very nice video,you sounded nice and clear, wish others did lol... getting my new phonak paradise aids next week, quite excited about getting them, thanks
Absolutely understood the video. Appreciated to be able to lipread (as Claudia pointed out) Emma throughout the entire video. Very informative without sounding like a shill for Phonak.
Hope it works well for you, Bob! We've had a lot of our own clients really appreciate that the Paradise can pair to 2 Bluetooth Classic devices at the same time.
Hi Jack, Hope you're still enjoying your new Paradise hearing aids. We're finding that pairing directly to Bluetooth-enabled TVs can be a bit hit and miss. Sometimes it can be resolved by changing your TV settings, but some of our clients are finding that it's more stable and a better sound quality to use the TVConnector accessory for TV streaming.
Thanks for the review. I've just gotten these and love them. Disappointingly however, I'm not finding that I can pair to multiple devices. Pairing an additional one causes the previously paired one to disconnect.
Hi Donnie. What you are experiencing is actually correct, you can "pair" to up to 8 devices but you can only "connect" to two at a time. Hope that makes sense!! Let us know if you have any other questions, glad to hear that you love them!!
Hi Emma thanks for the reviews ... actually im getting trial next month and I can't wait. Been using phonak for 8 years which is great and now need to get new one😀
I see there is a rechargeable vs 13 battery model in a P90. What limitations do the battery vs rechargeable models as I see the battery does not offer tap control?
@medic550 The biggest difference is that the rechargeable option offers motion sensors in the hearing aids, which can change how the microphones function when there is noise and movement detected. This, of course, also allows for tap control. The size 13 battery model offers a telecoil as well (so would need the RT model in the rechargeable for this feature).
I'm in trial period on the paradise p50 RT and I have a question. I have a option to move up to the p70s for $500 extra, no option on the p90s. do you think the upgrade to the p70s would be worth the upgrade for the added features?
موضوع جيد وشيق شكرا على المعلومات لكن لا اعتقد ان معالجة الطنين المزمن والمزعج يأتي من السماعة.وعند تواجد ضعف السمع بكلتا الأذنين لا استطيع ان أتحمل تكاليف سماعتين فهل من الممكن أن تعوض واحدة بدل الأثنين بهذه التكنلوجيا الجديدة
Hi thanks for the very informative video! One question for me - how is the bluetooth latency when it comes to watching videos on computers? I've tried pairing my Bluetooth loop with my windows pc and have gotten frustrated because of the A. fragility of the connection, and b. delays with audio compared to mouths moving etc. Thanks!
Hi very informative video, thank you. I live in Australia and have a Google Pixel 5 Phones. Can you please tell me if it's compatible and supported by the Fonak Paradise Hearing Aid devise?
Between Emma and Dr. Cliff out in Arizona, the user can get a whole bunch of guidance and information regarding these devices. I am waiting with baited breath for my new hearing aids, the Phonak Marvel or Paradise.
How would you compare Widex Moment and Phonak Paradise. I mean sound processing, are they both equally high quality, I mean equally good sound processing processors?
Hi Markic, they are both at the top of the market when it comes to speech audibility in noise. However, they have generally taken quite different approaches in their signal processing in order to achieve this, but it looks like the new signal processing strategy from Phonak is emulating some of Widex's strategies. It'll be interesting to see how it goes. Some hearing losses will still be more suited to Widex and vice versa. Hope that helps!
@@benignomarko355 also find a good, independent Audiologist who is confident with both brands and able to guide you as which one is most likely to suit you the best. Good luck!!
@@ValueHearing Thank you. I have to wait for the BTE version because my hearing loss is too big for the RIC version. Thanks again, I will continue to follow you with pleasure :)
I have ski slope hearing loss mixed with cookie bite hearing loss. So is this one suitable for me ? or maybe a widex moment or a signia pure x is better ? please let me know your opinion. tks u very much.
I am on 3rd week trying the naida paradise p90 up. I strange the ups and downs on the volume that it does by itself in different situations. How to fix it? Tia.
Hi Esther, thank you for your comment. The Autosense 4 would be choosing the program for you automatically. Some programs have much more aggressive noise reduction that could make it feel like the volume is dropping. You can ask your clinician to reduce the contrast between the programs for you, so that it doesn't feel so isolating. Alternatively you could use a manual program, where the settings are stable and use that when you feel you want things to be more steady.
