Edit: be careful with Atomstack, they tend NOT to provide technical assistance, so if you happen to have a machine that is not perfect, there is serious trouble Thanks for the tutorial ----- the shielding cage around the laser made me prefer the Atomstack (bought for less than 200 €) , which despite being spartan (it does not have limit switches and not even the on / off switch) is robust and comes already partially assembled, but the fact that they do not provide technical assistance suggests that they are a firm not to be recommended
HI,bryanS, Nice to meet you. I think your idea is very good. Can you pay attention to my homepage?We also have good quality laser machine equipment, if you have any questions about the laser.machine, please feel free to consult.I am honored to meet you here, and I hope we can work hard together!
I have the atomstack, pure junk, wish I had bought the Ortur. Here is why, the Ortur has 4 wheels to guide the laser, the atomstack only has 3, and you keep getting a wobble, impossible to tighten.Next if you use lightburn you have to eyeball the framing no matter what keys you press you cannot get the laser light to work, next is the auto stops, the atomstack has none, the Ortur does. Last is customer service, forget about contacting atomstack the only response you get is send videos of the problem, they will not offer any help. My advice to anyone who reads this comment is buy the Ortur.
Hi Bob! I don't think Atomstack can be considered junk. The machine I have had the opportunity to test is solid and works well, no wobble. You may not know it, but one of the 3 screws you speak of has an eccentric ring, which can be adjusted with the wrench (which you find supplied with the machine) to adjust the tightening. The machine is equipped with a standard grbl firmware. I don't know the kind of issue you re talking about (i don't use lightburn) but I believe it is not a problem of the machine (maybe an issue with lightburn configuration?). However I have forwarded your message to my contact in Atomstack so they can check your issue.
@@lasergrbl I know about the eccentric, and have tightened it several times. I just ordered this to solve the problem: www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001814032210.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.acd14c4dIZvGJQ I wish you luck getting help from Atomstack, they only ignored me, can't help wondering how many others they ignored.
The Atomstack's shield has a built in flaw. Because the smoke and debris is trapped inside the shield, it will ultimately degrade the laser lens and the laser's burning ability. The shield also prevents an air assist from being attached. A bit of a redesign of the shield would allow air to be blown downward inside the shield and blow the smoke and debris out of the shield area.
Hi Scott. I can confirm what you say because in fact I measured a performance drop of about 20% on the Atomstack (measured with laser power meter) after some uses. However, this also happens with other open laser engraver (a little less) especially when the focus is very close to the workpiece. This is why I suggest my users to clean the lens from time to time to bring it back to its initial efficiency. I agree with the other comments about air assist, but a "maker" can always make a hole in the screen or remove it entirely to place an air assist.
Yes it does, here is what I did, I took a picture of the side shields, drew a half circle on the bottom, saved as a dfx and cut new ones, also added an air assist, but it all comes back to the atomstack being a P.O.S. compared to the Ortur
Thanks for that video. It really feels that both have space for improvements but for the cost I don't think anyone can really complain. But that stops are a great plus, I was running in panic to cut the power from my atomastack once I realized I pressed the move in keyboard too many times and it was going to try and move over the limits. Then again the way you adjust height on ortur really looks like a pain, in the atomstack is not ideal but you can just replace the 2 screws with butterfly screws and have easy no tools adjustment in seconds.
You are right about the screws ... the problem is not so much the needs of Allen key as the fact that after a some times you unscrew and re-screw them the thread is worn. I wrote my suggestions to Atomstack, I hope they will apply these improvements for the next versions
so the atomstack does have limit switches to stop the laser from going to far? that could be the deciding factor for me. I'm still concerned about ordering from china though
Totem S 40W / NEJE Master 2S Max / Atomstack A5 Pro / Ortur Laser Master 2 pro I found the four. would like to know which one of the favorites is and which one is best for small knives, normal kitchen knives, silver key rings, zippo, silver engraved bracelet for children. thank you in advance for the help and information I will get. nice day
HI,Futurelaugh, Nice to meet you. I think your idea is very good. Can you pay attention to my homepage?We also have good quality laser machine equipment, if you have any questions about the laser.machine, please feel free to consult.I am honored to meet you here, and I hope we can work hard together!
Hello, there! You made a very nice video here! As far as engraving speeds, which one is faster, given the fact that atomstack has an 8bit mainboard and ortur upgraded to 32bit? Does this difference have any impact on the quality+engraving speed of the lasers? Thank You!
Hi 8 or 32 bit does not make too much difference in engraving speed (which is limited more by the speed of the motors, than by that of the control board). The reasons to prefer a machine with 32-bit controller is that this is more open to improvements and firmware updates (the 8-bit one is at the limit of its possibilities as far as future developments are concerned). The reason for preferring the 8-bit one is that it uses standard grbl, while Ortur on its 32-bit controller is using a custom grbl that they don't release the source code (however it is well done and without any particular bugs).
