I'm so happy to see another clip with great advice from Glenn Gers. I never miss his series, Writing for Screens. He shows us how to find our own way through the creative process of writing. He speaks in a warm, reassuring voice about art and gives straight talk about the business.
Film Courage has a lot of fine interviews, but Glenn Gers is the finest. Eloquent and sharp of course, but also treading a fine line between artistic and commercial considerations. And also has actual A-list produced script to back it up. I'm heading to wiritingforscreens now..
This particular video is my personal favorite out of the interview. Glenn’s commentary on how the artist experience towards the final product differs from the perspective of the audience really stuck with me. Very profound.
Glenn Gers is amazing! Dare I say, his interview and clips are one of the all time best! And he’s right about it: I’ve been watching recently many “making of” documentaries about Alien, and Terminator, and other classics, and so many cool choices were sometimes just a necessity, or a happy accident on a day, or somebody added something later, or improvised - there’s just so much going on when making a movie you can’t really be sure what the exact end results is going to be.
Great video as always. Art is subjective and the more you practice getting your ideas across the higher the likelihood of it actually getting across to the audience.
@@roathripper But that implied objectivity is so baked-in that it’s not even worth pointing out What was mentioned here is the freedom of pursuing whichever narrative ideas will make for interesting content, not whichever mechanical innovations will make for a new format of screenplay
The problem with being an artist is that most artists have to be sensitive to be good at what they do. But in the film industry, since it’s collaborative by nature, the artist has to endure a lot of hardships: criticism (sometimes some constructive too :)), judgements, people trying to profit from their talent (loads!), idea thieves, narcissists, power plays, and so forth… To survive and thrive the artist has to develop a very thick skin which is totally antithetical with what it means to be an artist. For how do you remain sensitive with a thicker skin? It takes a very different individual to make do with the process. Producers should understand that many good if not great artists never make it because they’re not cut out for this cut-throat environment. Artists and art should be nurtured… not digested in acid.
@airlockengage You’re so right! Burton, for one, managed to let his creative voice go through. A true artist in every sense of the word. I’m sure he had to struggle quite a bit to impose his vision, although there’s a documentary that shows « The nightmare before Xmas » has benefited greatly from the many creative collaborations. Guess it can cut both ways when you’re lucky enough to team with a really good team, eh 😉 What is he doing these days, do you know? The last I heard of him was « Alice in Wonderland », me think.
Another piece of clarification. As a photographer, I learned years ago that in making a portrait, or a landscape, it is "not me" that makes that image. My job is to ensure the technicalities are correct; but, when I press the shutter release, and the mirror rises blacking out what I can see in the viewfinder, in that INSTANT, magic happens and the IMAGE is created. Master Gers has given me something I can grasp about writing as a process. Once again, thank you.
I don't think it's really that different, apart from the fact the making a film is sort of very difficult 😁 If you could make the movie that you've got in your head, then it would be easy. But since it's such much more then that, it's incredible easy to be distracted from your original story. But still, if one could make a movie with like-minded people in a way that it's not too corruptive on creativity, you could be your own best audience.
Artists are like chefs, they cook the food from scratch but only get satisfaction once the diners (audience) appreciate the dish. Artists are the ones who pour out their hearts and minds into their work, and the audience is the people who absorb this work into their own hearts and minds.
'there is only one certainty for an artist - ' This immediately put me in dread. I thought it was going to be, at the least, 'you will never earn a living, never lift your head, never be wanted by anyone anywhere, and nobody will ever know or care.'
problem is some people just dont have it. 😢 now matter how many times you swing you miss😥 . yet one thing going for todays aspiring artists is how little takes to entertain todays dumbed down brainwashed masses. Idiocracy was one of the most accurate movies ever made. hit he nail on the head when it comes to depicting todays millennial hordes .
Get used to your work ending up being sliced and diced in Hollywood, it’s something that you have to learn to love being a part of. It’s not a singular thing unless you self-publish/self-produce. There are many hands on a script throughout its life.
G.B. Shaw was a pretty good critic before he was a playwright. I have a collection of his reviews. I imagine that at some point he told himself that he could write a better play than what he was seeing on stage. So he did.
