Nimbus sea is way too big considering how few islands are in it. When it first came out I was like “this map is tiny” till I realised Sameria was like 5km and only in the middle
@@Q_ari i see.. me personally i've been hit hard cuz i usually use a lot of atk speed (like, nearly max atk speed), and you can very much feel the nerfs there Tho i must ask, how much speed does 180 give to ya? like, post nerfs i mean
Man. Everyone be shitting on Vetex. NOW I'm not gonna bring up he's a solo dev and whatever, but yall gotta understand how all over the place he is rn 😭
Then he need to hire some extra dev or this project iwll end up scrapped like every ohter one he did b4 cause he keep promising more stuff than he can realisticly do. Took us a year for a small update to the story and side contents.
@@Blue_gamingHD Well maybe he should consider hiring some dev for the balancing, or focusing on that a bit more since the endgame rn is littearly only PvP. Don't get me wrong, I don't hate Vetex, but after playing his game for so many years, I can tell you he as major issue about focusing on important content. Remember, as the video stated, It took a year b4 Vitality build can acctualy exist now and it barely ever done. They got a single skill, you can't even go oracle rn. We still have no sign of any new style for warlock/Fighters. Vetex cook great update, but lots of those update are focused on side content and we often get more lackluster main contents when he do make them sadly.
Im sad that my teal lightning paladin now constantly has gold/yellow in it. I personally dont like that color scheme. I wish paladin would just have blue spirit energy. I am considering to just swap builds since im not willing to reset my WoM build nor change the magic even if I could. They should give the option of changing the colour sheme between a set of colours so you can make any build not look bad. Dont get me wrong, I do like the idea of the personality of the character affecting the spirit energy and lore being attached to it, but I do want my builds to look visually appealing too.
LITERALLY I wanted red or purple for my knight build, but the resulting color I got was …. A blu-ish purple??? It leaned more towards blue which made me really upset since it didn’t fit with the character at all 😭 I was expecting vitality builds to be able to change color but NOPE
Next Story Chapter- Arrive in Skyhall. The Island is under attack and destroyed!! Talking to 2 NPC's fight 2 enemies Chapter Over. (Also the update is gonna take 3 months to release)
Shit, I used to play warrior cause it was trash back then but now I gotta play another class to actually know that killing a hard opponent is a sign of skill
Basiclly this update i came back on my warrior slot from so long to try the new changes until i saw so many people start hating the class from a troll class to the most hated ouch-
Main complaint i got from this update is the speed nerf which is *way too* drastic since casting speed tresholds are now *doubled* in requirement That and also paladin spirit aura Man i wanted my teal QvQ Had to swtich to a paladin-like savant cuz the gold aura does not fit at all with moonlight it looks that bad lol
The reason vitality builds are so good now is bc eagle patrimony adds lightning so water paladin and fighting styles that do bleed or soaked and swords get free synergies so ye thats probably why vitality builds are so good now the only downside is that u take dmg from using spells but if u can finish a fight quickly it wont even matter
I don't understand, is testing that hard or confusing that these go unnoticed or is it a decision to let it in the game with these stuff because there was no time?
It’s a combination of a lack of active testers and most of those same testers not caring about the game, since they are just people who happen to know Vetex. I still enjoy the game, but god, does it have its flaws.
@@1Primordial Vetex still cares about the game. He's just tired of the toxic parts of the community, which I do not blame him for. Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of things he could improve, especially in terms of testing and dealing with community toxicity.
My light imbued flying phoenix with kai sabre speed is even slower than non imbued 😭🙏 Like are they tested it before they even release? And for some reason, earth imbued speed is somehow faster..??
