After seeing the glowing endorsements on this channel and others, I watched "Barry Lyndon" for the first time in my life a few months ago. It definitely lived up to the hype. Without a doubt, the biggest surprise may have been Ryan O'Neal's performance. I'm no fan but I thought he was great. I couldn't get over how much I found myself caring at times for such a calculating manipulator of others. I'm so grateful I discovered this film and now own the Criterion Blu-ray edition.
Barry Lyndon is my favourite Kubrick movie. Every frame is like a painting. It’s interesting that the main protagonist is such a bastard. I mean, it’s his story we’re following but you can’t really get behind him either.
My goodness, your analysis of Kim Novak's performance in Vertigo is one of the most profound, sophisticated, and illuminating analyses I have yet heard on the subject. You are in particularly TOP form in this video - quite brilliant in the expression of your views. Bravo!
In regards Kin Novak, her performance is astonishing. The woodeness your viewer proclaims she has hits me as a deep uncertainty underneath her mannered Madeleine which she has been blackmailed into portraying. And I am SO GLAD you noticed Judy emerging completely out of her Madeleine 'acting'. She even erases Madeleine's voice from that moment coming from the desperation and implications of what she is involved in and Judy's voice is finally approaching her truth.
Mom knows best- growing up she mentioned Kim Novak was one of her favorites. When I first saw Novak in a film I thought she was bad because "she wasn't doing anything," as I told mom. She unperturbably made it clear that oh no, Novak was great. As I passed through my idiotic stage and watched more and more classics I better understood Novak in her heyday knew exactly what she was doing by appearing to often "not do anything" onscreen, when in fact she had a great instinctive gift for conveying the subtleties involved in fine film acting, which made her a perfect fit for the complex dual role in "Vertigo."
I LOVE KIM NOVAK IN VERTIGO. Could NOT agree with you more on how the film would have been different if Vera Miles had played the part. She wouldn’t have been nearly as icy enough. Too girl-next-door.
Novak has 3 roles in my opinion. Madeline, Judy, and her assuming the role of Carlatta Valdez is another role altogether. Best acting performance in any Hitchcock film to me
@13:10: "Barry Lyndon" is not just the only Kubrick film I like, but the only one I think is underrated. Your review for "Barry Lyndon" you did around September 2016 was precisely what got me hooked on your channel! Yours and that from "Quantumjoker" were the only reviews of this film I was impressed by : at the time, everyone else on RUclips either never even heard of it, or saw it, and it simply went over their heads.
Keanu and Winona in Bram Stokers Dracula. Completely agree about Hathaway in DKR, thought she was pretty irritating in Interstellar as well. Kim Novak was perfect in Vertigo, mysterious and alluring, can't imagine anyone else in the role.
That Dracula movie is fascinating. Gary Oldman gives one of his best performances going opposite a really great Anthony Hopkins supporting role… and then there’s poor Keanu. Winona is just ok, compared to Keanu she’s amazing but compared to Oldman she’s like a high school sophomore in drama club.
@@bencarlson4300 I do like it on the whole, it's just flawed in that specific casting otherwise it's great, I like the traditional filmmaking techniques rather than CGI which was gaining popularity at the time.
Leonardo Dicaprio was stealing the show in What's Eating Gilbert Grape. At only 19, he should have won his Oscar then. He was also pretty darn believable as a troubled teen in Marvin's Room, and had to hold his own alongside Meryl Streep and Diane Keaton. Ooh! Catch Me If You Can is also a favorite. I feel like people don't take him seriously as an actor just because he's pretty. He had to literally eat raw bison, and sleep in animal carcasses before people finally said, "Yeah. Alright. Here's your award." My vote for bad acting in in good movies? Lots of children, unfortunately. The top pick for me would either be Dakota Fanning in War of the Worlds just for how much she screams there. And the girl from The Long Kiss Goodnight. I adore that movie, but any scene with the little girl kinda makes me cringe. I know it's understandable. They're kids, after all. I just feel like better choices/direction could have been made.
My problem with DiCaprio is that The Revenant felt like a pity Oscar after maybe a half dozen better performances he should have already won for. It’s similar to Pacino who should have won years before for Godfather 2 or Dog Day Afternoon or any of those great roles. Even DiCaprio’s later role in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood was a better performance to me considering how funny he is in that.
NO ONE better could have been the female lead in "Vertigo" than Novack. Haunting, persuasive almost siren like leading the Stewart character to his inevitable doom. When he sees her on the street later as Judy I thought he was insane - I literally saw no resemblance but as he, layer by layer, began to erase her, coloring her, like a painting, in the hues of Madeline I was astounded to see it was her. Vera Miles could never have pulled this off. Michael - SA
For me, I think of two of my favorite westerns: Jeffrey Hunter in The Searchers and Ron Starr in Ride the High Country. Both are excellent films that somehow weather these very lackluster and unsubtle performances.
There are a lot of classic westerns that have average to bad performances, especially from the younger cast members. They work because the rest of the cast are often old pros like John Wayne and others that carry the load.
Katie Holmes in Batman Begins Cameron Diaz in Gangs of New York Despite Django Unchained being my favorite Tarantino movie and Calvin Candy being one of my favorite Leo performances, Leo definitely overacts in some scenes. That being said the dinner scene is so fucking fantastic and worth watching just for that.
@@touchstonefan0348 yeah I kind of wonder how the movie would be if Leo and Don Johnson switched roles. I think Don Johnson would’ve been a better Calvin Candy.
Martin Scorsese never casts Irish actors as Irish characters in any of his movies. He even made a movie called The Irishman with an Italian American actor in the lead. The casting call might as well have said "Casting for Elderly Irish American Gang Member (to be digitalized de-aged in flashbacks). No Irish Need Apply."
Your comments on Hathaway & Dark Knight Rises, Novak & Vertigo, O'Neal & Barry Lyndon... I agree 100% with everything you said, I mean like I would answer very similarly... Vertigo & BLyndon are among my very favs too
I'm not crazy about Mulligan in PYW either, though it's probably her best performance. It's also funny you mention her voice because I found the hoarseness and her accent to be pretty shoddy. It sounded very much like a Brit trying to sound American, which normally isn't an issue for Mulligan. Also, where exactly on RUclips are you asking these questions? These are very interesting topics.