Thanks for excellent overview. I know that phonak has naida marvel BTE for profound hearing loss. So will we get any naida paradise BTE for profound loss. Do you have any idea?
Hi Ferdous, thank you for your lovely comment! The Naida on the Marvel chip was only released earlier this year, so it is likely to take at approximately another 18 months before it is released. However, the Bolero (BTE) is being released early next year and there is some indication that it will have some very powerful models released with it so you may find you don't need to wait for Naida in order to access the power that you require. We shall keep you informed on this channel! :)
I have been trialing resound ones .. the Bluetooth is awful with it and I have a pair of phonaks that I will be trialing for 2 weeks .. I cant deal with the having to re pair with the charger etc to get them to actually pair . I walk 10 feet away and boom its unpaired. have to carry phone all the time ..egads .. I'm looking forward to trying it.
Hi Dee, something definitely doesn't sound right here, you should talk to your audiologist. They should not unpair when they are separated by 10m, just disconnect. It should be easy to get them to reconnect. However, you will most likely enjoy the bluetooth streaming on Phonak more, our clients reports that the quality from the Phonak streaming is much better than what they have gotten from Resound. Let us know how you go!!
Great video and most informative! I’m a log time hearing aid wearer and my last two aids were both Bluetooth enabled ; Starkey Halo & ReSoumd. My current audiologist is pitching Phonak , the new Paradise. My concern is what level she’s pitching may be based on price and Medicare allowances here in the USA, What premium levels are best. 50 or 70?
Hi Ron, The Phonak P90 is the premium level, followed by P70, P50 and P30 in decreasing order. The level of technology required would really depend on how you hear in noise. At Value Hearing, we always advocate speech in noise testing, which helps narrow down the selection to the level of technology that you need to support your brain in order to hear best in noise.
@@ValueHearing Thanks for the reply and update. I'm a three decade hearing aid user, so I'm fairly knowledgeable. I've had Starkey Halo's, ReSound and now these P 50's. I'm not really sure they're on a par with either of my last two devices. Could just be the lousy service I'm getting from the United Healthcare/Medicare provider who's not an audiologist. The service and attention from COSTCO (ReSounds) were better. The app, I'm learning but it too is not up to the Smart 3 D!
Thanks for the video .... I don't have a volume problem. i hear but i have a mix problem of letters similarity i cant distinguish btw s t or sh or ch or f , or z with j sometimes hear f like s which makes it difficult to hear properly ... Does phonak solve this problem ? I used to have a hearing aid of other company but no result . Thanks for reply in advance.
Hi Issam, Sounds like you have a high frequency hearing loss. The sounds you've indicated are softer high pitched sounds. Depending on the severity of the hearing loss in the high frequencies, most well-fitted hearing aids should accomplish this. Real Ear Measurements are of utmost importance to ensure the hearing aids are giving you access to those sounds for YOUR ears. Phonak hearing aids certainly offer a natural sound quality and also have features that can provide more access to soft sounds and those high pitched sounds in particular. Best to talk to an audiologist and also undergo speech in noise testing and have ongoing support with hearing aids to ensure that you continue to receive optimal results from your hearing aids.
@@ValueHearing @Value Hearing Hi ! Actually, what you said was a summary of what im looking for ...you made me aware of my real problem before I meet a new Audiologist . Thank you for your valuable information that I was need of them. Do Phonak Marvel one of HAs that access to those sounds? Thanks for your time . Cordially Issam
I got my phonak cros aids last week. I'm struggling to say the least. They are so fiddly and tiny. I'm terrified of even touching them, I will end up breaking them in frustration. The battery life is terrible. I can't change the batteries by myself. And I can't use my phone with them, I have to take my aids out to use my phone
Hi Susan! Did you get used to it? I am also in my trial weeks with phonak cros but... not yet sure if i want to pay so much for these. Phone app doesnt work, they dont even know when. My good ear hurts from the ear canal part, despite of second type smaller domes. Battery life is also not great. And honestly, the sound transfer from my deaf side is... meh.
@@ValueHearing, wow, it's a very great info :) Thanks! I forgot to question about motion sensor - does it also works with unilateral fitting, or require 4 mics quite as StereoZoom?
