Why I'd choose the Canon Pro1000 over the Canon Pro300- Fotospeed | Paper for Fine Art & Photography

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  • Опубликовано: 25 ноя 2024

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  • @davidpavlich8939
    @davidpavlich8939 3 месяца назад +1

    I just bought a 1000 and it's terrific! I not only leave it on, i have it plugged into a UPS so even if the power goes out, it won't shut off. And if I don't use it, for a couple of days, I print a 4x6 and actually shrink the photo smaller so the amount of ink is quite small. I 've printed several 16x24s in color and B&W. Great results!

  • @mistere8859
    @mistere8859 2 года назад +15

    Thanks for the video Tim, although I'm having trouble finding that the ink for the 300 is twice that of the 1000. Like everyone else. for me there is a degree of agonizing over the Epson p700, Canon pro-300, Epson p90 or Canon pro-1000(comparing apples to oranges to a degree, but why don't they just put 80ml cartridges in all 4 just to make the ink use comparison easier! And wouldn't their production costs be less if they just produced 1 size cartridge for these two printers?). I'm not finding the 300 ink to be twice as much as the 1000(if I understood you correctly). Since you think IQ is about the same I think that the big difference between the two and the way to make a decision more simple is to decide by 1) cost of ink and 2) ability to use roll paper(I know there are other differences but these seem to be the largest-along with factoring in the initial cost.) I put together a little chart of the cost of ink for each printer so you can compare apples to apples. I used Adorama in the US(I assume that UK and other countries may have different prices, but I would expect them to be somewhat similar relative to each other across the globe). I came up with these numbers...
    printer cartridge size cost cost p/.ml cost p/ 80ml
    Epson p700 25ml $38.00 $1.52 $121.60
    Epson p900 50 ml $44.00 $0.88 $70.40
    Canon Pro-300 14.5 ml $13.00 $0.89 $71.20
    Canon Pro-1000 80 ml $60.00 $0.75 $60.00
    If my numbers are correct then the p700, because of it's high cost for ink should be out of the question unless you want a printer with the ability to use rolled paper(or you're going to rarely use it). The roller is included but if you print a lot, any savings over the P900 will be eaten up over a period of time by the higher cost of ink.
    That leaves the P900, Pro-300, Pro-1000.... If you want rolled paper(and 50 inches isn't long enough) then it's the p900....
    The pro-300 ink cost is a little more(and you have to change ink more often), but with the pro-1000, there is more waste through the maintenance process of keeping the jets from clogging(which might more than make up the price difference between the two).... So I think that the difference between the pro-300 and pro-1000 isn't the cost of the ink, but more about how much you will use it(and if you can use a smaller paper) and whether you can effectively control the amount of ink that can be waisted in the pro-1000 through it's automatic cleaning process.....
    It appears to me that unless you will be using the printer a lot, the pro-300 or Epson p900 are the printers for people who are not going to be doing a lot of printing... and the Pro-1000, as you said is for someone who is going to use it a lot!........ Does this make sense to you?...

    • @mistere8859
      @mistere8859 2 года назад

      and I thought I should add that the Canon pro-300 is now on sale at Adorame/BHPhoto for $849 and the Epson p900 for $1049(with the $200 rebate) and the Epson P700 is $599 at Adorama(with the $200 rebate)... I'm leaning towards the Epson p900 which is $200 more than the Pro-300, ink is a little less than a dollar per mm less expensive and you have the option of purchasing the adapter for roll paper.....

    • @anmic3590
      @anmic3590 7 месяцев назад

      Hi! I know that it is not a fine art printer, but what about the ET-8550/L8180 for people that are not printing too often? Would this printer offer quality prints to be sold? Thank you so much!

    • @jank85
      @jank85 4 месяца назад

      Canon are a bunch of rich greedy shiptars, if that maybe answers your question

  • @LordThrain
    @LordThrain Год назад +1

    I've been going back and forth in my head for 3 months over this decision.
    😅
    Thanks for confirming my gut opinion! PRO-1000 is where I'm putting my money 💰!

  • @drdufault
    @drdufault Год назад +4

    After going back and forth b/n getting a Pro-300 or Pro-1000, I have to say that this video made it clear which printer I should get: Pro-300. As I would really, really like the ability to make the larger prints, I know that I will _not_ be using the printer on a regular basis, and based upon your comments, and the comments contained herein, ink consumption of a seldomly used Pro-1000 would soon become economically unviable for me. So... I'm going with the Pro-300 for the time being. Thanks for this vid!

    • @Neil-Aspinall
      @Neil-Aspinall Год назад

      Look at the Pro 2100 of the Pro 4100

    • @jasonk8311
      @jasonk8311 Год назад

      Does the 300 not have the cleaning cycles?