Haven't seen the Mulligan film yet, but you were spot on with each of these. I've always felt DiCapprio's performance was stale, (so much so that I'll often just fast forward to the DDL scenes), though I've very much enjoyed his performances in Tarantino films and a couple others. And as for Barry Lyndon, it's definitely in the top 5 for me for best films of all time. In fact, O'Neal may have been one of the best casting choices Kubrick ever made. I've often wondered, given O'Neal's general capabilities as an actor, (see "Tough Guys Don't Dance", ruclips.net/video/Y9KyBdPeKHg/видео.html), how Kubrick could see that O'Neal was capable of giving such an outstanding performance. What a risk, what a reward!
I wouldn't call Ryan O'Neal an amazing actor but I do think he works very well with Kubrick's very cold and "painting-like" approach in Barry Lyndon; especially when he acts opposite Marisa Berenson, their first scene together, with no words and the Schubert piano piece is extraordinary, probably my favourite scene in any Kubrick film. Interestingly, I have more issues with O'Neal as brig. general Gavin in A Bridge to far, precisely because it is an ensemble piece and he looks extremely awkward next to acting legends like Dirk Bogarde, Sean Connery and Gene Hackman!
- I disagree. Anne Hathaway is perfect as Catwoman. The movie, TDKR, itself was pretty bad though. I haven't rewatched the movie after the first time in theaters though I have seen The Dark Knight 4-5 times now. - Carey Mulligan was amazing. We need more movies like Promising Young Woman. I agree, the movie was so close to greatness. - I love Leo's movies and there was a period of time after Inception that I wanted him to win an Oscar. He is kinda fit only for certain type of roles though. But his dedication to make original films is the reason he is the last movie star left other than Tom Cruise.
His performances in ‘What’s Eating Gilbert Grape’ and ‘The Aviator’ are top tier. There’s plenty of danger in his performance in ‘Gilbert Grape.’ It’s a high wire act - just watch his eyes, his smile, and his body language. When you watch that performance for the first time you just have no idea how far out that kid’s gonna go. And Oscar gold would have been his for playing Howard Hughes if Jamie Foxx hadn’t received the role-of-a-lifetime in playing Ray Charles.
@@Shah-of-the-Shinebox Yeah, I never got the hype about her looks (yes, I'm a straight guy). Not ugly (of course), but I've never looked at her and thought she was drop dead gorgeous or anything.
Glad to see Ryan O’Neal get some love. Admittedly, he’s been pretty meh in a lot of forgettable films but when he hits it out of the park, he really hits it out of the park.
@@JoseChavez-rf4ul But....................the original comment ISN'T giving him some love.........................they're saying he was bad in the aforementioned movies.
I'm a guy, yet, I feel like a good percentage of male audiences often confuse yelling with great acting! This also goes for cruelty as a character trait as well. Is Al Pacino a great actor in "Scarface" or is he chewing scenery? Is Alec Baldwin's best work the monologue in "Glengarry Glen Ross"?, because I would say he was so, SO much better on "30 Rock" in his completely arrogant comedic role, for instance. Men yelling, like Jack Nicholson in "A Few Good Men", are the clips we always see but it's NOT the greatest acting. It's simply louder, elevated, acting.
@Anurag Raina Thank you for that. My gender-based comment was mostly reflecting my hatred for bro-culture. I totally agree with you that Al Pacino and Jack Nicholson are excellent actors (with enormous charisma on top of it). I also love John Cassevetes, who was a wild charismatic actor / director who trafficked in cruelty in his movies, or Lars von Trier, who mastered in cruelty! OR, Toni Collette"s enormous performance in "Hereditary", for instance. So I may be guilty of what I'm condemning. Yet, I think what I mean to push against is the RUclips compilations of "Best Acting EVER!" and it's always on a guy's channel, and it's always the same yelling clips!
Leo DiCaprio in Gilbert Grape is one of the best performances you'll ever see... but dang he never came close to it again. He was acceptable as Jack in Titanic but he was probably just playing close to himself.
He’s great in the Wolf of Wall Street, the Departed, Django Unchained, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, and Catch Me if you Can. Arguably Blood Diamond and Shutter Island. Pretty bad in Gangs of New York and hit or miss in The Aviator. Almost a blank slate in Inception, but that’s purposeful.
@@stewartkee6115This woman knows a lot. Leonardo DiCaprio is easily the most overrated actor working today. There is a big difference in great movie, great character and great performance. He might be in a lot of great movies but that doesn't mean he is a great actor. He is only suitable for a particular type of roles.
@@mohitrawat5225 You don't have a clue do you. Of course he is the best actor around and his filmography proves it. They are films that are dependent on the character and the acting. Thats why they are so great. Stick to watching Disney movies kid. You have a lot to learn about true cinema.
utter BS!! Leonardo DiCaprio is one of the greatest actors of all time.... It is as if he transforms into the person he is portraying.... Look at his performance in The Revenant, or the Departed, the Aviator, etc.... He isn't Leonardo DiCaprio at all in those films.... He transforms into the character.....
I never saw Anne Hathoway as playing very sexy or flirtatious characters until I saw "Love and other drugs" although as Catwoman I do agree that she is really laying it on thick rather than exuding a natural sexual confidence.
As a Vinegar Syndrome fan, check out Alley Cat. If only Hathaway had that heat. Promising Young Woman has issues, but Carey Mulligan is the glue, she is incredible in that role 🤟
@@1183newman the King is unfortunatly not a good film. Kind of a mess historically speaking, it makes no sense if you know history a bit. And the scenario is a bit weak. But Timothé Chalamet is a very good actor in my mind. Michael Stuhlbag is great but without the star factor that's why he is not enough talked about, like a Richard Jenkins if you see what i mean (i.e a character actor).
