Genesis 'live' is the best what you can get! Especially the parts Phil and Chester played drums simultaneously like In the cage, Afterglow, Home by the sea, Second Home by the sea, Firth of fifth, ... it's always mind-blowing on what level of perfection they played the drums. This makes every song/medley to an awesome experience... I love it!
So glad you finally got to enjoy this one, Ryan, after I've been recommending it for so long as the #1 Genesis live moment in my humble opinion! The whole band is firing all cylinders and the medley is just perfect. You enjoyed it as thoroughly as I expected. They bring an extra heaviness to all these tracks that's just mind-blowing. Especially In That Quiet Earth which is just crushing!
One of the great rock song medleys of all time. How they put it all together; songs from different albums that seem perfect together. This is musical brilliance
Totally agree, genesis live performances are way better than studio versions, and each tour have slightly different versions of each song, thanks for doing this, now subbed
One of the reasons Nathan might think Phil Collins and Peter Gabriel sound so similar is that, on a lot of songs during the Gabriel era, Phil sang background. Particularly on choruses, their voices would blend and it often sounded more like Phil than Peter. When Phil took over lead, he suggested that one reason fans accepted it was that, during live shows, Phil often had to cover Peter’s singing parts when he had problems with costumes. Nathan’s comments about the complexity of the drumming really make me want to see his reaction to Dance on a Volcano, which has insane time signatures. Also, Chester and Daryl play with the band on tour. On recordings, Phil does 100% of the drumming and Mike does all of the guitar and bass.
Peter and Phil's voices DO sound very similar. Genesis loved that musically. Often the guitars and synth are intentionally similar in tone and it is the texture that is important, unison. Ambiguity of lyric and sound is classic Genesis (both 'eras').
Afterglow live will always bring me to tears but I dunno about greatest live medley of all time... Dance on a Volcano into sometimes Bill, sometimes Chester + Phil *EPIC DRUM DUET* into Los Endos into the Squonk reprise (linked below for your viewing and listening pleasure) is unbelievably, mind-blowingly, jaw-droppingly, reality-alteringly, ungodly amazing!!! ruclips.net/video/EHbFZDDrge0/видео.html
The In the Cage Medley is on of my favorites. And Three Sides Live is my favorite Genesis album. You’re right about them being great in concert. Saw them in 1986 and they were so good. One thing that makes this medley so great is how they manage the energy of the performance throughout, letting it build in the beginning, and then roll through the other parts.
I saw 'em on this tour and a few other times and you're absolutely right: Phil was always more comfortable behind the drums than at the front of the stage. This is the Mama Tour version of the medley (the Three Sides Live version doesn't have the "...In That Unquiet Earth" section in it, the bit with the electronic drum hits). The "power chords on the keyboard" is probably Daryl Stuermer on the Roland GR-808 if I remember correctly. Daryl replaced Steve on tour, but all the guitars in the studio are Mike. The other fellow is the incomparable Chester Thompson of Zappa and Weather Report. Both Daryl and Chester toured with Phil's solo band as well. This was the song that got me into keys. The interplay of the synths and drums wasn't like anything I'd ever heard before. I couldn't play drums, so...keys it was. Glad y'all liked it. It's a special performance.
I was a huge Genesis fan from the late 70's til forever but unfortunately only saw them in concert once and this was the show. I was about 20 and couldn't believe it that my band was coming to Winnipeg! I bought 8 tickets straight up, row 16 floor and invited 7 friends for the show including my good friend but forever crush Nancy. Course, I strategically placed Nancy next to me and I will always remember when the chaos of The Cage moment of Round! Round! Round! Round! with the amazing light show dazzling us all played out(ok we were all a bit high) Nancy grabbed my arm in a panic and leaned in and cried "this is freaking me out!" Ah bliss.
Mike, bassist , has the “double guitar”. It’s a 12 string guitar and a 4 string bass. The reason for it is that he uses two distinct modes of playing - “Mode 1” is playing regular bass guitar. He uses this when fast or melodic bass lines are needed. - “Mode 2” is playing bass pedals with feet while simultaneously playing 12 string. He uses “Mode 2” during powerful and climactic sections, where the pedals provide a powerful drawn-out bass done while the 12 string fills out the soundscape with chords or arpeggios. Thus in “Mode 2”, genesis becomes a 6-man band, with Mike playing both bass and rhythm guitar. In many songs he switches back and forth between the “modes” several times, hence the need for the double neck.
