Equipping Your 4WD truck. The Overland Workshop.
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- Опубликовано: 27 янв 2018
- Andrew and Paul talk about all the options available when building a truck for overland travel. It can be confusing and there is a minefield of marketing hype to wade through. The advice here may ease the way a bit.
Andrew St Pierre White interviews Paul Marsh in a series of programs of overland-101, the basics, starting point of all 4×4 overland expeditions vehicles and projects. This is part of the Overland Workshop series of videos on this channel, a long running series sharing knowledge about things overland and 4×4.
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I'm using Paul for my overland build as a consultant.- he is an absolute legend and cannot recommend him enough. He is super knowledgable likely to save you more than his fee in unnecessary products.
"Get the basics and go on a trip because only by going on a trip will you really know. And don't think you need all the "stuff""
Well said :)
My first trip told me I needed a 4wd.
This video's soundtrack is amazing.
Paul has such a soothing and calm way to speak. He should narrate audiobooks, for real.
That's a good suggestion! It's a very nice way of speaking many South Africans have.
Paul Marsh also has such a typical (English) South African accent. I don't think people get to hear it so often. It's usually the Afrikaans accent in movies, media etc.
Paul should narrate Andrew’s off road book
@30:10 "take more experience and less equipment" = gold! thank you
I think the background bird calls make this the best of the series. Makes me feel like I'm there.
Great sound quality! Amazing animal sounds in the background!
It's raining and I'm on nightshift. Time to relax into some Overland chat :)
By far the best content on RUclips. This channel is amazing.
The Well of experience is deep on this site. Thank You Andrew and Paul.
i wish there were more paul marsh videos
Great thing about this is having two experts having two different background and hence the different priority and view.
“More experience and less eqhipment” very very good advice
What a DUO, fantastic insight. Love your content Andrew.
Some of the best free advice you will ever hear on this subject matter! Thank you gentlemen...
I’ve watched this whole series many times. This episode is one of the most insightful of all of them. Thank you.
These are very useful pieces of advice for off-roading.
Thank you both for so much good advice and information. Keep up the good work.
All I can say about this is THANK YOU!!!!!!!
Thanks Andrew and Paul for another great video.
Great advice and some really good ideas to consider.
Andrew I have been following your editorials for a couple of years now & Paul I find your comments constructive, & I wish some of the accessories Andrew has in the Troopy were available 15 years ago when I fitted my truck out. I've since watched your latest video on improving the setting up your vehicle after completing the CSR. Roadworthy registration is very strict when it comes to modifying 4WD vehicles. I can speak from experience as I have a similar vehicle to yours albeit an earlier model Toyota Landcruiser (1990 HZJ75 series Personnel Carrier that I had a pop-up roof similar to yours fitted & has in the last 15 odd years, travelled over the major remote areas of Australia including the Canning Stock Route, Birdsville Track, Kimberly & Pilbara regions, remote areas of the Northern Territory & the Eastern States of Australia including Tasmania. I had to have my vehicle Engineer Certificated for modification on the roof & to carry all the excess weight [300 litres of fuel capacity & 70 litres of water & all my accessories], upgraded to 3.6 tonne & the suspension upgraded to take that load. I travel & camp in remote areas for long periods of time so my vehicle with all its on-board equipment & supplies had to be within the design specifications for legally registering it to drive on the road here in W.A. I had to do this for roadworthy & comprehensive insurance purposes which a lot of 4WD owners may not realise (especially insurance!!!). On my travels I have seen many vehicles which if inspected by the Police would never be allowed back on the road for exceeding the vehicle design limits. Aftermarket accessories is a multimillion dollar business in the 4WD industry but a lot is overlooked by vehicle owners when considering the design specs. of their vehicles. You promote Overland 4WD in your videos & printed articles & you have never mentioned (as far as I can see) these important facts. Correct me if I'm wrong but I would be very interested in your comments in this..
Brilliant series guys, great information
Well Done Andrew & Paul. Great advise and Spot On!
Awesome advice. Thank you!
I really appreciate this story, thanks guys !
extremely useful information once again.
As aftermarket suspension was a big part of the discussion & also long range tanks were mentioned, for live axle, coil sprung vehicles definitely fit adjustable panhard rods even if youre lifting just 2". When fitting a long range auxiliary tank to a Patrol GU with a 2" lift, the rear propshaft flange would have hit the tank under full flex. Fitting adjustable panhard rods solved this & brought the axles back into the centre so definitely factor in the cost when doing a suspension lift as there's many online posts from people who've wrecked sub tanks for something so easily preventable 👍
Excellent information from you both, thanks so much for sharing your experience, regards, Adrian.
Invaluable. Thank you so much for doing this.
As he said in the introduction this for people new to travelling the great outdoors.
Wow.....that was a lot of info. Great video!!
Excellent advice Andrew and Paul. Your advice is second to none. I’ve been going “bush” (yes Andrew, l’m an Aussie🇦🇺🦘👍) for many years now and l can relate to every point you both commented on.