This is just my opinion....it appears to me that the best art, like the best science, is done by individuals or small groups of people who work together very well....from my experience...when you get too many people involved in the creation process inevitably the originality, creativity, the force of the ideas suffers. What do you think?
not completely true, but i see what you're going for. I think of the tremendous success of writers rooms in US sitcom writing over the last 50 years, and in regard to movies, I know that the script for Casablanca was the result of countless hands.
I love this, but what if you get really good at it? Of course there is a truth, but after repetition one will get better, right? And some people just have crazy talent for certain stuff, right? Again, I love this, but somehow it seems to me that there are definitely people out there who can effortlessly create emotional rollercoasters for the others. Did I mention I love these kind of interviews? 😏😉
Its a creator (auteur) name first and once you get recognize for the right reasons then youll be an artist. For me its quite difficult to conceive artistry in Hollywood for many reasons besides their famous unstoppable greed. Great chat though.
This is nonsense. The thrill of storytelling is getting to be the first person to experience your story. The magic of being a storyteller is being able to experience all possible conflicts and outcomes of your story before settling on the one the audience will experience. Being a storyteller is the greatest form of entertainment.
As god of his creation, story is experienced as a mechanical construct, a sterile parade of dramaturgical components and techniques. The experience is inferior to that of the Audience whose journey from ignorance to awareness is carried by the emotional cadences of suspense, surprise and revelation. Therefore, as the Storyteller, the 'thrill' of story is not within His gift.
I'm so happy to see another clip with great advice from Glenn Gers. I never miss his series, Writing for Screens. He shows us how to find our own way through the creative process of writing. He speaks in a warm, reassuring voice about art and gives straight talk about the business.
I watch Glen Gers interviews over and over again. It's help me when I get stuck. Thanks for posting this.
I'm so glad I found Glenn Gers. He takes away all the mysteries of screenwriting, and gives a lot away-- for free. G-d bless him.
Glenn is great, hope you have checked out his channel - ruclips.net/channel/UCE-jmjAfrk-Ls95wGLluPNA
@@filmcourage Oh yeah! I live there now.
This is exactly where I am: transitioning from audience to creator.
This is why constructive criticism is so important to me.
Film Courage has a lot of fine interviews, but Glenn Gers is the finest. Eloquent and sharp of course, but also treading a fine line between artistic and commercial considerations. And also has actual A-list produced script to back it up. I'm heading to wiritingforscreens now..
This particular video is my personal favorite out of the interview. Glenn’s commentary on how the artist experience towards the final product differs from the perspective of the audience really stuck with me. Very profound.
Glenn Gers is amazing! Dare I say, his interview and clips are one of the all time best!
And he’s right about it: I’ve been watching recently many “making of” documentaries about Alien, and Terminator, and other classics, and so many cool choices were sometimes just a necessity, or a happy accident on a day, or somebody added something later, or improvised - there’s just so much going on when making a movie you can’t really be sure what the exact end results is going to be.
Thank you Film Courage and Mr. Gers! He remains my favorite of your interviewees.
I watched “Fracture” last night after seeing this vid. Two thumbs up! Thoroughly enjoyed from start to finish.
This resonates with me.
Great video as always. Art is subjective and the more you practice getting your ideas across the higher the likelihood of it actually getting across to the audience.
the screenplay is not a completely subjective experience. there's an objective standard of what constitutes quality.
@@roathripper
But that implied objectivity is so baked-in that it’s not even worth pointing out
What was mentioned here is the freedom of pursuing whichever narrative ideas will make for interesting content, not whichever mechanical innovations will make for a new format of screenplay
I needed to hear this. Thank you.
WOW ! that's powerful ! I love it
The problem with being an artist is that most artists have to be sensitive to be good at what they do. But in the film industry, since it’s collaborative by nature, the artist has to endure a lot of hardships: criticism (sometimes some constructive too :)), judgements, people trying to profit from their talent (loads!), idea thieves, narcissists, power plays, and so forth… To survive and thrive the artist has to develop a very thick skin which is totally antithetical with what it means to be an artist. For how do you remain sensitive with a thicker skin? It takes a very different individual to make do with the process.
Producers should understand that many good if not great artists never make it because they’re not cut out for this cut-throat environment. Artists and art should be nurtured… not digested in acid.
@airlockengage You’re so right! Burton, for one, managed to let his creative voice go through. A true artist in every sense of the word. I’m sure he had to struggle quite a bit to impose his vision, although there’s a documentary that shows « The nightmare before Xmas » has benefited greatly from the many creative collaborations. Guess it can cut both ways when you’re lucky enough to team with a really good team, eh 😉
What is he doing these days, do you know? The last I heard of him was « Alice in Wonderland », me think.
