to do so. But the evidence supports it. But you are right that it's considered disproven.
@@jonathanberry1111 the burden of evidence is on your side, as far as i'm concerned the laws of thermodynamics do not allow for the total energy of an isolated system to change.