  • @CareyP
    @CareyP 9 месяцев назад

    My dilemma is I am new to printing my pics and don't know how often I'll be doing so! The cost isn't that big a difference and the amount of ink you get with the 1000 and the fact of the larger size makes it well worth it. however the maintenance runs of the 1000 may kill the ink much faster if not in use. From the information I have gotten doesn't seem that lack of use isn't a problem for the 300.

  • @rolandoochoajr.4895
    @rolandoochoajr.4895 2 года назад +3

    I love my Canon Pro-1000, It's anyway to print larger than 17x22

    • @FotospeedUK
      @FotospeedUK  2 года назад +1

      Hi Rolando, I believe with the latest firmware update you can print up to 52 inchs. The down side is there isn't a roll holder for the Pro1000. Tim

  • @nickathos7428
    @nickathos7428 2 года назад +2

    I had the pro 1000 is 2017 it was such a beast except for the fact the cleaning cycles happened everytime i turned it on i wasted so much ink. I was printing roughly 1 to 2 days a week

    • @FotospeedUK
      @FotospeedUK  2 года назад +1

      Hi Nick, that is one of the problems with the printer. It likes to be used. Tim

    • @TheNucklehed
      @TheNucklehed 2 года назад

      As Tim says, it's also recommended that you don't turn it off completely, but let it go to sleep. Then it's far less likely to use ink to do a head nozzle check when you start it up. That's one of the first thing it does if you've switched it off completely and it'll use about 4ml of ink each nozzle check. In sleep, it uses hardly any power and keeps your system primed and ready, fewer nozzle checks required.

  • @mrca2004
    @mrca2004 Год назад

    It's the same on my epson printers in a printer cost v operating expense cost analysis. My 8 yr old 3880 won't die and the ink carts are about twice as expensive per ml as those in the p7000. Plus I am able to use roll paper on the larger printer and get more images per roll than wasting cropping off fixed size sheets. Buying 3 when epson has the buy 2 get one free reduces my roll cost even further. I keep the 3880 on matt since it doesn't have the dmax or gamut and makes great matt prints and the 7000 for photo black ink sparing the need for wasted ink during change to and from photo/mat black inks.

  • @j0rzeh
    @j0rzeh 3 года назад +5

    Thank you for your video Tim, I recently have purchased a Pro 1000, I recently bought some Fotospeed Smooth Pearl 290gsm, I was wondering what profile you would recommend on the Pro 1000 for printing out wedding photo's in A2?. Keep up the great videos.

    • @FotospeedUK
      @FotospeedUK  3 года назад +2

      Hi, I would use the Photo Smooth Pearl a great paper for weddings and the Smooth Pearl with the paper. I used to use the Platinum Gloss Art Fibre and Platinum Etching paper when I used to shoot wedding both worked really well. Please feel free to give me a call if you'd like talk through the options. Tim

  • @andreamaci9411
    @andreamaci9411 Год назад

    I finally found someone competent on youtube who talks about Canon printers !!! Thanks Tim. I own one and I am satisfied even if I only print black and white photographs. I recently bought a 17" roll and I would like to make prints in my favorite 1x1 format, but I can't get 17"x17" images printed, How do I set the custom paper size in the printer settings? Thanks Tim

  • @yvanbarbaix
    @yvanbarbaix 2 года назад +1

    I guess Ink costs will only be lower when you print almost daily. If you are more of an intermitted user (heavy usage for a few days and then days or two weeks no use at all), so much of your ink is trashed that the price goes up significantly. I have not found any reports about the pro 300, but my guess is that it will do much better at that. Otherwise the small ink tanks would be rubbish. So if you use it in an intermitted scenario, the Pro 300 might be your better choice. Or an Epson P900.

    • @FotospeedUK
      @FotospeedUK  2 года назад

      I agree if you are only printing a few times a a month then the Pro300 maybe the better choice. The Pro1000 does like to be used. Tim

  • @Booyamakashi
    @Booyamakashi 2 года назад +8

    5ml every turn on/off? this is ridicolous.

    • @bigchimpin4215
      @bigchimpin4215 11 месяцев назад

      A studio or professional photographer (who offers prints) isn’t turning it off… this is a non problem for someone who actually uses their printer.

  • @AnOpticalView
    @AnOpticalView 2 года назад +2

    Anyone who does not pay for their own inks (in this case Tim does not as Fotospeed does!) would choose the Pro 1000 over the 300. I had a Pro 1000 costs a fortune for ink as it executes a head clean all the time. The 300 however has tiny ink cartridges. The £500 worth of ink that comes with the Pro 1000 mostly primes the printer (I got 30 A3 prints before most inks needed replacing (another £500!)). The Pro 1000 also has (had?) a design fault causing a fatal breakdown (mine did) so went to the public dump at 2 years old! Not recommended from a Pro 1000 user. The ink price per ml are ridiculous as the Pro 1000 will use most of your inks cleaning itself whatever you do!!! A great printer if you print every week only.