By the way, I also wanted to say the double approach works really well. You get to play off each other in discussing the songs and that is pretty cool. 😊
Thanks for that one guys. Although I am definitely more of a Gabriel/Genesis dude, I will always enjoy experiencing any Genesis music of any era with you two. Never stop never stopping! 😎
And before anyone goes "Waaah waaah Neil Peart waah waah!" Well yeah, but consider the following: Peart has said that Phil Collins was an early inspiration to him. So if there had been no Phil Collins behind those drums, we may never have gotten the late and so so great Neil Peart,
MUSIC NIRVANA. This is the best version of their best medley. Great selection, Robert! BTW Nathan, that guitar synth you mentioned was only done when Steve Hackett played it - in this version, Tony plays it as straight synth. Some people complained when I recommended a specific, lower quality live version of "In That Quiet Earth" to Ryan. However, I picked it specifically because that was the only tour you could hear Hackett play it as the original composer (plus, Ryan at the time was about hearing a band and how they sounded as a snapshot in time). In fact, now you can probably listen to it with a more informed take, I linked directly to that synth guitar part: ruclips.net/video/DcSqaZLDzx4/видео.html . Check out how different that is from what you heard in this medley. They never did it like that again after that tour.
Phil took over 75/76. Peter left in 1975 after Lamb Lies Down on Broadway album and tour. Trick of the Tail, released in 76, is first album led by Phil.
Guys, how about some love for Tony Banks? IMO he's the best prog era keyboard player out of the lot in terms of composition. Wakeman had him beat when it came to technical live playing, but in terms of creating unique music no one could touch Banks.
I agree with you guys that going in blind is good. Personally my only issue is when the first listen is to a bad quality version of the music, or a crappy fan video that distracts from the music or even spoils the impression. It's like... listen to what you choose in the order you decide, but listen to the song in good quality, you know? Give the song the best chance to work for you.
This reaction was such fun I had to watch it a second time! (I saw it late last night before going to bed.) When I was getting into Genesis in the mid-eighties, a high-school friend of mine gave me a VHS copy of this concert. It was this medley that I really got the sense that Genesis was a unique band which did things that other artists in the charts were not doing. Even before then I found Genesis' songs unusual enough that they were worthy of paying close attention to them, but 'In the Cage' was definitely a song with a complex story with equally complex characters -- so much so, I felt compelled to deconstruct it. The experience was similar to what happened in a Fritz Lang film, 'The Testament of Dr. Mabuse.' (1933) In it, a criminal mastermind (Dr. Mabuse) has been put into an insane asylum. While there, he writes out his thoughts, page after page, onto notebook paper before tearing off the sheet and tossing it onto the floor and then continuing to write. After a while, a doctor who comes into the room gathers up all of the pages to study how Mabuse's mind works -- but in order to do so, he has to put the pages into the correct order. This engages the mind much more so than it would if all of Mabuse's thoughts were all ready in sequential order. So that's what my personal Genesis journey was like -- picking up little pieces here and there and trying to put them together in order to make some sense out of them. (Remember, this was way before the Internet offered all of the solutions in a pre-fabricated manner.) Hearing you guys comment on how Phil runs back to the drum kit whenever he's not singing reminds me of the 'Land of Confusion' video. In it, the Spitting Image puppets make fun of that to such an absurd degree that they've literally got Phil frantically playing the drums in between every line while he's singing! Again -- great fun, guys! Thanks!
One their greatest medleys. I only wish they'd included "Duke's Travels" as well, seeing as how they pretty much built this thing around every impressive Tony solo in their catalogue. But what's here is all fantastic and it all flows together extremely well.
I was one of those fortunate enough to see them three times in concert. When the medley came up, you were never sure what would be in it, but it would never disappoint. It was fun watching you enjoy it. Those concerts will live within me forever.
I saw them at Knebworth in 1992 in front of 120k people then I saw them a few months later at Wolverhampton Civic Hall in front of about 2k people. I was literally 10 feet away from Phil as he was singing and both were magical. I’m hopefully off to see them again (this time with my wife and 17 year old daughter) in September this year. Can’t wait 👍
I am a listener -- I also was a teenager when Genesis were releasing their albums --- one at a time -- alongside my own growth as a body as a mind and as a listener. For me, the sequence in which the art was released drew a path for me to wlak and dream on. By the way, at the time -- no wikipedia - no internet - but we had the album sleeves with a lot of artwork and all the lyrics were usually printed in the inlay. We also followed the development of the band - sometimes artists came and went, etc. so we had a certain expectation / understanding of what was going on.
There seems to be a general passing over of the '77 live album ' Seconds out' , the first album with the two concert drummers which give the performance and extra weight that you seem to enjoy. If you want a bridge between early and later Genesis ' Seconds out' is it, unsurpassed as a live album in clarity and musicality and with the signature anchor Steve Hackett still in place . Try listening to 'Suppers ready' from ' Seconds out' its more coherent and less a song of seperate parts and weighty too, from 9/8 on it sounds like armageddon.
@@WelpHereWeAreOnRUclips Thanks had missed it didn't go back far enough . Listened to it as my first Genesis album in '77 and went forward and backwards from there, but still return to it. Always.