HI,Andrei Costin Muresan, Nice to meet you. I think your idea is very good. Can you pay attention to my homepage?We also have good quality laser machine equipment, if you have any questions about the laser.machine, please feel free to consult.I am honored to meet you here, and I hope we can work hard together!
you prolly dont give a damn but does anybody know a tool to log back into an Instagram account?? I stupidly forgot the account password. I love any tricks you can offer me.
@Creed Dax I really appreciate your reply. I found the site on google and im trying it out atm. I see it takes quite some time so I will reply here later when my account password hopefully is recovered.
Usually atomstack and ortur arrive provided with some samples of materials for testing, including a 2mm thick piece of acrylic, so I suppose it is possible. Honestly, I've never tried it, but if you need it tomorrow I can give you a feedback.
The main difference is on laser module. The square-shaped spot of the new A5 Pro give higher energy density and corrects the divergence problem that most common lasers module currently have (you can know more about this effect if you watch my "Laser Engraving Myths and Truth " video). I'm doing some measurements and some benchmarks to verify the performance increase in real use situations (cut, engrave...). Time a couple of days and I should be able to edit a video with these results, but it looks promising. Regarding the price I think it is difficult to find something at 117 $ as you say: the average price for a 20W 40x40 laser engraver is near 270$
Edit: be careful with Atomstack, they tend NOT to provide technical assistance, so if you happen to have a machine that is not perfect, there is serious trouble
Thanks for the tutorial ----- the shielding cage around the laser made me prefer the Atomstack (bought for less than 200 €) , which despite being spartan (it does not have limit switches and not even the on / off switch) is robust and comes already partially assembled, but the fact that they do not provide technical assistance suggests that they are a firm not to be recommended
HI,bryanS, Nice to meet you. I think your idea is very good. Can you pay attention to my homepage?We also have good quality laser machine equipment, if you have any questions about the laser.machine, please feel free to consult.I am honored to meet you here, and I hope we can work hard together!
My Atomstack A5 pro is the best. My ortut didn't last very long. I'm glad I got the Atomstack and now also a NEJE 40w. Very good machines.
I have the atomstack, pure junk, wish I had bought the Ortur. Here is why, the Ortur has 4 wheels to guide the laser, the atomstack only has 3, and you keep getting a wobble, impossible to tighten.Next if you use lightburn you have to eyeball the framing no matter what keys you press you cannot get the laser light to work, next is the auto stops, the atomstack has none, the Ortur does.
Last is customer service, forget about contacting atomstack the only response you get is send videos of the problem, they will not offer any help.
My advice to anyone who reads this comment is buy the Ortur.
Hi Bob! I don't think Atomstack can be considered junk.
The machine I have had the opportunity to test is solid and works well, no wobble. You may not know it, but one of the 3 screws you speak of has an eccentric ring, which can be adjusted with the wrench (which you find supplied with the machine) to adjust the tightening.
The machine is equipped with a standard grbl firmware. I don't know the kind of issue you re talking about (i don't use lightburn) but I believe it is not a problem of the machine (maybe an issue with lightburn configuration?). However I have forwarded your message to my contact in Atomstack so they can check your issue.
@@lasergrbl I know about the eccentric, and have tightened it several times. I just ordered this to solve the problem: www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001814032210.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.acd14c4dIZvGJQ
I wish you luck getting help from Atomstack, they only ignored me, can't help wondering how many others they ignored.
The Atomstack's shield has a built in flaw.
Because the smoke and debris is trapped inside the shield, it will ultimately degrade the laser lens and the laser's burning ability.
The shield also prevents an air assist from being attached. A bit of a redesign of the shield would allow air to be blown downward inside the shield and blow the smoke and debris out of the shield area.
Hi Scott. I can confirm what you say because in fact I measured a performance drop of about 20% on the Atomstack (measured with laser power meter) after some uses.
However, this also happens with other open laser engraver (a little less) especially when the focus is very close to the workpiece.
This is why I suggest my users to clean the lens from time to time to bring it back to its initial efficiency.
I agree with the other comments about air assist, but a "maker" can always make a hole in the screen or remove it entirely to place an air assist.
@@lasergrbl that's a great opportunity to show us how to clean the lens in another video then :P
@@NikolasKarampelas yes, i'll do a lens clean tutorial when I have some time
Again, you can 3D Print an aur assist or vacuum assist for the atomstack .
Yes it does, here is what I did, I took a picture of the side shields, drew a half circle on the bottom, saved as a dfx and cut new ones, also added an air assist, but it all comes back to the atomstack being a P.O.S. compared to the Ortur
20w are enough? or should i purchase the "TWO TREES TOTEM S 40W"?
20w and 40w are only the input power
Thanks for that video. It really feels that both have space for improvements but for the cost I don't think anyone can really complain. But that stops are a great plus, I was running in panic to cut the power from my atomastack once I realized I pressed the move in keyboard too many times and it was going to try and move over the limits.