I think that vitality bonus dmg with awakening works, but less than intended, I have a 117 power glass paladin and my smallest size double beam only does 240
Yeah, balance is a mess, but it’ll be fixed. Weapon customization is getting a balance overhaul that wasn’t added before the update, so while they’ll still have tons of skills it’ll be manageable
The game will never have proper balancing. Everyone on the balance team all have an agenda (so does Vetex) for their builds to be broken and everything else to be garbage. The game is stuck and is doomed into an endless cycle of everything being nerfed except one build. They can’t balance if their life depended on my because they’re all retards.
bro story was a joke. i did it with my warlord. it took me 70 second excluding sailing. i one tapped all the enemy so there was nothing. took me 4 minute with sailing
I have to say, you are wrong with the vitality imbues not working, i've been playing knight and 140 damage with 70 power is crazy, im doing 200 with 77, and vitality imbues do give their respective damage and size buffs on both jugg and knight, i havent done much with paladin so i dont know the case there
note from vetex(to also force a change): "Also big to all the toxic, complaining, doomposting PvPers in this community. I know most of the people I'm talking about probably won't read this (because they tend to not read things and then complain about stuff out of their own ignorance) but you know who you are. I despise this portion of the community and frankly I would remove PvP entirely if it wouldn't kill the game, but Roblox games like this can't survive without PvP so it has to have it. It's astounding how much more toxic the Roblox community is nowadays compared to years ago, even when I spend a week doing community balance changes there are still people complaining about some small insignificant thing that will just be fixed in a hotfix or whatever. I barely even interact with the community anymore due to how toxic Roblox has gotten. Even youtubers make entire videos spreading false information or assumptions on topics they are completely ignorant about. Here's the truth: this game will NEVER have combat focused updates and the fact that there is more than a weeks worth of balancing changes to do every update is ridiculous and takes away from new content the game could be getting, and is simply unrealistic to be expected to be 100% done every single update. I would rather work on aspects of the game that everyone likes rather than weird behaviors that don't affect 90% of the playerbase, and yet we hear "this game is doomed" whenever the most insignificant things on the balance doc are skipped. If you don't like the fact the game is not getting combat focused updates then leave, the game would be a better place without these toxic people And as for the "testers bad! I would be a way better tester!" people, no you would not. Even if the game had 300 active testers, there would still be bugs that make it into each update and you would still complain. There is simply no way to catch every single bug before every update, and this doesn't even matter considering the actual game breaking ones are fixed less than a week after updates anyways. I don't owe anyone anything, and you playing my game doesn't entitle you to anything either. I do enough of the balance doc every update to make sure the game is stable and yet every single update, without fail, there are entire channels of people complaining and crying to the point of the public balance discord's general chat having to be closed down. No matter how much you complain I am not changing my update routine to appease you because I despise players like you. I already do more for these players in each update than I would like to." #1: "Also big to all the toxic, complaining, doomposting PvPers in this community. I know most of the people I'm talking about probably won't read this (because they tend to not read things and then complain about stuff out of their own ignorance) but you know who you are. I despise this portion of the community and frankly I would remove PvP entirely if it wouldn't kill the game, but Roblox games like this can't survive without PvP so it has to have it. It's astounding how much more toxic the Roblox community is nowadays compared to years ago, even when I spend a week doing community balance changes there are still people complaining about some small insignificant thing that will just be fixed in a hotfix or whatever. " You despise them cause you know most of them are correct. If you want to remove pvp then remove it cause it wont change the game. Sure the PVPers will leave but games like this survives with no pvp. I can give many examples and a prime example is SOL RNG Horse valley dragon adventures just to name a few. The community grows more and more toxic as you become a worse and worse dev. when you balance things you end up nerfing things soo much that you end up hurting other classes. For example nerf mages then you hurt all classes with magic. nerf berserker then you hurt all classes with fighting styles. Nerf warrior then you hurt all melee based classes. Hell the game wouldnt be filled with bugs if you actually had your testers test thing instead of goofing off in elysium and call that testing. #2: "I barely even interact with the community anymore due to how toxic Roblox has gotten. Even