So I'm going through all the comments here and I'm shocked that no one has mentioned one of the most infamous of all time. Sofia Coppola in The Godfather Part 3. Not a great film by any stretch but her performance made what might be an otherwise fairly half decent third installment into something pretty mediocre and forgettable, just about saved by Pacinos performance (and one of his most powerful with the silent scream scene), and what's even worse is the juxtaposition of her death which is often noted as one of the worst shot on film. She fucking RUINED that movie.
@@benkylo8015 Yeah but the subject of the video is bad acting in a good movie, therefore she somewhat fits the bill. That's like saying a discussion about the best sequels of all time doesn't need to mention The Empire Strikes Back cuz it's so obvious and been mentioned many times before.
She wasn't the first pick either. Marion Cotillard was Nolan's first idea but she just had her baby, and though i like her a lot, i don't know if she would have been a good catwomen.
_Murder by Death._ Everyone acts badly, except Alec Guinness (who always acts well) but it's still a great flick. _Scanners_ Lots of bad acting in this one, especially by Jennifer O'Neill and Stephen Lack! But it's a great classic of computer-age-angst.
Kim Novak being bad/miscast in Vertigo is genuine bullshit. She absolutely sells that she's two totally different people, so much so that when she is revealed to be the same person you're surprised cos she really seemed like just some other woman.
Neil Patrick Harris in Gone Girl. He didn’t give me creepy stalker vibes, just kinda came off as low energy Barney from How I Met Your Mother. Odd casting choice
On PYW i didnt like mulligan either-i think shes just to mature on screen to believably play someone in that kind of arrested development. Its why shes so great at playing young mothers imo.
This might be an obvious one, but Sofia Coppola in Godfather part III. It feels so wooden and simply not believable. Every time she’s on screen i cringe a little
I'm starting a GoFundMe for you in order to provide either a barrette, if we get some donations, or a simple bobby-pin if we don't. Exceeding our goals might just provide for a proper top!
Keanu Reeves in Coppola's "Dracula" - of course. One of the worst castings EVER! Keanu completely blew it - and you can actually see that he knows he is terrible on his face IN THE MOMENT ON SCREEN. So awful in such a bold, dramatically and artistically strong film otherwise.
I've always had a "guess you had to be there" feeling towards James Dean. East of Eden is a great film for sure, but Dean.... Meh. Maybe it's because he's often mentioned along with Brando and even Montgomery Clift...clearly not in either of those leagues.
I think James Dean gives a great performance in East of Eden. He really came across to me as a kids that’s lost and searches for parental affection and approval with his parents being in two different world. His father being a very strict and religious person and his mother running a brothel. When he finally sees an opportunity to get that affection from his father, he felt he was being rejected. In the end what he searches for he already had al along
@@danielthenorwegianguy There's just something about him that rings un-true to me... And I don't put either of his other two movies in this category because I don't consider them good movies. But, I will acknowledge I might feel differently had I been around at the time. He obviously made a huge impact and if Elia Kazan liked him he must have had talent.
Jake Gyllenhaal in Brokeback Mountain, and not just because Ledger upstaged him. His performance came off like both Cowboy and Gay stereotypes, but half assed.
I'd rather have bad acting in a good movie instead of good acting in a bad one. A good movie can survive a few bad aspects because, as the saying goes, the sum is often greater than its parts. But if a movie itself didn't work for you, then everything in it is pretty much for naught. If a movie has great actors and fails (commercially and/or critically), it usually leads to those great actors never working with each other again. Film history sadly has many examples of that.
:O Also, how can you talk about Cat Woman and not even MENTION the masterpiece that is Halle Berry's performance?? Hear me out. That movie is a time capsule of sorts. It has the perfect amount of camp. I feel like it was underappreciated in it's time, but eventually people will see it for the classic that it already is.
Immediately coming to mind is Tom Hanks in Road to Perdition, don’t buy from his performance that he’s ever killed anybody. Think he was horribly casted.
Don't like to diss Keanu because rumour has it that he is genuinely nice, but I think he ruined the Devil's Advocate. The problem may have been miscasting though. I like the Matrix movies.
I have a problem with the Carey Mulligan hate in the comments. An Education, Never Let Me Go, PYW, Great Gatsby, Drive - all great. The problem is that a few other actresses get into her lane: Saorise Ronan and especially Michelle Williams.
@13:25: Well, for me, the scenes where Ryan O'Neal's acting looked very "fake" were : - where his character was crying over his slain uncle in the ravine - and where he's weeping to the fake Irish nobleman, the "Chevalier du Balibari" - I remember being confused by those scenes when I first saw the movie, as they looked so stilted and so obviously "performed"; but since Ryan O'Neal's character was the "phony" to begin with, him seeming false would've had an ironic truth to the story-telling. *Even my aunt and my mom* , when I showed this movie to them, *remarked how different* he was from "Love Story", where even "bad acting" could at least pass off as "casual".
Cameron Diaz was pretty good in The Box also, despite having a laughable "Virginia" accent (I live in Richmond where that film is set and no one here sounds like that deep south thing they were both doing).
@@patty1247 Yeah I liked her well enough in that movie. She was supposed to be a feisty young lass and she pulled it off with admirable style. I didn't even like her much back then and I had to give her points. The accent was hideous. Given that they were both born in the U.S. you'd think they would have allowed a softening of the Irish brogue.
I thought Promising Young Woman was great but I do agree, Carey Mulligan was nothing special really. She tends to get quite the praise, Shame for example, she was borderline awful in it yet people thought she deserved awards for it.
Agree with you on The Dark Knight Rises, and I find it puzzling that anybody would single out Anne Hathaway over Tom Hardy in that specific instance. I mean, come on, people aren't still doing bad impressions of Catwoman nine years later. First thing that came to mind when I read this video's title was Paul Dano in There Will Be Blood. Or, really, Paul Dano in anything. Intellectually, I get why he works as Eli Sunday, the insincerity, and general skeevy vibe he gives off all work for the character, but that doesn't make Paul Dano a good actor. He's a bad actor, well cast.
Margot Robbie in Birds of Prey. I havent liked her in anything but she really stood out negatively in that cast. Thats usually how i judge actors (especially actresses)-if theyre bad in something bad there can be a lot of factors but if theyre the only bad one in something good its probably on them.