Then again the way you adjust height on ortur really looks like a pain, in the atomstack is not ideal but you can just replace the 2 screws with butterfly screws and have easy no tools adjustment in seconds.
You are right about the screws ... the problem is not so much the needs of Allen key as the fact that after a some times you unscrew and re-screw them the thread is worn.
I wrote my suggestions to Atomstack, I hope they will apply these improvements for the next versions
Or 3D Print the screw assembly on thingyverse which solves the problem.......
so the atomstack does have limit switches to stop the laser from going to far? that could be the deciding factor for me. I'm still concerned about ordering from china though
@@DougKing4416 it doesn't but you can add
@@NikolasKarampelas thank you Nikolas
Totem S 40W / NEJE Master 2S Max / Atomstack A5 Pro / Ortur Laser Master 2 pro
I found the four. would like to know which one of the favorites is and which one is best for small knives, normal kitchen knives, silver key rings, zippo, silver engraved bracelet for children. thank you in advance for the help and information I will get. nice day
None of them is suggested for metal engraving. You need a fiber laser
I do not speak english; what were your conclusions?
Hello how to cut mirror plexiglass ?
It seems if they are both identical, the Atomstack seems better because of the laser shielding convenience and lower price.
HI,Futurelaugh, Nice to meet you. I think your idea is very good. Can you pay attention to my homepage?We also have good quality laser machine equipment, if you have any questions about the laser.machine, please feel free to consult.I am honored to meet you here, and I hope we can work hard together!
The limit switches come in handy for rookies.
Dove posso trovare quello strumento per misurare la potenza ottica
del laser?
Hello, there!
You made a very nice video here!
As far as engraving speeds, which one is faster, given the fact that atomstack has an 8bit mainboard and ortur upgraded to 32bit? Does this difference have any impact on the quality+engraving speed of the lasers?
Thank You!
Hi
8 or 32 bit does not make too much difference in engraving speed (which is limited more by the speed of the motors, than by that of the control board).
The reasons to prefer a machine with 32-bit controller is that this is more open to improvements and firmware updates (the 8-bit one is at the limit of its possibilities as far as future developments are concerned).
The reason for preferring the 8-bit one is that it uses standard grbl, while Ortur on its 32-bit controller is using a custom grbl that they don't release the source code (however it is well done and without any particular bugs).
HI,Andrei Costin Muresan, Nice to meet you. I think your idea is very good. Can you pay attention to my homepage?We also have good quality laser machine equipment, if you have any questions about the laser.machine, please feel free to consult.I am honored to meet you here, and I hope we can work hard together!
you prolly dont give a damn but does anybody know a tool to log back into an Instagram account??
I stupidly forgot the account password. I love any tricks you can offer me.
@Isaiah Musa instablaster ;)
@Creed Dax I really appreciate your reply. I found the site on google and im trying it out atm.
I see it takes quite some time so I will reply here later when my account password hopefully is recovered.
Does it works for cut acrylic? Example cutting the contour of acrylic letters for a desing?
Usually atomstack and ortur arrive provided with some samples of materials for testing, including a 2mm thick piece of acrylic, so I suppose it is possible.
Honestly, I've never tried it, but if you need it tomorrow I can give you a feedback.
@@lasergrbl please...
@@lasergrbl tried yet?
where is the link for their 2021 model?? this one only shows the older model
I reply, but my answer was deleted. If you look at my A5 Pro review I put a link in description
ruclips.net/video/UKGKnOxY3ac/видео.html
Have you tested the 40w version of the Atomstack?
ruclips.net/video/UKGKnOxY3ac/видео.html
Thanks for the great video, I am waiting on my atomstack a5 pro, would like to see your opinion on this...
Here is my review of the new model: ruclips.net/video/UKGKnOxY3ac/видео.html
@@lasergrbl many thanks
What info do you have on the 2021 model? and why are the prices ranging from $117 to almost $300 for what appears to be the same 20 watt model?
The main difference is on laser module. The square-shaped spot of the new A5 Pro give higher energy density and corrects the divergence problem that most common lasers module currently have (you can know more about this effect if you watch my "Laser Engraving Myths and Truth
" video).
I'm doing some measurements and some benchmarks to verify the performance increase in real use situations (cut, engrave...). Time a couple of days and I should be able to edit a video with these results, but it looks promising.
Regarding the price I think it is difficult to find something at 117 $ as you say: the average price for a 20W 40x40 laser engraver is near 270$
Here is my review of the new model: ruclips.net/video/UKGKnOxY3ac/видео.html
can someone tell me if i can cut 5 mm polyethylene with 5w lasers?
Hello. Are those machines able to cut 4mm wood ?
Plywood yes. Hard wood i think no
😢subtitulada en español sería excelente
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Non riesco ad ascoltare questo Inglese.
fa così schifo? ahahaha
@@lasergrbl sono abituato ad ascoltare video in Inglese.
Tranquillo, non riuscirei ad ascoltare neppure me stesso. 🤣