Finally someone got it right!! thank you. Please post how you would transfer an unresponsive/uncooperative patient from bed to wheelchair. thank you again
@@evanmckay45 Then please take your comment one step further and tell people how it's supposed to be done. And maybe a second step further: WHERE to look for a better example.
Good video and production. However, as a note to students learning from this video, never have your patient wrap their hands around your neck. Rather, instruct them to hold on to your waist.
Jason Nenzel My clinical instructor a few weeks ago told me to have the patient wrap their arms around my neck and clasp, while my arms are around their waist/back clasped. 😓
Jason I would not recommend that, what if they fell in the transfer? They would take you with them. I think the pt's hands should be on their own thighs, pushing as they stand,
I need to see someone who is actually a paraplegic be transferred. Not some perfectly abled bodied person... I suspect the reason why they don't show that is because their technique won't work with them. This technique is only good for individuals who have some function. Let's see a video with someone who has no function... Thanks
I agree. I've only had a few training sessions with the person I am supporting, and there's no way in hell that any of these techniques would work. Paraplegics are paralysed and have no feelings at all in their legs, my client would drop on the floor like a sack of potatoes if I tried to move him this way.
I was very pleased with the information in this video. It helps guide a person step-by-step in assisting someone from the bed to the wheelchair. Thanks so much!
use of a powered sit to stand device is much safer way to transfer way to perform transfer from edge of bed to w/c. Use of a friction device/slide sheet can be used to help get pt. from supine to sit reducing friction and helping with pivot to sit on edge of bed.
Powered lift that helps a patient stand so the caregiver does not have to manually pull them up. Safer for both pt. And caregiver. You use a sling around their back which attaches to the lift.
Because if she falls with the patient, she can't take care of the patient if she's hurt herself. You may not fall around a group of staff that can come assist immediately.
The patient is already hurt. If the PT becomes hurt, that means they can no longer help patients and have effectively become a patient themself. That harms both the patient and the PT. It can put them both in an unsafe position. Training a PT takes over 6 years of schooling to obtain a doctorate, hundreds of thousands of dollars, plus experience on top of that. If a PT is injured, that means they can't practice effectively and that also costs the employer money. So, yes. It IS worse.
The correct manner in which to MOVE and Lift someone who is actually paraplegic is quite different from this video - You should lean them forward to you as far as you can and they hold you around arms or shoulders, depending on ability... Hard for me to put into words, easier to demonstrate; but they shouldn't hang onto your neck area. Your back and spine is very precious and you have to protect these, whilst lifting someone or anything really.
Any advise on if patient is unable to walk or sit up? I basically have to carry them...dont know the right approach and I'm a new caregiver with no experience. All other clients do the same by having patient wrap arms over shoulders, lift up turn then carry sideways into wheelchair to sit and adjust.
Honestly you have to get cases you feel comfortable with take it easy if there is another caregiver with experience come in a bit early so they can show you how to do it.
+Stuart Hill how can you put the belt on one handed ...? guess ud need another person there to hold them up seeing as we only have two hands...or get them to lye down and try and wrap it around them that way
I think she did okay if you know your patient has good sitting balance. She did not go far somewhere else where she cannot assist him just in case he loses his balance.
There were a few things wrong n this video. No use of the sheet in my class. BM was ALL wrong, moved hand off patient to put on gait belt and it goes on and on. My teachers would have a fit!!!
Great Video but per HESI Fundamentals for Nursing, "The client should be instructed to use the arms of the chair and should never place his or her arms around the nurse's neck; this places undue stress on the nurse's neck and back and increases the risk for a fall".
I was told not to have patient wrap their hands around you just in case they fall, you go down with them injuring yourself. I guess, every company has their own policies so read your company's policies.
+ryguyiskindofaflyguy its so hard....in class they asked to use your knees to support a stroke victims weak side at the same time trying to fucking fluently move the person? well they said no its not a move because your not holdin weight its "transfter" call it w/e the hell you want I do not condone one person lifts EVER < don't give a shit ...you could go into a persons room and what if mrs Johnson isn't feeling well...she was a one person lift ...a careless/ new PSW may be rushing and think well shes a one lifter- not strength test her/assess her ...than she gets weak and gets injured . I believe it should be a two lift or a machine lift period . It would erase all the risks / falls/ ect.. totally stupid . no need for It . Its not about " being stronger so I can lift more " what if something happens to the psw - anything could happen while your moving someone it just makes sense to have another body there until the person is safely moved onto there bed or chair --------------
what if my grandma can't move her feet at all and can't move with me, she also can't sit up right and help me in no way, she is very weak and is paralyzed on one of her legs.