Birds of Prey isn't entirely Margot Robbie's fault. DC/Warner just mashed up Gotham City Sirens and their intended Harley solo film and called it "Birds of Prey". The project was DOA once cameras rolled.
@@fattymcfatso1083 I agree, we was generally cold and aloof. That style worked in some movies (e.g., McArthur, The Boys from Brazil) but not in roles that required more passion.
@@goonbelly5841 Yeah. i was thinking about McArthur. I loved him in that. Some big magazine (Entertainment Weekly or something like that) ranked him as the #1 actor of all time. Kind of ridiculous imo.
A lot to unpack here. -- In regards to any character in the Batman lore, hero or villain: "Theatricality and deception are powerful agents." You described Hathaway as theatrical (she very much is), and though I'm not a fan of her Catwoman, she does in a strange way effectively contrast the more nuanced likes of Maggie Gylenhaal so I get why Nolan cast her. (You're right though: the 3rd film is made or broken at a more foundational level. I still think Batman flying the bomb to the ocean was a little stupid.) -- I wanna know if the guy who slammed Kim Novak saw the same "Vertigo" as we did. Novak was among the most realistic performers in 50s Hollywood; she was Laura Dern before Laura Dern was even born. This makes the cheeky dialogue in the first half all the cheekier on rewatch when filtered through someone trying their darndest to make it sound believable. -- DiCaprio's presence in "Gangs of New York" is accidental: the success of his career just put him in front of Scorsese by default. I commend Vicky Krieps for her relative chemistry with Day-Lewis in "Phantom Thread", but a force of nature can only be matched by another force of nature. Paul Dano will forever be Day-Lewis's ultimate scene partner due in part to a level of patience and consistency that DiCaprio has never displayed. -- "Barry Lyndon" has O'Neal at the forefront FOR A REASON. If you see enough best-of-bad-acting videos, you'll come across the Ryan O'Neal meme. His delivery is naturally funny, but in a way that only directors like Kubrick know how to truly harness.
Keanu and Wynona in Stoker’s Dracula
just watched RLM?
@@nicklauspangilinan yesssss! Literally JUST NOW!!
100%
I think Winona Ryder was great. Keanu Reeves? Not so much.
Joe Biden is looking like the older version of his Dracula
After seeing the glowing endorsements on this channel and others, I watched "Barry Lyndon" for the first time in my life a few months ago. It definitely lived up to the hype.
Without a doubt, the biggest surprise may have been Ryan O'Neal's performance. I'm no fan but I thought he was great. I couldn't get over how much I found myself caring at times for such a calculating manipulator of others. I'm so grateful I discovered this film and now own the Criterion Blu-ray edition.
The accent is garbage, unfortunately
Barry Lyndon is my favourite Kubrick movie. Every frame is like a painting. It’s interesting that the main protagonist is such a bastard. I mean, it’s his story we’re following but you can’t really get behind him either.
He's fantastic, he also did a shockingly good job in "The Driver." Not a fantastic film but exciting and cool.
Eva green would be the best catwoman she’s sly and sexy and evil looking while sweet and innocent at the same time.
I was thinking the same thing. Wish I had mentioned that.
I mean she wouldn't be michhele phiffer but she would be good if she was up for the role.
She’s incredibly underrated! Love her!!
Call me crazy but I really enjoyed Sin City: A Dame To Kill For. Eva really hams it up as the femme fatale to the point where it’s quite brilliant.
My goodness, your analysis of Kim Novak's performance in Vertigo is one of the most profound, sophisticated, and illuminating analyses I have yet heard on the subject. You are in particularly TOP form in this video - quite brilliant in the expression of your views. Bravo!
Shes full of shit.
In regards Kin Novak, her performance is astonishing. The woodeness your viewer proclaims she has hits me as a deep uncertainty underneath her mannered Madeleine which she has been blackmailed into portraying. And I am SO GLAD you noticed Judy emerging completely out of her Madeleine 'acting'. She even erases Madeleine's voice from that moment coming from the desperation and implications of what she is involved in and Judy's voice is finally approaching her truth.
Keanu reeves in bram stokers Dracula. Gary oldman acts his pants off and Keanu doesn’t seem to know what sort of film he’s in. Horribly mis-cast
Winona Ryder as well. Literally shakespearen level acting from everyone but those two
Bluuuddy Wuuulves, dude 🤙
I know where the bastard sleeps. In Cawfax Abbehhhhhh
I simply don't understand why they would want an 80s surfer dude from the Valley to play their Victorian Era British Jonathan Harker....
@@TheWaynos73😂😂😂😂
Kim Novak was PERFECT for Vertigo. Wow. Just a great, multi-layeted performance, that by the end makes you empathize for Judy as much as Scottie.
Next one has to be good acting in bad movies
johnny depp in black mass
Jared Leto in The Little Things
Denzel in a lot of things (including The Little Things)
@@ben9859 Couldn't disagree more about that! (Black Mass being a bad movie, that is).
Just about every Tarantino cameo
most of those movies aren't good anyway
@@zacharycaruso2935 any film after the 1970's isn't.
@@berserk322 snob
I disagree. I think he did good in most of the cameos, except for Django Unchained.
I don’t think he’s that bad. He’s not M. Night
I have seen you mention Barry Lyndon twice as I heve caught up on your videos recently. I will definitely watch it again.
Bacall as Catwoman is a good choice. Now i've got an image of Bogart as Batman stuck in my head.
More than anything Bacall had the eyes for it.
Mom knows best- growing up she mentioned Kim Novak was one of her favorites. When I first saw Novak in a film I thought she was bad because "she wasn't doing anything," as I told mom. She unperturbably made it clear that oh no, Novak was great. As I passed through my idiotic stage and watched more and more classics I better understood Novak in her heyday knew exactly what she was doing by appearing to often "not do anything" onscreen, when in fact she had a great instinctive gift for conveying the subtleties involved in fine film acting, which made her a perfect fit for the complex dual role in "Vertigo."
I LOVE KIM NOVAK IN VERTIGO.
Could NOT agree with you more on how the film would have been different if Vera Miles had played the part. She wouldn’t have been nearly as icy enough. Too girl-next-door.