    • @FotospeedUK
      @FotospeedUK  2 года назад

      Hi Ian, sorry to hear your problems with your Pro1000s. I agree that Pro-1000 is a print that likes to be used. I use mine almost everyday get really good ink usage out of it. Tim

    • @bartez8018
      @bartez8018 Год назад

      so which printer would you recommend for printing everyday?

    • @levrac68
      @levrac68 11 месяцев назад

      @@bartez8018 It seems the overwhelming majority say the 1000. Sporadic usage would be better with the 300. JMHO from all the research I've done over the last 10k hours.

  • @srennielsen2773
    @srennielsen2773 2 года назад +3

    Thanks for the informative video! I have a couple of questions (to anyone with the experience really), does the pro-1000 use 4-5 ml every time it turns on, and then an additional 4-5 ml every time it turns off (8-10 ml for every on/off cycle)? Also I assume it´s 4-5 ml total ink (4-5 ml ink out of the total 960 ml ink in the system (12*80 ml)) and not 4-5 ml out of each cartridge- is this correct?
    Also, I´ve read that the pro-300 also have the anti-clogging maintenance program/mechanism- is the ink consumption for the pro-300 during maintenance comparable to that of the pro-1000?
    I apologize for the long questions, I hope they make sense:S

    • @FotospeedUK
      @FotospeedUK  2 года назад +4

      Hi and thank you for your comments, the Pro1000 will use roughly 4-5ml on start up and shut down. I normally say to leave the printer on and use it a lot, the 4-5ml is in total and not per cartridge. As I understand the Pro-300 isn't as bad but will still use a little ink turning on and off. They both use the same amount of ink to print a A3 sheet around 1.5ml. The ink does cost more on the Pro-300 per cartridge. Tim

    • @srennielsen2773
      @srennielsen2773 2 года назад +3

      @@FotospeedUK Thank you for your fast reply! I´m trying to decide based on the fact that i´m probably not going to print very frequently. Initially, the pro-1000 was the most appealing due to the lower ink cost (and more initial value from ink that comes with the printer), but as i´m probably not going to print that often, the ink loss from turning on/off (or even the lesser frequent maintenance if the printer is kept "on") might balance out the economic gain from getting the Pro-1000. But I´m still debating with myself, as I like the idea of printing A2 or even bigger panos some time in the future, but that´s something I have to decide for myself^_^. In any case, thank you again for the reply, your help is much appreciated!

    • @cb9831
      @cb9831 2 года назад

      @@srennielsen2773 Hi - I'm Colby ! I am at the same stage as you were - regarding the 1000 & the 300 ! Could I ask what you decided ? As the ink is so much cheaper - per ml - for the 1000 is the difference ngligible anyway !

    • @srennielsen2773
      @srennielsen2773 2 года назад

      @@cb9831 Hi Colby, I never decided tbh, I´m still fairly new to photography and either of the two would be big financial investments for me. If i had to make the choice today, I think it would be the 1000 since it has more possibilities with large prints and if I´m going to spend a lot of money on a printer anyways, I might as well get the one that makes me the happiest 🙂 Not sure that helped. In any case, good luck with deciding and happy printing (once you get there)! :D

  • @carotherscontent
    @carotherscontent Год назад

    How many prints you think you get out of the life of the ink ?

  • @pjh2599
    @pjh2599 2 года назад +1

    You might have shot the daft guy playing the 'music'

  • @robertthrailkill1368
    @robertthrailkill1368 Год назад

    Well done comparison

  • @stefanmintsev9681
    @stefanmintsev9681 3 года назад +2

    Great video Tim! I'm on the market for a printer and I wanted to ask for advise if possible. I'm torn between the Canon Pro-1000 vs the Epson P-900. If you had to choose between the two, which one would you go for and why? Best regards

    • @FotospeedUK
      @FotospeedUK  2 года назад +1

      Hi Stefan, so sorry for the late reply. I think they are both amazing printers and I can't see a lot of difference print quality wise. The Canon is slightly cheap to run but the Epson can add a roll holder. You won't be disappointed with either. Tim

  • @janeberrisford8555
    @janeberrisford8555 3 года назад +2

    Thanks Tim, I found this helpful

    • @FotospeedUK
      @FotospeedUK  3 года назад

      Hi Jane, really glad it helped. Tim

  • @coolbuddydude1
    @coolbuddydude1 2 года назад +1

    Is there a reason for canon to replace the Pro-1000 ? Can’t think of any

    • @FotospeedUK
      @FotospeedUK  2 года назад +2

      Not at the moment, it is a great printer still. Tim

    • @coolbuddydude1
      @coolbuddydude1 2 года назад +1

      @@FotospeedUK glad just ordered one.