One of the reasons Genesis sounds just as good live as they do in the studio is because (A) They use the same instruments and configurations when they tour and when they go record an album, and (B) They use the same crew members; the same roadie technicians are also behind the scenes helping make the album. They also used ShowCo Ltd. (now owned by Clair Bros.) as their live lighting and sound crew. Another interesting fact: Genesis helped create and fund the crazy new lighting system you see in this video called Vari*Lite. In 1980, they asked their sound touring company to build a lighting system that would change colors. They pulled through, but also had them move and change light intensities, along with cue programming for scenes.
Every modern moving light is based on that original Vari-Light and these lights were a quantum leap, like going from horse and cart to automobiles. Genesis may have had one of the biggest lasting legacies of all their contemporaries.
Haha.. Ryan fooooooled us. No-one would have suggested to listen to these five song saying ”Hey, listen to these songs and you’ll get Genesis” hahaha OK we are used to Ryan’s live perfomance obsession, though now this is a Patreon request....
I was at that gig. Birmingham UK on the mama tour 1984. It was a brilliant show. Phil was on fire. The only time Tony was mid-stage between chester and Phil. Bet that was noisy!
Remember at one time Steve Hackett and Peter Gabriel were in this group at the same time. I dare anyone to compare that lineup with anyone else in rock history.
Saw Genesis live 1982 Wembley and 2006 Twickenham a fantastic experience that stays with you for the rest of your life. In the cage after glow medly on the When in Rome dvd or CD is far better due to the modern equipment sound quality is amazing.
Took over lead vocals in 75...but he wasn't the band leader. It's Mike and Tony. Now they slowly let Phil's songs effect their sound in the 80s after Phil's massive success, but by then they were still quite an evenly run trio. It'd never been "Phil's band". And that's been a good thing for both Genesis and his solo career.
On the following Invisible Touch tour they modified the medley to be In the Cage - In That Quiet Earth (complete!) - Apocalypse in 9/8 into As Sure As Eggs is Eggs, the last 2 parts of Suppers Ready. Just amazing, unfortunately it was never released in video, although audio does thankfully exist.
Phil loves complex rhythms, must be from his fusion days with Brand X. He would have been a great jazz drummer. So fast! So clear! Impeccable timing. HOW many calories must he burn in a concert?
@@rkress9349ohhhh you’re the same guy ?? I can answer that actually. Phil had a few drum lessons and Tony had Piano lessons whilst young. Given that The Beatles had no formal training, I don’t think it held them back as songwriters. They just happened to emerge at a point in the U.K. when bands were trying to stretch their compositions beyond straight three minute pop songs.
Wow, only one mention of the best keyboard player in the rock world and that was only his name. The complexity of what Tony plays during In the Cage is nothing short of amazing. If you listen to the structure of the music included in this medley it is easy to see how Tony plays an incredibly powerful role in the music of Genesis. At least you mentioned his name.
No they sound good in the studio too, change your headphone dude LOL, and you said you do not want to make some research about the band, and it's not even your first Genesis reaction, so yeah Phil replace Peter as a lead singer in 1976. Nice reaction by the way 👍
Ryan... brilliant comments mate. I don't come to a reaction channel to find out what you "know" about a song, I come to watch you guys reacting..... Which is the whole point of the channel. I may put comments in my reaction to you, especially if you ask questions... but for goodness sake, has nobody got a sense of humour any more. Keep on Rocking
How do they do it, sound as good or better LIVE? Practice, practice, practice. Seriously. Chester (who has a lot of experience with jazz and other groups) said the only group to practice as long and hard as Genesis was Zappa. Zappa was insane. Guess Phil was pretty 'quality oriented', as they obviously all are.
I have seen Genesis in many forms and periods live. Afterglow was always famed for those pink lights from the back line shining into the crowd - famed for being 'jumbo jet landing lights'. But I don't think I ever experienced anything as incredible as seeing them do it at the Gabriel Reunion concert in 1982. I was a huge outdoor venue and it was absolutely pouring with rain all day and night. We were miles form the stage on a bank and when Afterglow was played, those lights came on, shining through the rain for miles, and the bass pedal literally shaking the ground. It was genuinely transcendental - and with Gabriel singing it. I'll never forget it.
Dig you two. What a pisser. And you're right, they were awesome live. But what came along in the 80's were more restrictive noise level laws. From the mid 70's on, rock sound had perfected its craft. Bands like ELP, Genesis & Yes (Neil Diamond used the same crew as Yes) essentially gave birth to the biggest sound companies in the business -- and the absolute best. Their roadies started most of the outfits. ...and no was was paying much attention to the amount of sound and pyrotechnics they brought along with them. Those were some great shows. But people with clipboards came along and spoiled much of the fun. More reasons Genesis sounded great live: They didn't vary the set list much. Their show was tight. And when they pack up their toys and go home, they hand over the tapes to their engineer (Nick Davis -- I'm pretty sure; spelling might be off) and give him the time to do excellent work. They have had much of their crew since the early seventies. The rest are rounded out by twenty and thirty year veterans. I saw Genesis and Phil solo before he broke into the stratosphere -- first time was in Madison Square Garden with Genesis. I walked out thinking, 'Why isn't this guys a superstar?' When it comes to performers who deliver, Phil Collins is right up there with Mick Jagger and Prince. I don't think he gets enough credit for that high bar of excellence -- especially since he toured more often than Jagger or Prince. I look forward to future voyeurism into your Genesis fun.
