The Core of Storytelling
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- Опубликовано: 28 дек 2020
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The contained thriller is one of my favorite film genres. I enjoy watching writers create a puzzle and work through the limitations of a few character and a single location. Today I take a look at how to write a compelling contained thriller.
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Tyler, you need to quit giving people advice and start writing a screenplay. Why should I listen to you ?
Sometimes the biggest obstacle to writing is being trapped in over analyzing what a story or film is about rather than letting characters evolve and letting them inform you of what the themes are. But then again, there's more than one way to write a script.
Thanks for your perspective! Sometimes I do get all twisted up about theme/beliefs and forget to listen to what the characters acutally have to say.
Ite beneficial to analyze to understand what happens to the character and their current state of mind to guide you through their journey. But it ignore this, you gotta write. Just write and ignore the over analysing. Then when you get to rewriting the over analysis makes you understand the character and choose if the narrative you have is good for em
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Tyler, please post a video on How to Write a good Logline and Synopsis.
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PLEASE!!!
I second this, or four this?
Fifth this
studio binder does an article on this...www.studiobinder.com/blog/write-compelling-logline-examples/
I love that you don’t bog down your videos with all the traditional bag of writing advice. It can be too much to remember and makes writing seem like an overwhelming task.
It's almost like Stories are "Showing" while Philosophical Theory is just "Telling"
Tell to show
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I'd like you to make a video on:
-How to create a good villain
-How to write a dark story
I was struggling with this. Then I figure it out. Write a character like you would for a hero but instead of saving. He/she kills. Villains are heroes (from their perspective) that are misunderstood and achieve goals in ways that go against the morality of heroes. Tyler spoke about this in his story series with joker and batman
to write a good villain it must be a cat and mouse chase constantly.they are always getting steps ahead of each other and always making each other question their decisions.and they can learn from each other and have opposite mindsets.like one might be aggressive and the others passive.
to write a dark story,it must tackle themes not everyone enjoys but done well.i can give an example of dealing with death,you can exaggerate it and make it effect the main character badly.just make sure when doing a dark story that it isn't for the sake of being dark but is teaching a lesson
Creating a good villain is about creating a worthy villain and a significant hero. If you show how great your hero is for the setup (10-15 minutes) of the script, then you show your villain holding his own or getting one over on your hero, it frames him in a powerful way.
@@potatomanboooi3105 so basically death note?
If I got this right, in short: the core of storytelling is the character's beliefs being tested by external plot points.
Thank you for this video. :)
Keep it up bruh, your channel helped me becoming a better storyteller. A better writer.
Hey man!... I am officially writing my first full film.... Nice journey 😌
THANK YOU!!! This might be the most important screenwriting video I've watched this year! I've struggled with plot vs. character when structuring my first couple of features. The first was a book adaptation and the second (currently writing) is a historical period piece "inspired by" true events, so I already have certain plot points I have to hit. This idea being broken down has really helped me understand how I might marry the true story with the fictional point of view of my protagonist in this historical piece.
I would love to see you cover an ancient story, like a story in the Bible or an ancient Greek play just to get your take on it.
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@lilmil thats right but the bad ones are mostly older ones too
Thank you for this video - seems like such a simple concept, but it made me realize that I've been building my stories in a really stilted, timeline-focused manner (hit these plot points at roughly this point in this typical three act structure etc) and losing track of the core message. If nothing else it's really gotten my creativity fired up now as I'm reflecting on what the core message of my latest story is and how that belief is being challenged in the characters.
Not even a screenplay writer, just traditional fiction stuff, but your videos are a godsend for the process of storytelling in and of itself. Well done, thanks again.
clear, and direct. love it.
Been watching ur videos for a week now they are really helpful keep doing this and thank you
This helps... SO MUCH. I've been writing blind for so long. Thank you for spelling it out!!!
Love this! Great to always remember why you are writing this story and get some background on the science of it.
Brilliant! Core idea before all structures!
This has been so useful and simplified, for some reason I have a tendency to over complicated things. Btw if you have a quite prolific mind with a divergent bent, how do you work through the chaos of ideas of a scene, for e.g. I get like 3/5 ideas for a single scene and then it gets all confusing!
This is Perfection. Finally it clicked in my mind. Now, I can see it. Thanks so much for this. I'll definitely be taking your lessons soon✨ no doubt. 💯
Tyler, thank you for the video ♥️
Tyler could cover how to write tone in your stories. I write and I can't tell myself whether its a dark tone or a comedic tone.
yes to this topic
Great video!! Keep up the good work brother!! Love your channel
Awesome explanation! Thank you for this!
Awesome as always!
can you talk about soul, i feel like it had perfect structure and focused on one sole thing like you advise.
Needed this Tyler!
Brilliant, just brilliant.
There needs to be more videos/lessons on the elusive topic of tone. Especially in a screenplay.
