Cnoc VectoX can handle boiling water. It is one reason that I am considering buying another one, as I just have a Vecto regular model. I have thought that it would be nice to have in winter, but i guess that might be too much water to heat
Have been using the Sawyer Squeeze filter for over 8 years. Love it. Two additional points. First, everyone needs to know that the filter should not be exposed to below freezing weather because the residual water in the filter will freeze and it will no longer work. Second, Sawyer contributes 90% of their profits to clean water projects around the world. And they recently made a huge donation of filters and other products to people impacted by Hurricane Helene.
Great point on the Sawyer. Many of the competing filters have questionable testing documentation as well. Sawyers charitable contributions are also incredible.
Sawyer's testing protocol and detail is top notch! And yes, their commitment to clean water is amazing. Having seen it first hand, it's also a huge contributor to why I support them. :)
I only use Sawyer so don't get me wrong but, in what way is other companies testing and documentation questionable? Is that just something that you heard that you are repeating or are you a testing and/or statistics documentation of water filtering expert of some type?
@@Rando-user-zm1fxI requested testing documentation from all competing filters companies. Some are shockingly suspect. Unregulated laboratories and using incorrect testing protocols. Other companies who won’t share their test results are also untrustworthy. Feel free to request your own documents by emailing the companies. I wouldn’t trust any filter with my health except Sawyer or Katadyn.
@@Rando-user-zm1fxsomehow my reply got deleted. I researched all the major filter makers testing documentation. Sawyer and Katadyn were the only ones I feel confident do thorough testing under the correct protocols. A few other makers who sent me lab results were incredibly suspect-uncertified lab, wrong testing method used for water filters and very exaggerated filtering claims. I suggest you request the documents and research this yourself.
All good pieces of gear. Especially Devin's bags that he makes for his Etsy store. I have a lot of dirt time with and I am proud to say, these items are well made and will stand the test if time.
I'm filtering boiling and treating water that has a dead bird in it But credit due the sawyer is a serious bit of kit! I currently have a befree but my next filter will be a sawyer squeeze for sure
@@georgedawson235 I have taken water from ridiculous water sources and only used the Sawyer. Never been sick. Trust your gear. or you could do all kinds of nonsense to feel better. Is that called neurosis?
I, too, use the Vecto 2L bladder - BEST in class. Agreed - Sawyer Squeeze, drop dead, down & dirty, reliable. I really like your home-made food bag. FireSteel ferro rod & striker which I can use with gloved hands & fluffed up hemp rope in small ziplok baggie for tinder are items I always have - drop dead, down & dirty, reliable ignition source, anytime, anywhere. Warm Regards from Reno, Nevada
@@johnnyolson258 I, & others, have come to realize the FireSteel brand of ferro rod does, in fact, product "more & hotter sparks" than other brands because their Ferrro Rod includes a higher percentage of Rare Earths, which is WHAT create the sparks. Plus the handle on the striker & Ferro rod are large enough to be used with Gloved hands. The FireSteel brand of Ferro Rod actually fits inside the striker's handle which means your Ferro Rod & Striker are always together. Yes, it takes time to fluff the hemp string - I cut 10) strings then separate/fluff the fibers & insert the fluff mass inside a 3" x 3" ziplok baggie to keep it dry. The bright ORANGE colored handles of the striker & Ferro Rod are easy to find if you set one or the other on the ground.
Agree that the Fire Maple Petrel pot is excellent. Pairs great with my DIY alcohol burners. Boils about 20% faster and s uses less fuel. Or it will boil more water with a given amount of alcohol.
Stellar list! I keep meaning to get one of those water bottles. I’ll still be a gram weenie on backpacking trips (fits filters, weighs less, etc), but those squakers look killer for day hiking. Organization bags are so great. I love the Litesmith Zipza for ditty, LiteAF bags for first aid and a sweet food bag made by this cook RUclips creator I know. 😉
I have one of your 4.5L zipper bags and love it. Did you say you made a 3L version? I don't see it in your etsy shop. Anyway, the design is great and I'd love to see it in a larger size for clothing and a few smaller sizes for electronics, ditties, or first aid. I've never been a fan of the pouch style bags. I bet you'd have quite a market if you wanted to branch out to different sizes.