You had me interested. The guy with the beard is cute but to present Lamb without Peter is an injustice. That album was his creation. It caused the dissolution of Genesis. Look it up !
I've never felt Genesis sounded better live. They didn't sound worse live, either. Just a bit different. In this recording, the vocals have an arena echo in them with is really annoying. The music of Genesis, above all, was beautiful. That was easier to pull off with perfection in the studio. One thing about concert performances is that they feature the very best of a band, which makes a concert video more interesting. The mediocre songs don't make the cut. Hearing these medleys always makes me sad. By 1984, Genesis had turned into a pop band churning out radio singles. They attracted a huge worldwide following in doing so, and I suppose it was a nice nod to their old prog fanbase that they would still go back and pull some of the best moments from their old prog catalog, but the medleys meant those songs would never again get the full treatment, and that is what saddens me. Going to a Steve Hackett concert evaporates that feeling.
But but but it’s not Peter Gabriel singing :-) haha I am not a Genesis Phil Collins singing fan, not bad but not my cup of tea as I rather listen to Gabriel singing... and I do not think Genesis, (just like Supertramp) managed to get the sound and feeling out live in the same sense as Pink Floyd did in their live performances. Sometimes I think the music was to complex even for them to perform perfect live... Rutherford playing a double bass/guitar and foot bass sometimes.
@@jonnykhatru No, I was there in Montreal on the 15 December 1974 (original) show of ''The lamb lies down on Broadway'' with Peter Gabriel. Phil Collins is a good drummer. To me, Keith Moon was super and John Bonham was great. So Collins trying to sound like Peter Gabriel, not for me. Gabriel album ''So'' 3 times Platinum in the USA and 5 times in the UK. Peter Gabriel was Genesis.
@@Jaycee-Bee Marillion are a very different band to Genesis, unless you didn't notice Peter is not in the above video, your opinion is irrelevant .... again why are you here ?
Shut the fuck up
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@@WelpHereWeAreOnRUclips James seems a bit angry. He had a bad day 😉
@@WelpHereWeAreOnRUclips LOL
@@davidwylde8426 Wonder if James knows he can find this video on line himself and listen repeatedly with absolutely NO talking?
@@rkress9349 don’t tell him. Let the anger consume him. - Ryan
"The crowd must be loving this medley..."
We did. I was there.
Genesis 'live' is the best what you can get! Especially the parts Phil and Chester played drums simultaneously like In the cage, Afterglow, Home by the sea, Second Home by the sea, Firth of fifth, ... it's always mind-blowing on what level of perfection they played the drums. This makes every song/medley to an awesome experience... I love it!
So glad you finally got to enjoy this one, Ryan, after I've been recommending it for so long as the #1 Genesis live moment in my humble opinion! The whole band is firing all cylinders and the medley is just perfect. You enjoyed it as thoroughly as I expected. They bring an extra heaviness to all these tracks that's just mind-blowing. Especially In That Quiet Earth which is just crushing!
I’m slow. But I got there eventually -Ryan
This concert was mixed so well, you can hear the incredible bass lines dominating the fast keyboard bridge - I love this version.
This medley is a MASTERPIECE of composition AND performance 🎭!!!
Phil goes back on the drums at the end because they then segway right into a drum duet. Give yourself a treat and watch it. Freakin' awesome.
One of the great rock song medleys of all time. How they put it all together; songs from different albums that seem perfect together. This is musical brilliance
yes...one of the best ever...
One of the greatest performances of all time. 🎉❤ ive lost count of how many times I've watched this...
"Complex beat" indeed! That's one of the key elements that make it Progressive rock! So upbeat, tricky but groovable.
Totally agree, genesis live performances are way better than studio versions, and each tour have slightly different versions of each song, thanks for doing this, now subbed
That's true for pre 1980 songs, never for post 1980 though in my opinion. Dodo/Lurker, Sarah Jane and Turn It On Again are the exceptions.
He actually took over in 1975 for their first post Gabriel album A Trick of a Tail.
One of the reasons Nathan might think Phil Collins and Peter Gabriel sound so similar is that, on a lot of songs during the Gabriel era, Phil sang background. Particularly on choruses, their voices would blend and it often sounded more like Phil than Peter. When Phil took over lead, he suggested that one reason fans accepted it was that, during live shows, Phil often had to cover Peter’s singing parts when he had problems with costumes.
Nathan’s comments about the complexity of the drumming really make me want to see his reaction to Dance on a Volcano, which has insane time signatures.
Also, Chester and Daryl play with the band on tour. On recordings, Phil does 100% of the drumming and Mike does all of the guitar and bass.
