BMW C650GT Highline The good the bad and the ugly
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- Опубликовано: 20 май 2020
- Thanks for watching, this is my real-life review of the big BMW ScooterBMW, the actual time was 17:27 the clock was showing GMT not BST, that's how long we have been in lockdown.
I have a '13 Highline. I'm convinced BMW would have sold a lot more of these if they just sounded better. I love riding mine, but I've never warmed up to the engine sound.
In late 2021, I got lucky and found my C650GT at a motorcycle shop near San Diego! I was looking for a new 2020, the last year they made them. Such a shame to discontinue this great bike at least in the USA. I live in Utah, so rented a car one-way to get to the store in CA to pick it up and ride back. A fun adventure, and 16 months later, one of the favorite purchases of my life!
LOVE my 2016. Got it for $6500 with 1400 miles on it. Absolute dream to ride.
I can appreciate your utilitarian perspective, absent the forfeiture of luxury. Bravo 👏 to the review
sumporfuk splendid old chap, these scooters are the undersold unknown thrill that most bikers will avoid, thanks for your comments
Fantastic review, man. Appreciate the insights and info. Cheers.
Thanks for watching!
Great video. I have a 2013 model & love it. Only drawback (I find), are the wobbly mirrors!
Nice look around the bike, cheers.
Thanks 👍
Good review, super nice Scooter.
Glad you liked it
My 2012 c600 sport has 60,000km now in Australia great in all weather, very reliable, servicing can be expensive is the only draw back. 60mpg to 70mpg on a trip. Only parts changed are drive belts ,rollers, and tyre's.
This was an EXCELLENT review. Greatly appreciated! Thank you. I'm looking at buying a used 2017...exact same bike...so this review was very helpful. Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!, let me know what you think when you get one.
@@SmileyoureonTV As luck would have it...I actually found an AS-NEW 2019 C650GT from a gent who'd purchased it for his 20-year old son...who rode it about three times. It's still under warranty and has ZERO issues that I can find. I had it shipped from Florida to Tennessee here in the USA. I used your other video to install a NOCO battery tender cable...thanks very much again! The scooter is great fun and has a MUCH nicer ride than the 2007 Suzuki Burgman 650 I once owned. Now...if I can just find a decent RUclips video on how to perform the oil/filter change on the C650GT...have you by any chance seen one? I ordered the BMW CD-ROM shop manual...but it'll be a while before it arrives from Italy.
@@SmileyoureonTV One more question if I may...I purchased the BMW Navi mount and ***VERY PRICEY*** but EXCELLENT BMW Navigator VI GPS. I understand you had your BMW GPS mount installed at the dealer. However that said, do you have any idea how they removed the black "BMW" panel immediately underneath the BMW GPS mount? Unlike the pre-2016 models...I don't see a hex screw to remove the panel as used to be the case. Thanks very much again for letting me pick your brain!
I dont mean to be so off topic but does someone know a method to get back into an Instagram account?
I somehow lost my account password. I would appreciate any tricks you can give me.
@Khalid Gustavo Instablaster :)
Hi,
Great review. I am on my second one - first one was a 2013 model and the actual one is a 2019! I realy like the bike. For me it is the best Maxi Scooter on the market. Differences from 1st series to this last one… mainly the transmission- much more effective and fast on the latest model, and the engine feels a bit more smooth and with a higher top end speed. Suspension wise it is also more balanced and with a better racio between confort and performance. The keys are also different, the alarm also different…much better in my opinion!
Regards from Portugal 🇵🇹 ✌️
Really in the market for a maxi scooter yet Honda won’t send anything to the US and Yamaha has yet to impress me with their offerings and I keep coming back to this one.
Totally agree, I love it, not going to part with it for a while, I think, with its highline indicators it will show up nicely in traffic too
Great review from an actual owner. I'm glad I watched because of some of the minor short comings and flaws. I do wonder if anything has been upgraded or changed since 2017. The shocker for me is the 12k price tag. You can get a Hayabusa for that much! lol All joking aside, that is a lot of money for a scooter. A very nice scooter but still. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for watching!