I have many years of over-landing under my belt, yet listening to you both, l picked up “quite a few” good pointers. Thanks.👍👍
Thank you both for the valuable teaching and very nice talk.
I’ve got a pair of air springs for the rear of my Defender 90 which go inside the normal springs (which are heavy duty anyway). These air springs are manually adjusted individually via two valves on the rear cross-member so you can use your on-board air compressor to level the vehicle even on a day to day basis depending on the distribution of load in the back. I really like these things, they are uncomplicated and even if they were to fail it’s not the end of the world as you still have your normal coil springs anyway. And they are very affordable.
Thanks a bunch for the idea! When your overland vehicle is also your DD that system sounds sublime. Sounds like best of both worlds. I’m gonna look into that!
Two top operators.
Great advice. So glad to hear. Good tires, and take experience and less stuff.
That was very valuable and nice. Thank you!
Great talk.
So inspirational
Just what I needed, tnx !!
Nice video, keep them coming ✌
More experience, less equipment, will keep it in mind, thanks.
It's a real 3D puzzle packaging. It's good to have OX4 reasoning behind placement.
Thanks. Very informative. Coming from motorcycles and now the #vanlife type vehicle it is great to learn more about need and want for 4x4 overlanding.
This was a great video with so much to consider and some very relevant advice. What I would like is a food video for extended trips. I think anyone watching this can last 14 days, I would like some ideas on what lasts and travels well in that 14 to 30 day period. Not just powdered eggs and dehydrated peas but actual meals, any help, suggestions and menus would be greatly appreciated.
Now I drive a zook and have 6 ply tires, but I run no more than 15 psi/ 1bar ish on the trail and generally speaking I run 10psi /.7 bar. Absolutely changes how the vehicle rides and functions
for the ones in the crowd giving there two cents, not to bad, those birds know the deal 4xOverland is where to go for input on 4x4 ^^
Good chat 😁
Andrew, I would love to hear your thoughts on having a daily-run-around + Overland vehicle--a topic Paul touches on early in this video.
very nice advices as allways. still in the end it comes to every person what they need and where they live. you can do long trip but its not remote its full of petrol stations, shops and such so then you don't need many stuff with you. And many people thing they need maximum fitted cars for every trip even couple days long. what works for australia dont work for europe, still we can have long trips around europe and see many places, so everything depends first where you live, what you drive , where you wanna go. but no matter what you do tires comes first allways. just put tires and go for some trips to test it. take more stuff if you want, after trip you will know what you dont need so you wont take that next time.
I really think that at the end of the day, you’ll always find more efficient ways of doing things, and you’ll always make adjustments to your build. Having a good basic layout from the start that you can adapt is important. And getting the correct brands for the particular vehicle. For eg. My ARB bar is probably the best bar for my JK Wrangler. But I found the OME suspension was atrocious on the jk. (But Clearly good on other vehicles such as land cruiser) I swapped the shocks for Fox shocks and it’s 100 times better, but they may not suit LC. No one brand covers everything right. You need to speak to the guys who have experience with the particular vehicle and know how to sift through all the BS products people want to sell you. One things for sure, you’ll quickly learn to put you recovery gear somewhere within arms reach when the water is pouring in the door seals
Matt Thew haha very true, I learned quickly attach snatch straps before you go into deep water so you can get out quickly. I got awfully wet once and that was enough.
Thank you
Andrew can you please do a review on the Bp-51 , thank you.
Spare Tire: depending on area I would also think about 1 spare wheel + 1 spare tire. IF you can change by yourself, no issue at all. I a lot areas you can get to people able doing the job, but maybe NOT able to get your specific tire! Like 19“ ones or mine 315/75-16 which are not common in Africa.
A tire alone is half the weight! In my car a wheel is 39kg: 315/75-16 + alu rim 8“. A tire alone can easily and safely put by anyone from/onto a roof.
Brilliant thanx
First thing with your new 4WD is leaning how to drive it and what it is capable of.
These are great videos. I just bought a Jeep Cherokee with a Rough Country 4.5” lift. I think I have to take it out now. They don’t really talk about lifts.
Great video, loads to think about. I have a Hilux that is bone stock apart from AT tyres, we only do about 5-6 weeks per year off road but the vehicle is well kitted out with a steel canopy, RTT, front rack, water carrier, heavy camp kitchen, solar panel, aux battery, Engel fridge etc. (not to mention the shit loads of food and booze that always seems to be on board) and i'm about to fit a rear bumper with wheel carrier and jerry can holder. I watch this and think.....time to buy some suspension, Lol.
Anyone know what brand/model that roof top tent and rotating awning are in the beginning of the video? Thanks.
I know your vehicle is slightly different, as you can exit the RTT inside the vehicle, but it always seems to me that a 270 degree awning and a rear opening RTT conflict each other. You have to close the awning to get in and out of the tent. Is there an easy solution apart from having a side entrance tent?
You could save a massive amount of weight, complexity, space etc, by simply bringing biltong with you on your trips. You don't need a fridge or any kitchen equipment at all.
Biltong? Being uncomfortable is the lazy thing to do. And one doesn't need to do that either.
