At the time DJ signed his contract for 80 million guaranteed, I said at the time that he would have to win games or make big plays or he would be gone, but to say last night was ALL DJ's fault is ABSURD, THE GAME PLAN was TRASH, the RUNNING GAME was a DISASTER, and the WEAK PASS RUSH didn't make DAK pay!!!!!!
Jones has PTSD from being sacked 10 million times. He's expecting to get sacked when he drops back. He'll get used to the new o line protection and settle down. Already on his way too.
I would never abandon the Giants but the only thing that is somewhat exciting to watch is Nabers I'm ready for the draft and hopefully they can get their quarterback
It’s daboll fault that jones can’t hit a deep shot? He left 2-3 tds on the field last night. Under throwing Nabers and slayton. It’s the most important position in sports and our guy isn’t any good. We have 6 years of evidence at this point.
Yes and it was Daboll and the GM who chose to pay Jones and not Saquan who is already putting up MVP numbers in Philly and carrying that team since Hurts is not playing well and AJ Brown has been injured They made that choice and every fan and local media personality agreed. Schumer, Macadoo, Joe Judge all the same crap. The owners are incompetent but everyone is afraid to call it out. Not me!
It was a frustration game to many drop passes we coudnt get a lot of pressure on Dak. Nebars was awesome as usual. Great video as always tuff loss i saw some good things season is not over lets focus on Seattle and get a dub go Gmen. Keep up ypur great work Ptrain go Gmen. 😊
Everyone needs to relax. The Cowboys blew us out twice last year. Tremendous beatings We just went punch for punch with them Our time is next year If we were close, Schoen would have kept Saquoun. We are a year away from being really good. Our QB just can’t throw deep. The defense and the OL is playing great. Nabers and Robinson are awesome. We’re young and cap is in great shape DJ is playing well enough to play a few games while the kid sits
The only reason the ST’s have not suffered a TD run back is because we don’t allow any run backs. We give them the ball on the 30, to avoid having to tackle anyone.
Daboll playing conservative is going to cost him his job! Let it all hang out.. Trade Slayton and let the young guns run wild. He threw Theo Johnson to the wolves as a rookie why not throw Hyatt in there, at least he has a yr under his belt
A problem is that the media allows Daboll to get away with generalities, and doesn’t press him on specifics. As you are saying. “ her coach: give us one specific where you see regular improvement” ( he would probably say the FG kicker).
We get 10 minutes a day with Daboll except Tuesday and Saturday. There are like 20 reporters on a call or there on any given day and at least a third are TV. I’m not sure what you expect. The questions get asked but if the guy refuses to answer what do you propose we do?
What you seem to forget is that the owner cannot be fired. So let's say for argument's sake Schoen and Daboll were not the right hires (and I don't believe that right now, BTW). It's not as though fans can demand a change at ownership. And knowing what I know about John Mara, I know he struggles with wanting to DESPERATELY win and being patient.
No you are wrong. The fans can demand a change or put pressure on owners by not buying tickets to this trash. Money has more power than anything in this world. If you went to a restaurant and the service or food was bad you wouldn't take it all out on the waiters or cooks would you? No like everyone you would complain to the manager or owner bec they are overall responsible for the hires. Plus you would no longer eat there correct? The knicks, Giants, Jets and Yankees continue to sell out gms but thet cannot never deliver a championship team. Why bec there is absolutely no pressure on the front offices as long as huge revenues continue to rack up. Put the spotlight on them for a change. @LockedOnGiantsNFL
No effort... That was unwatchable against the Eagles..Now are you still going to say the GM and HC should not be fired? The season is already over again! Wake up to reality.
Jones has problems processing and going thru his reads. Maybe Daboll is giving Jones the improper sequence of reads. Maybe he has to change his read sequences…for some reason when I watch Jones he does not look deliberate when he drops back. By the time he “decides” to throw the long ball the play is lost and he under throws it. This whole process sucks. And can we get some effective blocking schemes depending on the front….please?