Theres 2016 C 650 GT Premium for sale in Southern California. Its $6k with under 6000 miles I think Im going to get it because of your review
You will love it and I think I’m going to keep mine as it’s super fun to ride and really comfortable
Great deal!
Great deal. Mine was over $10,000 new.
Recently purchased a 2015 with 2,800 miles for $6,250 that included a lot of extras like helmets, cover, topcase, etc. I'm very impressed and this review is accurate. I didn't have any surprises other than a lag on acceleration, but that seems to be gone or I imagined it. It could have been old fuel. This scooter is fun and it's hard to even call it a scooter.
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Great review 😊👍.
Sounds like a more powerful & less muffled version of my i3 REx engine.
The most comforting sound in an EV is when the ICE starts burbling away once you're 120 miles from home.
Props to you for riding in a climate as rainy as ours (Seattle USA).
Noice!!
One of the things I notice about this bike is the travel of the screen is adequate but the width is insufficient. By that I mean it doesn't seem wide enough to do the job required - that is to keep the wind off the arms and chest especially at the fringes. I have a Suzuki Burgman AN Executive which also has an electrically adjustable screen (I think mine is non-standard) that is also wider and thus wind is kept off the hands as well. I consider the Suzuki the benchmark of maxi scooters so I would compare any other machine to it. Whilst I haven't ridden the BMW I know what I like and what the Burgman offers in terms of comfort, features and ability. Storage in the dash and under the seat as well as a top box make the Burgman good for the daily commute (although it's a bit big for that) as well as a great bike for touring the highways. It keeps up with the big tourers and sports bikes easily. I'm not critical of the BMW I just like the Burgman.
I've not ridden the Burgman, but they do seem to be popular, now I don,t need to go into the office as I work from home this is just for pleasure, the wife likes to go into town on the back as its really comfortable.
@@SmileyoureonTV The 650 is no longer available in Australia. It would be fine for the occasional trip to town. I ride mine around town as well as on the open road. In my opinion it (the Burgman) is the benchmark for maxi scooters. I wish they were still available and I would like to see an audio system with a Bluetooth connection.
@@rogersmith5371 my favourite place in the whole wide world, could you have a word and reopen the borders please, I promise no covid here
@@SmileyoureonTV I'll try but at the moment I'm afraid to travel outside my own state NSW to may adopted state Tas that's got the best motorcycle roads in Australia.
@@rogersmith5371 we have friends that have just moved out of SYD to Mudgee, so with some luck we should be over to play, if not to ride across as was my plan for the channel, then just to spend a few weeks away from the mother land
Nice review. Glad you are not like the Missy Flyer as I like watching normal people.
Oh Neil, he’s very commercial and I know why he needs to not upset anyone, Oh but I’m not normal, we are all on some spectrum, if you want to see something send me some ideas, oh and you can tell TMF who I am and he might do a collaboration. Stay in touch mate.
Hey kids 😡😡 it's well annoying 😂
Whats the difference between c650gt and the highline version? And help
I'm getting my c650gt in a few weeks time it just says its a bmw c650gt 2016 year. Its got both heated grips and seats. And its got the hazard warning ⚠️ in the mirror arms
The corrosion on the outer rear casing might have something to do with the bike being a Kymco and not actually built by BMW still a good machine
no excuse BMW should make sure the quality is spot on perfect
You know there is an option I don't think you know about. Under and near the windscreen there are wing on both sides, that open up and keep the wind off your hands.
ah yes I forgot to mention that, surprised that they don't have hand guards
Bike Motor Works, Grendon. BMW trained mechanic, looks after my GS and any other bike, highly recommended.
Grendon as in Corby Northants or another Grendon?
@@SmileyoureonTV On the 509 between Bozeat and Irchester. Ian joyce is the fellas name, well worth a visit.
