Detroit Pistons - Glory Times, 2004 Championship

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  • Опубликовано: 28 окт 2024

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  • @demolisherOfMoney
    @demolisherOfMoney 8 лет назад +23

    Larry is a hell of a coach. My fucking fav, he doesnt need amazing players to produce results.

  • @orz9313
    @orz9313 8 лет назад +52

    Big Ben's and Buh-Buh Billups jersey retirements this season made me remember my childhood and watching these games.

    • @whoizdat1
      @whoizdat1 8 лет назад +1

      right

    • @iggymiranda1797
      @iggymiranda1797 8 лет назад +1

      Yess! I was in high school back then. I remember watching almost all their season game replays almost every night. I love this team.

  • @jebautis99
    @jebautis99 8 лет назад +20

    Back to watch this for the 100th time. Can't wait to see Chauncey's number go into the rafters!

  • @shaqb6521
    @shaqb6521 7 лет назад +8

    Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard.

  • @johnpestano2549
    @johnpestano2549 8 лет назад +3

    this is one of the best Pistons team of all time these guys played together there were no egos everyone knew what the goal and that was to win championship coach brown was a excellent coach he made sure that everyone focused on the team and that played a factor in us winning a title in 04' I think it's critical when a team hires a head coach they make sure that coach is a good fit for the team to achieve success and coach brown established his philosophy since day 1 and the Pistons respected that voice and demeanor of how coach brown coached the team

  • @cskaismful
    @cskaismful 7 лет назад +2

    My favorite team of all time! I know there have been better teams overall than my Pistons but they are up there with all of the all time great teams no doubt! Deeetroit Basketbaaall!

  • @absolutely9924
    @absolutely9924 8 лет назад +43

    DAAAAAMN so Pistons not only beated one mamba - Kobe Bryant, but 2nd mamba?
    I didn't kno they beat white mamba aka Brian Scalabrine.
    That's fucking impressive.

    • @noahsigal8160
      @noahsigal8160 8 лет назад +14

      Brain Scalabrnie let them win if he tried his best the NBA would go out of business because he would be to good

    • @assclownmcgraw5634
      @assclownmcgraw5634 6 лет назад

      I'm sure they also defeated one of the best players during that time --- Sean May.

  • @AlbinSahovic
    @AlbinSahovic 9 лет назад +11

    This TEAM was GREAT

  • @ephraimlassig5876
    @ephraimlassig5876 7 лет назад

    Wow, what a team... found this videotape in a local library which made me a piston fan eventually! I think this team truly embodies the pride of basketball! Thank you guys... - a fan from europe

  • @daddybemskieofficial1988
    @daddybemskieofficial1988 4 года назад

    Great story of hardwork and teamwork congratz 2004 piston

  • @emergencygaming4164
    @emergencygaming4164 8 лет назад +20

    Everyone calls Darko Milicic a bust but he became champion before any of the big name players from the '04 draft.

    • @Ruk.14
      @Ruk.14 7 лет назад +4

      Emergency Gaming Shut the fuck up

    • @jaybrick8973
      @jaybrick8973 7 лет назад

      Emergency Gaming lol

  • @nasercea
    @nasercea 8 лет назад +9

    All star Lakers ( Kobe Bryant, Shaq, karl Malone, Gary Payton, Horace Grant, Derek Fisher, Rick Fox) against the Pistons :D ..

  • @johnpestano8566
    @johnpestano8566 8 лет назад +3

    great documentary this '04 team was very special to watch

  • @ysabellajacobsantiago9198
    @ysabellajacobsantiago9198 8 лет назад +5

    it made me cry

  • @pakunodapavlovic
    @pakunodapavlovic 5 лет назад +1

    Watching this in 2019

  • @michaelbates350
    @michaelbates350 9 лет назад +15

    Bad Boys II: Detroit Vs. Everybody. Can't wait for some 2015-2016 DETROIT BASKETBALL!!!!!!