Daniel Jones has thrown interceptions in every game this year. Granted some of them were called back because of penalties. But none the less he threw them in every game this year. Daniel Jones continues to struggle going into year 6 as a starting QB. He continues to struggle with not processing fast enough, hesitating on throws, not being able to throw an accurate deep ball despite having an 0-Line that gives him plenty of time to do so, not being cable of elevating this team, and again, consistently throwing interceptions whether they are called back or not because of penalties. Defenses know what Daniel Jones is going to do before he does it. They have a jump on him because he stares his first read down. It's time to bench Daniel Jones and ride out the rest of the year with Tommy Devito, who in my opinion based on his play is a better QB than Daniel Jones and Drew Lock. That's not to say that Tommy is the longterm solution moving forward, but he seems to be the best option on this team for now. Daniel Jones is holding back Daboll's play calling and holding back the progress of this potentially otherwise explosive offense.
"Daniel Jones has thrown interceptions in every game this year." Literally incorrect. Not even close to correct. The only pick he's thrown the last 3 games was a hail mary.
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Hi Patricia, everything I'm seeing with the team is a team rebuilding and the youngest team in the NFL. Do we change the HC after the season or give him the benefit of doubt and give him another year to try and get it right?
@@LockedOnGiantsNFL Patricia, I believe Daboll is struggling to lead the team with strict disapline like Tom Coughlin, for example. We see this in their lack of effort and perennial slow start, among other things. We could give Daboll another Josh Allen but I think the lack of leadership with the rest of the team will continue.
If he doesn't say they are making improvements what does he say? I asked the question about the media that question these coaches why don't the real questions get asked.. the questions about the decision making, the roster alignment and what improvements have you made and can you be more specific or the adjustment or lack of after halftime. The media has the opportunity to ask the tough questions but don't and he doesn't answer the questions the way he probably want to for a reason
@@larrythomas1591 Larry what do you want us to do? We ask the questions and he doesn’t answer. I’m so sick of this false narrative that the media doesn’t ask the real questions WE DO! Can’t force the man to answer them.
@LockedOnGiantsNFL I totally understand, I meant no disrespect.. just a question. Improvements that he spoke about he didn't get specific but wasn't it a true statement just vanilla? Nobody asked to elaborate. It was costly mistakes, the face mask, Robinson not running past the sticks DJ not being Danny Dimes (what happened to that person) drops from the WR group. Mental errors. Defense side Banks gave up a TD bad play call where was his help? But outside of that what did Lamb do? Flot played very good. The Giants Offense held the ball for a good while, last year it was 3 and out constantly . They should have won the game and the Redskins games they did compete when comparing them to last year games was much worse. Once they clean up things. It may be a much better team.. The giants won't be flashy or just stomp teams with high scoring numbers they never have been that type of team.
Daboll is coaching like a coward. He has nothing to lose ( Giants were headed for loss) and he still plays like a timid soul. It shows no confidence in his team.
Daniel Jones is a good qb, but he just doesn’t have IT. You need IT to get over the hump and become a great qb. Maybe the ACL injury is screwing with his mental game. Idk. I’m hoping he finds IT throughout this season, but I’m not holding my breath
Know when your QB has "it'? When the WR makes the catch on 4th down instead of dropping it. And when the defense comes up with a stop instead of giving up a game winning drive at the end of the game. That's when your QB has "it".