Thanks Tyler. You cleared my mind and I thus know how to move on. Thanks again.
You are very talented! Great content, keep up the good work!
Love you, Tyler!
thanks for the epic videos bro really helping me with my screen play
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OVER 9000!
Tyler.please make a video on designing principle ! In john turby's book.
Very nicely summarized
Thanks for this, very helpful!
You are such a good teacher. I have been to film school but you are a better teacher. Could you please recommend a youtube channel for direction as well thank you.
for direction, studiobinder.
for editing, Thomas flight, this guy edits.
Amazing stuff!!!
Thanks, Tyler!
great love it
Like before watching 🔥🔥
Hey Tyler! Can you do a video about organic story? Break it in a bit depth.
Look up: RUclips.com/Script Tip: How To Write A Logline . The video takes only 02:07 min and is very precise and informative about what's a good "Logline".
I love you, man.
Great video!
Tyler, should example, 13 characters be planned basic outlining first needs to be readily set into a basic idea to get a key foundation making philosophical externally possibly in details? By clearly explaining the relationship in characters that are set like you want it, should I accept the fact I'm creating a map to simplify the details of the plot of understanding 3 acts of possible storytelling helps giving its core? If so, does that mostly explain organically about the characters outcome or instead relating the core of storytelling?
Tyler knows what’s up.
Hats off.
Dude why have you not written a book on writing? I'd pre-order it right now
Wow. Excellent video. This is a very insightful and helpful look at the core of story. A thought: I wonder if we might add "capability" to "belief" as a tandem core element that can be challenged in stories. In many stories, the central character struggles not because of a flawed or inadequate philosophical belief but because the character has a lack of capability (in the form of knowledge/skill/strength/resources/power/etc.) to overcome the challenge. For instance, in many action-oriented stories, the character perseveres and ultimately triumphs because they REFUSE to give up a cherished belief. In such cases, we can certainly say that the philosophical belief is tested, but I’m not sure it’s the sole or even most evident/decisive factor at play; the most important thing is how the character actively responds to the challenge. In such a story, I don't think the main lesson is simply, "Stick to your beliefs." I think the main lesson is, "When you're faced with *this* kind of situation, do *this*." There's always a dynamic interplay between capabilities and beliefs, and I don't think we can say that one is more important than the other-only that one is sometimes more at issue or more "in focus" than the other. Stories can share practical lessons (about “what to do/how to do it”) as much as they can share philosophical lessons (about “what to believe/what's true”). At least, that's my initial take. Thoughts?
Then it just doesn’t have a strong philosophical conflict and it isn’t as good a story as it could be. The best story has all three, ideally.
I think I have some interesting philosophical conflicts but the thing is that I don't know how to tell them in an interesting way
So a story is a simulation of a philosophical situation in a specific setting. Alliteration unintended.
I’m so confused, these videos are so helpful and insightful and yet i took one look at this guys letterboxd and-
Taxi Driver - 2 Stars (Joker got 3 Stars)
There Will Be Blood - 1 Star
Back To The Future - 2 Stars
Eternal Sunshine - 2 and a half Stars
2001 - 3 Stars
Goodfellas - 3 Stars
One Flew Over The Cuckoos Nest - 3 Stars
Inception - 3 and a half stars
Shawshank - 3 and a half stars
Dr Strangelove - 2 Stars
Blade Runner - Half a star
I mean of course opinions are entirely subjective and who am i to judge another persons film taste but sheesh you’d think this really informative guy appreciated some of the greatest films of all time lol
Thanks. Right perspective. Difficult/hard to execute.
amazing
So am i correct to assume that when people say work on ur character development, the fundamental idea behind it is to make their philosophical conflicts better?
people don't realise but you are taught the basics of writing in school.like character motivation,plot structure and teaching a lesson
Locked in.
I'm really struggling with exposition, especially when I'm trying to write about something in the past and then coming back to present.
If you need help with plot exposition, try watching the matrix or inception. As for flashbacks, try checking out this series called lost.
@@akhilnair1137 thanks, yeah I definitely will, its just i realistically wanted a big part of act 1 set in the 70s and the rest in present, and alot of the stuff in the present people already know but the character doesn't.
@@r.a.mpictures then you should watch the godfather 2. The story is devided into a man and his father's life taking place in different time periods.
@@oscarwilde5473 I really appreciate that, I'll definitely check it out.
Watch "you were never really here" it just shows some little important moments and you understand everything without a word
Gold
the core of storytelling is that it is a form of art.you need to use it to tell a story.money is second thoughts to the story
Oh damn ive never been this early shdhshshs Hi Tyler!!
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Yes! Exactly! If the theme of the story is not also on the wavelength of the internal struggle of the main character, the story is basically about nothing.