Tip to video editor: A one second title screen before sound gives the viewer one second to reach for the volume control. Thank you in advance.
Another piece of clarification. As a photographer, I learned years ago that in making a portrait, or a landscape, it is "not me" that makes that image. My job is to ensure the technicalities are correct; but, when I press the shutter release, and the mirror rises blacking out what I can see in the viewfinder, in that INSTANT, magic happens and the IMAGE is created. Master Gers has given me something I can grasp about writing as a process. Once again, thank you.
How is being an artist different than being the audience?
I don't think it's really that different, apart from the fact the making a film is sort of very difficult 😁
If you could make the movie that you've got in your head, then it would be easy.
But since it's such much more then that, it's incredible easy to be distracted from your original story.
But still, if one could make a movie with like-minded people in a way that it's not too corruptive on creativity, you could be your own best audience.
an artist stakes a claim on originality, while the audience yawns at having seen it all before.
Artists are like chefs, they cook the food from scratch but only get satisfaction once the diners (audience) appreciate the dish. Artists are the ones who pour out their hearts and minds into their work, and the audience is the people who absorb this work into their own hearts and minds.
The audience watches these videos while the artist makes them.
its a lot harder for an artist to impress him/herself than it is to impress an audience
This video is incredible
This is gold. Thank you!!!!!
Wow, this is amazing info/insight. Thanks for sharing this!
This clip speak as a creator in general not just films and that's great
'there is only one certainty for an artist - ' This immediately put me in dread. I thought it was going to be, at the least, 'you will never earn a living, never lift your head, never be wanted by anyone anywhere, and nobody will ever know or care.'
You okay, bro?
Spot on lesson. Thanks for posting. Love 💯
"We all begin as an audience"
This was a solid video! 👍🏼
problem is some people just dont have it. 😢 now matter how many times you swing you miss😥 . yet one thing going for todays aspiring artists is how little takes to entertain todays dumbed down brainwashed masses. Idiocracy was one of the most accurate movies ever made. hit he nail on the head when it comes to depicting todays millennial hordes .
Get used to your work ending up being sliced and diced in Hollywood, it’s something that you have to learn to love being a part of. It’s not a singular thing unless you self-publish/self-produce. There are many hands on a script throughout its life.
Spoken like a true machine
literally?
Huh?
I am jaded with movies doing many running scenes.
G.B. Shaw was a pretty good critic before he was a playwright. I have a collection of his reviews. I imagine that at some point he told himself that he could write a better play than what he was seeing on stage. So he did.
This is just my opinion....it appears to me that the best art, like the best science, is done by individuals or small groups of people who work together very well....from my experience...when you get too many people involved in the creation process inevitably the originality, creativity, the force of the ideas suffers.
What do you think?
not completely true, but i see what you're going for. I think of the tremendous success of writers rooms in US sitcom writing over the last 50 years, and in regard to movies, I know that the script for Casablanca was the result of countless hands.
I never heard someone say this.
I love this, but what if you get really good at it? Of course there is a truth, but after repetition one will get better, right? And some people just have crazy talent for certain stuff, right?
Again, I love this, but somehow it seems to me that there are definitely people out there who can effortlessly create emotional rollercoasters for the others.
Did I mention I love these kind of interviews? 😏😉
Artist never stops learning. Even the greats when making films will have to rewrite drafts, or do multiple takes on set.
OmG
Its a creator (auteur) name first and once you get recognize for the right reasons then youll be an artist. For me its quite difficult to conceive artistry in Hollywood for many reasons besides their famous unstoppable greed. Great chat though.
I watched this cause I thought it was Ernie Johnson from tnt
:v
This is nonsense. The thrill of storytelling is getting to be the first person to experience your story. The magic of being a storyteller is being able to experience all possible conflicts and outcomes of your story before settling on the one the audience will experience. Being a storyteller is the greatest form of entertainment.
As god of his creation, story is experienced as a mechanical construct, a sterile parade of dramaturgical components and techniques. The experience is inferior to that of the Audience whose journey from ignorance to awareness is carried by the emotional cadences of suspense, surprise and revelation. Therefore, as the Storyteller, the 'thrill' of story is not within His gift.