Novak has 3 roles in my opinion. Madeline, Judy, and her assuming the role of Carlatta Valdez is another role altogether. Best acting performance in any Hitchcock film to me
@13:10: "Barry Lyndon" is not just the only Kubrick film I like, but the only one I think is underrated.
Your review for "Barry Lyndon" you did around September 2016 was precisely what got me hooked on your channel!
Yours and that from "Quantumjoker" were the only reviews of this film I was impressed by : at the time, everyone else on RUclips either never even heard of it, or saw it, and it simply went over their heads.
I completely agree with you about Kim Novak. She is incredibly mesmerizing in Vertigo.
Keanu and Winona in Bram Stokers Dracula.
Completely agree about Hathaway in DKR, thought she was pretty irritating in Interstellar as well.
Kim Novak was perfect in Vertigo, mysterious and alluring, can't imagine anyone else in the role.
That Dracula movie is fascinating. Gary Oldman gives one of his best performances going opposite a really great Anthony Hopkins supporting role… and then there’s poor Keanu. Winona is just ok, compared to Keanu she’s amazing but compared to Oldman she’s like a high school sophomore in drama club.
@@bencarlson4300 I do like it on the whole, it's just flawed in that specific casting otherwise it's great, I like the traditional filmmaking techniques rather than CGI which was gaining popularity at the time.
@@evoste I agree, it's a fantastic movie. And at this point, I just find Keanu so charming that even in his awful performances I don't mind too much.
Mark Ruffalo in Collateral. What unnecessary angsty nonsense.
Leonardo Dicaprio was stealing the show in What's Eating Gilbert Grape. At only 19, he should have won his Oscar then. He was also pretty darn believable as a troubled teen in Marvin's Room, and had to hold his own alongside Meryl Streep and Diane Keaton. Ooh! Catch Me If You Can is also a favorite.
I feel like people don't take him seriously as an actor just because he's pretty. He had to literally eat raw bison, and sleep in animal carcasses before people finally said, "Yeah. Alright. Here's your award."
My vote for bad acting in in good movies? Lots of children, unfortunately. The top pick for me would either be Dakota Fanning in War of the Worlds just for how much she screams there. And the girl from The Long Kiss Goodnight. I adore that movie, but any scene with the little girl kinda makes me cringe. I know it's understandable. They're kids, after all. I just feel like better choices/direction could have been made.
My problem with DiCaprio is that The Revenant felt like a pity Oscar after maybe a half dozen better performances he should have already won for. It’s similar to Pacino who should have won years before for Godfather 2 or Dog Day Afternoon or any of those great roles. Even DiCaprio’s later role in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood was a better performance to me considering how funny he is in that.
NO ONE better could have been the female lead in "Vertigo" than Novack. Haunting, persuasive almost siren like leading the Stewart character to his inevitable doom. When he sees her on the street later as Judy I thought he was insane - I literally saw no resemblance but as he, layer by layer, began to erase her, coloring her, like a painting, in the hues of Madeline I was astounded to see it was her. Vera Miles could never have pulled this off. Michael - SA
You serious??? 😆 As much as I love Novak, Miles has more range and would've done a much better job playing the lead.
I don’t buy her in it one bit.
I don’t buy her character either!
I think she’s terrible in the second half.
Loved PYW; Mulligan was terrific.
For me, I think of two of my favorite westerns: Jeffrey Hunter in The Searchers and Ron Starr in Ride the High Country. Both are excellent films that somehow weather these very lackluster and unsubtle performances.
There are a lot of classic westerns that have average to bad performances, especially from the younger cast members. They work because the rest of the cast are often old pros like John Wayne and others that carry the load.
Katie Holmes in Batman Begins
Cameron Diaz in Gangs of New York
Despite Django Unchained being my favorite Tarantino movie and Calvin Candy being one of my favorite Leo performances, Leo definitely overacts in some scenes. That being said the dinner scene is so fucking fantastic and worth watching just for that.
That Dinner scene is definitely my favorite scene from Django and I love the film, also the mask argument had me lmao
@@touchstonefan0348 yeah I kind of wonder how the movie would be if Leo and Don Johnson switched roles. I think Don Johnson would’ve been a better Calvin Candy.
Martin Scorsese never casts Irish actors as Irish characters in any of his movies. He even made a movie called The Irishman with an Italian American actor in the lead. The casting call might as well have said "Casting for Elderly Irish American Gang Member (to be digitalized de-aged in flashbacks). No Irish Need Apply."
@@alexanderg1297 Leo was amazing in that film. I killed imo
I think leo christoplh waltz and Samuel jackson outshined Jamie Foxx in the movie
Your comments on Hathaway & Dark Knight Rises, Novak & Vertigo, O'Neal & Barry Lyndon... I agree 100% with everything you said, I mean like I would answer very similarly... Vertigo & BLyndon are among my very favs too
Ryan O´Neal in Barry Lyndon? We are getting aggravated...
Yes we are.
I'm not crazy about Mulligan in PYW either, though it's probably her best performance. It's also funny you mention her voice because I found the hoarseness and her accent to be pretty shoddy. It sounded very much like a Brit trying to sound American, which normally isn't an issue for Mulligan.
Also, where exactly on RUclips are you asking these questions? These are very interesting topics.
They are asked in the community section on the channel page: ruclips.net/user/lotrlovermrcommunity
@@grahamh.4230 Thanks!
You really hit the nail on the head with describing Anne's acting
Long live Vertigo !!!!!!!! ✊
Great video Maggie and take care and stay safe 👍🏻.
Haven't seen the Mulligan film yet, but you were spot on with each of these. I've always felt DiCapprio's performance was stale, (so much so that I'll often just fast forward to the DDL scenes), though I've very much enjoyed his performances in Tarantino films and a couple others. And as for Barry Lyndon, it's definitely in the top 5 for me for best films of all time. In fact, O'Neal may have been one of the best casting choices Kubrick ever made. I've often wondered, given O'Neal's general capabilities as an actor, (see "Tough Guys Don't Dance", ruclips.net/video/Y9KyBdPeKHg/видео.html), how Kubrick could see that O'Neal was capable of giving such an outstanding performance. What a risk, what a reward!