@@elisebrown5157 Awesome! Yes I have a smaller, 3L size. I just added a few in a blue color. I am working on a bigger 6L option probably. Just need to dial in dimensions. And yes, I have patterns for a smaller size too, just have been busy in getting more options available. But stay tuned!
@@BackcountryExposure I just ordered the 3L and another 4.5L in a different color. And I will definitely stay posted for those additional sizes when they become available. Thanks!
Crazy to sew your own food bag. Reclosable big potato chip barrier bags are lighter and free. Carried a thermometer, never used it even once. Zip bags Polyethylene for TP bag. Use a reclosable springwater bottle, it weighs less, it's durable, will hold hot water.
@@nicholsonscience6229 cool, that’s great to have found options that function well for you. It’s good to have options. We all have our own preferences and needs. Sounds like you found some great solutions for you. 👍🏻
I’d also give two thumbs up for the Tailwind Endurance fuel. Worked great in Denali last summer. Tasted great as well. Definitely be taking it on an Arctic hike next year. Only drawback is that it is heavy so I have to count some of the weight towards the total calories I’m packing.
These influencers love their lists, i was thinking of my own list. Hiking influencers you would like to go hiking with. Your top 5. Mine is Simon, a bloke in the woods Scottys gone walkabouts Bryce newbold Quadzilla And yes Devon. Interested to hear other peoples out there.
I've had a pinhole on my normal Vecto but it kind of fixed itself lol. If the X were around at the time I'd probably pick that up. I wish there was a way to tell if the Squeeze was compromised. I should probably pick up a new one just in case.
A diy Caldera cone with a Trangia 27 pot (cooking for more than one) when my kids come with me. Saved the day when the Jetboil wouldn’t vaporize on a very cold Spring morning at 6200 feet.
Love the Govee thermometer, for the reasons you said. I like the CNOC bags, but the threads and caps are poor and leaky. The plastic in the caps particularly is softer than it should be. The FireMaple pot is terrific, though I found I wanted a stove variant with a piezo igniter as seating a full pot on the 3 prongs can be fussy.
Ikea sells bags with zip openings for food and are inexpensive And I use ziplock bags for organizing small things They wear out but slowly and much much cheaper
Oddly enough the dead bird water didn’t taste all that bad. The next pot hole on that trip that we got water from the next day was much much worse. Almost like licking the inside of a rubber tire. Ha ha! I have a Grayl and find I never look to carry it cause it just isn’t as convenient, at least for me.
I would totally be into those water bottles for winter if I already didn't have half a dozen nalgenes. I like the cnoc for a backup for longer water carries, but I just use the smart water bottle squeeze filter method. I love seeing other people's kit. Pretty sold stuff. Hope to hike in Utah this yr. I think it looks ideal.
sawyer squeeze pulling from a water source with decaying animals? i wouldnt do that alone. I would use something like potable aqua as well to ensure viruses are killed as well.
Good question. I don't know a specific product or what you'd be looking for. But maybe as an inline filter you could do that, like with the One Bottle system.
@@BackcountryExposure You can attach your Sawyer straight to a water bottle. Is there an attachment that goes from the plastic bottle to you your Sawyer?
@@jaymecarter7425 I don’t know of a plastic cap that has the Nalgene style threading with 28mm male threading on the top to thread the sawyer on to. Maybe someone has 3D printed something like that? I mention the one bottle product cause you can use that and cut the tubing and use the filter as an inline filter. 🤷🏻♂️
I would just like to say in the moment you were not so confident in the Sawyer's ability(or any filter's ability) to filter out bad stuff from the dead bird water. Also filtering the same water side by side with my Platypus Quickdraw I did notice the Sawyer's ability to filter out some of the muck a little better. This is a great gear list of affordable stuff. The Govee is going to be in Christmas stocking this year!
Question about the Govee thermometer... Do they work without wifi cause I used other ones before and they wouldn't work without wifi and well....I don't have any when I'm in the woods.
It should probably be stated for others. Sawyer does not filter out viruses. Filtering from a source with dead animal is not smart unless you are desperate (which he was).
Thats because he has no clue of real fieldcraft. Fur trappers, pioneers had none of this stuff. You need protection, an immune system adapted to drink available water. Knowlwdge to build a fish weir, and knowledge of snares to catch game quietly. Only modern device i would have would be a magnifying glass to start fires. Dont work in cold climates, but our ancestors would pack up and move..