That's why the Star Wars prequel trilogy works as a story and the sequel trilogy doesn't. One is the internal struggle of good vs evil within one character whose decisions will ultimately shape the destiny of the galaxy. And every episode plays into that theme. While the other has conflicting themes in each episode. Therefore the prequel trilogy is technically the better story. And the sequel trilogy at times feels like a series of video game fetch quests.
Good stories are what make us understand our place in the universe. that is why movies with strong overarching themes like Rocky, The Godfather, Oldby affect us on a deeper level than movies like Jack McHero and the Hunt for the Mcguffin.
Woah, you’re completely wrong here. The Prequels don’t work because they do not follow any of this. None of the characters in the Prequels have any depth or substance to them so they don’t have beliefs. The Prequels are just shallow CGI action with no depth.
The Sequel Trilogy works really well because it’s far more complex and deep with it’s themes and characters with Rey and Kylo and their own internal struggles with their core beliefs. The Sequels focus far more on the deeper psychology of the characters. Look at Luke, Rey and Kylo Ren in the Sequels, especially TLJ and TROS.
@@ReySkywalker2 Thanks for proving my point. In Episode 7 Kylo starts out as a bad guy who devotes himself to Snoke when he kills his father. At the end of Episode 8 he is driven by individual goals when he kills his master. In Episode 9 his arc is all about redemption. The whole story, while clever at times, is very inconsistent.
(I'm using Kylo as an example because the protagonist Rey does not go through a dramatic change in character, except that she picks a new name in the end.)
Whereas Anikan in Episode 1 is essentially a good kid who is attached to his mom. In Episode 2 he looses his mom. In Episode 3 his fear of loss drives him to the dark side. It's a simple but a very powerful arc.
So you're right. The sequel trilogy is more complex and therfore divided audiences. It's a series of well crafted films with inconsistent themes in each episode. Whereas the prequel trilogy basically follows single basic themes. The rise and fall of Anikan Skywalker; lust for power vs serenity and peace; light vs darkness; hate vs love; good vs evil. It's simple but more effective as far as story goes.
Now one can argue about wether characters like Admiral Holdo and Rey Skwalker have deeper psychology than characters like Anikan Skywalker and Count Dooku. But I'm not here to discuss Star Wars. I'm just using Star Wars as an example to make my point. It can be made with any other movie.
When you compare any other film, where the film's theme aligns with the protagonists arc, with another film where the film has multiple themes, or none excistant themes, or is convuluted with opposing themes, the one story will work and the other simply does not.
Bottom line: a basic concept with a concistant theme, that reflects the characters emotional journey makes for the better story. And when a story exceeds the plot, it makes for a film that is more coherent in and of itself.
@@ReySkywalker2 okay sequels are dog . you're probably like 9 and dont understand what makes a good story. The sequels are so inconsistent and the pacing is just wack, the climax doesn't even make sense. Like there was zero foreshadowing up until then. "Oh hey palpatine is still alive, surpise!". The sequels just banked on nostalgia to get people to buy tickets.
@@kristinlovelace3422 Ok, sequels are actually great. I bet you hate 8 and 9 because you don’t understand good storytelling. I have a degree in storytelling and English literature. Pal. The Sequels are incredibly consistent and the pacing is great. The climax makes complete sense and is a beautiful way of completing the complex and profound arcs of Rey and Kylo Ren.
The Sequels don’t bank on nostalgia at all: that’s the Prequels. The Sequels actually have a objectively good story and extremely complex, nuanced and profound characters and character arcs. You can’t understand this, thats allz
By the way, the link in the description takes me to a page where it says "i can help you write 5,20 maybe even 15 pages a day"
Why does it say 20?
That must be an error.
This is always like that? Because I look to the Godzilla japanese movies, and godzilla is the main character, they don't spend much time in humans, and the monster doesn't have any beliefs, he just destroy everything.
Tyler brother, I want to make foreground, middle and background all relevent. I want to convey a lot of information on one particular scene. I mean I want to add details on every scene. But I am struggling to do that. So how should I do that ??
This video does a good job of explaining the theory. The theory might be easier to understand if the video told a story.
I sort of disagree. Yes you talk about the core of what you call a 'dramatic story' Well, but the core of story itself is entertainment, not philosophy. Yesterday I watched the Grand Budapest Hotel and it was a good movie. Now at a stretch you could say it was looking at kindness, but really there is little moral conflict, but it is STILL a good story.
You need to differentiate between the specific type of story your teaching (you could call it dramatic storytelling but I have also watched Dunkirk recently and it is very dramatic and has little philosophical conflict either) and story in general.
But apart from that great video, keep it up!
Stories have moved away from that to a degree, but entertainment is not the reason stories came into existence.
If you look at any old story from ancient times there is almost always a message, moral or belief at the heart of it.Fairy tales were created to convey (What were percieved as) truths. History, even, is the study of what we can learn from the stories of ancient times of real people.