Peter and Phil's voices DO sound very similar. Genesis loved that musically. Often the guitars and synth are intentionally similar in tone and it is the texture that is important, unison. Ambiguity of lyric and sound is classic Genesis (both 'eras').
Genesis is one of the best live bands of all time
Just beautiful piece of music
The greatest live medley of all time!!
Afterglow live will always bring me to tears but I dunno about greatest live medley of all time... Dance on a Volcano into sometimes Bill, sometimes Chester + Phil *EPIC DRUM DUET* into Los Endos into the Squonk reprise (linked below for your viewing and listening pleasure) is unbelievably, mind-blowingly, jaw-droppingly, reality-alteringly, ungodly amazing!!!
ruclips.net/video/EHbFZDDrge0/видео.html
@@sinistre You bring up a good point. I will have to re hear that meledy. Squonk from from Seconds out live is one of my favorite live songs ever
Yeah, it was great to see them on this and other tours!
It was Amazing To see them live. I have seen this tour. I was 18.
The In the Cage Medley is on of my favorites. And Three Sides Live is my favorite Genesis album. You’re right about them being great in concert. Saw them in 1986 and they were so good. One thing that makes this medley so great is how they manage the energy of the performance throughout, letting it build in the beginning, and then roll through the other parts.
I saw 'em on this tour and a few other times and you're absolutely right: Phil was always more comfortable behind the drums than at the front of the stage. This is the Mama Tour version of the medley (the Three Sides Live version doesn't have the "...In That Unquiet Earth" section in it, the bit with the electronic drum hits). The "power chords on the keyboard" is probably Daryl Stuermer on the Roland GR-808 if I remember correctly. Daryl replaced Steve on tour, but all the guitars in the studio are Mike. The other fellow is the incomparable Chester Thompson of Zappa and Weather Report. Both Daryl and Chester toured with Phil's solo band as well.
This was the song that got me into keys. The interplay of the synths and drums wasn't like anything I'd ever heard before. I couldn't play drums, so...keys it was. Glad y'all liked it. It's a special performance.
I was a huge Genesis fan from the late 70's til forever but unfortunately only saw them in concert once and this was the show. I was about 20 and couldn't believe it that my band was coming to Winnipeg! I bought 8 tickets straight up, row 16 floor and invited 7 friends for the show including my good friend but forever crush Nancy. Course, I strategically placed Nancy next to me and I will always remember when the chaos of The Cage moment of Round! Round! Round! Round! with the amazing light show dazzling us all played out(ok we were all a bit high) Nancy grabbed my arm in a panic and leaned in and cried "this is freaking me out!" Ah bliss.
Amazing story
Mike, bassist , has the “double guitar”. It’s a 12 string guitar and a 4 string bass. The reason for it is that he uses two distinct modes of playing
- “Mode 1” is playing regular bass guitar. He uses this when fast or melodic bass lines are needed.
- “Mode 2” is playing bass pedals with feet while simultaneously playing 12 string. He uses “Mode 2” during powerful and climactic sections, where the pedals provide a powerful drawn-out bass done while the 12 string fills out the soundscape with chords or arpeggios. Thus in “Mode 2”, genesis becomes a 6-man band, with Mike playing both bass and rhythm guitar.
In many songs he switches back and forth between the “modes” several times, hence the need for the double neck.
Nothing beats a double-neck Rickenbacker and Moog Taurus II pedals, like Mike Rutherford used.
Those amazing really deep and low bass sound comes from the pedal, there's nothing like it
Phil is a beast on the drums! Mike is SO underrated on bass. What an ensemble!
By the way, I also wanted to say the double approach works really well. You get to play off each other in discussing the songs and that is pretty cool. 😊
We can't appreciate the music so much you are screaming in our ears!!!😵
Thanks for that one guys. Although I am definitely more of a Gabriel/Genesis dude, I will always enjoy experiencing any Genesis music of any era with you two. Never stop never stopping! 😎
THE! BEST! DRUMMER! IN! THE! WORLD!
And before anyone goes "Waaah waaah Neil Peart waah waah!" Well yeah, but consider the following: Peart has said that Phil Collins was an early inspiration to him. So if there had been no Phil Collins behind those drums, we may never have gotten the late and so so great Neil Peart,
Ryan, you are a simple Person? Hahahaha 🤣 What a awesome Drummer is Chester..Wow
Cinema show...such a good instrumental piece it was played live for almost 50 years ❤
MUSIC NIRVANA. This is the best version of their best medley. Great selection, Robert! BTW Nathan, that guitar synth you mentioned was only done when Steve Hackett played it - in this version, Tony plays it as straight synth. Some people complained when I recommended a specific, lower quality live version of "In That Quiet Earth" to Ryan. However, I picked it specifically because that was the only tour you could hear Hackett play it as the original composer (plus, Ryan at the time was about hearing a band and how they sounded as a snapshot in time). In fact, now you can probably listen to it with a more informed take, I linked directly to that synth guitar part: ruclips.net/video/DcSqaZLDzx4/видео.html . Check out how different that is from what you heard in this medley. They never did it like that again after that tour.
