Being that the barrel is plastic, no green led and that cylinder being loose kinda kills me on that 1k price. Thanks alot for the video and making my mind up.
The Tomens are also plastic but the 2049 I have has that metallic plastic. Not sure if they changed production methods for everything. Green LEDs for the sight would have been nice
@@MrJames2025a It does not come with a metal cylinder (I should know, I have two), there is a guy on RPF that makes the metal ones. Did you buy it second hand? If not then what you have is a polymer with zinc particles in it. The weight difference is substantial and you'd know if it was actual steel.
I know it's a movie gun but I thought the ammo used was light explosive bullets if you were hunting down and retiring hardened androids. It makes sense.
they look like they are just regular bullets in the movie. No light trail or any fancy stuff when he's shooting. But I have seen some bullets with light up tips available.
@@Win7ermu7e "terribly" inaccurate is kind of an overstatement, but I'll take my extra $600 and my upgraded metal frame and metal upper receiver offworld blaster, so...
The Rich Coyle version is the closest to the screen version, including how it is was originally put together, along with the flaws and foibles. But a RC version is not cheap.
I’ve got #89. Like you, I thought to weather it, but have changed my mind and am going to leave it pristine. Also like you, I am slowly working on another metal one that will be weathered. Possibly with some real world parts as well.
@@mariuscinematicuniverse The one from DaveChaos on the RPF, which I believe is based on the Anders design. But (and this is where I fess up and admit I am trying to build as accurate a version as I can) I also have: 1. Real Charter Arms Bulldog that will be rendered inoperable/barrel removed. Not interested in a live-fire version but to want it to be as accurate as possible. 2. Steel barrel 3. Real Weaver and EE-8 field phone knobs. 4. Aluminum laser site rod I may or may not look for a an actual S&W trigger. I have a bunch of Coyle parts but the pewter castings were largely garbage and unusable. That’s why I’m getting the Dave Chaos kit. In for a penny, in for a pound…
oh wow, yeah you're into it for real. I would like a real frame or at least a full metal frame for my Tomen. But I probably wont, unless someone goes that route. But doesn't seem like the Tip Top Anders kit does the either.
the upper action on the gun ....the bolt action breech and the double trigger is never addressed in the films. but: the upper breech is for loading higher and lower pressure cartridges (blank cartridges) that gas assist rounds from the revolver and/or propel projectiles from a launcher assembly not seen in the films. the pistol is the main workhorse in a modular weapon system. the second trigger fires the upper chamber. whats missing is the sbr style shouldered chassis the blaster is a part of.
There is a retailer here that sell a brand new condition FX Paragon Elite Blade Runner 2049 Blaster like yours. I am very tempted to buy it from them. But, I heard that the Temanosuke's latest version is the best version one. Is it true? What do you think? How do they compare, in your opinion? Are they the same quality? Thank you.
I have the first Tomen 2049 blaster, and I compared it in a video. They are pretty similar except the frame and cylinder on the tomen has metal particles impeded into the plastic so it feels more metallic. But these are made by Tomenosuke so I am not sure if they changed their production methods on the newer versions. The Tomenosuke comes as a kit and built, but I think the built one is more expensive than the Paragon. But overall, I don't think. there's a huge difference. Definitely not for display purposes.
Its a great looking piece for sure. If its for display then there are some incredible 3d printed versions available at a much lesser price. I understand the desire to own a realistic prop like this but the price is just beyond my means. Nice to see it though.
It is definitely expensive. I do think it will "hold its value" to a certain degree. But still a chunk of change to spend. The 3D printed are nice, but the resin stunt model is a pretty in between... But I guess that is essential the same as nice 3D printed one.
Sent Paragon an email with regard to what parts were metal. This is what they said, not sure they seemed certain. Comments welcome. (Thanks ahead of time) Customer Support reply: The main body, cylinder and barrel are metal. The only pieces I know off that are not metal are the amber grips that are placed on top of the metal handle infrastructure, the battery cartridge that also houses the lights where the "magazine" would be, the triggers and potentially some of the pieces that hold the triggers in place and allow the rear trigger to be activated. Customs considered the piece to be 85% metal, if that is helpful.
I just looked at it again, and used the trusted licking method :) and yeah its totally room temperature (while the other metal parts are colder) and does not have any of the qualities of metal. Def feels like some sort of plastic or composite. The tomen I have is also plastic, but it's blended in with metal particles but that gives it a very different feel.