Check out An Education and Never Let Me Go.
I wouldn't call Ryan O'Neal an amazing actor but I do think he works very well with Kubrick's very cold and "painting-like" approach in Barry Lyndon; especially when he acts opposite Marisa Berenson, their first scene together, with no words and the Schubert piano piece is extraordinary, probably my favourite scene in any Kubrick film. Interestingly, I have more issues with O'Neal as brig. general Gavin in A Bridge to far, precisely because it is an ensemble piece and he looks extremely awkward next to acting legends like Dirk Bogarde, Sean Connery and Gene Hackman!
Good analyses. I don't completely agree with all of 'em, but you did a great job stating your case, and kept things concise. Good work!
I agree with you about Kim Novak, she's perfect in Vertigo.
John C Reilly in We Need to Talk About Kevin
- I disagree. Anne Hathaway is perfect as Catwoman. The movie, TDKR, itself was pretty bad though. I haven't rewatched the movie after the first time in theaters though I have seen The Dark Knight 4-5 times now.
- Carey Mulligan was amazing. We need more movies like Promising Young Woman. I agree, the movie was so close to greatness.
- I love Leo's movies and there was a period of time after Inception that I wanted him to win an Oscar. He is kinda fit only for certain type of roles though. But his dedication to make original films is the reason he is the last movie star left other than Tom Cruise.
Hot Take- Leonardo is a fantastic actor and people in here don’t give him enough credit.
His performances in ‘What’s Eating Gilbert Grape’ and ‘The Aviator’ are top tier. There’s plenty of danger in his performance in ‘Gilbert Grape.’ It’s a high wire act - just watch his eyes, his smile, and his body language. When you watch that performance for the first time you just have no idea how far out that kid’s gonna go. And Oscar gold would have been his for playing Howard Hughes if Jamie Foxx hadn’t received the role-of-a-lifetime in playing Ray Charles.
Daryl Hannah in Wall Street.
I find her quite unattractive
@@Shah-of-the-Shinebox Yeah, I never got the hype about her looks (yes, I'm a straight guy). Not ugly (of course), but I've never looked at her and thought she was drop dead gorgeous or anything.
Ryan O’Neal in Paper Moon , What’s up Doc and So Fine is comedy gold !
Don't forget "Tough Guys Don't Dance" (OH GOD, OH MAN!!)
Glad to see Ryan O’Neal get some love. Admittedly, he’s been pretty meh in a lot of forgettable films but when he hits it out of the park, he really hits it out of the park.
i liked him in the driver from the 70s.
@@JoseChavez-rf4ul But....................the original comment ISN'T giving him some love.........................they're saying he was bad in the aforementioned movies.
Agree with you about Kim Novak and Vertigo!!!
I'm a guy, yet, I feel like a good percentage of male audiences often confuse yelling with great acting! This also goes for cruelty as a character trait as well.
Is Al Pacino a great actor in "Scarface" or is he chewing scenery? Is Alec Baldwin's best work the monologue in "Glengarry Glen Ross"?, because I would say he was so, SO much better on "30 Rock" in his completely arrogant comedic role, for instance.
Men yelling, like Jack Nicholson in "A Few Good Men", are the clips we always see but it's NOT the greatest acting. It's simply louder, elevated, acting.
@Anurag Raina Thank you for that. My gender-based comment was mostly reflecting my hatred for bro-culture. I totally agree with you that Al Pacino and Jack Nicholson are excellent actors (with enormous charisma on top of it). I also love John Cassevetes, who was a wild charismatic actor / director who trafficked in cruelty in his movies, or Lars von Trier, who mastered in cruelty! OR, Toni Collette"s enormous performance in "Hereditary", for instance. So I may be guilty of what I'm condemning. Yet, I think what I mean to push against is the RUclips compilations of "Best Acting EVER!" and it's always on a guy's channel, and it's always the same yelling clips!
And for the Barry Lyndon one, I always thought that's how Kubrick always directs his actors
An interesting topic would be favorite performances by non-actors.
My choice would be the two leads in Zabriskie Point, although many would disagree.
James Caan said the same thing. He called them cardboard and that it was the worst film he'd ever seen.
@@Shah-of-the-Shinebox I've several James Cann movies worse than Zabriskie Point . .
Leo DiCaprio in Gilbert Grape is one of the best performances you'll ever see... but dang he never came close to it again. He was acceptable as Jack in Titanic but he was probably just playing close to himself.
DiCaprio is the best actor around today. He has a filmography that proves it. This woman knows nothing about good movies or great acting.
He’s great in the Wolf of Wall Street, the Departed, Django Unchained, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, and Catch Me if you Can. Arguably Blood Diamond and Shutter Island. Pretty bad in Gangs of New York and hit or miss in The Aviator. Almost a blank slate in Inception, but that’s purposeful.
@@stewartkee6115This woman knows a lot. Leonardo DiCaprio is easily the most overrated actor working today. There is a big difference in great movie, great character and great performance. He might be in a lot of great movies but that doesn't mean he is a great actor. He is only suitable for a particular type of roles.
@@mohitrawat5225 You don't have a clue do you. Of course he is the best actor around and his filmography proves it. They are films that are dependent on the character and the acting. Thats why they are so great. Stick to watching Disney movies kid. You have a lot to learn about true cinema.
utter BS!! Leonardo DiCaprio is one of the greatest actors of all time....
It is as if he transforms into the person he is portraying....
Look at his performance in The Revenant, or the Departed, the Aviator, etc....
He isn't Leonardo DiCaprio at all in those films....
He transforms into the character.....
Was gonna say, Michelle Pheifer and Julie Newmar were perfect “Catwomen”. I’d say every performance in Titanic was bad, except for Billy Zane!
I never saw Anne Hathoway as playing very sexy or flirtatious characters until I saw "Love and other drugs" although as Catwoman I do agree that she is really laying it on thick rather than exuding a natural sexual confidence.
Glad to see you support Ryan o Neal's performance
As a Vinegar Syndrome fan, check out Alley Cat. If only Hathaway had that heat.