youtubers make entire videos spreading false information or assumptions on topics they are completely ignorant about." #2: Yea I understand cause you are facing against a group of people instead of a person who represents everyone which causes you to become stressed. Though the youtubers have been more straight forward on the game's direction. You may not be able to see how much the game fallen but the community can. No wonder we used to have like 20K+ reoccurring players? but now a measly 3k. totally the PVPers that causes it not all the nerfing and consistent avoidance from the community. #3: "Here's the truth: this game will NEVER have combat focused updates and the fact that there is more than a weeks worth of balancing changes to do every update is ridiculous and takes away from new content the game could be getting, and is simply unrealistic to be expected to be 100% done every single update. I would rather work on aspects of the game that everyone likes rather than weird behaviors that don't affect 90% of the playerbase, and yet we hear "this game is doomed" whenever the most insignificant things on the balance doc are skipped. If you don't like the fact the game is not getting combat focused updates then leave, the game would be a better place without these toxic people" #3: the game is based off of combat. If it werent then it would be like fishing simulator. Knowing that we have to fish for hours for some good gear. Again perhaps instead of balancing you should try to buff more of the specific class instead of affecting all classes. As a person who dont like Pvp much I can see the game crumbling under you as you continue trying to build upon the fragile foundation. the only reason your game have not fallen yet is cause of these said "toxic players" that rejoins to play and have fun just to find out you nerfed everything again and force them to find a new way to deal damage. Hell you nerfed everyone soo badly kind calvus gotten harder to kill by 10 times. I used to be able to kill him in 5-7 hits cause i go for a glass cannon build. #4: "And as for the "testers bad! I would be a way better tester!" people, no you would not. Even if the game had 300 active testers, there would still be bugs that make it into each update and you would still complain. There is simply no way to catch every single bug before every update, and this doesn't even matter considering the actual game breaking ones are fixed less than a week after updates anyways." #4: if your testers actually tested the game then your game would not be soo broken. Instead you and your testers just play in elysium. You cherry picked your testers. #5: "I don't owe anyone anything, and you playing my game doesn't entitle you to anything either. I do enough of the balance doc every update to make sure the game is stable and yet every single update, without fail, there are entire channels of people complaining and crying to the point of the public balance discord's general chat having to be closed down. " #5: Sure ya dont owe us a thing but as a dev you gotta understand that once you lose a player base it will be really hard to get some back if any at all. Look at world of magic. The game you abandoned. It still got a few players cause they enjoy it but if you cause them to leave then guess what? it will be a whole battle sails and riv situation. A good game that fell cause of a bad dev #6:"No matter how much you complain I am not changing my update routine to appease you because I despise players like you. I already do more for these players in each update than I would like to." #6: One good example of why you should listen to the community: "helldivers 2 community vs sony: Helldiver's rebellion" not good enough? "warthunder boycott 16th of May 2023" the players and the community has a lot of power over the game. People despise devs that are soo stubborn that they cant see the foundation they stand upon. One good way to force vetex to change his mind and make better updates is to down vote the game and boycott it.
For me the attack speed nerfs made me the most mad. Everyone celebrates it because of 300 speed turret mages getting nerfed, but I and a few of my friends used to use like 525 attack speed builds that had insta cast, which sounds broken, and it was really good, but the instant cast builds had genuine counterplay and, while they could do a lot of damage with 20 blasts and beams, all other stats would be at a huge deficit. we've reached a point where having 100 size is comparable to having 400 attack speed and it just isn't fair. I get that the casting speed nerf was fixing a bug but the game genuinely felt like it had more build variety despite size becoming more and more oppressive, since attack speed was actually usable - it should've been nerfed around the 300 attack speed range, not all the way up at 500 where there's a bigger stat sacrifice for using it. I've been forced to become a size snow mage and I hate using it - it's really slow, and all the techniques and movement quirks I'd trained throughout nimbus went completely wasted as a result. Yeah, I'm coping, you can laugh if you want, but if attack speed stays in this hole of total unviability I'll eventually just give up with ao. Size is just gonna get better and better, and there's nothing I can do about it. I can't even join the masses in the aoe meta because I don't enjoy using size builds.