Entertainment is not the primary function of stories. Stories require entertainment to work, but the reason stories need to be entertaining is so that the ideas they convey can stick in our mind. If you are not entertained by a story it is unlikely to stick with you. Much like the point of a car is not the wheels, even if a car may need wheels to get anywhere.
As entertainment became more accessible, people expected entertainment to become the main focus. Hollywood is a business and will craft whatever sells, however, this is, again, not why stories were invented.On a deeper level, it is necessary for a story to have a deeper message in order for it to work.
To counter your examples; you can infer meaning from these stories. You even inferred that Grand Budapest was about kindness. Even if the moral is not complex, it is still there and can be read into. Dunkirk is historical fiction, the purpose is less conveying a message and more to do with depicting an event in history.
Well it does follow the mispaired Gustave and Zero.. it isn't philosophical but the characters do have internal conflicts.. and i do agree Dunkirk isn't about the characters it's more about the event surrounding the soldiers. Almost every good mainstream film has an internal conflict, maybe not as deep but it exists.. and Tenet is a bad instance where the dramatic conflict is sacrificed for long setpieces which made the characters look like caricatures from a cancelled Bond film.
@@RR-ie8ph lol I was just gonna bring Tenet up. An excellent example of a movie that is extremely entertaining and very good and yet it has no philosophical conflict. It's more concerned with exploring time and concepts of time than moral lessons.
@@jessegoonerage3999 good point. I guess entertainment isn't the core of story either, but I still don't think it is a philosophical conflict.
As you said Dunkirk is more concerned with history, but it's still a story, and a good and dramatic one at that.
I guess what I was trying to say is that the core of FILMS is entertainment, which is perhaps not the only 'core' of film, but definitely a big one. A movie does not need philosophical conflict to be good. Its much easier to make a good movie if you do have a philosophical conflict but it isn't needed (as we have already seen).
However entertainment is always needed in a movie. Always. So when it comes to movies I'd say entertainment is more important
@@benjaminread5287 Nuh Nuh.. Nolan tried too hard to fit in a bonding between Niel and the protagonist.. movie was supposed to be the closest thing Nolan ever came to making a mainstream action adventure.. but the convoluted concept made the dramatic part look cringy due to the lack of any character development.. maybe you'll come to notice it in a 2nd or 3rd viewing.
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Man i love your videos but somehow the white background makes it tiring for the eye, why don't you try using gel paper to make your videos more visually appealing?
Basically a story is a roundabout way of saying an 'useful' thing.
What is philosophical conflict?
Many stories are about hunting. Either a chase or a bank robbery, the concepts are repeated.
you can put your own twist that subverts the expectations
All stories are about one story.
Right? :D
Should we only have one philosophical conflict in the movie or not?
One is quite enough if you really explore and stratch it within your theme
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Will you please read our short scripts bro.
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Could you be more specific Tyler?
This is why Rey from Star Wars is one of the greatest characters. She has so much depth and complexity to her. She has actual meaningful and realistic psychology to her. She holds the core belief of self worthlessness, which is constantly in conflict with the plot practically forcing her into the role of the hero.
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Duh, obviously it's drama for the sake of drama and explosions for the sake of money!
Stories exist primarily as entertainment. It doesn't matter what it is. It has to be entertaining first, otherwise...
that's really good advice for people who want to write. "just entertain" - it's so easy. Why are we still watching all of those videos?!
But then where does that entertainment come from? I think what Tyler is saying is that a large percentage of 'being entertained' stems from this 'philosophical core'. But maybe we should define what counts as 'entertaining' first, as it could be anything from two guys running away from an explosion to lying in bed and still thinking about the movie you just saw (because of its philosophical core).
@@karim0302 I tend to disagree. He's welcome to his opinion of course.
@@karim0302 that's the point. "entertaining" is a very vague term. A good story with engaging conflicts can be entertaining. That's why we're here to learn. And that's why even superhero movies build their fights around belief systems. well, most of them. the good ones.
@@BigMek667 Well, I really liked Harmon's story circle and his elements of story. Those are really useful. This is more of his personal opinion than advice and I'm free to watch it, and disagree with it.
If the story is not entertaining, I will not read it, regardless of its good philosophy. Whereas, an entertaining story can have the most banal retread of the oldest tropes and I'll read it multiple times.
This monologue could be trimmed down to about 3 minutes after removing the repetition.
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THIS IS JUST YOUR OPINION. WHY DID THE CHICKEN CROSS THE ROAD? TO GET TO THE OTHER SIDE. WHERE IS THE "PHIOLOSPHICAL CONFLICT?". ITS JUST WHAT WE MAKE OF IT.
Dude, are u really using an old joke to compare with philosofical conflict within an good story? Why??