"We Were Competitive" is loser talk. Daniel Jones throughout his 6 year NFL career has exhibited a consistent inability to put the ball in the end zone, to put points on the board. Jones can make all the 2-7 yard passes he wants, but he is very inaccurate on any pass over 15 - 20 yards, consistently being either short or way over-thrown on all deep throws, more frequent short. Banks their top pick CB gets burned by every decent receiver in the league. 26 yards rushing on 21 carries, if that doesn't define ineptitude what does. There 2022 draft is now looking to be a compete bust or close to it. Neal a Bust, Thibodeaux is no where near the impact player a team expects and desperately needs a high 1st round pick to be, I mean he disappears for large portions of games and even games at a time. He is undersized and frequently manhandled by offensive lineman, necessitating he take an inside route, exposing the outside, for big gains by QB's and running backs. Ezeudu, Belton, Hyatt, Gray these were picks that have not benefited the Giants. Daboll has been coaching like a man afraid of losing, rather than one intent on winning. I said the same exact thing Patricia, when watching the game, not one shot into the end zone, I found that to be inexcusable. All teams in the NFL know Jones can not through a deep base. They give him the 0-7 yard pass and eliminate the intermediate passes, saying left Jones try beating us deep, which he is incapable of doing. The Giants running backs are also as slow as molasses in the winter. Singletary is supposed to be the faster of the running back core, but I surmise that there are a considerable number of linebackers in the NFL faster than he, perhaps even a handful of defensive lineman faster than he. He might have run a 4.6 40 without equipment, but that is no longer who he is, maybe 4.8 - 4.9. The Giants MO, on 3rd and 7 throw a 3 yard pass, and come up 1-2 yards short.
I agree with virtually everything you said, I would say this, IMO when has time he is top 10 in the league throwing the intermediate bullet pass, and if you look at his first year in the league, he was much better at the deep pass! What happened did the league catch up with him??????????
@@H5000-zb2rwI would have to actually review film to determine whehter it is a lack of arm strength or poor throwing biomechanics. Given i=his history of neck injuries and the relationship of the cervical nerve roots which innervate the shoulder girdle and rotator cuff muscles, it is not outside the realm of possibilities that he has sustained neurological injury affecting his throwing, However once again I would have to review films and better yet perform a detailed physical examination of the player employing computerized muscle testing devices to determine whether muscle weakness, muscle imbalances are an issue. He certainly appears to have lost more than a step following the ACL injury. He runs but lacks athleticism, lacks explosiveness.
Schoen, Daboll and Jones all have to go. Embrace the full tear down and rebuild. You are already losing to teams like Washington that are doing just that! So what exactly are we doing?
WHAT ID SAY BANKS SUKS ,WHERES BIG DEX NO WHERE CAUSE HES WAYYY OVERRATED.0 SACKS VS DALLAS AND PHILLY.Cnt stand banks,hes not pro material,this aint maryland.were fucked.dabolls playbook is from TECKNO FOOTBALL
Ha Ha. You're "tired of covering a losing team". That's funny. What have you been doing for the last ten years. This team is bad. I've been watching a bad Giants team since 1962, with a few good years sprinkled in.
They've won 4 Super Bowl's in your lifetime. Since there are 32 teams in the league they should win once every 32 years on average. You've already enjoyed more than your fair share of success.
Love listening to you Patty from Toronto, Ontario 🇨🇦🍷
Cheers, I'm in Oshawa
@@danielfinkler2160 thanks Daniel! Love your city BTW.
With a better QB this game was totally winnable.
Same with the Commanders game.
Spot on, Cynthia.
At the time DJ signed his contract for 80 million guaranteed, I said at the time that he would have to win games or make big plays or he would be gone, but to say last night was ALL DJ's fault is ABSURD, THE GAME PLAN was TRASH, the RUNNING GAME was a DISASTER, and the WEAK PASS RUSH didn't make DAK pay!!!!!!
Oh, and 2 games in a row keeping teams 20 points or under is terrific
Pass protection has improved.
DJ is moving better in the pocket.
That's all I got.
Jones has PTSD from being sacked 10 million times.
He's expecting to get sacked when he drops back. He'll get used to the new o line protection and settle down. Already on his way too.
I would never abandon the Giants but the only thing that is somewhat exciting to watch is Nabers I'm ready for the draft and hopefully they can get their quarterback
It’s daboll fault that jones can’t hit a deep shot? He left 2-3 tds on the field last night. Under throwing Nabers and slayton. It’s the most important position in sports and our guy isn’t any good. We have 6 years of evidence at this point.
And even that throw early on to Nabers where he was wide open was definitely not a pretty throw. That's a TD if he hits him in stride.