Am one of the friends mentioned here, and yea i can confirm that speed has been gutted, altho i did manage to save my build from pure unusability since i switched to a paladin-like savant, but seriously now the tresholds for casting have been *doubled* it's beyond unfair, i get maybe a bit of an increase but 600 speed is the same as 300 rn, i bet insta cast is at 1k speed even
@@HeyaVanniHere i got 2 days of using my long grinded for light mage. I have quit the game for a while tbh, like, I could do 500 with 20 beams, but they were 20% size (needed aim) and at the time, there were still ice glass mages doing similar if not even more dmg with huge aoe as well. Speed didnt need to be nerfed so badly. I tried out warrior, it just got boring honestly
@@Pabloda_cat yea.. game's a lot boring, tho i was thankfully able to save my build with a tanky savant (no I'm not going paladin simply bc of the gold aura lol i want the teal) but for any other builds i don't think speed is viable as much anymore..
YOU FORGET, THEY WANT TO BUFF AOE AGAIN, Metapoly is the one that keeps pushing for the nerf of atk spd and buff of atk size, Ive fought him, its no wonder he wants skillless, brainless play to be meta
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Just quit the game like me n other top pvpers did bro. Vetex has killed his game and NOTHING will fix it because it will always be a cycle of one thing being more broken than something else because everyone on the balance team are sped. AO is cooked and it’s time to stop huffing the copium
@@Q_ari You remember Apollo? Or more specifically Overlord, Kira, Denaka? I was good friends with all them and was a top 10 Sailord. I never really attended pvp tourneys due to time zones but I was almost always in Elysium.
@@Q_ari prob should have worded the OP better, never associated myself with being a top pvper cause like I said I never attended tourneys so I was really unknown besides being known in Apollo and HoB. I was MrTop and I mained sailord and sidemained warrior.
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Nimbus sea is way too big considering how few islands are in it. When it first came out I was like “this map is tiny” till I realised Sameria was like 5km and only in the middle
word vro it is an insanely long distance between the few islands we have
Imagine how sick it would be for naval combat tho
I mean, if we are gonna have fleet battles we need that space bru
Might be space fof new islands, since its not finished
He will add more islands im sure.
"if everything is meta, then nothing will be" - vetex
word
The savant in question:
Everything except atk speed cuz that became completely useless (unless you go with 600 of it which is nearly impossible to get)
@@HeyaVanniHere that's just not true tho I have like 180 and it's good
@@Q_ari i see.. me personally i've been hit hard cuz i usually use a lot of atk speed (like, nearly max atk speed), and you can very much feel the nerfs there
Tho i must ask, how much speed does 180 give to ya? like, post nerfs i mean
Man. Everyone be shitting on Vetex. NOW I'm not gonna bring up he's a solo dev and whatever, but yall gotta understand how all over the place he is rn 😭
Then he need to hire some extra dev or this project iwll end up scrapped like every ohter one he did b4 cause he keep promising more stuff than he can realisticly do. Took us a year for a small update to the story and side contents.
He needs to hire atleast 2 devs fr
@@magikazam8430no vetex is alr fast imo for the balancing he is lazy to change stuff due to it being boring
I'm usually supportive of vetex but 1.16 is just treacherous
@@Blue_gamingHD Well maybe he should consider hiring some dev for the balancing, or focusing on that a bit more since the endgame rn is littearly only PvP. Don't get me wrong, I don't hate Vetex, but after playing his game for so many years, I can tell you he as major issue about focusing on important content. Remember, as the video stated, It took a year b4 Vitality build can acctualy exist now and it barely ever done. They got a single skill, you can't even go oracle rn. We still have no sign of any new style for warlock/Fighters. Vetex cook great update, but lots of those update are focused on side content and we often get more lackluster main contents when he do make them sadly.
Wildest first sentence to a video
Shit had me dying
Im sad that my teal lightning paladin now constantly has gold/yellow in it. I personally dont like that color scheme. I wish paladin would just have blue spirit energy. I am considering to just swap builds since im not willing to reset my WoM build nor change the magic even if I could.
