hey there, great video! wanted to see how the floor was doing now? (cracks, expansion, etc.) I like the idea of fiberglass in the concrete; do you know if it replaces the need for expansion joints and/or keyway? I'm wanting to build a floor that lasts, so I figured I would throw it out there... you seem very knowledgeable!
No need to wheel 16' chute high rage water reducer pour a 7 slump on the ground in 30 minutes pull wire up it's time lapsed if not you would watch this for 5 hours to slow
Here in Ct, we use front discharge trucks and they probably could have reached most of the floor, but you work with what you have. Great idea with the board trick !!
John Kodack wire mesh does not do anything for tensile strength in the middle. It is more effective even if it was not even pulled up at all. Know what your talking about with info and the engineering side of things before making a negative comment to someone else’s video or don’t even say anything at all.
Check the Wire Reinforcement Institute Tech facts for proper location of the mesh. They do not recommend at the bottom of the slab. Wire mesh is not for structural improvement. It is to minimize cracking and keep the slab together at crack locations.
Steve 1961P. The video misses them pulling up on the wire, but the wire does work it's way into the bottom 1/3rd of the concrete. This concrete is also fiber reinforced. It has been holding up well with only spider web type cracks appearing here or there.
***** When I watched masons up North doing a pour I always saw a wire basket type of thing that sat on the plastic barrier and held the wire mesh up at least 2". Some used hollow bricks broke in half to keep the wire mesh up in the center of the pour. Watching them do pours here in Florida I never see them used. I do see them using a hook tool to lift the mesh, but they are walking on it at the same time.. It seems to me that it is sinking til it lands on aggregate. That just seems wrong to me.. I am sure there is more to it, but some slabs I have had poured here are not lasting as they did in the North. And what I have poured here has fiber in it as well. When they first started using fiber here they used a long strand. It stuck up out of the crete in some places and wore off kinda fast, but today they don't use such long strands. I am no professional on this at all, but it seems that was a better idea. The finer and shorter fiber looks like it could easily slip and not hold the crete together. Just my .02 . As I said, I am not a pro. Just an observer..
Wire mesh is suppose to be in the bottom 1/3 of the slab as he stated. However wire is not there to prevent cracking because steel has elasticity to it and will stretch more than the tolerance of concrete can hold anyway. The purpose of wire is to prevent joints from separating after a crack. Saw cuts control the size of slab from expansion and contraction which concrete will do. Fibermesh helps more with reinforcing the whole thickness of a slab and gives more tensile strength to concrete which by itself has very little. Yes everyone has a different way of installing concrete and most concrete guys look at this and say not the way to do it. However it got hard and close tolerances I’m sure in the end. I’ve seen worse for sure. Lol. So thanks for the video.
There is nothing harder than wheelbarrowing concrete. Well, I guess the only thing harder is not having any help, and knowing the "clock is ticking." My wife used to tell me to "take a break," and I told her that if I rest, the concrete just keeps getting harder. These guys did a great job. I wish they would have ran the video at normal speed every now and then. I really wanted to watch the technique of the guy with the screed.
They have made this really cool thing called a straight edge. They do this amazing thing called make your floor flat. You didn't use a laser so heaven forbid they wash there car there will be some hellish puddles. And hopefully they saw cut that floor since they didn't use zip strip. If they didn't you will have Much worse than artificial cracks. The point of cutting concrete is to control your cracks in concrete. I know two things for sure in my life I will die one day and concrete always cracks. Therefore if you are an experienced concreter you can magically control where the floor cracks. Also the kid running the machine ran his pattern backwards.
Ryman Schlack I appreciate your concern, however, the floor is doing fine 3 years on. Any water, which is rarely present, runs to the doors with a very small puddle (1/16" deep) in one area around that port in the floor which is not a drain but is there for wiring for island equipment. They guys kept thinking it was a drain and trying to slope to it. A laser was used ahead of time to transfer lines and set the perimeter board. I can roll my equipment without an issue, none of the rubber feet drag going through dips and valleys like at my previous shop. The expansion joints were saw cut. There has been some minor hairline cracks here and there but nothing is opening up or uneven. Dust does not drop into them, you can just see what looks like a line drawn on the floor. I'm sure if I'd paid much more I could have had a team of concrete pouring acrobats show up and do the entire thing swinging from rafter to rafter never touching the floor while using 36' long straight edges to make the entire surface within .0000001" of level. For my budget, this did the job well.