Yes and it was Daboll and the GM who chose to pay Jones and not Saquan who is already putting up MVP numbers in Philly and carrying that team since Hurts is not playing well and AJ Brown has been injured
They made that choice and every fan and local media personality agreed. Schumer, Macadoo, Joe Judge all the same crap. The owners are incompetent but everyone is afraid to call it out. Not me!
@@jlmface The funny part is you thinking you're the first one to call out Mara.
We are in a rebuild. I'm happy we didn't get blown out and fought for a win.
Thats why i like you Pat .you don't cosign nonsense.
It was a frustration game to many drop passes we coudnt get a lot of pressure on Dak. Nebars was awesome as usual. Great video as always tuff loss i saw some good things season is not over lets focus on Seattle and get a dub go Gmen. Keep up ypur great work Ptrain go Gmen. 😊
Thanks Patty for the vent session…
Everyone needs to relax. The Cowboys blew us out twice last year. Tremendous beatings
We just went punch for punch with them
Our time is next year
If we were close, Schoen would have kept Saquoun. We are a year away from being really good. Our QB just can’t throw deep.
The defense and the OL is playing great. Nabers and Robinson are awesome. We’re young and cap is in great shape
DJ is playing well enough to play a few games while the kid sits
We went "punch for punch" with them because they are way worse this season. There was nothing positive to gather from this game.
Hahahaha, bruh. We need a lot of positions still
Is the cap really in that great of shape?
We’ll be 1-7 before you know it! Sorry, but time to clean house once again!
1-7? They're going to be 2-3 after they beat Seattle. How do you get to 1-7 from 2-3?
What Daboll said is he kicked the field goal because it was a tight, low scoring game. The kind of game where 3 points can make a big difference.
The only reason the ST’s have not suffered a TD run back is because we don’t allow any run backs. We give them the ball on the 30, to avoid having to tackle anyone.
Jones missed multiple downfield shots? He clearly did call deep shots…. Qb can’t connect on them.
Of course he can. He just didn't this time. He's always been able to throw a deep ball. I think he's still working through the injury.
Daboll playing conservative is going to cost him his job! Let it all hang out.. Trade Slayton and let the young guns run wild. He threw Theo Johnson to the wolves as a rookie why not throw Hyatt in there, at least he has a yr under his belt
He has to coach to the level of his Qb
Jones missed multiple deep shots. Easily left 2-3 tds out on the field, under throwing Nabers and slayton
A problem is that the media allows Daboll to get away with generalities, and doesn’t press him on specifics. As you are saying. “ her coach: give us one specific where you see regular improvement” ( he would probably say the FG kicker).
We get 10 minutes a day with Daboll except Tuesday and Saturday. There are like 20 reporters on a call or there on any given day and at least a third are TV. I’m not sure what you expect. The questions get asked but if the guy refuses to answer what do you propose we do?
But who hired the GM..that hired the coach? The owner at some point has to be held responsible?
What you seem to forget is that the owner cannot be fired. So let's say for argument's sake Schoen and Daboll were not the right hires (and I don't believe that right now, BTW). It's not as though fans can demand a change at ownership. And knowing what I know about John Mara, I know he struggles with wanting to DESPERATELY win and being patient.
No you are wrong. The fans can demand a change or put pressure on owners by not buying tickets to this trash. Money has more power than anything in this world. If you went to a restaurant and the service or food was bad you wouldn't take it all out on the waiters or cooks would you? No like everyone you would complain to the manager or owner bec they are overall responsible for the hires. Plus you would no longer eat there correct? The knicks, Giants, Jets and Yankees continue to sell out gms but thet cannot never deliver a championship team. Why bec there is absolutely no pressure on the front offices as long as huge revenues continue to rack up. Put the spotlight on them for a change. @LockedOnGiantsNFL
No effort... That was unwatchable against the Eagles..Now are you still going to say the GM and HC should not be fired? The season is already over again! Wake up to reality.
Jones has problems processing and going thru his reads. Maybe Daboll is giving Jones the improper sequence of reads. Maybe he has to change his read sequences…for some reason when I watch Jones he does not look deliberate when he drops back. By the time he “decides” to throw the long ball the play is lost and he under throws it. This whole process sucks. And can we get some effective blocking schemes depending on the front….please?