Varying training and professional backgrounds - make sure you know your sources. As a registered health care professional, I can confidently say the video had errors for sure. Be careful when following directions from anything online without know the qualifications of who created, posted, endorsed the information.
Transfer board are only good for those patients who have some balancing skill and able to balance during sitting. Patients that are not able to balance, the caregiver has to control the patient's low extremities during transfer to prevent injury.
But wht if the patient cnt stand not a good looks in some case u jus of to knw hw to deal with the patient bcas tht person who u jus see in the video can move but wht about the one who afaird to get up and affairs to move I think patient who hardly cnt move need to ave two person to wrk around thm...no one caregiver ..
I am very surprised this therapist endorses aiding the patient in the technique shown at the start of the video, do you notice the trapezius recruitment of the right shoulder and the side flexion of the back. I would never recommend this technique, it didnt appear that the pt was cued to assist at all. Why not raise the head of the bed, at least to 45 degree. Who gets up out of bed from a flat lying position? Why not cue pt to turn on their side and push off to help the therapist? Isnt that how all of us get out of bed?
She should not allow the patient to put his hands on her shoulders or neck, because, if the patient loss balance, he will take her down with him causing injuries on both parties.
Yes, I agree with your observation. Although he did not entirely put his arms around her neck, but if he did lose balance, the tendency to grab around her neck will become a reflex to him and injury may occur badly on the therapist.
Finally someone got it right!! thank you. Please post how you would transfer an unresponsive/uncooperative patient from bed to wheelchair. thank you again
Yes! I want to see her maneuver a completely bed ridden patient.
Her demo is not good, I would look elsewhere for better demonstration/techniques
@@evanmckay45 Then please take your comment one step further and tell people how it's supposed to be done. And maybe a second step further: WHERE to look for a better example.
Good video and production. However, as a note to students learning from this video, never have your patient wrap their hands around your neck. Rather, instruct them to hold on to your waist.
Exactly what I was going to mention
I'm so glad I seen this post, never allow that to happen
Jason Nenzel
My clinical instructor a few weeks ago told me to have the patient wrap their arms around my neck and clasp, while my arms are around their waist/back clasped. 😓
Wow, that clinical instructor is completely wrong in that statement, I don't know anyone in Injury Prevention in Hospitals would agree
Jason
I would not recommend that, what if they fell in the transfer? They would take you with them. I think the pt's hands should be on their own thighs, pushing as they stand,
Great video. Excellently communicated. Much more informative that many others I’ve come across.
Thank you. Very clear instructions & to the point.
I need to see someone who is actually a paraplegic be transferred. Not some perfectly abled bodied person... I suspect the reason why they don't show that is because their technique won't work with them. This technique is only good for individuals who have some function. Let's see a video with someone who has no function... Thanks
Mark Machosky.. Agreed 100% percent..
So ture
True I have a patient who has no strength and also very confused so directions are not followed to well and he is 6 ft and I am 4'11" help
I agree. I've only had a few training sessions with the person I am supporting, and there's no way in hell that any of these techniques would work. Paraplegics are paralysed and have no feelings at all in their legs, my client would drop on the floor like a sack of potatoes if I tried to move him this way.
@@drdoolotz my mom has dementia and is combatant. I want to see how to move someone with that very limited capacity. This video was on no use to me.
so so so soso sososososo helpful!! thank you!!
I would NOT let the Patient place his arms around my neck as demonstrated here
I was very pleased with the information in this video. It helps guide a person step-by-step in assisting someone from the bed to the wheelchair. Thanks so much!
No lift policy
use of a powered sit to stand device is much safer way to transfer way to perform transfer from edge of bed to w/c. Use of a friction device/slide sheet can be used to help get pt. from supine to sit reducing friction and helping with pivot to sit on edge of bed.
+Andrea McKinney whats a powered sit ? im new to this just started my course...