This NOT how you pour concrete. You don't screed it with a screed on a pole like a darby (or bull-float, whatever you prefer to call it). No way that floor is level.
this could have been a lot better they are not picking the wire mesh up off the ground as they pour which basically makes it do nothing. They should be floating against the rod. And they are also leaving a nasty cold joint where the concrete piles up higher than grade. Obviously they do things weird in georgia. but hey It looks good from my house. Gl paying somebody to tear this out in 30 years because it's brittle and has spider cracked
Never happen, it'll be there 100 yrs from now. 4000psi, fiber reinforced and mesh regardless if it ain't in the middle and in Georgia, it don't get cold enough and no salt from the roads.
Looks like the whole building is about a foot too low, you want water to flow away from what you build. But good job with not over wetting the concrete.
+KarasCyborg The company did not charge for standby loads. The cost of a pump truck was significant compared to the project and would have added about $600 to the bill.
I was going for the unsteady cam view. Nailed it! It will be all the rage one day, all movies will be shot hand held to give it that look called "L'amateur". Millions will be made from my ground work in true break through cinema.
Looks like a very staunch floor !! Great job.
Thanks for sharing...we are building a house now and this will be very useful. Hi from Bulgaria :))
Thanks for the update, I really appreciate the response!
hey there, great video! wanted to see how the floor was doing now? (cracks, expansion, etc.) I like the idea of fiberglass in the concrete; do you know if it replaces the need for expansion joints and/or keyway? I'm wanting to build a floor that lasts, so I figured I would throw it out there... you seem very knowledgeable!
Concrete and Asphalt is back breaking work, these fellas are good with concrete. Enjoyed watching.
Don :-)
No need to wheel 16' chute high rage water reducer pour a 7 slump on the ground in 30 minutes pull wire up it's time lapsed if not you would watch this for 5 hours to slow
i usually nail together 2 boards in a v shape, as a trough to extend shute on truck. 2×0s or such, u can go as far as 16' with 2 guys one on each end.
Here in Ct, we use front discharge trucks and they probably could have reached most of the floor, but you work with what you have. Great idea with the board trick !!
The remesh works in the middle not the bottom
John Kodack wire mesh does not do anything for tensile strength in the middle. It is more effective even if it was not even pulled up at all. Know what your talking about with info and the engineering side of things before making a negative comment to someone else’s video or don’t even say anything at all.
Check the Wire Reinforcement Institute Tech facts for proper location of the mesh. They do not recommend at the bottom of the slab. Wire mesh is not for structural improvement. It is to minimize cracking and keep the slab together at crack locations.
Good! You can try using a concrete laser screed!
was the wire mesh just for looks?
1. You should be raising the mesh off the floor as it is pointless even putting it down. 2. A laser level should be checked all over.
I know from experience the back breaking job this is Good video
Shouldn't the wire mesh be in the center of the concrete?
Steve 1961P. The video misses them pulling up on the wire, but the wire does work it's way into the bottom 1/3rd of the concrete. This concrete is also fiber reinforced. It has been holding up well with only spider web type cracks appearing here or there.
***** When I watched masons up North doing a pour I always saw a wire basket type of thing that sat on the plastic barrier and held the wire mesh up at least 2". Some used hollow bricks broke in half to keep the wire mesh up in the center of the pour.
Watching them do pours here in Florida I never see them used. I do see them using a hook tool to lift the mesh, but they are walking on it at the same time.. It seems to me that it is sinking til it lands on aggregate. That just seems wrong to me.. I am sure there is more to it, but some slabs I have had poured here are not lasting as they did in the North. And what I have poured here has fiber in it as well. When they first started using fiber here they used a long strand. It stuck up out of the crete in some places and wore off kinda fast, but today they don't use such long strands. I am no professional on this at all, but it seems that was a better idea. The finer and shorter fiber looks like it could easily slip and not hold the crete together. Just my .02 . As I said, I am not a pro. Just an observer..
Wire mesh is suppose to be in the bottom 1/3 of the slab as he stated. However wire is not there to prevent cracking because steel has elasticity to it and will stretch more than the tolerance of concrete can hold anyway. The purpose of wire is to prevent joints from separating after a crack. Saw cuts control the size of slab from expansion and contraction which concrete will do. Fibermesh helps more with reinforcing the whole thickness of a slab and gives more tensile strength to concrete which by itself has very little. Yes everyone has a different way of installing concrete and most concrete guys look at this and say not the way to do it. However it got hard and close tolerances I’m sure in the end. I’ve seen worse for sure. Lol. So thanks for the video.