They should give the option of changing the colour sheme between a set of colours so you can make any build not look bad. Dont get me wrong, I do like the idea of the personality of the character affecting the spirit energy and lore being attached to it, but I do want my builds to look visually appealing too.
LITERALLY I wanted red or purple for my knight build, but the resulting color I got was …. A blu-ish purple??? It leaned more towards blue which made me really upset since it didn’t fit with the character at all 😭 I was expecting vitality builds to be able to change color but NOPE
oh man i want merciful shadow paladin have the blue aura but the game just give me GOLD PISS aura
I actually had some problem with the wolves bandits, those keraxe vikings were even easier.
fair, Keraxe vikings are silly.jokesters
wait til he finds out about dense halbred tempest
I'm going to have an aneurysm
Please dont give any newbies new fucking ideas😭
Sounds like a good Thing to try out
So fun to use
Next Story Chapter-
Arrive in Skyhall.
The Island is under attack and destroyed!!
Talking to 2 NPC's
fight 2 enemies
Chapter Over.
(Also the update is gonna take 3 months to release)
Sky hall gets scrapped half way through
He’s releasing updates every month
@@CrusaderMan-vf7hf hmmmm its agust and still nothing
it’s almost 2025 and still nothing
we're bringing responding to 6 month old comments into 2025
"sit down" dies immediately after
forgot abour the second one shot move fr
Shit, I used to play warrior cause it was trash back then but now I gotta play another class to actually know that killing a hard opponent is a sign of skill
go savant
Basiclly this update i came back on my warrior slot from so long to try the new changes until i saw so many people start hating the class from a troll class to the most hated ouch-
Main complaint i got from this update is the speed nerf which is *way too* drastic since casting speed tresholds are now *doubled* in requirement
That and also paladin spirit aura
Man i wanted my teal QvQ
Had to swtich to a paladin-like savant cuz the gold aura does not fit at all with moonlight it looks that bad lol
bruh this game's op build simulator now
Nothing is really so op that u won't die so I wouldn't worry that much
tbh as a conj I aint changing my class, I am a loyal lighting conj and will always be!
Loyal Plasma conj here
funny how earth kinda stole our thunder for a bit, somehow ended up being the fastest in the game 💀
@@chilledout_5486 ikr
LIGHTNING CONJURERS RISE UP
The reason vitality builds are so good now is bc eagle patrimony adds lightning so water paladin and fighting styles that do bleed or soaked and swords get free synergies so ye thats probably why vitality builds are so good now the only downside is that u take dmg from using spells but if u can finish a fight quickly it wont even matter
Me seeing the metal mage literally eat your HP in 2 seconda at the start with surge at 0:36 : 👁👄👁
not my headass saying 'sit down' when I've only avoided one of the two one shot moves
edit: not my headass referencing the wrong background clip
ITS ARCANE OVER
I don't understand, is testing that hard or confusing that these go unnoticed
or is it a decision to let it in the game with these stuff because there was no time?
It’s a combination of a lack of active testers and most of those same testers not caring about the game, since they are just people who happen to know Vetex. I still enjoy the game, but god, does it have its flaws.
Go look at his new message he said he dont gaf about papers and balance. He gave up. I've never seen someone fall of this hard besides phoeyu.
@@1Primordial I read it, I think we should just give him space to figure it out
@@1Primordial Vetex still cares about the game. He's just tired of the toxic parts of the community, which I do not blame him for. Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of things he could improve, especially in terms of testing and dealing with community toxicity.
My light imbued flying phoenix with kai sabre speed is even slower than non imbued 😭🙏
Like are they tested it before they even release?