Daniel Jones has thrown interceptions in every game this year. Granted some of them were called back because of penalties. But none the less he threw them in every game this year. Daniel Jones continues to struggle going into year 6 as a starting QB. He continues to struggle with not processing fast enough, hesitating on throws, not being able to throw an accurate deep ball despite having an 0-Line that gives him plenty of time to do so, not being cable of elevating this team, and again, consistently throwing interceptions whether they are called back or not because of penalties. Defenses know what Daniel Jones is going to do before he does it. They have a jump on him because he stares his first read down. It's time to bench Daniel Jones and ride out the rest of the year with Tommy Devito, who in my opinion based on his play is a better QB than Daniel Jones and Drew Lock. That's not to say that Tommy is the longterm solution moving forward, but he seems to be the best option on this team for now. Daniel Jones is holding back Daboll's play calling and holding back the progress of this potentially otherwise explosive offense.
"Daniel Jones has thrown interceptions in every game this year." Literally incorrect. Not even close to correct. The only pick he's thrown the last 3 games was a hail mary.
This was more like the cowboys couldn't blow us out.
The bogus calls were so upsetting.
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Giants will probably be picking early in the draft so they should go either CB or a DT to help out Dexter. And draft a QB in the second round
Hi Patricia, everything I'm seeing with the team is a team rebuilding and the youngest team in the NFL. Do we change the HC after the season or give him the benefit of doubt and give him another year to try and get it right?
Give him a chance to pick his quarterback and develop him.
@@LockedOnGiantsNFL We have a good QB. I'd like to see them get a CB or guard in the first round.
@@LockedOnGiantsNFL Patricia, I believe Daboll is struggling to lead the team with strict disapline like Tom Coughlin, for example. We see this in their lack of effort and perennial slow start, among other things. We could give Daboll another Josh Allen but I think the lack of leadership with the rest of the team will continue.
"Over by October"....should be the Giants new slogan. Tired of the excuses for Jones, Daboll, Schoen. Mara...the whole nest.
If he doesn't say they are making improvements what does he say? I asked the question about the media that question these coaches why don't the real questions get asked.. the questions about the decision making, the roster alignment and what improvements have you made and can you be more specific or the adjustment or lack of after halftime. The media has the opportunity to ask the tough questions but don't and he doesn't answer the questions the way he probably want to for a reason
@@larrythomas1591 Larry what do you want us to do? We ask the questions and he doesn’t answer. I’m so sick of this false narrative that the media doesn’t ask the real questions WE DO! Can’t force the man to answer them.
@LockedOnGiantsNFL I totally understand, I meant no disrespect.. just a question. Improvements that he spoke about he didn't get specific but wasn't it a true statement just vanilla? Nobody asked to elaborate. It was costly mistakes, the face mask, Robinson not running past the sticks DJ not being Danny Dimes (what happened to that person) drops from the WR group. Mental errors. Defense side Banks gave up a TD bad play call where was his help? But outside of that what did Lamb do? Flot played very good. The Giants Offense held the ball for a good while, last year it was 3 and out constantly . They should have won the game and the Redskins games they did compete when comparing them to last year games was much worse. Once they clean up things. It may be a much better team.. The giants won't be flashy or just stomp teams with high scoring numbers they never have been that type of team.
YAC aren’t happening because Jones ‘ completions are ill timed, late, or off target
I agree. So if Daniel is your QB, maybe take another approach?
The WR also has to have the desire to get YAC, some WR's don't have the desire, granted it's easier to get YAC on a slant, than a curl route!!!
From the red zone we can’t throw to a 6’7” tight end?
Daboll is coaching like a coward. He has nothing to lose ( Giants were headed for loss) and he still plays like a timid soul. It shows no confidence in his team.