ED : Google Grendon Lakes.
@@hedgehog3900 thanks found his number, if I need him +447890085891
I put 70000 on my first one from 2012. And now I'm on my second bike, since 2019 done 25000. Very good machine, pitty the clutch is crap, and the engine is made in Korea! I've had 2x Burgman 650 Executives, 2006 and a 2010. But still prefer the Beemer!
Hi , how was the reliability of the 2012 one ? 🙏
@@nirdvorkin135 About the same as this one I have now. Build quality is good.
I have a problem with losing speed and that " Umpfff " as the belt and weights wear down. I now have 11000km on the original parts and I notice that it takes more time and effort to speed up.
If it was a typically unreliable BMW made engine you probably wouldn't have got half the miles out of it.
Engine is actually made by Kymco in Taiwan & assembly in Berlin Germany . Power train built to BMW specs. Kymco has made quality engines for a long time . Just feel BMW should be more upfront on where the engine is actually made.
Mine is a year older, but I love it. 50,000+ miles on it now. You said it's easy to get to the battery. Could you show us how? I can't seem to find all the fasteners to get the panel off.
okay just for you
Greg, send me your email and I will do you a personal battery video
@@SmileyoureonTV gpecaut@gmail.com thanks. I know I need a new battery this year and don't want to break a missed fastener.
I’m uploading a video just for you, it’s called the one where we show Greg the battery
Hi, Thank you so much for your review. What do you think about getting one of these as a first bike? I am just worried its a bit heavy and powerful for a first bike. Thank you in advance
It's weight is not something that should trouble you since your not going to be picking it up off the ground. The weight adds stability to the ride at freeway or highway speeds. I had a k1600 GT, very heavy bike but even I was able to move it around most of the time with very little struggle just using my legs.
I like the K1600 but its not a UK bike with all the traffic here, not good at filtering
@@SmileyoureonTV Yes I wouldn't encourage anyone to try, I've had it in heavy stop-n-go traffic for 5 hours, it was not pleasant. :) I wished they would make a c650 electric.
My electric screen
Stopped working?
Any idea help?
My cbf 1000 only lights up 1 bulb 😡 my vfr800 did both and turned night into day' 1 headlight lit is supposed to look a like motorbike to car drivers' both on could look like its a car but further away than it actually is so said car drivers could misjudge the distance when pulling out of junctions.... I get were they are coming from but i still think 1 headlight lit looks shite
Would love to hear about the maintenance cost for your first, second, and third service the manual tells you to get?
And how much bud the cost ??
I paid around 185 EUROS for the 1st and the 2nd. Not including a new tyre ofcourse. I'm afraid of the 20.000km service. Gonna run me close to a 1000EUROS I believe.
@@AERONOOBuffff back to shopping burgmans for me LOL
The C650 isn’t hard to work on if want in invest in few tools & spend some time in the service manual you can buy online. Must frustrating part is taking all the plastic covers off. Self maintenance will save big $ because BMW service will always be expensive . Learn how to do the work & you will save money . I did cvt belt & roller service for $ 225 in parts cost plus 1 long afternoon of time
I always liked the BMW600/650 scooters, but did not get one because of quality issues. Also the maintenance costs are too high. I live in the the states and will wait for Yamaha T-max 560 to arrive and will get that instead.
I was also looking into the yamaha, looks much better too, but they are only in europe and elsewhere.
are you waiting for them to release it in states or did you order it from overseas?
Thanks
@@BigV93 I called Yamaha corporate several times. Looks like if there is enough interest they may bring the 560 next year.
How about a Burgy 650? Why wait for Yamaha that may or may not bring the Tmax 560 to USA, but likely not.
@@oldtimer3824 I like the Burgman 650. I can't find one in my area. Also looks like the 2013 and up models have revised transmission. I just think they are geared more towards the needs of the geriatric community and not the young in body or spirit.
