Converting A Garage From On-Grid To Off-Grid
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2023
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I am setting up a detached garage to be powered fully Off-Grid which will provide a testbed for multiple different Battery and Inverter options moving forward. I will show you how to connect to a 100 Amp sub panel through the use of a 30 Amp generator inlet. This will allow me to easily convert to On-Grid in the future if desired.
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I just recently purchased a maxed out delta pro system. Not sure exactly how we will set it up yet. We bought 2 delta pro’s, 4 extra delta pro batteries, 2 smart dual fuel generators, the voltage doubler, 2 remote screens, the home smart panel, and 6 400w folding panels. We plan to use the system with the smart panel to reduce or daily grid power usage as well as emergency power. We can also use half of the system in our fifth wheel for off grid camping. We will eventually 3200watts of hard panels to our patio roof at home.
Dang, that sounds like a heck of a setup.
Very insightful videos thanks
You bet!
Thanks for sharing. I'm looking at doing something similar at a pole shed that has no grid power. I will power with on site generator that I already own to run some lights and couple of outlets. However, I think I will be bonding ground and neutral in panels since it will be only panel in set up.
Nice. Love your videos!
Thanks Ray, we are just getting started over here and excited to continue to grow the channel. How is your stuff going, what projects do you have on the horizon?
@@everydaysolar I haven't been able to dedicate much time to it lately. Hopefully next year I can start doing more videos full time. My next large project would be to DIY Solar my own house. I'd love to chat about the inverters you've considered and other solar stuff. I'll shoot you an email after the holidays and maybe we can chat.
What are your thoughts on the Anker Solix F3800 all in one 120/240v unit? I am waiting on a 240v capable all-in-one unit and like the form factor of the Anker Solix as well.....I feel like even EcoFlow will come out with an all-in-one unit at some point also, instead of having to use two units. Anyway, this idea is making me wait on getting any of these units.
Hey Joel, I don’t have any personal experience. They have reached out several times in regard to sending over a unit but just haven’t taken them up on the offer yet. I will eventually test Anker and Bluetti compared to EcoFlow. I saw Silver Cymbal just put out a review. He does a great job giving a fair review of the features ruclips.net/video/PKNENRY26Og/видео.htmlsi=GcZ76CjZ5-gDir4a
Do you have any suggestions for small batteries that can handle situations where there is limited need for power?
I have a small (1,200 sq ft) commercial building. I have not used even 1 kWh in the last year. All I need is to power a garage opener for a big door (16 ft wide 14 ft tall) that is used once a month and LED lights for the whole space for a maximum of a half hour.
The utility has changed its policy and instead of charging $60 a year to have power hooked up it is now going to be $330 a year.
What would be nice is to have a removable battery that can be carried home easily for recharging. Depending on how long it would take it would also work to take it outside and plug it into small solar panels
I am going to do this setup in a shed which is under $1K and would easily handle your use case. This video should be coming out on the channel in the next 2 weeks.
@@everydaysolar Great. I'll be waiting!
Do you know off hand how many watts/amps a huge garage door like that takes? The door is insulated and is 16' wide and 14' tall so it has to be super heavy.
Curious as to the difference with this set-up and the one with the attached battery? With the attached battery can you get the 240 amp you are getting with 2 ecoflow delta pro? or is it exclusive only to 2 delta pro. Also, what's the benifit of 240 volt? is it only to input the power into the grid? if that's the case, why even have a generator and go direct from solar to the grid?
Specifically for this garage I want to install a Mr Cool mini split system which will run off 240V in addition to having a 240V outlet for various projects. You could do a lot with just a 120V setup but I will be expanding out this system so wanted to go 240V.
I have a question - do each of your 120VAC generators synchronize their frequencies to exactly out of phase such that you can operate a 240VAC appliance?
yes they do, exactly 180 out of phase
Thanks for the help 🙌
What work belt was that in the beginning?
That is a ToughBuilt Cliptech. I have used it for a couple years now and it is really nice. I love the ability to swap out the pouches depending on the job you are taking on. amzn.to/3sl5BYW
Not sure why you went 240 split phase in the garage when I don't even see a 240 double pull breaker in the panel.
Future expansion. 👍
Hi Scott, I generally find a lot of good information on your videos and consider you an overall credible source. Why in the world do you shoehorn these expensive ($3k each not including adapters)Deltapros into so many situations? You’re proposing a clumsy installation of two portable systems when you could buy an 8 kW split phase hybrid inverter and 10.24 kWh of battery for less than $5000 for a cleaner, more professional installation with more power and more potential to grow…
Thanks for the feedback. Yeah, this video is a bit more on just idea of powering off-grid. I will be testing additional hardware in the near future. I am looking at what EG4 has and that will most likely be something I test out in the coming months. What brand do you like?
@@everydaysolar I just installed four Sungold Power power walls and and a Sungold 6kw split phase hybrid inverter (which I think is manufactured by the same group as the eg4’s). I liked their pricing because the published prices include tax and shipping, and because their distribution and tech support is in California, where I live. I’m not crazy about the antiquated and limited app you have to use for the inverter, but we’ll see…
So where is the neutral bond in this setup?
Neutral bond can be a bit tricky since there are so many different setups. In this exact instance I should bond neutral to ground since this is completely off-grid and the EcoFlow does not bond in the unit. Since this setup will eventually be a sub panel fed from a 60 Amp breaker coming from the main 200 Amp panel then I would need to remove the bond keeping the neutral and ground separate at this sub panel and then bringing things together at the main. The second setup would not have the EcoFlow in the system.
Don't bond inside the panel yet. One day you might forget and plug the Ecoflows into the grid...poof!@@everydaysolar
From a personal perspective, I don't like the cost, or the single point of failure, that you have with the larger commercially-made power stations. That's why I used a component-based system for my off-grid office setup. As far as this video goes, it made it pretty boring, to be honest. You wired a service panel and plugged two power stations into a 30-amp receptacle. That was very effective, but not very interesting, really.
Thanks for the feedback Jason. I agree, there is significant advantage of being able to swap out 1 part of the overall system if/when it fails. Do you have a go to brand for charger, inverter, and batteries?
@@everydaysolar - I like the value proposition of Renogy products; good quality w/o the price of the (admittedly better) Victron line. (I do have a 24v Victron charge on my boat for the trolling motor battery). I have used MPP and Renogy for inverters and charge controllers. As far as batteries go, I have a couple of inexpensive Power Queen 100ah models, but the vast majority of batteries I use are either made from component parts or are 2nd-life products that I have rebuilt or repurposed.
@@jasonbroom7147 Thanks for the feedback. I actually have several Renogy products ready for a future DIY setup. I like what some have done with used EV batteries. The price point on used Nissan Leaf or similar packs is pretty compelling.
@@everydaysolar On a smaller scale, I have used 180wh LFP packs to run my 12v fridge for 36 hours at a time. Horses for courses.
Not all of us have the time to educate ourselves to not simply go the "boring" route.