Great insight and info as always - Ryan
Phil took over 75/76. Peter left in 1975 after Lamb Lies Down on Broadway album and tour. Trick of the Tail, released in 76, is first album led by Phil.
Guys, how about some love for Tony Banks? IMO he's the best prog era keyboard player out of the lot in terms of composition. Wakeman had him beat when it came to technical live playing, but in terms of creating unique music no one could touch Banks.
We love him. Check out Ryan’s other channel
He’s done many Genesis videos
Lest we forget Keith Emerson?
TONY IS THE SOUL OF GENESIS!!!!!!....
I agree with you guys that going in blind is good. Personally my only issue is when the first listen is to a bad quality version of the music, or a crappy fan video that distracts from the music or even spoils the impression. It's like... listen to what you choose in the order you decide, but listen to the song in good quality, you know? Give the song the best chance to work for you.
That’s fair. But we can’t know that regarding best quality. We rely on the requester. Or it’s not a first listen. - Ryan
My favorite live song.....
Wembley 1987 I was lucky enough to be there, just unforgettable.
This reaction was such fun I had to watch it a second time! (I saw it late last night before going to bed.)
When I was getting into Genesis in the mid-eighties, a high-school friend of mine gave me a VHS copy of this concert. It was this medley that I really got the sense that Genesis was a unique band which did things that other artists in the charts were not doing. Even before then I found Genesis' songs unusual enough that they were worthy of paying close attention to them, but 'In the Cage' was definitely a song with a complex story with equally complex characters -- so much so, I felt compelled to deconstruct it.
The experience was similar to what happened in a Fritz Lang film, 'The Testament of Dr. Mabuse.' (1933) In it, a criminal mastermind (Dr. Mabuse) has been put into an insane asylum. While there, he writes out his thoughts, page after page, onto notebook paper before tearing off the sheet and tossing it onto the floor and then continuing to write. After a while, a doctor who comes into the room gathers up all of the pages to study how Mabuse's mind works -- but in order to do so, he has to put the pages into the correct order. This engages the mind much more so than it would if all of Mabuse's thoughts were all ready in sequential order.
So that's what my personal Genesis journey was like -- picking up little pieces here and there and trying to put them together in order to make some sense out of them. (Remember, this was way before the Internet offered all of the solutions in a pre-fabricated manner.)
Hearing you guys comment on how Phil runs back to the drum kit whenever he's not singing reminds me of the 'Land of Confusion' video. In it, the Spitting Image puppets make fun of that to such an absurd degree that they've literally got Phil frantically playing the drums in between every line while he's singing!
Again -- great fun, guys! Thanks!
One their greatest medleys. I only wish they'd included "Duke's Travels" as well, seeing as how they pretty much built this thing around every impressive Tony solo in their catalogue.
But what's here is all fantastic and it all flows together extremely well.
I was one of those fortunate enough to see them three times in concert. When the medley came up, you were never sure what would be in it, but it would never disappoint. It was fun watching you enjoy it. Those concerts will live within me forever.
I saw them at Knebworth in 1992 in front of 120k people then I saw them a few months later at Wolverhampton Civic Hall in front of about 2k people. I was literally 10 feet away from Phil as he was singing and both were magical.
I’m hopefully off to see them again (this time with my wife and 17 year old daughter) in September this year. Can’t wait 👍
@@grahamea yep got tickets for Manchester in September seen them multiple times they never disappoint.
I am a listener -- I also was a teenager when Genesis were releasing their albums --- one at a time -- alongside my own growth as a body as a mind and as a listener.
For me, the sequence in which the art was released drew a path for me to wlak and dream on.
By the way, at the time -- no wikipedia - no internet - but we had the album sleeves with a lot of artwork and all the lyrics were usually printed in the inlay.
We also followed the development of the band - sometimes artists came and went, etc. so we had a certain expectation / understanding of what was going on.
I love this performance of ITC. Daryl is on fire here. Ok, he doesn't play with the atmosphere of Hackett, but he's demon rock lead player.
There seems to be a general passing over of the '77 live album ' Seconds out' , the first album with the two concert drummers which give the performance and extra weight that you seem to enjoy. If you want a bridge between early and later Genesis ' Seconds out' is it, unsurpassed as a live album in clarity and musicality and with the signature anchor Steve Hackett still in place . Try listening to 'Suppers ready' from ' Seconds out' its more coherent and less a song of seperate parts and weighty too, from 9/8 on it sounds like armageddon.
Check out “Ryan First Time Listens” channel. I covered Seconds Out - Ryan
@@WelpHereWeAreOnRUclips Thanks had missed it didn't go back far enough . Listened to it as my first Genesis album in '77 and went forward and backwards from there, but still return to it. Always.