Goru Minosyan I have a giant Africa Twin in my garage, but recently had a new knee installed. No way I can ride my AT for a long time, a orthopedic Maxi scooter may be in my geriatric future for a while. Lol. Happy trails.
I love the look of the bike. Just wish it had a BMW engine in it instead of a Kymco.
Kymco builds to BMW's spec. BMW tells KYMCO what to build for them. The engine does well for a 650cc.
Meh, the reliable Kymco motor is the only reason I’d buy the BMW.
Kymco use to supply Honda with their engines.
I wonder why the Burgman650 was canceled.
It's a BEAST of a "scooter..." I eat traffic, cars and do it with my feet out on a comfortable seat...
I have a few front brake issues at the moment, but like you say its such a good bike for a tractor lover
@@SmileyoureonTV I've had some.. I think it's the brake lever... Going to get it checked out...
You do need to tweak the tension on the brakes for your riding style though... Each one is 1 to 5 on the dial...
Hey I just bought one of these. Only the left headlight works? does both work or is there a way to change it?
I don’t think you can change it easy, but anything is possible. I try to stay behind the headlamp at all times so it doesn’t annoy me too much
Any engine overheating on BMW c650gt ?
I live in hot country weather like 35+
No.
Hi i love your accent and taste for scooter. Could you record when you fill up at a gastation? Plus when you stop to eat? I'm willing to pay for both suggestions. .
I will try!
Quality here is sub par compared to other BMW motorcycles. I'd have to say for as expensive as they are I am disappointed.
You're conflating BMW with quality? The Kymco motor would be 100 times more reliable than a typical BMW made motor.
I also see a few problems there. Flimsy plastics, corrosion on painted metals, and many complaints about slipping belts and rattling noises from the engine. Now I got a 2022 BMW C400GT and while plastics seem to have gotten a little better the whole motor and drivetrain is produced in china - and it shows. I got three different unwanted sounds from the drivetrain. Rattling, Squeeking, Feeping after 3000km. It sits at 8000km now, was in the dealership a few times and things could not have been sorted out so only one year in I have been left with the resumee that this is just normal. I don‘t agree that this is normal for a 10k+ scooter after one year… looking into Honda now and trying to sell the chinese Beemer
What is the length of the bike & width and how wide? The Silver Wing that i have is 89"
with is 30+ in wide and about 40+ in high 550 lbs U.S. scale
do you really want me to measure the bike? or are you taking the piss?
@@SmileyoureonTV Measure the bike PLEASE Not in metric.
@@Ghostrider2080 sure if I must, in UK inches
Hello, if you could answer a couple of questions for me please. First, how is the suspension on rough roads and secondly, do you get any bothersome engine heat on your legs. Thanks in advance.
I have bottomed out with the wife on board but otherwise it’s adjustable, heat has never been an issue
with a passenger I tend to hit the road sometimes in corners.
With 1 Liter petrol how far you can go with this scooter ! I mean average per litter???
I feel I need to empty the tank and ride until it runs out 48-56 mpg‑imp (5.9-5.0 L/100 km; 40-47 mpg‑US)
I get 14.22 miles per litre
22,5km
You could have wiped the screen in 30 seconds 😁
Sorry can’t now I sold her
7:36 - that was some dumb government regulation thing, only cars are allowed to have two lights or something like that.
I am a bit surprised that the brake discs are so pitted after only 4500 miles, that doesn’t seem like normal BMW standards, even taking into consideration that you neglect the bike.
I know, shocking but it’s the salt and the winter use, still all new now waiting to go back out in the autumn
Can I buy in USA?
Yes they still sell them. But they are going fast. 2020 model is the last one. Or you get it used at cycle trader.
What year is this C 650 GT?
It’s a 2017 I believe they have stopped making them now
Sounds ruff?
That’s it’s superpower
Do you still own the bike
No it’s loved by someone else now
What are servicing costs
standard oil and filter each time, not sure if any valve clearances need doing and at what mileage.