Daniel Jones is a good qb, but he just doesn’t have IT. You need IT to get over the hump and become a great qb. Maybe the ACL injury is screwing with his mental game. Idk. I’m hoping he finds IT throughout this season, but I’m not holding my breath
Know when your QB has "it'? When the WR makes the catch on 4th down instead of dropping it. And when the defense comes up with a stop instead of giving up a game winning drive at the end of the game. That's when your QB has "it".
"We Were Competitive" is loser talk. Daniel Jones throughout his 6 year NFL career has exhibited a consistent inability to put the ball in the end zone, to put points on the board. Jones can make all the 2-7 yard passes he wants, but he is very inaccurate on any pass over 15 - 20 yards, consistently being either short or way over-thrown on all deep throws, more frequent short. Banks their top pick CB gets burned by every decent receiver in the league. 26 yards rushing on 21 carries, if that doesn't define ineptitude what does. There 2022 draft is now looking to be a compete bust or close to it. Neal a Bust, Thibodeaux is no where near the impact player a team expects and desperately needs a high 1st round pick to be, I mean he disappears for large portions of games and even games at a time. He is undersized and frequently manhandled by offensive lineman, necessitating he take an inside route, exposing the outside, for big gains by QB's and running backs. Ezeudu, Belton, Hyatt, Gray these were picks that have not benefited the Giants. Daboll has been coaching like a man afraid of losing, rather than one intent on winning. I said the same exact thing Patricia, when watching the game, not one shot into the end zone, I found that to be inexcusable. All teams in the NFL know Jones can not through a deep base. They give him the 0-7 yard pass and eliminate the intermediate passes, saying left Jones try beating us deep, which he is incapable of doing. The Giants running backs are also as slow as molasses in the winter. Singletary is supposed to be the faster of the running back core, but I surmise that there are a considerable number of linebackers in the NFL faster than he, perhaps even a handful of defensive lineman faster than he. He might have run a 4.6 40 without equipment, but that is no longer who he is, maybe 4.8 - 4.9. The Giants MO, on 3rd and 7 throw a 3 yard pass, and come up 1-2 yards short.
I agree with virtually everything you said, I would say this, IMO when has time he is top 10 in the league throwing the intermediate bullet pass, and if you look at his first year in the league, he was much better at the deep pass! What happened did the league catch up with him??????????
@@H5000-zb2rwI would have to actually review film to determine whehter it is a lack of arm strength or poor throwing biomechanics. Given i=his history of neck injuries and the relationship of the cervical nerve roots which innervate the shoulder girdle and rotator cuff muscles, it is not outside the realm of possibilities that he has sustained neurological injury affecting his throwing, However once again I would have to review films and better yet perform a detailed physical examination of the player employing computerized muscle testing devices to determine whether muscle weakness, muscle imbalances are an issue. He certainly appears to have lost more than a step following the ACL injury. He runs but lacks athleticism, lacks explosiveness.
Not bad is a positive ? We are in trouble
Are seats getting warm yet?
At 1-3? When we could have just as easily been 3-1? GTFOH
I can’t stand Daniel jones , can’t wait til I get the alert “ 🚨 Giants cut Daniel Jones “
Schoen, Daboll and Jones all have to go. Embrace the full tear down and rebuild. You are already losing to teams like Washington that are doing just that! So what exactly are we doing?
Yeah, let's continue to shuffle new guys in every couple years. That's been working great.
Positives? Nah
WHAT ID SAY BANKS SUKS ,WHERES BIG DEX NO WHERE CAUSE HES WAYYY OVERRATED.0 SACKS VS DALLAS AND PHILLY.Cnt stand banks,hes not pro material,this aint maryland.were fucked.dabolls playbook is from TECKNO FOOTBALL
Ha Ha. You're "tired of covering a losing team". That's funny. What have you been doing for the last ten years. This team is bad. I've been watching a bad Giants team since 1962, with a few good years sprinkled in.
They've won 4 Super Bowl's in your lifetime. Since there are 32 teams in the league they should win once every 32 years on average. You've already enjoyed more than your fair share of success.
That's why i call him Joe Judge 2.0! Daboll is very overrated as a playcaller!