Powered lift that helps a patient stand so the caregiver does not have to manually pull them up. Safer for both pt. And caregiver. You use a sling around their back which attaches to the lift.
Yes, but what if it is not available at the house or on your facility?
exactly - they are very expensive
How to move heavy patient from bed to wheel chair ?
"You might end up hurting a patient, or worse yourself."
Ray W shasha hahahah I'm dying 😅😆😆. Selfish bitch
Because if she falls with the patient, she can't take care of the patient if she's hurt herself. You may not fall around a group of staff that can come assist immediately.
Of course u have to think of ur safety first...thats human nature
Haha I laughed at that
The patient is already hurt. If the PT becomes hurt, that means they can no longer help patients and have effectively become a patient themself. That harms both the patient and the PT. It can put them both in an unsafe position. Training a PT takes over 6 years of schooling to obtain a doctorate, hundreds of thousands of dollars, plus experience on top of that. If a PT is injured, that means they can't practice effectively and that also costs the employer money. So, yes. It IS worse.
Excellent video.
The correct manner in which to MOVE and Lift someone who is actually paraplegic is quite different from this video - You should lean them forward to you as far as you can and they hold you around arms or shoulders, depending on ability... Hard for me to put into words, easier to demonstrate; but they shouldn't hang onto your neck area. Your back and spine is very precious and you have to protect these, whilst lifting someone or anything really.
What if they can't pivot? Please help
mama27f Then you can have a rotating board on the floor so you can rotate them. Works very well on patients with one paralytic leg for example.
Any advise on if patient is unable to walk or sit up? I basically have to carry them...dont know the right approach and I'm a new caregiver with no experience. All other clients do the same by having patient wrap arms over shoulders, lift up turn then carry sideways into wheelchair to sit and adjust.
Honestly you have to get cases you feel comfortable with take it easy if there is another caregiver with experience come in a bit early so they can show you how to do it.
Good video , it’s helpful to me as I’m a ambulance medic ..this skills is help
Thank you for showing this video is so helpful to me
If patient is heavy weight, it needs 3-4 persons to lift, thank you for the video
HOw can i do this when the patient is a paralysed patient? help please
Tabasco sauce.. Sometimes a hoyer lift.. No 100% truly safe way.. Very difficult maneuver..Just read the comments on all the "transfer" videos..
Any help with how to move dementia patients who cant follow instructions.
Never let go of your patient when getting your gate belt ready.
+Stuart Hill how can you put the belt on one handed ...? guess ud need another person there to hold them up seeing as we only have two hands...or get them to lye down and try and wrap it around them that way
I think she did okay if you know your patient has good sitting balance. She did not go far somewhere else where she cannot assist him just in case he loses his balance.
Apply gait belt prior to having pt in sitting position
DPT from #1 PT school performs transfer wrong...
My back hurts
great...good tips of course...knee position..wow!!!
our patient could not even stand or straighten his both legs. we are really having hard time how to transfer him to his wheelchair
Good
What about when the patient cannot move at all?
There were a few things wrong n this video. No use of the sheet in my class. BM was ALL wrong, moved hand off patient to put on gait belt and it goes on and on. My teachers would have a fit!!!
BM ?
Body mechanics.....
Great Video but per HESI Fundamentals for Nursing, "The client should be instructed to use the arms of the chair and should never place his or her arms around the nurse's neck; this places undue stress on the nurse's neck and back and increases the risk for a fall".
I HOPE IM ONT BEING OFFENISE BY SAIYNG HTIs but how does it feel is it to where like you cnat move your leg or if when you move it its painful
Great Video Demonstration!!!!! Just lower the background music so that your instructions may be heard clearly! Awesome Job!!!!!
Love it, thank you
Tq
Gate belt
I was told not to have patient wrap their hands around you just in case they fall, you go down with them injuring yourself. I guess, every company has their own policies so read your company's policies.
so when do you go knee to knee and when do you go your knees ourside of their knees?