And for some reason, earth imbued speed is somehow faster..??
buggy mess cuz testers can't test
I think that vitality bonus dmg with awakening works, but less than intended, I have a 117 power glass paladin and my smallest size double beam only does 240
insanity
I dont pvp in arcane i just mess around and make builds while doing pve but VETEX WHERE IS THE PURE VITALITY BUILD the games been out for like a YEAR
"I think this calls for nerfs to attack speed and thermo fist heat" - balance team
honestly i dont even care about the pvp mechanics i just wanna play normally
bruh im just chillin dawg the next story update seems cool
Yeah, balance is a mess, but it’ll be fixed. Weapon customization is getting a balance overhaul that wasn’t added before the update, so while they’ll still have tons of skills it’ll be manageable
The game will never have proper balancing. Everyone on the balance team all have an agenda (so does Vetex) for their builds to be broken and everything else to be garbage. The game is stuck and is doomed into an endless cycle of everything being nerfed except one build. They can’t balance if their life depended on my because they’re all retards.
Vetex needs to lock in next update with actual bug fixes and good balance changes
bro story was a joke. i did it with my warlord. it took me 70 second excluding sailing. i one tapped all the enemy so there was nothing. took me 4 minute with sailing
I heard attack speed will be fixed in the next trello is that true?
we won't know until the patch drops since the testers don't test
Im a warrior main and im happy that i can fight other classes on a even ground now
aoe warrior was 2nd best class in 1.15? unless you were projectile warrior in which case 🫡
@@Q_ari i was a mix of each
Now idk what to go for
Bro sold the balancing so badly
canonical warlord size proof is Argos.
argos is a general in the ravenna army, ranking the same as general julian who one shot us , he's an anomaly even in old age
@@Q_ari nah bro just lifts (that's why hes badass) like vtex and his ideas for the game.
@@LazyPressitVetex lifts yes and he also takes roids.
I have to say, you are wrong with the vitality imbues not working, i've been playing knight and 140 damage with 70 power is crazy, im doing 200 with 77, and vitality imbues do give their respective damage and size buffs on both jugg and knight, i havent done much with paladin so i dont know the case there
I see
I 100% agree,i bet i could balance myself better this is ass
absolutely insane opening line but W vid
note from vetex(to also force a change):
"Also big to all the toxic, complaining, doomposting PvPers in this community. I know most of the people I'm talking about probably won't read this (because they tend to not read things and then complain about stuff out of their own ignorance) but you know who you are.
I despise this portion of the community and frankly I would remove PvP entirely if it wouldn't kill the game, but Roblox games like this can't survive without PvP so it has to have it. It's astounding how much more toxic the Roblox community is nowadays compared to years ago, even when I spend a week doing community balance changes there are still people complaining about some small insignificant thing that will just be fixed in a hotfix or whatever.
I barely even interact with the community anymore due to how toxic Roblox has gotten. Even youtubers make entire videos spreading false information or assumptions on topics they are completely ignorant about.
Here's the truth: this game will NEVER have combat focused updates and the fact that there is more than a weeks worth of balancing changes to do every update is ridiculous and takes away from new content the game could be getting, and is simply unrealistic to be expected to be 100% done every single update. I would rather work on aspects of the game that everyone likes rather than weird behaviors that don't affect 90% of the playerbase, and yet we hear "this game is doomed" whenever the most insignificant things on the balance doc are skipped. If you don't like the fact the game is not getting combat focused updates then leave, the game would be a better place without these toxic people
And as for the "testers bad! I would be a way better tester!" people, no you would not. Even if the game had 300 active testers, there would still be bugs that make it into each update and you would still complain. There is simply no way to catch every single bug before every update, and this doesn't even matter considering the actual game breaking ones are fixed less than a week after updates anyways.
I don't owe anyone anything, and you playing my game doesn't entitle you to anything either. I do enough of the balance doc every update to make sure the game is stable and yet every single update, without fail, there are entire channels of people complaining and crying to the point of the public balance discord's general chat having to be closed down.
No matter how much you complain I am not changing my update routine to appease you because I despise players like you. I already do more for these players in each update than I would like to."