Gear From This Video ⬇️:
- CNOC Vecto X Water Bag: geni.us/VectoX-2L
- Sawyer Squeeze Water Filter: geni.us/Sawyer-Squeeze-GGG
- Backcountry Exposure Food Bag: geni.us/BCE-Etsy-Store
- GGG Accessory Bags: geni.us/GGG-Organization-Bags
- Govee Thermometer: geni.us/Govee-Thermometer
- BoglerCo Trowel: geni.us/Bogler-Trowel
- Tailwind Nutrition: geni.us/TailwindNutrition-GGG
- Squak Squaker 32oz Bottle: geni.us/Squak-SquakerBottle
- Toaks 550ml Pot: geni.us/Toaks550ml
- Fire Maple Petrel Pot: geni.us/FM-PetrelPot-Amazon
- Fire Maple Green Peak Stove: geni.us/FM-GreenPeak-Amazon
Cnoc VectoX can handle boiling water. It is one reason that I am considering buying another one, as I just have a Vecto regular model. I have thought that it would be nice to have in winter, but i guess that might be too much water to heat
Have been using the Sawyer Squeeze filter for over 8 years. Love it. Two additional points. First, everyone needs to know that the filter should not be exposed to below freezing weather because the residual water in the filter will freeze and it will no longer work. Second, Sawyer contributes 90% of their profits to clean water projects around the world. And they recently made a huge donation of filters and other products to people impacted by Hurricane Helene.
Agreed! Don't let it or any hollow fiber filter freeze. Love how much Sawyer gives back!
That Is super cool my next filter will be a sawyer for sure
Great point on the Sawyer. Many of the competing filters have questionable testing documentation as well. Sawyers charitable contributions are also incredible.
Sawyer's testing protocol and detail is top notch! And yes, their commitment to clean water is amazing. Having seen it first hand, it's also a huge contributor to why I support them. :)
I only use Sawyer so don't get me wrong but, in what way is other companies testing and documentation questionable? Is that just something that you heard that you are repeating or are you a testing and/or statistics documentation of water filtering expert of some type?
@@Rando-user-zm1fxI requested testing documentation from all competing filters companies. Some are shockingly suspect. Unregulated laboratories and using incorrect testing protocols. Other companies who won’t share their test results are also untrustworthy. Feel free to request your own documents by emailing the companies. I wouldn’t trust any filter with my health except Sawyer or Katadyn.
@@Rando-user-zm1fxsomehow my reply got deleted. I researched all the major filter makers testing documentation. Sawyer and Katadyn were the only ones I feel confident do thorough testing under the correct protocols. A few other makers who sent me lab results were incredibly suspect-uncertified lab, wrong testing method used for water filters and very exaggerated filtering claims. I suggest you request the documents and research this yourself.
All good pieces of gear. Especially Devin's bags that he makes for his Etsy store. I have a lot of dirt time with and I am proud to say, these items are well made and will stand the test if time.
Thank you, Adam!
Might be overkill, but if the water is stagnant or questionable I put a sani tab in first and then filter.
Anybody have experience with the sawyer micro water filter?
I advise you to do the opposite. Chemical treatment is less efficient in "dirty" water.
I'm filtering boiling and treating water that has a dead bird in it
But credit due the sawyer is a serious bit of kit! I currently have a befree but my next filter will be a sawyer squeeze for sure
@@georgedawson235 I have taken water from ridiculous water sources and only used the Sawyer. Never been sick. Trust your gear. or you could do all kinds of nonsense to feel better. Is that called neurosis?
Fire maple is putting out some cool gear. Great video Devin!
Gotta love the go-to gear!
I, too, use the Vecto 2L bladder - BEST in class.
Agreed - Sawyer Squeeze, drop dead, down & dirty, reliable.
I really like your home-made food bag.
FireSteel ferro rod & striker which I can use with gloved hands & fluffed up hemp rope in small ziplok baggie for tinder are items I always have - drop dead, down & dirty, reliable ignition source, anytime, anywhere.
Warm Regards from Reno, Nevada
Always appreciate your comments!