Hi Emma, loved your review! Lighting & speech pattern was spot on for cool lip readers 👍 From one audio to another I’m probably excited to see how different it sounds plus the effects on clients who have degree of tinnitus. All the best🤞🏻
UPDATE: Dec 7, 2021 After almost 1 year with Phonak Paradise P90 with rechargeable batteries I'm having HA problems. In May 2021 I sent my right HA back as it was shutting down completely randomly. I had the right HA sent back to Phonak and came back I guess OK. No word what happened or was wrong. Now in June the right HA shutdown by itself and was full charged as it has been int he past The only way out was a HARD Reset which took a few times to achieve but started backup ok. Now Dec started and the right HA started to shut down again by itself and was unable to turn back on even after been sitting in charger and still no lights on HA at all. I tried two time with a hard reset and finally came back to life. HARD RESET STEPS 1. Hold the low volume for over 30 seconds. Lights may or may not come on or off but don't worry about this. 2. After holding the down volume for over 30 seconds place in charger and wait. At this time, it may or may not come back to life but look for a green flashing or sold light before removing. Sometimes it may take a few tries, but I was told holding it long than 30 seconds is OK as I have held it for over 1 minute then place it in the charger. Have scheduled for appointment next Tuesday with my Audiologist. Wish me luck.
@@ValueHearing I don’t think that they are that interested in this market anymore unfortunately for people like myself from the response I got directly from the company hopefully other hearing aid companies will make more breakthroughs for single sided hearing
Hi John, It can really depend on your ability to hear in noise whether you'd find the P90 different from the P70. We highly recommend having a speech in noise test to see what level of technology suits you best.
I've had NHS hearing aids since birth. I would love to get rechargeable Bluetooth hearing aids on the NHS. Surely at least introducing rechargeable hearing aids on the NHS will ultimately bring down costs with the eradication of single use batteries. The environment would benefit too!
First time hearing aid wearer and have been trialing the P70s for a month now. Having trouble with Bluetooth connectivity with my iPhone Xr. Streaming music and phone calls will temporarily drop out based on where my phone is with respect to the hearing aids. This is especially true when outside. Is this a known problem/limitation with the Phonak Paradises? Or possibly a problem with my pair?
Hi Joe, the transmission range for Bluetooth is approximately 10 metres, and can be subject to interferences, e.g. flourescent lighting, microwaves, excessive power cables, large bodies of water etc. Being out of range or near interferences can cause a temporary drop out. Also, the Bluetooth Classic pairing from your phone to your hearing aids is only paired to one hearing aid (which transmits the audio to the other hearing aid). So if you tend to carry your phone in a pocket, make sure you put it on the side of your body that matches the hearing aid paired to your phone for the most stable connection. We have a video on Bluetooth issues and hearing aids coming soon, so keep an eye out for this!
Thanks for a simple, logical presentation of the Phonak Paradise product enhancements to the previous Phonak model - Marvel...
Our pleasure Gene!
Switched from Marvel to Paradise two weeks ago. Very satisfied as all the improvements you mentioned are indeed true!
That is great to hear!! Thank you so much for making the effort to comment and share your experiences with us :)
very nice video,you sounded nice and clear, wish others did lol... getting my new phonak paradise aids next week, quite excited about getting them,
thanks
Thanks Kevin! Hope you love the new hearing aids!
Absolutely understood the video. Appreciated to be able to lipread (as Claudia pointed out) Emma throughout the entire video. Very informative without sounding like a shill for Phonak.
Thanks so much for making the effort to comment and give such wonderful feedback, we really appreciate the support!!
I just received a pair of phonak rechargeable hearing aids I think they are awesome
I'm in America and just ordered these and will be fitted next week. I am excited about the blue tooth connections ability.
Hope it works well for you, Bob! We've had a lot of our own clients really appreciate that the Paradise can pair to 2 Bluetooth Classic devices at the same time.
I just got my new Phonak Paradise hearing aids. They are very nice. Need to learn all the Bluetooth features. Want to pair with my big screen TV.
Hi Jack, Hope you're still enjoying your new Paradise hearing aids. We're finding that pairing directly to Bluetooth-enabled TVs can be a bit hit and miss. Sometimes it can be resolved by changing your TV settings, but some of our clients are finding that it's more stable and a better sound quality to use the TVConnector accessory for TV streaming.
Thanks for the review. I've just gotten these and love them. Disappointingly however, I'm not finding that I can pair to multiple devices. Pairing an additional one causes the previously paired one to disconnect.