Promising Young Woman has issues, but Carey Mulligan is the glue, she is incredible in that role 🤟
I guess I haven’t been around long enough to know your feelings on Leo, good to know! And I agree
Timothee Chalamet in anything hes in
I think he’s good in CMBYN but the actor nobody talks about in that movie is Michael Stuhlbarg.
Only seen him in The King but it was imo one of the best performances i have seen in a long time.
@@1183newman the King is unfortunatly not a good film. Kind of a mess historically speaking, it makes no sense if you know history a bit. And the scenario is a bit weak. But Timothé Chalamet is a very good actor in my mind. Michael Stuhlbag is great but without the star factor that's why he is not enough talked about, like a Richard Jenkins if you see what i mean (i.e a character actor).
Kim Novak as a mannequin in Verdigo
DiCaprio as a mannequin in Gangs
So I'm going through all the comments here and I'm shocked that no one has mentioned one of the most infamous of all time.
Sofia Coppola in The Godfather Part 3.
Not a great film by any stretch but her performance made what might be an otherwise fairly half decent third installment into something pretty mediocre and forgettable, just about saved by Pacinos performance (and one of his most powerful with the silent scream scene), and what's even worse is the juxtaposition of her death which is often noted as one of the worst shot on film.
She fucking RUINED that movie.
I said that in the initial question. She is the epitome of bad actor in good movie.
Because we're all aware of how bad she was. No point beating a dead horse.
@@benkylo8015 Yeah but the subject of the video is bad acting in a good movie, therefore she somewhat fits the bill. That's like saying a discussion about the best sequels of all time doesn't need to mention The Empire Strikes Back cuz it's so obvious and been mentioned many times before.
And she's over-rated as a director as well . . .
Fantastic stuff as always!
Dark Knight Rises could have done without Anna Hathaway. She wasn't even called catwoman in the movie.
She wasn't the first pick either. Marion Cotillard was Nolan's first idea but she just had her baby, and though i like her a lot, i don't know if she would have been a good catwomen.
Jared Leto in Blade Runner 2049
Jared Leto in everything
@@merlinjames5954 you just don’t like Jared Leto.
_Murder by Death._ Everyone acts badly, except Alec Guinness (who always acts well) but it's still a great flick.
_Scanners_ Lots of bad acting in this one, especially by Jennifer O'Neill and Stephen Lack! But it's a great classic of computer-age-angst.
You'd be a good Catwoman!
she definitely has the right look
She set the trap and you walked right into it.
She is cute
Glen Campbell in the original True Grit.
Daniel Radcliffe as Harry Potter. Had to skip every time he’s in the scene.
Kim Novak being bad/miscast in Vertigo is genuine bullshit. She absolutely sells that she's two totally different people, so much so that when she is revealed to be the same person you're surprised cos she really seemed like just some other woman.
Neil Patrick Harris in Gone Girl. He didn’t give me creepy stalker vibes, just kinda came off as low energy Barney from How I Met Your Mother. Odd casting choice
On PYW i didnt like mulligan either-i think shes just to mature on screen to believably play someone in that kind of arrested development. Its why shes so great at playing young mothers imo.
Leonardo DiCaprio in Gangs of New York
This might be an obvious one, but Sofia Coppola in Godfather part III. It feels so wooden and simply not believable. Every time she’s on screen i cringe a little
I thought Paul dano held his own with Daniel day Lewis.
Repo-Man isn't exactly a showcase of world-class acting, but it's hilarious how bad Otto's friends are.
I'm starting a GoFundMe for you in order to provide either a barrette, if we get some donations, or a simple bobby-pin if we don't. Exceeding our goals might just provide for a proper top!
Agree about Gangs of New York
Anne Hathaway's Catwoman was literally the only good thing about The Dark Night Rise's. Imo.
You know who was low key great in Gangs of New York the other dude from Step Brothers.
Keanu Reeves in Coppola's "Dracula" - of course. One of the worst castings EVER! Keanu completely blew it - and you can actually see that he knows he is terrible on his face IN THE MOMENT ON SCREEN. So awful in such a bold, dramatically and artistically strong film otherwise.
Bad acting a/k/a "bacting".
I still say Sean Young would have been amazing as Catwoman.
i love your channel.
I've always had a "guess you had to be there" feeling towards James Dean. East of Eden is a great film for sure, but Dean.... Meh. Maybe it's because he's often mentioned along with Brando and even Montgomery Clift...clearly not in either of those leagues.
I think James Dean gives a great performance in East of Eden. He really came across to me as a kids that’s lost and searches for parental affection and approval with his parents being in two different world. His father being a very strict and religious person and his mother running a brothel. When he finally sees an opportunity to get that affection from his father, he felt he was being rejected. In the end what he searches for he already had al along
@@danielthenorwegianguy There's just something about him that rings un-true to me... And I don't put either of his other two movies in this category because I don't consider them good movies. But, I will acknowledge I might feel differently had I been around at the time. He obviously made a huge impact and if Elia Kazan liked him he must have had talent.
Jake Gyllenhaal in Brokeback Mountain, and not just because Ledger upstaged him. His performance came off like both Cowboy and Gay stereotypes, but half assed.
I'd rather have bad acting in a good movie instead of good acting in a bad one. A good movie can survive a few bad aspects because, as the saying goes, the sum is often greater than its parts. But if a movie itself didn't work for you, then everything in it is pretty much for naught. If a movie has great actors and fails (commercially and/or critically), it usually leads to those great actors never working with each other again. Film history sadly has many examples of that.
:O Also, how can you talk about Cat Woman and not even MENTION the masterpiece that is Halle Berry's performance??
Hear me out. That movie is a time capsule of sorts. It has the perfect amount of camp. I feel like it was underappreciated in it's time, but eventually people will see it for the classic that it already is.
Immediately coming to mind is Tom Hanks in Road to Perdition, don’t buy from his performance that he’s ever killed anybody. Think he was horribly casted.
I am so pleased to hear that someone else feels that Leo DiCaprio is not and never has been that good of an actor. Cheers.
Charlie "tiger blood" Sheen in Platoon. Yikes.