Thanks so much for checking. Didn’t think it was 85% metal at the price they’re asking. I’ve just started looking for one, and didn’t know about the multiple variations of the Tomenosuke as well as the metal Sidkits and the Coyle. It’s an lengthy ride into the rabbit hole learning about the blaster. Anyway, from what I learned, the Paragon sounds really nice and good buy. BTW, very much enjoyed the review, it helped put me on track.
It's a deep rabbit hole for sure. The Paragon is very nice and it is in face a tomenosuke. If you want one for display, but want the more premium feel and finish when you pick it up I don't think you can go wrong with this one. And it comes all assembled and done. You can always go down the rabbit hole and build one from one of the kits or get another tomen to mod later
That really doesn't seem worth the exorbitant price. For that money I'd want everything to feel solid, all the metal parts to be metal and I'd want everything screen accurate. I bought one that was 400 and the only negative compared to the ones that cost more than double was the clarity of the engraving. Everything else is top notch. Plus I didn't feel bad weathering the bejeezus out of it to make it match the actual prop, which this one doesn't.
@Marius Cinematic Universe says even more bud. Toy or not, finger off trigger is instilled training for all. It's ingrained. Those that don't show this, says they aren't familiar with firearms and are not trained as it's second nature for those who are.
@@TackDriver556 Thanks for being a pedantic tough guy on a prop website, I'm sure everyone is very impressed. And btw I would have cleared the trigger out of habit as well but certainly wouldn't think I was cool for calling someone out on a non-functional science fiction toy, "bud".
My dream weapon prop, if only i can have one. One day, some day.
It's a very cool prop
Being that the barrel is plastic, no green led and that cylinder being loose kinda kills me on that 1k price. Thanks alot for the video and making my mind up.
The Tomens are also plastic but the 2049 I have has that metallic plastic. Not sure if they changed production methods for everything.
Green LEDs for the sight would have been nice
@@mariuscinematicuniverse I also read somewhere that you cannot change the barrel to metal on the paragon one
The Tomens does have a metal cylinder. I should know, I own one.
@@MrJames2025a It does not come with a metal cylinder (I should know, I have two), there is a guy on RPF that makes the metal ones. Did you buy it second hand? If not then what you have is a polymer with zinc particles in it. The weight difference is substantial and you'd know if it was actual steel.
I know it's a movie gun but I thought the ammo used was light explosive bullets if you were hunting down and retiring hardened androids. It makes sense.
they look like they are just regular bullets in the movie. No light trail or any fancy stuff when he's shooting. But I have seen some bullets with light up tips available.
plastic parts on a thousand dollar blaster? Oof... I was almost sold until I heard that... guess I'll stick with my offworld inc model
I wish it had the same metallic plastic ad the Tomen. Not sure if they also changed their materials since the original 2049 version.
I mean sure but your offworld is terribly inaccurate compared to a tomen and also has plastic parts (like the real prop) so. . .
@@Win7ermu7e "terribly" inaccurate is kind of an overstatement, but I'll take my extra $600 and my upgraded metal frame and metal upper receiver offworld blaster, so...
The Rich Coyle version is the closest to the screen version, including how it is was originally put together, along with the flaws and foibles. But a RC version is not cheap.
I’ve got #89. Like you, I thought to weather it, but have changed my mind and am going to leave it pristine. Also like you, I am slowly working on another metal one that will be weathered. Possibly with some real world parts as well.
which metal version are you working on?
@@mariuscinematicuniverse
The one from DaveChaos on the RPF, which I believe is based on the Anders design. But (and this is where I fess up and admit I am trying to build as accurate a version as I can) I also have:
1. Real Charter Arms Bulldog that will be rendered inoperable/barrel removed. Not interested in a live-fire version but to want it to be as accurate as possible.
2. Steel barrel
3. Real Weaver and EE-8 field phone knobs.
4. Aluminum laser site rod
I may or may not look for a an actual S&W trigger. I have a bunch of Coyle parts but the pewter castings were largely garbage and unusable. That’s why I’m getting the Dave Chaos kit. In for a penny, in for a pound…
oh wow, yeah you're into it for real. I would like a real frame or at least a full metal frame for my Tomen. But I probably wont, unless someone goes that route. But doesn't seem like the Tip Top Anders kit does the either.
the upper action on the gun ....the bolt action breech and the double trigger is never addressed in the films. but:
the upper breech is for loading higher and lower pressure cartridges (blank cartridges) that gas assist rounds from the revolver and/or propel projectiles from a launcher assembly not seen in the films. the pistol is the main workhorse in a modular weapon system. the second trigger fires the upper chamber. whats missing is the sbr style shouldered chassis the blaster is a part of.