    • @rockyfour7726
      @rockyfour7726 9 лет назад +1

      yes sirrrr

    • @maxwellosei5393
      @maxwellosei5393 8 лет назад

      +michael bates still excited about the 2015-2016 version ? lol

    • @michaelbates350
      @michaelbates350 8 лет назад +1

      i have mixed feelings:(

    • @emberbender6973
      @emberbender6973 8 лет назад +1

      +michael bates well atleast you guys have an all star in Drummond

    • @michaelbates350
      @michaelbates350 8 лет назад

      yea...but he has moments where he gets down on himself and it shows in his lack of effort at times. I really like KCP and I think that Stanley Johnson is going to be a very good player. This team is a player or two away yet...fun to watch at times and very frustrating as well.

  • @lamam9058
    @lamam9058 7 лет назад +2

    Y'all don't even know how intense the Nets series was.... Kidd vs Billups all game long had me on the edge of my seat

  • @alberteinstein6544
    @alberteinstein6544 9 лет назад +2

    Rasheed Wallace was the spirit behind the Pistons dude is a Philly legend and my all time favorite player

  • @serciasoliven6411
    @serciasoliven6411 8 лет назад

    this pistons.is truly playing basketball together,thanks a lot chauncey,big ben,rasheed,rip,tayshaun,this is how basketball suppose to play.

  • @johnjomargurrobat1566
    @johnjomargurrobat1566 5 лет назад

    DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS
    Larry Brown is a hall of famer and a great motivator what he did with 2001 76ers and 2004 piston

  • @nathaliepolfliet4457
    @nathaliepolfliet4457 7 лет назад +2

    the glory time of the PISTONS

  • @prasantrajan961
    @prasantrajan961 7 лет назад +34

    This Pistons team would destroy the Warriors

    • @fearless9791
      @fearless9791 5 лет назад

      noooope

    • @darkerally
      @darkerally 5 лет назад +1

      @@fearless9791 yes

    • @dudewotever11
      @dudewotever11 5 лет назад +1

      In this era of basketball goldenstate would win

    • @pashpash6535
      @pashpash6535 5 лет назад

      @@dudewotever11 nope mot at all 😊 it is the battle of wing man players. piston have the advantage tho 😊

  • @mr.dought4723
    @mr.dought4723 7 лет назад

    I was 15 years old during this time :) I'm cheering for the Piston's while my cousin was a Pro-KOBE LAKERS :)

  • @giorgosgiannakis7034
    @giorgosgiannakis7034 5 лет назад +1

    One of the best team ever

  • @plavijadranband1
    @plavijadranband1 7 лет назад

    fascinating to see so many low scoring matches. they swept nets 90-69 in game 7!!!! great team, their defense was big time. so underrated. even with the draft pick of darko milicic they still managed to win that one championship. can't imagine if they picked melo, they would have been probably a three year dominant dynasty.

  • @NuggetsPatriot
    @NuggetsPatriot 5 лет назад +1

    "I'm not in this game to be in the Hall of Fame."
    Well Sheed, I think you'll still make it.

  • @johnpestano2549
    @johnpestano2549 8 лет назад

    Tay is one of my all time favorite piston he plays the game the right way he's unselfish and he's a good defensive player he does a good job using his length and size to disrupt perimeter jump shooters and I thought he did a good job guarding Kobe in the finals his arms bothered Kobe from making shots and that played a huge factor in us winning a title

  • @GunterJPN
    @GunterJPN 8 лет назад +2

    DEEEEETROIT BASKETBALL!
    Basketball played the right way.

  • @um52
    @um52 8 лет назад +2

    That 2004 Pistons was the only championship team I recall watching that won by having a tremendous defense. Their offense wasn't elite but they proved that season that teamwork and a great defense can beat a very good offense any given day.

  • @StFidjnr
    @StFidjnr 9 лет назад +1

    @ 51:29 16 wins to get the Larry O'Brien trophy as the NBA Champions, the guys playing in the palace at auburn hills have got 15

  • @Bigbaby950
    @Bigbaby950 9 лет назад +4

    not a day goes by do i not think of this team

  • @ThatDuuuude
    @ThatDuuuude 9 лет назад +4

    Sheed wore every other jersey except a pistons jersey, goddamn

  • @Tonedes1
    @Tonedes1 6 лет назад

    Loved it back when all the lakers fans said after they closely reached the finals that they already won the chip and then got absolutely destroyed by Detroit. That was a demonstration that a team with great chemistry and system beats a team which relies on 1 or 2 star players

  • @bobbymanning9767
    @bobbymanning9767 8 лет назад

    man being a lakers fan this was the dream team man omg we shoulda won it but Chauncey and tayshaun were hot all series

  • @niccogans
    @niccogans 9 лет назад +17

    SCALABRINE!

