Sociologist Weber said that working for a protestant is a form asceticism, I have to agree with that, I mean majority of Pastors view work as a way of life.
I have a question. Yes we are called to work. But how much? We are to be good husbands or wives to our family, we are to be involved in the Church commumity, outreach and then there is daily life. So, how much are we to be working? 40 hrs? 80? 30? When you read Acts 2:41-47 " work" as we know it ie 9-5 is not mentiond. So, I am asking this from a biblical NT perspective, how much are we to work.
You don't count the number of hours. At best you do EVERYTHING to honour god and give glory to him. And he will give you the strength to do it, through his holy spirit. Being a good Husband or Wife, isn't that natural to do what is best for the family? So I don't really see that as work. Church Community? Did you know that Church just means a gathering of people? So you can just go to someone and pray for him! It can be a little bit scary but you will see that you can do it anywhere and anytime. Also Jesus didn't just go to the people in church. But also to those who needed it the most and that is what is even more important. So to sum it up, I think you could say work for god 24/7. But don't see it as work because you will be much more rewarded than you could ever immagine and what is a lifetimes work compared to eternal happiness? I hope this helps a little. God bless you.
I believe what our friend is referring to here is the frantic pace and intensity of many jobs these days where making a living is enough to wring a person completely out. Many of the people with whom I have spoken have found the demands of a job- coupled with professional development- alongside the deliberate actions of growing in holiness in order to facilitate being a godly husband and father added to the preparation time involved in participating in or teaching a Sunday School class AND Bible study AND Wednesday night... it can all be too much. Then the leadership asks why the congregants aren't evangelizing, serving charitably outside the church and discipling those inside the church. THEN commute time! So it's not 'counting hours' any of us are concerned about, it is the simple fact of having only so many hours in the week.
This teaching is on; 1 Corinthians 15:10 1 Corinthians 15:10. But by the grace of God I am what I am, and His grace toward me did not prove vain; but I labored even more than all of them, yet not I, but the grace of God with me. In context Paul is comparing himself to the rest of the Apostles. 1 Corinthians 15:9 For I am the least of the apostles, and not fit to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God. He is comparing his labor into preaching the GOSPEL to the labor of the other apostles doing the same. This passage has nothing to add to the discussion about a Christians daily labor at his job or career. If it does then what it says is that Paul worked to support his ministry. It says that ministry was first and consumed the majority of his time and in his non-ministry time he labored for his own support to preach the Gospel. It says he offered himself up as a living sacrifice. Tent making was never first or even equal. It was Paul's means to an end. If your labor is consuming you and you can't or don't go into all the world and preach the gospel you are probably busier than Father wants you. Colossians 1:28 We proclaim Him, admonishing every man and teaching every man with all wisdom, so that we may present every man complete (perfect) in Christ. 29 For this purpose also I labor, striving according to His power which mightily works within me.
"Tentmaking was never first or even equal." Neither does John make this claim. I see the point you're making about how someone can be too busy with their daily labor to advance the gospel, but I don't think you need to make that point by way of refuting John's. All of our labor done for God with all of our hearts is by way of God's grace at work within us, and so any boasting is excluded. At the same time, get your priorities right, seek God's kingdom and righteousness. Don't get carried away with what the world seeks after. Stay the course.
Excellent. Except the new testament does not teach that every believer is to go out into all the world and preach the gospel. It does however, instruct us to be a witness wherever we are, including the workplace. Everything we do, no matter how seemingly insignificant, is to be done for the glory of God. With all our heart, mind, and strength.
On the contrary, the divine mission of mankind to subdue the earth for human good has brought prosperity, wealth and health to mankind like NEVER before. And, for a good part, this is the fruit of biblical work ethics, which was recovered by the Reformation.
@@jawanzadiame7501 Christianity abolished slavery, muslims still have slaves and sex slaves. Colonialism is hugely over-exaggerated, African kings traded slaves for gunpowder. "Colonialism" only raised living standards in every "colonized" place.
in·dus·try /ˈindəstrē/ noun 1. economic activity concerned with the processing of raw materials and manufacture of goods in factories. "the competitiveness of American industry" Similar: manufacturing production fabrication construction 2. HARD WORK. "the kitchen became a hive of industry" You decide which defintion he was referring to. I believe it was #2. It changes everything.
Thank you Pastor John. I've been blessed by your teachings all these years. You have tought me to contemplate the glory of Jesús in the gospel.
God blesses PIPER
I love this so much.
Sociologist Weber said that working for a protestant is a form asceticism, I have to agree with that, I mean majority of Pastors view work as a way of life.
I have a question.
Yes we are called to work. But how much? We are to be good husbands or wives to our family, we are to be involved in the Church commumity, outreach and then there is daily life. So, how much are we to be working? 40 hrs? 80? 30?