All the acting in The Night of the Hunter except for Robert Mitchum
I think Anne Hathaway just couldn't do anything with what she was given. It's a bad, bad script.
I always thought Cher would have made a fantastic Catwoman in the 1970s/1980s.
too tall!
@@fattymcfatso1083 According to the DC "Who's Who," Catwoman is 5'7". Cher is 5'9". That doesn't strike me as a hugely significant difference. 🙂
mulligan looked like she was about 65 in that movie. what has she done to herself?
Don't like to diss Keanu because rumour has it that he is genuinely nice, but I think he ruined the Devil's Advocate. The problem may have been miscasting though. I like the Matrix movies.
I have a problem with the Carey Mulligan hate in the comments. An Education, Never Let Me Go, PYW, Great Gatsby, Drive - all great. The problem is that a few other actresses get into her lane: Saorise Ronan and especially Michelle Williams.
Michelle Pfeiffer owns the role of Cat Woman and always will IMO. I love Anne Hathaway and Halle Berry but they aren't in the same league.
My $.02
Keeunu Reeves in Dracula.
Good one! His accent was so awful!
@13:25: Well, for me, the scenes where Ryan O'Neal's acting looked very "fake" were :
- where his character was crying over his slain uncle in the ravine
- and where he's weeping to the fake Irish nobleman, the "Chevalier du Balibari"
- I remember being confused by those scenes when I first saw the movie, as they looked so stilted and so obviously "performed"; but since Ryan O'Neal's character was the "phony" to begin with, him seeming false would've had an ironic truth to the story-telling.
*Even my aunt and my mom* , when I showed this movie to them, *remarked how different* he was from "Love Story", where even "bad acting" could at least pass off as "casual".
Yeah, the "fake" part is the whole point. He lived his life as a poseur.
@@fattymcfatso1083 So that means Ryan O'Neal was either a "bad actor" or a very "good actor" in this movie.
@@Suite_annamite Honestly I think neither - more like competent and well cast and well directed
Eartha Kitt and Julie Newmar were very sexy in the old Batman series.
I just think that Jack Black should play every character in every movie. ✊😏
Cameron Diaz was pretty good in The Box also, despite having a laughable "Virginia" accent (I live in Richmond where that film is set and no one here sounds like that deep south thing they were both doing).
I feel the same about Gangs of New York. They gave her an unnecessary accent there that ruined the performance that was overall good.
@@patty1247 Yeah I liked her well enough in that movie. She was supposed to be a feisty young lass and she pulled it off with admirable style. I didn't even like her much back then and I had to give her points. The accent was hideous. Given that they were both born in the U.S. you'd think they would have allowed a softening of the Irish brogue.
I thought Promising Young Woman was great but I do agree, Carey Mulligan was nothing special really. She tends to get quite the praise, Shame for example, she was borderline awful in it yet people thought she deserved awards for it.
Agree with you on The Dark Knight Rises, and I find it puzzling that anybody would single out Anne Hathaway over Tom Hardy in that specific instance. I mean, come on, people aren't still doing bad impressions of Catwoman nine years later.
First thing that came to mind when I read this video's title was Paul Dano in There Will Be Blood. Or, really, Paul Dano in anything. Intellectually, I get why he works as Eli Sunday, the insincerity, and general skeevy vibe he gives off all work for the character, but that doesn't make Paul Dano a good actor. He's a bad actor, well cast.
Funny you say that about Dano as he wasn’t originally meant to play Eli Sunday, just Paul but PTA sacked the original actor two weeks in!
He was pretty good in prisoners no?
Margot Robbie in Birds of Prey. I havent liked her in anything but she really stood out negatively in that cast.
Thats usually how i judge actors (especially actresses)-if theyre bad in something bad there can be a lot of factors but if theyre the only bad one in something good its probably on them.
Birds of Prey isn't entirely Margot Robbie's fault. DC/Warner just mashed up Gotham City Sirens and their intended Harley solo film and called it "Birds of Prey". The project was DOA once cameras rolled.
supossed to be bad acting in GOOD movies
Gregory Peck in Cape Fear (1962)
Wooden and unconvincing.
that was his style in everything tho
@@fattymcfatso1083 I agree, we was generally cold and aloof. That style worked in some movies (e.g., McArthur, The Boys from Brazil) but not in roles that required more passion.
@@goonbelly5841 Yeah. i was thinking about McArthur. I loved him in that. Some big magazine (Entertainment Weekly or something like that) ranked him as the #1 actor of all time. Kind of ridiculous imo.
The child acting in The Shining was pretty bad. I realize child actors can be tricky, but I've always found it particularly bad in The Shining.
A lot to unpack here.
-- In regards to any character in the Batman lore, hero or villain: "Theatricality and deception are powerful agents." You described Hathaway as theatrical (she very much is), and though I'm not a fan of her Catwoman, she does in a strange way effectively contrast the more nuanced likes of Maggie Gylenhaal so I get why Nolan cast her. (You're right though: the 3rd film is made or broken at a more foundational level. I still think Batman flying the bomb to the ocean was a little stupid.)
-- I wanna know if the guy who slammed Kim Novak saw the same "Vertigo" as we did. Novak was among the most realistic performers in 50s Hollywood; she was Laura Dern before Laura Dern was even born. This makes the cheeky dialogue in the first half all the cheekier on rewatch when filtered through someone trying their darndest to make it sound believable.
-- DiCaprio's presence in "Gangs of New York" is accidental: the success of his career just put him in front of Scorsese by default. I commend Vicky Krieps for her relative chemistry with Day-Lewis in "Phantom Thread", but a force of nature can only be matched by another force of nature. Paul Dano will forever be Day-Lewis's ultimate scene partner due in part to a level of patience and consistency that DiCaprio has never displayed.
-- "Barry Lyndon" has O'Neal at the forefront FOR A REASON. If you see enough best-of-bad-acting videos, you'll come across the Ryan O'Neal meme. His delivery is naturally funny, but in a way that only directors like Kubrick know how to truly harness.
Barry Lyndon is great and the main guy is just fine
Jamie Foxx in Django Unchained
I know ill get hate, but Mark Hamil really hammed up his performance in the first Star Wars.