There is a retailer here that sell a brand new condition FX Paragon Elite Blade Runner 2049 Blaster like yours. I am very tempted to buy it from them. But, I heard that the Temanosuke's latest version is the best version one. Is it true? What do you think? How do they compare, in your opinion? Are they the same quality? Thank you.
I have the first Tomen 2049 blaster, and I compared it in a video. They are pretty similar except the frame and cylinder on the tomen has metal particles impeded into the plastic so it feels more metallic. But these are made by Tomenosuke so I am not sure if they changed their production methods on the newer versions. The Tomenosuke comes as a kit and built, but I think the built one is more expensive than the Paragon. But overall, I don't think. there's a huge difference. Definitely not for display purposes.
what powers the led light?
it's not powered, but neither was the movie one I think. But there are some kits and hacks to make it light up.
Its a great looking piece for sure. If its for display then there are some incredible 3d printed versions available at a much lesser price.
I understand the desire to own a realistic prop like this but the price is just beyond my means. Nice to see it though.
It is definitely expensive. I do think it will "hold its value" to a certain degree. But still a chunk of change to spend. The 3D printed are nice, but the resin stunt model is a pretty in between... But I guess that is essential the same as nice 3D printed one.
5:40 till about 13:26 is just a black screen 😢
And 13:40 till 17:22
whoops. Accidentally forgot to set out point. Changing it now. It should be much shorter :) Thanks
Sent Paragon an email with regard to what parts were metal. This is what they said, not sure they seemed certain. Comments welcome. (Thanks ahead of time)
Customer Support reply:
The main body, cylinder and barrel are metal. The only pieces I know off that are not metal are the amber grips that are placed on top of the metal handle infrastructure, the battery cartridge that also houses the lights where the "magazine" would be, the triggers and potentially some of the pieces that hold the triggers in place and allow the rear trigger to be activated. Customs considered the piece to be 85% metal, if that is helpful.
I'll check it out again and but the barrel certainly didn't feel like metal to me.
Thanks
I just looked at it again, and used the trusted licking method :) and yeah its totally room temperature (while the other metal parts are colder) and does not have any of the qualities of metal. Def feels like some sort of plastic or composite. The tomen I have is also plastic, but it's blended in with metal particles but that gives it a very different feel.
Thanks so much for checking. Didn’t think it was 85% metal at the price they’re asking. I’ve just started looking for one, and didn’t know about the multiple variations of the Tomenosuke as well as the metal Sidkits and the Coyle. It’s an lengthy ride into the rabbit hole learning about the blaster. Anyway, from what I learned, the Paragon sounds really nice and good buy. BTW, very much enjoyed the review, it helped put me on track.
It's a deep rabbit hole for sure. The Paragon is very nice and it is in face a tomenosuke. If you want one for display, but want the more premium feel and finish when you pick it up I don't think you can go wrong with this one. And it comes all assembled and done.
You can always go down the rabbit hole and build one from one of the kits or get another tomen to mod later
That really doesn't seem worth the exorbitant price. For that money I'd want everything to feel solid, all the metal parts to be metal and I'd want everything screen accurate. I bought one that was 400 and the only negative compared to the ones that cost more than double was the clarity of the engraving. Everything else is top notch. Plus I didn't feel bad weathering the bejeezus out of it to make it match the actual prop, which this one doesn't.
which one did you get?
"Clearly not uh used to loading guns", showing his finger immediately goes on trigger.....yeah, we all could tell lol
plus, it's a toy
@Marius Cinematic Universe says even more bud. Toy or not, finger off trigger is instilled training for all. It's ingrained. Those that don't show this, says they aren't familiar with firearms and are not trained as it's second nature for those who are.
@@TackDriver556 Thanks for being a pedantic tough guy on a prop website, I'm sure everyone is very impressed. And btw I would have cleared the trigger out of habit as well but certainly wouldn't think I was cool for calling someone out on a non-functional science fiction toy, "bud".
very nice gun but quite expensive. could buy a real gun for that money.
Too bad this one can not ship oversea.
might find some on ebay. Some Tomenosuke sellers in Japan will ship internationally, but your country might have restrictions
Wow super gay. I’m glad I’m not a dork
It sucks . The paint is cheap matte for that money it should be blued