The hemp rope and ferro rod is the best combo I've found yet for starting fires. One strike every time
@@johnnyolson258 I, & others, have come to realize the FireSteel brand of ferro rod does, in fact, product "more & hotter sparks" than other brands because their Ferrro Rod includes a higher percentage of Rare Earths, which is WHAT create the sparks. Plus the handle on the striker & Ferro rod are large enough to be used with Gloved hands. The FireSteel brand of Ferro Rod actually fits inside the striker's handle which means your Ferro Rod & Striker are always together. Yes, it takes time to fluff the hemp string - I cut 10) strings then separate/fluff the fibers & insert the fluff mass inside a 3" x 3" ziplok baggie to keep it dry. The bright ORANGE colored handles of the striker & Ferro Rod are easy to find if you set one or the other on the ground.
Govee thermometer is sweet! I love mine and already had a set of their smart lights so it was an added bonus that it works with the same app.
Agree that the Fire Maple Petrel pot is excellent. Pairs great with my DIY alcohol burners. Boils about 20% faster and s uses less fuel. Or it will boil more water with a given amount of alcohol.
Stellar list! I keep meaning to get one of those water bottles. I’ll still be a gram weenie on backpacking trips (fits filters, weighs less, etc), but those squakers look killer for day hiking.
Organization bags are so great. I love the Litesmith Zipza for ditty, LiteAF bags for first aid and a sweet food bag made by this cook RUclips creator I know. 😉
I have one of your 4.5L zipper bags and love it. Did you say you made a 3L version? I don't see it in your etsy shop. Anyway, the design is great and I'd love to see it in a larger size for clothing and a few smaller sizes for electronics, ditties, or first aid. I've never been a fan of the pouch style bags. I bet you'd have quite a market if you wanted to branch out to different sizes.
@@elisebrown5157 Awesome! Yes I have a smaller, 3L size. I just added a few in a blue color.
I am working on a bigger 6L option probably. Just need to dial in dimensions.
And yes, I have patterns for a smaller size too, just have been busy in getting more options available. But stay tuned!
@@BackcountryExposure I just ordered the 3L and another 4.5L in a different color. And I will definitely stay posted for those additional sizes when they become available. Thanks!
@ thank you so much!
Crazy to sew your own food bag. Reclosable big potato chip barrier bags are lighter and free. Carried a thermometer, never used it even once. Zip bags Polyethylene for TP bag. Use a reclosable springwater bottle, it weighs less, it's durable, will hold hot water.
@@nicholsonscience6229 cool, that’s great to have found options that function well for you. It’s good to have options. We all have our own preferences and needs. Sounds like you found some great solutions for you. 👍🏻
@@BackcountryExposure Sleep comfortably, stay dry & hydrated, take less food.
Anyone have experience with the Sawyer Micro water filter?
It’s a great filter! It does have a tendency to slow a little quicker, so really good back flushing makes all the difference with it.
That bottle looks great. May need to get a couple of those.
Definitely!
Devin you have too many tents! If you want to part with your Tarptent Dipole 2 Li, you'd be making my holidays super special :)
@@zachweinberg8318 I don’t have the 2 Li, but that is the 1 Li. And unfortunately it’s not for sale. 😬😊
That tent is excellent though!
I’d also give two thumbs up for the Tailwind Endurance fuel. Worked great in Denali last summer. Tasted great as well. Definitely be taking it on an Arctic hike next year. Only drawback is that it is heavy so I have to count some of the weight towards the total calories I’m packing.
Agreed, the endurance fuel might be heavier than a Honeybun... which is about 200 calories too.
These influencers love their lists, i was thinking of my own list. Hiking influencers you would like to go hiking with. Your top 5. Mine is
Simon, a bloke in the woods
Scottys gone walkabouts
Bryce newbold
Quadzilla
And yes Devon.
Interested to hear other peoples out there.
I got one of those govee temp sensors and the battery lasts a long ass time!
I've had a pinhole on my normal Vecto but it kind of fixed itself lol. If the X were around at the time I'd probably pick that up. I wish there was a way to tell if the Squeeze was compromised. I should probably pick up a new one just in case.
A diy Caldera cone with a Trangia 27 pot (cooking for more than one) when my kids come with me. Saved the day when the Jetboil wouldn’t vaporize on a very cold Spring morning at 6200 feet.