‘Seconds Out’ was my introduction to GENESIS !!!
🙏Thank you GENESIS !!!
One of the reasons Genesis sounds just as good live as they do in the studio is because (A) They use the same instruments and configurations when they tour and when they go record an album, and (B) They use the same crew members; the same roadie technicians are also behind the scenes helping make the album. They also used ShowCo Ltd. (now owned by Clair Bros.) as their live lighting and sound crew.
Another interesting fact: Genesis helped create and fund the crazy new lighting system you see in this video called Vari*Lite. In 1980, they asked their sound touring company to build a lighting system that would change colors. They pulled through, but also had them move and change light intensities, along with cue programming for scenes.
Every modern moving light is based on that original Vari-Light and these lights were a quantum leap, like going from horse and cart to automobiles. Genesis may have had one of the biggest lasting legacies of all their contemporaries.
@@Aquatarkus96 Amen to that.
Haha.. Ryan fooooooled us. No-one would have suggested to listen to these five song saying ”Hey, listen to these songs and you’ll get Genesis” hahaha OK we are used to Ryan’s live perfomance obsession, though now this is a Patreon request....
I was at that gig. Birmingham UK on the mama tour 1984. It was a brilliant show. Phil was on fire. The only time Tony was mid-stage between chester and Phil. Bet that was noisy!
Floyd, Genesis, ELP, Clapton, Stevie Ray, Yes, etc etc all whom I love....... never been a greater live album than "Seconds Out".... ever.. JMO
Ryan reacts to seconds out on his other channel
Well you will get a chance to actually see them. They will start they tour in November here in Chicago IL.
It will be awesome.
Remember at one time Steve Hackett and Peter Gabriel were in this group at the same time. I dare anyone to compare that lineup with anyone else in rock history.
"3 Sides Live" Melody is the definitive one...
Pretty cool, guys
Saw Genesis live 1982 Wembley and 2006 Twickenham a fantastic experience that stays with you for the rest of your life. In the cage after glow medly on the When in Rome dvd or CD is far better due to the modern equipment sound quality is amazing.
Took over lead vocals in 75...but he wasn't the band leader. It's Mike and Tony. Now they slowly let Phil's songs effect their sound in the 80s after Phil's massive success, but by then they were still quite an evenly run trio. It'd never been "Phil's band". And that's been a good thing for both Genesis and his solo career.
Afterglow by Tony Banks, maestro of the keyboards and magnifico songwriter
On the following Invisible Touch tour they modified the medley to be In the Cage - In That Quiet Earth (complete!) - Apocalypse in 9/8 into As Sure As Eggs is Eggs, the last 2 parts of Suppers Ready. Just amazing, unfortunately it was never released in video, although audio does thankfully exist.
There is a version of it filmed at Montreux. Search that and you'll find it
Phil loves complex rhythms, must be from his fusion days with Brand X. He would have been a great jazz drummer. So fast! So clear! Impeccable timing.
HOW many calories must he burn in a concert?
He was playing complex time signatures with Genesis, pretty much straight off the bat. A good five or six years before Brand X.
@@davidwylde8426 True enough. All that R&B gave him such a great feel. Wonder how much formal training the other guys in the band had?
@@rkress9349ohhhh you’re the same guy ??
I can answer that actually. Phil had a few drum lessons and Tony had Piano lessons whilst young. Given that The Beatles had no formal training, I don’t think it held them back as songwriters. They just happened to emerge at a point in the U.K. when bands were trying to stretch their compositions beyond straight three minute pop songs.
Wow, only one mention of the best keyboard player in the rock world and that was only his name. The complexity of what Tony plays during In the Cage is nothing short of amazing. If you listen to the structure of the music included in this medley it is easy to see how Tony plays an incredibly powerful role in the music of Genesis. At least you mentioned his name.
No they sound good in the studio too, change your headphone dude LOL, and you said you do not want to make some research about the band, and it's not even your first Genesis reaction, so yeah Phil replace Peter as a lead singer in 1976. Nice reaction by the way 👍
-14.54...the best, the power, the collective, the orchestra, the simphony.... Very close to perfection to me
Are you telling me that Peter Gabriel once sang 'Afterglow'? Live? and I missed it???
You’re Welpcome
Ryan... brilliant comments mate. I don't come to a reaction channel to find out what you "know" about a song, I come to watch you guys reacting..... Which is the whole point of the channel. I may put comments in my reaction to you, especially if you ask questions... but for goodness sake, has nobody got a sense of humour any more.
Keep on Rocking
Ty brother ! You get it
Is this from the Mama tour?
How do they do it, sound as good or better LIVE? Practice, practice, practice. Seriously. Chester (who has a lot of experience with jazz and other groups) said the only group to practice as long and hard as Genesis was Zappa. Zappa was insane. Guess Phil was pretty 'quality oriented', as they obviously all are.
Bass pedals are amazing
this is my funeral song....