  • @tanertekin763
    @tanertekin763 3 года назад +1

    Great explanation and detail, thanks a lot. I have ordered the 1000 but fear that I may not print that much and loose a lot ink 😩

    • @FotospeedUK
      @FotospeedUK  2 года назад +2

      Hi Mehrdad, You should be fine if you are not using it that much turn the printer off in between print runs. Tim

    • @tanertekin763
      @tanertekin763 2 года назад +1

      @@FotospeedUK thanks for answering me 😀 so why many say keep the printer on to reduce the cleaning waste ink? 🧐

    • @JolledeWit
      @JolledeWit 2 года назад +3

      I’m fairly sure the printer will note how long it’s been turned off for and decide it needs to do a rigorous maintenance cycle using A LOT of ink, much more than it would use for a regular maintenance round. So in the end, you still end up using lots of ink, but you also risk clogging up the nozzles. At least when you keep it turned on the printer will keep the nozzles clean.

    • @AnOpticalView
      @AnOpticalView 2 года назад

      You will I am afraid.

  • @plateoshrimp9685
    @plateoshrimp9685 Год назад

    I'm not sure if ink costs have come down since this was made, but at least in the U.S., ink costs per ml for the pro-300 are not even close to double the pro-1000. Right now it's 12.99 for 1 14.4 ml tank vs 54.00 for 80 ml. so like 90 cents vs 68 cents per ml. The epson p700 is the real ink rip off. It's like 38 dollars for 25ml. The worst ink cost by far.

    • @FotospeedUK
      @FotospeedUK  Год назад

      That interesting the know and thank you ink does seem to be going up all the time. Tim

  • @trevor6483
    @trevor6483 2 года назад

    Thank you for your frank comments

  • @LumiereNoirePhotography
    @LumiereNoirePhotography 2 года назад +2

    Hello, I was wondering if you needed to put all the inks inside the printer to make it work ? If you plan to use it only for B&W for example, could you only feed it with the Black cartridges ? Or leave the colors ones empty ? Or does this block the printer ? thanks

    • @FotospeedUK
      @FotospeedUK  2 года назад +2

      Hi there, you will need to put in all the inks even if only printing black and white. The printer will still use a small amount of the colour inks when print in B&W. Tim

    • @LumiereNoirePhotography
      @LumiereNoirePhotography 2 года назад +1

      @@FotospeedUK great, thanks for the feedback

  • @TonySmithUK
    @TonySmithUK Год назад

    Great video (again), even if 'biased' towards the "big printer is economical if used a lot" 😄. I understand the need to highlight the strengths, and as you mention the various forums already indicate how firsty the Pro 1000 is. The comments to this video really help too by throwing some additional light on user experiences, which has helped a lot. Good to have choices based on use.

  • @ChrisKSP
    @ChrisKSP 2 года назад

    Can you easily replace the cleaning sponge pad?

    • @FotospeedUK
      @FotospeedUK  2 года назад

      Hi Christopher, I have to say you shouldn't need to but it would be a job for Canon if needed. Tim

  • @derekperkins7343
    @derekperkins7343 2 года назад +1

    Beware an old printer. Canon let me down by not supporting an older printer with driver software for a new computer. I had a big investment in printer and inks which are now useless.

    • @FotospeedUK
      @FotospeedUK  2 года назад

      Hi Derek, Sorry to hear that. i can confirm that the Pro1000 now comes with a 2 year warranty as standard. Canon are still saying they are not looking to replace the printer. Tim

  • @BarwickGreen
    @BarwickGreen 2 года назад +1

    I totally agree the Pro 1000 gives great images but build quality and reliability are, in my experience, terrible. I have one that complained it had no head fitted when just out of warranty. A new head didn't fix it. The second one, which I'm still using, no longer pops out the ink cartridges when you push them, instead I have to yank them out with pliers. Eventually something is going to break. Both are apparently uneconomical to repair, and the failure of the ink cartridge eject is apparently a known fault. I'll never buy another.

  • @TheJewellian
    @TheJewellian 2 года назад

    a great help but PLEASE don't use autofocus on your video camera! ....very distracting

    • @FotospeedUK
      @FotospeedUK  2 года назад

      Thank you for the feedback, we will take this on board.

  • @dudedavid522
    @dudedavid522 2 года назад +2

    ITT a guy justifies why his older expensive tech item is still good. Perhaps re-upload this and call it "Canon Pro-1000 still worth it in 2022?!" with a picture of the printer and your shocked face.
    More or less kidding, thanks for the video.

    • @FotospeedUK
      @FotospeedUK  2 года назад +1

      Thank you for your comments, I agree could have got either way on the thumb. Tim