  • @garrettrice4366
    @garrettrice4366 9 лет назад +2

    2004 of bad boy basketball

  • @ProfessorBMedia
    @ProfessorBMedia 8 лет назад +4

    The Lakers loss to the Pistons in the 2004 NBA Finals marked beginning of the end of the dynasty as Shaq & Kobe had their falling out and Shaq was traded to the Miami Heat to pair up with Dwayne Wade and the Heat would win the franchise's first NBA two years later in 2006 and the Lakers would make it back to the Finals in 2008 losing to the Celtics before winning back to back in 2009 & '10.

  • @SkyDoesMinecraftFan4
    @SkyDoesMinecraftFan4 9 лет назад +10

    Milicic first one of the 2003 draft to get a ring :)

  • @oosinsei
    @oosinsei 8 лет назад +1

    i remeber at the time after 2004 olympics, people were talkin: just send detroit pistons to olympics instead of that team USA which got bronze

    • @serciasoliven6411
      @serciasoliven6411 7 лет назад

      thats the highest compliment that this pistons 04.team, we witness also here in malaysia that finals,specially game1,its televise here around 3 a.m. and everyone was betting,for lakers man.its unbelievable.

    • @82panther
      @82panther 6 лет назад

      And they were absolutely true. The 2004 Pistons would had brought the gold medal to the US

  • @82panther
    @82panther 6 лет назад

    The most gutsy championship in the history of the league

  • @mr.dought4723
    @mr.dought4723 7 лет назад +12

    this 2004 piston can beat the 2017 GSW and the 2016 Cavs :)
    hit like if you agree :)

    • @TejBBF223
      @TejBBF223 6 лет назад +2

      Not with 2017 rules! If Its early 2000 rules they would murder everybody. Who would stop Ben Wallace

    • @frankstv1094
      @frankstv1094 5 лет назад

      How about the brawl ahaha

  • @StFidjnr
    @StFidjnr 7 лет назад

    after detioit pistons won back 2 back nba titles in 1989 and 1990 both on the road this NBA title is for the fans because they did it in front of their home court

  • @Huestonkidart
    @Huestonkidart 8 лет назад +1

    I miss these days.

  • @samueltambunan6897
    @samueltambunan6897 6 лет назад

    The ball don't lie lol. this piston really made me a NBA fan - never a fan of one man vs five basket ball played by "legends" such as jordan or kobe. I really enjoy teams like this.

  • @MusicFromNBAFilms
    @MusicFromNBAFilms 6 лет назад

    Intro track: 00:02 Tom Hedden - Promises (A)

  • @selimsdan7042
    @selimsdan7042 9 лет назад +1

    i can smell the defense

  • @TejBBF223
    @TejBBF223 6 лет назад

    Its sad how the Pistons are kind of boring now but Dwane Casey can hopefully reignite the team and make moves. But you need to either maximize Blake Griffin or trade him for picks.

  • @tjzytkowski3322
    @tjzytkowski3322 9 лет назад +2

    All great Pistons teams were defensive first. Van Gundy is bringing back Bad Boys 2.0.

  • @NuggetsPatriot
    @NuggetsPatriot 5 лет назад

    K-Mart was an beast who wasn't all athleticism and would have been a superstar if it wasn't for injuries.

  • @Airdeemoney
    @Airdeemoney 8 лет назад +1

    You Knew The Lakers Were in Trouble After Losing Game One

  • @decaenofficial
    @decaenofficial 9 лет назад

    DOMINATION!

  • @savagetilley2782
    @savagetilley2782 9 лет назад

    I wasn't born to see the 80's team. But I seen Grant hills team and I always said it's got to get better than this! Stack was good and I thought getting young montross would of been good. And joe Was still playing then bringing in Mahorn I thought yeah! 1997 1998 we are going all the way! but it never happened. Then years down the road this team was put together and I loved it I could go to school everyday bragging how we dawged the Lakers all my friends was always pissed lol. Then we ran into the spurs girl I liked LOVED the spurs so it didn't end well for me lol