Hi Donnie. What you are experiencing is actually correct, you can "pair" to up to 8 devices but you can only "connect" to two at a time. Hope that makes sense!! Let us know if you have any other questions, glad to hear that you love them!!
Hi Emma thanks for the reviews ... actually im getting trial next month and I can't wait. Been using phonak for 8 years which is great and now need to get new one😀
Let us know how you go. I'm sure you'll notice a massive improvement.
I see there is a rechargeable vs 13 battery model in a P90. What limitations do the battery vs rechargeable models as I see the battery does not offer tap control?
@medic550 The biggest difference is that the rechargeable option offers motion sensors in the hearing aids, which can change how the microphones function when there is noise and movement detected. This, of course, also allows for tap control. The size 13 battery model offers a telecoil as well (so would need the RT model in the rechargeable for this feature).
I'm in trial period on the paradise p50 RT and I have a question. I have a option to move up to the p70s for $500 extra, no option on the p90s. do you think the upgrade to the p70s would be worth the upgrade for the added features?
موضوع جيد وشيق شكرا على المعلومات لكن لا اعتقد ان معالجة الطنين المزمن والمزعج يأتي من السماعة.وعند تواجد ضعف السمع بكلتا الأذنين لا استطيع ان أتحمل تكاليف سماعتين فهل من الممكن أن تعوض واحدة بدل الأثنين بهذه التكنلوجيا الجديدة
Do you have a updates for this model ? Or review ? Thank you.
Great video. Lots of interesting info about bluetooth capability! Thanks Emma! 10/10!
Thanks, Christine!!
Hi thanks for the very informative video! One question for me - how is the bluetooth latency when it comes to watching videos on computers? I've tried pairing my Bluetooth loop with my windows pc and have gotten frustrated because of the A. fragility of the connection, and b. delays with audio compared to mouths moving etc. Thanks!
Hi very informative video, thank you. I live in Australia and have a Google Pixel 5 Phones. Can you please tell me if it's compatible and supported by the Fonak Paradise Hearing Aid devise?
Hi Christina, You can check phone compatibility here: www.phonak.com/com/en/support/product-support/compatibility.html
Short answer, yes, compatible.
Between Emma and Dr. Cliff out in Arizona, the user can get a whole bunch of guidance and information regarding these devices. I am waiting with baited breath for my new hearing aids, the Phonak Marvel or Paradise.
How would you compare Widex Moment and Phonak Paradise. I mean sound processing, are they both equally high quality, I mean equally good sound processing processors?
Hi Markic, they are both at the top of the market when it comes to speech audibility in noise. However, they have generally taken quite different approaches in their signal processing in order to achieve this, but it looks like the new signal processing strategy from Phonak is emulating some of Widex's strategies. It'll be interesting to see how it goes. Some hearing losses will still be more suited to Widex and vice versa. Hope that helps!
@@ValueHearing Thanks for your reply, when the time comes, I will try both hearing aids to see which one suits me best.
@@benignomarko355 also find a good, independent Audiologist who is confident with both brands and able to guide you as which one is most likely to suit you the best. Good luck!!
@@ValueHearing Thank you.
I have to wait for the BTE version because my hearing loss is too big for the RIC version.
Thanks again, I will continue to follow you with pleasure :)
I have ski slope hearing loss mixed with cookie bite hearing loss. So is this one suitable for me ? or maybe a widex moment or a signia pure x is better ? please let me know your opinion. tks u very much.
Hello! Phonak have a frequency compression features (SoundRecover 2) that is perfect for ski-slope hearing loss, so I would definitely give this a go!
I am on 3rd week trying the naida paradise p90 up. I strange the ups and downs on the volume that it does by itself in different situations. How to fix it? Tia.
Hi Esther, thank you for your comment. The Autosense 4 would be choosing the program for you automatically. Some programs have much more aggressive noise reduction that could make it feel like the volume is dropping. You can ask your clinician to reduce the contrast between the programs for you, so that it doesn't feel so isolating. Alternatively you could use a manual program, where the settings are stable and use that when you feel you want things to be more steady.
Thanks for excellent overview.
I know that phonak has naida marvel BTE for profound hearing loss. So will we get any naida paradise BTE for profound loss. Do you have any idea?