@@paulwhited117, Exactly. There's nothing wrong with this floor pour, it'll last forever.
I wonder how long it will take to clean off the splashes from the concrete ......
+Andrew O Built interior walls, left the splashes where they were.
Is the concrete floor being poured over a concrete slab?
+April C. Yes, there was an existing slab that was out of level by 3" or more and poorly finished.
thanks for sharing ....how much did this cost?
how long would the concrete last without doing a touch up also is this good if I wanted to use this for the inside of a house
+Aurelia Blakney I'm not a concrete guy, I hired this out, but maybe someone else can answer your question for you.
Ok
@@malazkm, We did this in a basement that had a really crappy floor and after 11yrs, looks like new. So, pour away, if you haven't already !
There is nothing harder than wheelbarrowing concrete. Well, I guess the only thing harder is not having any help, and knowing the "clock is ticking." My wife used to tell me to "take a break," and I told her that if I rest, the concrete just keeps getting harder.
These guys did a great job. I wish they would have ran the video at normal speed every now and then. I really wanted to watch the technique of the guy with the screed.
They have made this really cool thing called a straight edge. They do this amazing thing called make your floor flat. You didn't use a laser so heaven forbid they wash there car there will be some hellish puddles. And hopefully they saw cut that floor since they didn't use zip strip. If they didn't you will have Much worse than artificial cracks. The point of cutting concrete is to control your cracks in concrete. I know two things for sure in my life I will die one day and concrete always cracks. Therefore if you are an experienced concreter you can magically control where the floor cracks. Also the kid running the machine ran his pattern backwards.
Ryman Schlack I appreciate your concern, however, the floor is doing fine 3 years on. Any water, which is rarely present, runs to the doors with a very small puddle (1/16" deep) in one area around that port in the floor which is not a drain but is there for wiring for island equipment. They guys kept thinking it was a drain and trying to slope to it. A laser was used ahead of time to transfer lines and set the perimeter board. I can roll my equipment without an issue, none of the rubber feet drag going through dips and valleys like at my previous shop. The expansion joints were saw cut. There has been some minor hairline cracks here and there but nothing is opening up or uneven. Dust does not drop into them, you can just see what looks like a line drawn on the floor. I'm sure if I'd paid much more I could have had a team of concrete pouring acrobats show up and do the entire thing swinging from rafter to rafter never touching the floor while using 36' long straight edges to make the entire surface within .0000001" of level. For my budget, this did the job well.
This NOT how you pour concrete. You don't screed it with a screed on a pole like a darby (or bull-float, whatever you prefer to call it). No way that floor is level.
Shakey video is really difficult to follow and not a good idea, stand or tripod would have been so much better...
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Why did you put in wire? Nobody picked it up. What's with that?
musique
That floor is nowhere near flat rookies
Looks flat to me
this could have been a lot better they are not picking the wire mesh up off the ground as they pour which basically makes it do nothing. They should be floating against the rod. And they are also leaving a nasty cold joint where the concrete piles up higher than grade. Obviously they do things weird in georgia. but hey It looks good from my house. Gl paying somebody to tear this out in 30 years because it's brittle and has spider cracked
Never happen, it'll be there 100 yrs from now. 4000psi, fiber reinforced and mesh regardless if it ain't in the middle and in Georgia, it don't get cold enough and no salt from the roads.
Looks like the whole building is about a foot too low, you want water to flow away from what you build. But good job with not over wetting the concrete.
Illusion, no water problems.
How to guarantee you get the easiest job on a concrete crew? Wear tennis shoes to the job.
I never heard of anyone using a check rod as a screed. Interesting
they make sliders for the edges haha
LOL, Pump truck? I mean you had to pay extra to have the concrete truck on standby....should have just pumped the mud into location.
+KarasCyborg The company did not charge for standby loads. The cost of a pump truck was significant compared to the project and would have added about $600 to the bill.
This floor is definitely going to crack, did not pull up mesh and concrete looks a little thin for a shop floor.
Mesh wont stop it from cracking. It keeps it from developing wide open cracks and the floor looked pretty thick to me.
two words : camera tripod .
I was going for the unsteady cam view. Nailed it! It will be all the rage one day, all movies will be shot hand held to give it that look called "L'amateur". Millions will be made from my ground work in true break through cinema.
Watched for about a minute and had to turn it off, I was getting a headache from the stupid jerky camera action................
OK, no more 20 cups of coffee before making videos, got it.
They are probably so un leveled.. Not a good job.
+juan muniz Leveled just fine, floor still doing great, no cracks or holes.