    • @JParks1981
      @JParks1981 9 лет назад +1

      Savage Tilley Yeah that was my one big regret with these Pistons, that the guys who built the team back up after Hill left couldn't be a part of this championship. Hill and Stack seemed like a great duo that just needed a couple more pieces around them but Hill jumped to Orlando. That Piston team immediately after was bad but entertaining. JYD was the first to go for Corliss, good trade for the Pistons but I loved the JYD. Then Uncle Cliff, Jon Barry, Chucky Atkins, and especially Stack, all those guys on the teams eliminated by Boston and Jersey were huge in revitalizing the Pistons and it was just such a shame that they all couldn't get their rings with the Pistons as well. I remember the start of this season and the early struggles, I felt that so much of it had to do with Elden Campbell starting and replacing Uncle Cliff and I was really mad at Joe D for it. Looking back I think this team would have won the championship with Sheed or Cliff cuz it was the depth more than the starting five alone that made this championship a reality.

    • @savagetilley2782
      @savagetilley2782 9 лет назад +2

      JParks1981 Those mid late 90's teams ugh so so over looked. I thank the heavens Joe D did build another championship team in the long run.

  • @bobbymanning9767
    @bobbymanning9767 8 лет назад +1

    oh and of course rip and Ben Wallace

  • @ALQAEDAATTACK
    @ALQAEDAATTACK 9 лет назад +6

    29:24 look at collins foreshadowing with that gay ass exchange with shaq.

  • @jan279
    @jan279 9 лет назад +26

    All these "Lakers would have won if this, if that" crap... yeah right, how 'bout the Lakers wouldn't have even reached the Finals if the refs didn't count Fisher's 0.4 second shot, or if Sam Cassell didn't injure his back prior to the Conference Finals? Laker fans with their excuses. SMH

    • @1TotalJabroni
      @1TotalJabroni 9 лет назад +5

      ***** Yeah, trust me as a fan, those Pistons' teams were legendarily great defensive teams. At one point in either '04 or '05 season, they held 6 straight NBA teams to under 70 points. Unfathomable. You could argue a bit of a decline in Superstar scorers in that era, but such a feat will never be accomplished again in the league.

    • @CoD3x4life
      @CoD3x4life 9 лет назад +5

      jan279 why wouldn't then count the shot? Derek Fisher got it off in time so theres no argument. But Sam Cassell definitely if he stayed healthy the T-Wolves would of spanked the lakers

    • @ofek99wwe
      @ofek99wwe 9 лет назад +1

      ***** Pistons really had a Fantastic Defense,,i mean me as a Spur..have to agree that in 2005 the spurs's hardest Finals Victory was against this Talented Detroit Team..for me they was the " New Bad Boys " of Detroit..

    • @JParks1981
      @JParks1981 9 лет назад +2

      jan279 Yeah I remember Jermaine O'Neal dissing the Pistons after this win saying they only won cuz their opposition every round had someone hurt. The big thing this documentary lacked was showing the role the Pistons bench played. This was the deepest team I ever saw not necessarily in talent but Larry Brown finding a way to get contribution from every player off the bench. Corliss gave you that great low-post threat being an impossible matchup, Memo was the big man who could step out and hit perimeter shots, Elden Campbell gave another imposing big man on defense, Darvin Ham could ignite the crowd with his highlight-reel dunks, and that back-court of James and Hunter on the floor together were a nightmare for the opposition playing lockdown on-the-ball-defense and hitting three's. The only thing they lacked that year was a replacement for Jon Barry or Chucky Atkins, that bona fide 3-point shooter off the bench. Lakers may have been able to match the Pistons talent but they couldn't match our depth. LA without Shaq and Kobe together on the floor had nothing which kept Jackson having to give them way too many minutes. Pistons were the fresher team throughout the regular season, the playoffs, and especially the Finals. LA had too many interior players with Shaq and Malone on the post and Kobe at his best driving to the basket, they were so one dimensional. It is remarkable they made it that far considering that they were a collection of talent not a well-rounded team.