Hi Ferdous, thank you for your lovely comment! The Naida on the Marvel chip was only released earlier this year, so it is likely to take at approximately another 18 months before it is released. However, the Bolero (BTE) is being released early next year and there is some indication that it will have some very powerful models released with it so you may find you don't need to wait for Naida in order to access the power that you require. We shall keep you informed on this channel! :)
I have been trialing resound ones .. the Bluetooth is awful with it and I have a pair of phonaks that I will be trialing for 2 weeks .. I cant deal with the having to re pair with the charger etc to get them to actually pair . I walk 10 feet away and boom its unpaired. have to carry phone all the time ..egads .. I'm looking forward to trying it.
Hi Dee, something definitely doesn't sound right here, you should talk to your audiologist. They should not unpair when they are separated by 10m, just disconnect. It should be easy to get them to reconnect. However, you will most likely enjoy the bluetooth streaming on Phonak more, our clients reports that the quality from the Phonak streaming is much better than what they have gotten from Resound. Let us know how you go!!
Great video and most informative! I’m a log time hearing aid wearer and my last two aids were both Bluetooth enabled ; Starkey Halo & ReSoumd.
My current audiologist is pitching Phonak , the new Paradise. My concern is what level she’s pitching may be based on price and Medicare allowances here in the USA, What premium levels are best. 50 or 70?
Hi Ron, The Phonak P90 is the premium level, followed by P70, P50 and P30 in decreasing order. The level of technology required would really depend on how you hear in noise. At Value Hearing, we always advocate speech in noise testing, which helps narrow down the selection to the level of technology that you need to support your brain in order to hear best in noise.
@@ValueHearing Thanks for the reply and update. I'm a three decade hearing aid user, so I'm fairly knowledgeable. I've had Starkey Halo's, ReSound and now these P 50's. I'm not really sure they're on a par with either of my last two devices. Could just be the lousy service I'm getting from the United Healthcare/Medicare provider who's not an audiologist. The service and attention from COSTCO (ReSounds) were better. The app, I'm learning but it too is not up to the Smart 3 D!
Thanks for the video .... I don't have a volume problem. i hear but i have a mix problem of letters similarity i cant distinguish btw s t or sh or ch or f , or z with j sometimes hear f like s which makes it difficult to hear properly ... Does phonak solve this problem ? I used to have a hearing aid of other company but no result . Thanks for reply in advance.
Hi Issam, Sounds like you have a high frequency hearing loss. The sounds you've indicated are softer high pitched sounds. Depending on the severity of the hearing loss in the high frequencies, most well-fitted hearing aids should accomplish this. Real Ear Measurements are of utmost importance to ensure the hearing aids are giving you access to those sounds for YOUR ears. Phonak hearing aids certainly offer a natural sound quality and also have features that can provide more access to soft sounds and those high pitched sounds in particular. Best to talk to an audiologist and also undergo speech in noise testing and have ongoing support with hearing aids to ensure that you continue to receive optimal results from your hearing aids.
@@ValueHearing @Value Hearing Hi ! Actually, what you said was a summary of what im looking for ...you made me aware of my real problem before I meet a new Audiologist . Thank you for your valuable information that I was need of them. Do Phonak Marvel one of HAs that access to those sounds? Thanks for your time . Cordially Issam
I got my phonak cros aids last week. I'm struggling to say the least. They are so fiddly and tiny. I'm terrified of even touching them, I will end up breaking them in frustration. The battery life is terrible. I can't change the batteries by myself. And I can't use my phone with them, I have to take my aids out to use my phone
Hi Susan! Did you get used to it? I am also in my trial weeks with phonak cros but... not yet sure if i want to pay so much for these. Phone app doesnt work, they dont even know when. My good ear hurts from the ear canal part, despite of second type smaller domes. Battery life is also not great. And honestly, the sound transfer from my deaf side is... meh.
Does Dynamic Noise Cancellation works when the user wear only one heaing aid or this feature require binaural settings?
Hi Adam, great question! Yes, the dynamic noise cancellation still works with a unilateral fitting :)
@@ValueHearing, wow, it's a very great info :) Thanks!
I forgot to question about motion sensor - does it also works with unilateral fitting, or require 4 mics quite as StereoZoom?
Any news on the Cros?? Thank you
We're hopeful that it will be this year
Very helpful video. Thank you.
You're welcome!