+ryguyiskindofaflyguy its so hard....in class they asked to use your knees to support a stroke victims weak side at the same time trying to fucking fluently move the person? well they said no its not a move because your not holdin weight its "transfter" call it w/e the hell you want I do not condone one person lifts EVER < don't give a shit ...you could go into a persons room and what if mrs Johnson isn't feeling well...she was a one person lift ...a careless/ new PSW may be rushing and think well shes a one lifter- not strength test her/assess her ...than she gets weak and gets injured . I believe it should be a two lift or a machine lift period . It would erase all the risks / falls/ ect.. totally stupid . no need for It . Its not about " being stronger so I can lift more " what if something happens to the psw - anything could happen while your moving someone it just makes sense to have another body there until the person is safely moved onto there bed or chair --------------
what if my grandma can't move her feet at all and can't move with me, she also can't sit up right and help me in no way, she is very weak and is paralyzed on one of her legs.
What if there in pain
We wearing the same shorts
the knees gave way, the patient fell
how if big person and bed ridden?
This is almost all wrong! yikes.
what if you are smaller than the patient?
"or worse yourself" lol
The idea is silly. You can see the "patient" has enough strength to lift himself (about 100 kg)
Janeta Soltoian yeah really..my patient is paralyzed so this wouldn't work
Why not use a beasyboard transfer board?
If I have no machines,and the patient is like a vegetable,what do I do?
its uncomfortable to see that some people are saying this is a great video and others are saying this is wrong.. Why is there a divide?
Varying training and professional backgrounds - make sure you know your sources. As a registered health care professional, I can confidently say the video had errors for sure. Be careful when following directions from anything online without know the qualifications of who created, posted, endorsed the information.
Bad bad bad! Never let patient touch your neck!
This method doesn't work for a patient who has a weak back and paralysis of the lower limbs
My patient can't move at all. She'd just slump over
it doesn't work at all. it is not applicable for paralyzed patient.
this is bad
+Cameron Felts as a CNA i was gonna say the same thing... this was very sloppy
Why is this bad?
you can't even explain why so if I was you, I would just SHUT THE FUCK UP
as a PAT student this was very well done. I would have the WC a lot closer to the pt
Tshering Sherpa, "as a PAT student"... try this stuff on the job for a few years, or even a couple long shifts, you opinion may change..
super
That is correct we nead to see the transfer with a real sick people that can't move by themself like that is easy because you don't make effort
No!
Wny?
The aid needs to show her feet position. The correct way is to place her right-foot on the outside of the patient's left-foot.
why not a transfer board such as beasyboard?
Transfer board are only good for those patients who have some balancing skill and able to balance during sitting. Patients that are not able to balance, the caregiver has to control the patient's low extremities during transfer to prevent injury.
Sorry... but, that's pretty bad
How would you do it with an obese person
The gait belt is too low
But wht if the patient cnt stand not a good looks in some case u jus of to knw hw to deal with the patient bcas tht person who u jus see in the video can move but wht about the one who afaird to get up and affairs to move I think patient who hardly cnt move need to ave two person to wrk around thm...no one caregiver ..
I google “ how to transfer compatant dementia patient from bed to wheel chair”. There is no such video. This was not helpful.
I am very surprised this therapist endorses aiding the patient in the technique shown at the start of the video, do you notice the trapezius recruitment of the right shoulder and the side flexion of the back. I would never recommend this technique, it didnt appear that the pt was cued to assist at all. Why not raise the head of the bed, at least to 45 degree. Who gets up out of bed from a flat lying position? Why not cue pt to turn on their side and push off to help the therapist? Isnt that how all of us get out of bed?
Patient is walking.
not good
Why?
stroke Palient complete Paralysis ,that kind of patients how can shift
Very poor body mechanics at 1:21, definitely not best practice at our Health Authority or Province
What part of the world in reality no that's not what happen 😨
Shailon mistress 🥋
Build a robot to do this plz
Nope done wrong
May I know what she did wrong?
She should not allow the patient to put his hands on her shoulders or neck, because, if the patient loss balance, he will take her down with him causing injuries on both parties.
Yes, I agree with your observation. Although he did not entirely put his arms around her neck, but if he did lose balance, the tendency to grab around her neck will become a reflex to him and injury may occur badly on the therapist.
Where should the patient's hands rest as they're being transferred?
Around the therapists waist/below their armpits (along the torso - wherever is comfortable)
Why dont u demonstrate with a real paralysed patient
TILE.. TASK INDIVIDUAL LOAD ENVIRONMENT.. And yes she's doing it all wrong
crap
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Please use real disabled people. This looks to easy
E how stinks.
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