THANK FOR VIDEO AS ALL GREAT DETAIL ON WHAT LOOK OUT WITH ARE 4X4 AS SOME ONLY HAVE STATION WAGON AND LOW INCOME ARE WANT TO TRAVEL ROUND BEAUTY OF AUSTRALIA BUSH
Great helpful information. My rear tire carrier wobbles terribly! The manufacturer claims that it shouldn’t, but I’ve played with two other examples that do the same thing, including their own at an overland rally. Other people claim that tire carriers will move...but I hate it! Do you know of any great tire carriers in the USA?
Another trove of information, and love the nuances only experience can shape.
As a beginning 'overlander/overlander builder' in the heart of the colonies (US) I'm curious if running tubes in tires or using tubes as a repair for repairs tires (plus patches and plugs) affords any type of additional protection/recovery ?
A video on that would be awesome!
The background birds singing is so nice, is it real or you add it?
I often add sound effects in my edits, but not this one. Birds were all around us.
Pied Butcherbird, native to Australia.
Good video Thanks for the info..I'm really interested in your camping chair. Where can I purchase one?
Mr Adrew, are we gonna see an honest unbiased review of the Ford Everest sometime soon?
Plenty food for thought ...😁pip pips and carryon
One day we might get to see Pauls own overland vehicle...
I can't wait for this....
I hope so. I love his way of breaking down a scenario then bringing in his knowledge.
Hi Andrew. How about putting the Troepie's individual wheels on individual scales too see what wheel carries what weight. Calculate the Mass and Balance of the Troepie like with aircraft. I think it would be good to help tyre life a bit or so. What do you think? Thank you.
Nice comfy chairs that you seem to have. What make are them?
Is there a way to see Paul's rig?
What do you guys think the weight is, on average, of the gear and accessories added to a vehicle, Fridge, rooftop tent, recovery kit, extra fuel, 2 spare tires etc.? Thanks for the excellent content .... very imformative.
I know that Air suspension is classed as not a good idea but on our LR3 we take a spare front and rear shock , Ride sensor, compressor rebuild kit and a few lines.. my partner is a mechanic but he says anyone who learns the system will be able to repair problems on the go. We don't do year long trips but 3-4 weeks at a time over 2-4km we did iceland over 3 weeks all 3400km a ride sensor failed.. he replaced it before I were able to make a coffee. Is coil suspension better ride quality? because I have to admit it was very wash board feeling during our trip. We're going back next year to Iceland going anti clockwise but this time we're using an old L200 so it'll be interesting!. Great video and discussion, Keep up the fantastic work.
Depends on what brand of vehicle you're in. In my GX470 the air suspension is sublime and we pretty much drive really slow off road. We don't do washboard roads so the air susp is great for on road and off road driving manners. So far with our overlanding drive's we haven't had to upgrade. The springs can be better if equipped properly buy you don't selectable drive modes and you may experience more body roll. Its always a compromise. So far Lexus has done a great job and our air unit have had no issues. I have replacement parts sitting around just in case. I'm not exactly sure if we'll go with springs really.
I got an air suspension on my 4.5 ton US truck that is 23 years old! No issues so far.
Actually a pretty simple system and, in my case, MUCH more predictable than a coil or leaf spring suspension: I can carry a spare spring in the size of 2 Shoes. If the compressor is not working I can drive w/o. IF I got no air at all the air springs ride on their rubber foot, not nice but doable.
Installing an firestone air spring is doable relatively easy, because of their weight. I doubt that with a spare leaf.
Andrew put a comment to that loudmouth to his attacking you. have a look and keep up your good work.
Hi - great video. Just a quick question - when you say a range of 1,000km - do you mean off road or on road?
I'd say offroad as it's 'Overlanding' how often do you go on the road in a 1,000km? maybe 10%?.
IMHO I think this is too general: it depends on where you're going. IF you have no clue more night be better.
I personally would NOT drive anywhere I would not have an idea how far distances are between gas stations. Besides that 2nd question would be: only no gas or even NO people coming by? IF so there can be additional problems in emergency as well/ or worse.
In most cases it would be a combination of blacktop, gravel roads, bush tracks and off-road.
He needs to come to Iceland and see some properly modified 4x4 cars. Specially the ones used by the SAR units.
Every couple minutes I hear a metallic clink sound. Sounds like a zippo lighter opening. What is that?
For a poor man like me, buy a cheap welder, hit up a local scrap yard and build something. Weld the rear diff, no locker needed. Pack canned and dry food, no fridge needed. Use your environment for furnishings, no table and chairs need. The only real investment would be a good winch and capable tires. Learning bushcraft techniques will allow you to get the most out of the least.
What's needed is a device like a stretcher in an ambulance, to pull all the gear out at once, to free up the cabin for sleeping. They're talking about "security" but then sleeping in a tent on top of the vehicle? Not very secure.
So Paul let his hair grow back. No comments on that?
Where the heck are you anyway?
Comon guys, be more cheerful, it's not brain surgery, it's off-roading!!!!