Bass pedals are awesome
I have seen Genesis in many forms and periods live. Afterglow was always famed for those pink lights from the back line shining into the crowd - famed for being 'jumbo jet landing lights'. But I don't think I ever experienced anything as incredible as seeing them do it at the Gabriel Reunion concert in 1982. I was a huge outdoor venue and it was absolutely pouring with rain all day and night. We were miles form the stage on a bank and when Afterglow was played, those lights came on, shining through the rain for miles, and the bass pedal literally shaking the ground. It was genuinely transcendental - and with Gabriel singing it. I'll never forget it.
My friend, tony banks wrote AFTERGLOW
You should go to England and get GENISIS tour tickets
Dig you two. What a pisser. And you're right, they were awesome live. But what came along in the 80's were more restrictive noise level laws. From the mid 70's on, rock sound had perfected its craft. Bands like ELP, Genesis & Yes (Neil Diamond used the same crew as Yes) essentially gave birth to the biggest sound companies in the business -- and the absolute best. Their roadies started most of the outfits. ...and no was was paying much attention to the amount of sound and pyrotechnics they brought along with them. Those were some great shows. But people with clipboards came along and spoiled much of the fun. More reasons Genesis sounded great live: They didn't vary the set list much. Their show was tight.
And when they pack up their toys and go home, they hand over the tapes to their engineer (Nick Davis -- I'm pretty sure; spelling might be off) and give him the time to do excellent work. They have had much of their crew since the early seventies. The rest are rounded out by twenty and thirty year veterans. I saw Genesis and Phil solo before he broke into the stratosphere -- first time was in Madison Square Garden with Genesis. I walked out thinking, 'Why isn't this guys a superstar?' When it comes to performers who deliver, Phil Collins is right up there with Mick Jagger and Prince. I don't think he gets enough credit for that high bar of excellence -- especially since he toured more often than Jagger or Prince.
I look forward to future voyeurism into your Genesis fun.
I was there NEC Birmingham 1984
Yup, me too. Took a “sickie” to get the coach up from South Wales!
BEST VERSION OF IN THE CAGE : PETER GABRIEL'S ERA 1974 /1975 - Second Best : SECONDS OUT 1977 WITH MEDLEY
Ryan, try the medley from 2007. We can’t dance tour. It’s a great medley.
You had me interested. The guy with the beard is cute but to present Lamb without Peter is an injustice. That album was his creation. It caused the dissolution of Genesis. Look it up !
IMHO three sides live was there best tour, they sounded the best, pls do a reaction to that tour
Check out Ryan’s channel for 3 sides live reactions
Well the ballad Afterglow was written by Tony Banks not Phil.
Chester and Phil are the best in the business.
7:18 Phil took over in 1975.
I've never felt Genesis sounded better live. They didn't sound worse live, either. Just a bit different. In this recording, the vocals have an arena echo in them with is really annoying. The music of Genesis, above all, was beautiful. That was easier to pull off with perfection in the studio. One thing about concert performances is that they feature the very best of a band, which makes a concert video more interesting. The mediocre songs don't make the cut.
Hearing these medleys always makes me sad. By 1984, Genesis had turned into a pop band churning out radio singles. They attracted a huge worldwide following in doing so, and I suppose it was a nice nod to their old prog fanbase that they would still go back and pull some of the best moments from their old prog catalog, but the medleys meant those songs would never again get the full treatment, and that is what saddens me. Going to a Steve Hackett concert evaporates that feeling.
But but but it’s not Peter Gabriel singing :-) haha I am not a Genesis Phil Collins singing fan, not bad but not my cup of tea as I rather listen to Gabriel singing... and I do not think Genesis, (just like Supertramp) managed to get the sound and feeling out live in the same sense as Pink Floyd did in their live performances. Sometimes I think the music was to complex even for them to perform perfect live... Rutherford playing a double bass/guitar and foot bass sometimes.
was 1976..sorry man,ha xx
Your voices are too too too loud compared to the music, it's unbearable!!! Be sure to work on your mix!!!
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Genesis without Peter Gabriel, to me, was almost mediocre.
This video didn't change your mind?
Sorry to bore you with this then, nothing of interest for you here.......... why are you here ?
@@jonnykhatru No, I was there in Montreal on the 15 December 1974 (original) show of ''The lamb lies down on Broadway'' with Peter Gabriel. Phil Collins is a good drummer. To me, Keith Moon was super and John Bonham was great. So Collins trying to sound like Peter Gabriel, not for me. Gabriel album ''So'' 3 times Platinum in the USA and 5 times in the UK. Peter Gabriel was Genesis.
@@robertbarnett9939 To say that Genesis without Peter Gabriel is just another ordinary band. Even Marillon were better in the same era.
@@Jaycee-Bee Marillion are a very different band to Genesis, unless you didn't notice Peter is not in the above video, your opinion is irrelevant .... again why are you here ?
This is not a Genesis song. It’s two half songs. Medleys suck. Check out the originals.