    • @skillarecords
      @skillarecords 9 лет назад +2

      jan279 hate to tell you this injuries are a part of sports. Basketball unlike baseball where anyone can win if you have great pitching basketball one player can make a huge difference if Isiah Thomas doesn't sprain his ankle in 88 pistons probably win championship against Lakers if Karl Malone doesn't get hurt in 04 Lakers beat pistons if Billus doesn't get hurt in 03 against Nets Pistons probably go to the finals that year if Kyrie and K Love play Cavs beat Golden-State if D Rose doesn't go down I believe the Bulls would have been to at least one finals by now but like I said injuries are a part of the game

  • @emiliospowerballer1441
    @emiliospowerballer1441 7 лет назад

    are chancey billups and taj gibson related? THEY LOOK AND SOUND ALIKE

  • @poloregal
    @poloregal 9 лет назад +1

    Lakers had Shaq and Kobe. Case closed they should have won

    • @hiphoprbloverjon9180
      @hiphoprbloverjon9180 8 лет назад

      True. Kobe costed them though. Shot the Lakers out of every game trying to overshadow Shaq.

  • @QWQKET
    @QWQKET 7 лет назад

    No Darko Milic mention rly.The G.O.A.T bust
    I feel bad for beeing Serbian

  • @lexirose2096
    @lexirose2096 7 лет назад +1

    Series plead collector pit statistics selection practice flow.

  • @DWalters86
    @DWalters86 8 лет назад +2

    DETROIT BASKETBALL.

  • @MrBabarama
    @MrBabarama 9 лет назад +1

    46:50 is that stan van gundy?

  • @NPI-iz7bg
    @NPI-iz7bg 5 лет назад

    who scouted Darko Milicic?

  • @Lundahlium
    @Lundahlium 8 лет назад

    Name of the soundtrack at 19:37 ?

  • @trafikantdesprit
    @trafikantdesprit 9 лет назад +1

    Almost as good as live.

  • @luzvillasarao199
    @luzvillasarao199 6 лет назад

    😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

  • @letsgoooo9200
    @letsgoooo9200 9 лет назад +4

    Lakers had Payton and Malone damn and still lost

    • @TheStatisfiedOne
      @TheStatisfiedOne 9 лет назад +12

      34 year old Payton and 37 year old malone

    • @DarkFlippy
      @DarkFlippy 9 лет назад +4

      +dave jahoer they lost to a team with no superstar

    • @TheStatisfiedOne
      @TheStatisfiedOne 9 лет назад +4

      +TheHarslord rasheed was an all starr, chancey billups was an all starr, richard Hamilton was avg 20 ppg, ben Wallace was 4 time dpoy A defensive anchor that did every dirty work. Only avg Player was tayshaun But he was A defensive minded 3. Then we have THE bench wich was solid and probably on of THE best at THE time. Larry Brown top 3 coach in that era

    • @TheStatisfiedOne
      @TheStatisfiedOne 9 лет назад

      +TheHarslord on THE flipside. Lakers had no bench. Kobe had problems with shaq going into THE finals and he got problems with Karl malone who cheated with his wife. Speaking about malone THE Guy got injured midway THE finals. Payton was Shell of HIM self

    • @TheStatisfiedOne
      @TheStatisfiedOne 9 лет назад

      +TheHarslord kobe was Hero balling THE entire finals and literally froze shaq and his teammates by doing that. THE lakers offense just didnt met the defensive yhat THE pistons handed to them. And THE most importantly THE pistons played team basketball.
      OnE thing i know for sure if THE lakers where clicking with Each other and healthy then they wouldve beat the pistons in 6 or 7 But everthing what couldve went wrong, just went wrong

  • @awakeningwolf
    @awakeningwolf 9 лет назад +1

    18:03 white mamba

  • @alvaronehme3237
    @alvaronehme3237 9 лет назад +2

    20:57 listen closely and you'll hear a fart lol

  • @dexterlim894
    @dexterlim894 8 лет назад +1

    I remember THESE game PISTON BEAT THE Lakers the super team with malone and payton LEAD by kobe ANd Shaq in that time i hate kobe and shaq very much am so happy piston beat the lakers its a end for shaq and kobe era..

  • @TheDignam
    @TheDignam 7 лет назад

    Larry Brown's coaching was better than Saunders too much offense in playoffs...

  • @queonball7358
    @queonball7358 8 лет назад

    Karl Malone was the reason they lost he messed up the team chemistry when he flirted with Kobe wife and got injured

  • @shinobi8979
    @shinobi8979 4 года назад

    This is Basketball

  • @pex3
    @pex3 9 лет назад +1

    17:28 kidd travelled

  • @marytaylor6389
    @marytaylor6389 8 лет назад

    Rasheed=draymond green

  • @spideyvirus
    @spideyvirus 8 лет назад +1

    WHAAAAAAA the lakers lost WHAAAAAA!!!