When you read Acts 2:41-47 " work" as we know it ie 9-5 is not mentiond. So, I am asking this from a biblical NT perspective, how much are we to work.
You don't count the number of hours. At best you do EVERYTHING to honour god and give glory to him.
And he will give you the strength to do it, through his holy spirit.
Being a good Husband or Wife, isn't that natural to do what is best for the family? So I don't really see that as work.
Church Community? Did you know that Church just means a gathering of people? So you can just go to someone and pray for him! It can be a little bit scary but you will see that you can do it anywhere and anytime. Also Jesus didn't just go to the people in church. But also to those who needed it the most and that is what is even more important.
So to sum it up, I think you could say work for god 24/7. But don't see it as work because you will be much more rewarded than you could ever immagine and what is a lifetimes work compared to eternal happiness?
I hope this helps a little. God bless you.
I believe what our friend is referring to here is the frantic pace and intensity of many jobs these days where making a living is enough to wring a person completely out. Many of the people with whom I have spoken have found the demands of a job- coupled with professional development- alongside the deliberate actions of growing in holiness in order to facilitate being a godly husband and father added to the preparation time involved in participating in or teaching a Sunday School class AND Bible study AND Wednesday night... it can all be too much. Then the leadership asks why the congregants aren't evangelizing, serving charitably outside the church and discipling those inside the church. THEN commute time!
So it's not 'counting hours' any of us are concerned about, it is the simple fact of having only so many hours in the week.
ruclips.net/video/VbJKQk2bLj4/видео.html
This teaching is on; 1 Corinthians 15:10
1 Corinthians 15:10. But by the grace of God I am what I am, and His grace toward me did not prove vain; but I labored even more than all of them, yet not I, but the grace of God with me.
In context Paul is comparing himself to the rest of the Apostles.
1 Corinthians 15:9 For I am the least of the apostles, and not fit to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God.
He is comparing his labor into preaching the GOSPEL to the labor of the other apostles doing the same. This passage has nothing to add to the discussion about a Christians daily labor at his job or career. If it does then what it says is that Paul worked to support his ministry. It says that ministry was first and consumed the majority of his time and in his non-ministry time he labored for his own support to preach the Gospel. It says he offered himself up as a living sacrifice. Tent making was never first or even equal. It was Paul's means to an end. If your labor is consuming you and you can't or don't go into all the world and preach the gospel you are probably busier than Father wants you.
Colossians 1:28 We proclaim Him, admonishing every man and teaching every man with all wisdom, so that we may present every man complete (perfect) in Christ. 29 For this purpose also I labor, striving according to His power which mightily works within me.
So a Christian doesn't work his or her daily job by the means of God's grace?
"Tentmaking was never first or even equal."
Neither does John make this claim. I see the point you're making about how someone can be too busy with their daily labor to advance the gospel, but I don't think you need to make that point by way of refuting John's. All of our labor done for God with all of our hearts is by way of God's grace at work within us, and so any boasting is excluded. At the same time, get your priorities right, seek God's kingdom and righteousness. Don't get carried away with what the world seeks after. Stay the course.
Excellent. Except the new testament does not teach that every believer is to go out into all the world and preach the gospel. It does however, instruct us to be a witness wherever we are, including the workplace. Everything we do, no matter how seemingly insignificant, is to be done for the glory of God. With all our heart, mind, and strength.
What sermon is this from?
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I don’t agree with this.
Why?
"Take away the quest for ego satisfaction" like your best friend John McArthur? got it.
Nice little ad hominem there, Doug. 👍🏼
No, it's called genocidal, earth raping greed.
jimhere1 With a touch of slavery and a dash of colonialism...
@@waynv1835 It's the same thing for all the countries that as a rule follow the doctrine of unequal exchange.
On the contrary, the divine mission of mankind to subdue the earth for human good has brought prosperity, wealth and health to mankind like NEVER before. And, for a good part, this is the fruit of biblical work ethics, which was recovered by the Reformation.
@@jawanzadiame7501 Christianity abolished slavery, muslims still have slaves and sex slaves. Colonialism is hugely over-exaggerated, African kings traded slaves for gunpowder.
"Colonialism" only raised living standards in every "colonized" place.
That's only the 0.1% doing it. And those 0.1% are not christian I'll tell you that... Hint: They wear little hats, and their flag is the star of david
in·dus·try
/ˈindəstrē/
noun
1. economic activity concerned with the processing of raw materials and manufacture of goods in factories.
"the competitiveness of American industry"
Similar:
manufacturing
production
fabrication
construction
2. HARD WORK.
"the kitchen became a hive of industry"
You decide which defintion he was referring to. I believe it was #2. It changes everything.