Hi Emma, loved your review!
Lighting & speech pattern was spot on for cool lip readers 👍
From one audio to another I’m probably excited to see how different it sounds plus the effects on clients who have degree of tinnitus.
All the best🤞🏻
Hi Claudia, thank you so much for your feedback, that means a lot from you! Hope to catch you at a conference soon :)
hi can you buletooth Phonak Paradise Hearing Aids to a pc thanks.
can it connect to an iphone and surface pro laptop?
Hi Aliaa, thank you for the question. You certainly can. I have been doing exactly that with my Marvels and Paradise allows this too.
UPDATE: Dec 7, 2021
After almost 1 year with Phonak Paradise P90 with rechargeable batteries I'm having HA problems.
In May 2021 I sent my right HA back as it was shutting down completely randomly.
I had the right HA sent back to Phonak and came back I guess OK.
No word what happened or was wrong.
Now in June the right HA shutdown by itself and was full charged as it has been int he past
The only way out was a HARD Reset which took a few times to achieve but started backup ok.
Now Dec started and the right HA started to shut down again by itself and was unable to turn back on even after been sitting in charger and still no lights on HA at all.
I tried two time with a hard reset and finally came back to life.
HARD RESET STEPS
1. Hold the low volume for over 30 seconds. Lights may or may not come on or off but don't worry about this.
2. After holding the down volume for over 30 seconds place in charger and wait.
At this time, it may or may not come back to life but look for a green flashing or sold light before removing.
Sometimes it may take a few tries, but I was told holding it long than 30 seconds is OK as I have held it for over 1 minute then place it in the charger.
Have scheduled for appointment next Tuesday with my Audiologist.
Wish me luck.
Love that Northern Ireland accent. 💚
Thank you :)
Has Phonak commented about the possibility of future CROS compatibility for the Paradise?
Hi Dale, not officially but it will almost definitely come out at some point for Paradise!
The features and wireless capability appears to allow for a CROS. If it is coming, I would expect to see it early 2021
@@ValueHearing I don’t think that they are that interested in this market anymore unfortunately for people like myself from the response I got directly from the company hopefully other hearing aid companies will make more breakthroughs for single sided hearing
Am I hearing a Northern Ireland accent from Emma? Great Vid cheers
Hi Martin!! Yes, you are indeed. Born and bred Tyrone!! Are you a fellow countryman yourself? Thanks for the comment and support!!
Is the P90 worth the money over the P70?
Hi John, It can really depend on your ability to hear in noise whether you'd find the P90 different from the P70. We highly recommend having a speech in noise test to see what level of technology suits you best.
Useful video
Thank you!!
I've had NHS hearing aids since birth. I would love to get rechargeable Bluetooth hearing aids on the NHS. Surely at least introducing rechargeable hearing aids on the NHS will ultimately bring down costs with the eradication of single use batteries. The environment would benefit too!
You would think so, hopefully the NHS can negotiate this with one of the manufacturers soon!
@@ValueHearing I was told that the disposable battery hearing aids have more power, is that true?
First time hearing aid wearer and have been trialing the P70s for a month now. Having trouble with Bluetooth connectivity with my iPhone Xr. Streaming music and phone calls will temporarily drop out based on where my phone is with respect to the hearing aids. This is especially true when outside. Is this a known problem/limitation with the Phonak Paradises? Or possibly a problem with my pair?
Hi Joe, the transmission range for Bluetooth is approximately 10 metres, and can be subject to interferences, e.g. flourescent lighting, microwaves, excessive power cables, large bodies of water etc. Being out of range or near interferences can cause a temporary drop out. Also, the Bluetooth Classic pairing from your phone to your hearing aids is only paired to one hearing aid (which transmits the audio to the other hearing aid). So if you tend to carry your phone in a pocket, make sure you put it on the side of your body that matches the hearing aid paired to your phone for the most stable connection. We have a video on Bluetooth issues and hearing aids coming soon, so keep an eye out for this!
@@ValueHearing Thank you!
Hi emma,could you just tell me the price for one device 😱😱
Hi Eliakim, you can see our Paradise pricing here: shop.valuehearing.com.au/search?q=Paradise*&type=product
Phonak life is on i have naida v30 up
We're expecting that Phonak will release the Naida P in a UP model in the future, as the UP was missed in the Marvel release.
Measyy