  • @franklinclinton3476
    @franklinclinton3476 9 лет назад +1

    Detroit would had not beating the Lakers in 2004 if they would had got Pau Gasol instead of Karl Malone look what Pau Gasol did 4 the Lakers in 2009 and 2010 when the Lakers won Back to Back if the Lakers would had the line up of Gary Peyton Kobe Bryant Lamar Odom Pau Gasol Shaq O'Neal that line up would had beating Detroit in 6 Games and that a Fact Ps the Lakers would have Twin Towards with O'Neal and Gasol what i said is all Fact a Lakers line up with Gary Peyton Kobe Bryant Lamar Odom Pau Gasol and Shaq O"Neal beat Detroit in 6 Games in 2004

    • @franklinclinton3476
      @franklinclinton3476 9 лет назад +1

      FizzyG is your mom is

    • @iCONxR3cONiZED
      @iCONxR3cONiZED 8 лет назад +2

      +Franklin Clinton shut up they loss deal with it

    • @franklinclinton3476
      @franklinclinton3476 8 лет назад

      ReDNaTiON no i will not shut up

    • @franklinclinton3476
      @franklinclinton3476 8 лет назад

      ReDNaTiON your a spurs fan so why you care that i said something about the Pistons

    • @FizzyG
      @FizzyG 8 лет назад +2

      Okay let me explain this to you:Pau Gasol won those two championships while he was in his prime. At the time of 2004, gasol had been in the league for 2 SEASONS! His stats were abysmal as he was still undeveloped. Karl Malone was the best scorer of all time, but the chemistry wasn't there. I mean shit did you even watch the fucking documentary?

  • @nigba1121
    @nigba1121 9 лет назад +2

    Miami WOULD HAVE BEAT THESE PISTONS if FLASH wasnt injured

  • @MrMaximus734
    @MrMaximus734 9 лет назад

    Pistons would have never won if Kobe and shaqs beef stayed off the court!! They would have been beaten

    • @adamgottlieb5818
      @adamgottlieb5818 9 лет назад

      Well the Pistons could have drafted Wade, Anthony, Bosh, or Kaman and won more champions.

    • @MrMaximus734
      @MrMaximus734 9 лет назад

      U sound stupid cause u can say that about every team

    • @adamgottlieb5818
      @adamgottlieb5818 9 лет назад

      You can't actually say that about any team other than the pistons. those were the next 4 guys drafted after Darko in 2003. Each of those guys became stars at some point in their career.

    • @MrMaximus734
      @MrMaximus734 9 лет назад

      How many busts have there been? I'm pretty sure other teams would like their redo

    • @MrVapolove
      @MrVapolove 9 лет назад +2

      samuel tijerino BLAH...La would of won, if they scored more points than the Pistons.

  • @nanlei6947
    @nanlei6947 8 лет назад

    great gm trades. joe dumars Sheet Wallace Rasheed. 3 and more than d Okur of Turkey. Backup Lidsey hunter. hamilton for stackhouse. Chuck daly vs larry brown. similar but not equl. Larry is strict. tayshaun prince rookie like defenders bruce bowen. milicic darko is not tayshaun prince. T Prince is 3 and defe. Larry Brown was right of hating 3s. 76ers could keep Coach Brown but Iverson was more exhausting to Larry.

  • @gbendicion7052
    @gbendicion7052 7 лет назад

    Ugh....i see draft bust...i choke..

  • @franklinclinton3476
    @franklinclinton3476 8 лет назад +1

    what has Detroit done since winning the 2004 NBA Title Answer Me Pistons fans what have they done since 2004 Nothing Lakers since 2004 have won Back to Back NBA titles + the Pistons can't repeat as NBA Champions you guy got beat by the Spurs in game 7 heck you guy can't even 3 peat At least the Lakers can 3 peat and to top it off you guy have only 3 NBA Titles Lakers have 16 so to you guy have more titles then the Lakers i don't want to hear what the Pistons did to the Lakers in 1989 or 2004 because no body cares Lakers are still better then Pistons you want the truth Pistons fans you can't handle the truth