Nice!
Love the Govee thermometer, for the reasons you said. I like the CNOC bags, but the threads and caps are poor and leaky. The plastic in the caps particularly is softer than it should be. The FireMaple pot is terrific, though I found I wanted a stove variant with a piezo igniter as seating a full pot on the 3 prongs can be fussy.
Ikea sells bags with zip openings for food and are inexpensive
And I use ziplock bags for organizing small things
They wear out but slowly and much much cheaper
That looks like a nice food bag! I make my own as well, i get them for free from the grocery store. And they are recyclable.
@@jesseslavik8638 excellent! Mine are also made from recycled fabrics.
@@BackcountryExposurewell I just might have to buy one of those 🤔
How did dead bird water taste? Have you considered a grayl or msr guardian for hikes in places with really crummy water supplies?
Oddly enough the dead bird water didn’t taste all that bad. The next pot hole on that trip that we got water from the next day was much much worse. Almost like licking the inside of a rubber tire. Ha ha!
I have a Grayl and find I never look to carry it cause it just isn’t as convenient, at least for me.
Will that FireMaple pot work with the MSR pocket rocket 2?
You'll need to bend the supports a touch to make it work to fit in the slots. Otherwise it'll work by just setting it on top and not into the slots.
@ thank you!
I would totally be into those water bottles for winter if I already didn't have half a dozen nalgenes. I like the cnoc for a backup for longer water carries, but I just use the smart water bottle squeeze filter method. I love seeing other people's kit. Pretty sold stuff. Hope to hike in Utah this yr. I think it looks ideal.
Reach out when you’re coming here if you want beta on hikes!
@@BackcountryExposureI'm not sure what that means, beta?
@ sorry that’s a climbing term. Just means the skinny, information and such.
Ok thanks. 👍
Dead bird water: Yikes! Did you add chlorine dioxide after filtering? I would have.
sawyer squeeze pulling from a water source with decaying animals? i wouldnt do that alone. I would use something like potable aqua as well to ensure viruses are killed as well.
On those water bottles is there an apparatus that you can get to attach your Sawyer Squeeze to it; like you can the Smart water bottles?
Good question. I don't know a specific product or what you'd be looking for. But maybe as an inline filter you could do that, like with the One Bottle system.
@@BackcountryExposure You can attach your Sawyer straight to a water bottle. Is there an attachment that goes from the plastic bottle to you your Sawyer?
@@jaymecarter7425 I don’t know of a plastic cap that has the Nalgene style threading with 28mm male threading on the top to thread the sawyer on to. Maybe someone has 3D printed something like that?
I mention the one bottle product cause you can use that and cut the tubing and use the filter as an inline filter. 🤷🏻♂️
I've 3D printed bottle adaptors for my Sawyer.
I would just like to say in the moment you were not so confident in the Sawyer's ability(or any filter's ability) to filter out bad stuff from the dead bird water. Also filtering the same water side by side with my Platypus Quickdraw I did notice the Sawyer's ability to filter out some of the muck a little better. This is a great gear list of affordable stuff. The Govee is going to be in Christmas stocking this year!
You're not wrong! Add the emotion of the day and it being the only option, it complicated things for sure!
Purchased a Silverado UG 4.5 L from you last week. Been watching for a while, so it was about time I threw you a few bones.
@@joker2100 thank you!!! Really appreciate the extra support!
Question about the Govee thermometer... Do they work without wifi cause I used other ones before and they wouldn't work without wifi and well....I don't have any when I'm in the woods.
I have one and it works solely on Bluetooth, which works perfectly with your phone whether at home or in the woods. Great thermometer!
Like the other comment, it works Bluetooth only, no need for WiFi. They are awesome!
It should probably be stated for others. Sawyer does not filter out viruses. Filtering from a source with dead animal is not smart unless you are desperate (which he was).
Boiling sterilizes
Thats because he has no clue of real fieldcraft. Fur trappers, pioneers had none of this stuff. You need protection, an immune system adapted to drink available water. Knowlwdge to build a fish weir, and knowledge of snares to catch game quietly. Only modern device i would have would be a magnifying glass to start fires. Dont work in cold climates, but our ancestors would pack up and move..
@@Letnothinggotowaste sounds like you ought to start recording your experience and sharing as well.