#1: "Also big to all the toxic, complaining, doomposting PvPers in this community. I know most of the people I'm talking about probably won't read this (because they tend to not read things and then complain about stuff out of their own ignorance) but you know who you are. I despise this portion of the community and frankly I would remove PvP entirely if it wouldn't kill the game, but Roblox games like this can't survive without PvP so it has to have it. It's astounding how much more toxic the Roblox community is nowadays compared to years ago, even when I spend a week doing community balance changes there are still people complaining about some small insignificant thing that will just be fixed in a hotfix or whatever. "
You despise them cause you know most of them are correct. If you want to remove pvp then remove it cause it wont change the game. Sure the PVPers will leave but games like this survives with no pvp. I can give many examples and a prime example is SOL RNG Horse valley dragon adventures just to name a few. The community grows more and more toxic as you become a worse and worse dev. when you balance things you end up nerfing things soo much that you end up hurting other classes. For example nerf mages then you hurt all classes with magic. nerf berserker then you hurt all classes with fighting styles. Nerf warrior then you hurt all melee based classes. Hell the game wouldnt be filled with bugs if you actually had your testers test thing instead of goofing off in elysium and call that testing.
#2: "I barely even interact with the community anymore due to how toxic Roblox has gotten. Even youtubers make entire videos spreading false information or assumptions on topics they are completely ignorant about."
#2: Yea I understand cause you are facing against a group of people instead of a person who represents everyone which causes you to become stressed. Though the youtubers have been more straight forward on the game's direction. You may not be able to see how much the game fallen but the community can. No wonder we used to have like 20K+ reoccurring players? but now a measly 3k. totally the PVPers that causes it not all the nerfing and consistent avoidance from the community.
#3: "Here's the truth: this game will NEVER have combat focused updates and the fact that there is more than a weeks worth of balancing changes to do every update is ridiculous and takes away from new content the game could be getting, and is simply unrealistic to be expected to be 100% done every single update. I would rather work on aspects of the game that everyone likes rather than weird behaviors that don't affect 90% of the playerbase, and yet we hear "this game is doomed" whenever the most insignificant things on the balance doc are skipped. If you don't like the fact the game is not getting combat focused updates then leave, the game would be a better place without these toxic people"
#3: the game is based off of combat. If it werent then it would be like fishing simulator. Knowing that we have to fish for hours for some good gear. Again perhaps instead of balancing you should try to buff more of the specific class instead of affecting all classes. As a person who dont like Pvp much I can see the game crumbling under you as you continue trying to build upon the fragile foundation. the only reason your game have not fallen yet is cause of these said "toxic players" that rejoins to play and have fun just to find out you nerfed everything again and force them to find a new way to deal damage. Hell you nerfed everyone soo badly kind calvus gotten harder to kill by 10 times. I used to be able to kill him in 5-7 hits cause i go for a glass cannon build.
#4: "And as for the "testers bad! I would be a way better tester!" people, no you would not. Even if the game had 300 active testers, there would still be bugs that make it into each update and you would still complain. There is simply no way to catch every single bug before every update, and this doesn't even matter considering the actual game breaking ones are fixed less than a week after updates anyways."
#4: if your testers actually tested the game then your game would not be soo broken. Instead you and your testers just play in elysium. You cherry picked your testers.
#5: "I don't owe anyone anything, and you playing my game doesn't entitle you to anything either. I do enough of the balance doc every update to make sure the game is stable and yet every single update, without fail, there are entire channels of people complaining and crying to the point of the public balance discord's general chat having to be closed down. "
#5: Sure ya dont owe us a thing but as a dev you gotta understand that once you lose a player base it will be really hard to get some back if any at all. Look at world of magic. The game you abandoned. It still got a few players cause they enjoy it but if you cause them to leave then guess what? it will be a whole battle sails and riv situation. A good game that fell cause of a bad dev
#6:"No matter how much you complain I am not changing my update routine to appease you because I despise players like you. I already do more for these players in each update than I would like to."
#6: One good example of why you should listen to the community: "helldivers 2 community vs sony: Helldiver's rebellion" not good enough? "warthunder boycott 16th of May 2023" the players and the community has a lot of power over the game. People despise devs that are soo stubborn that they cant see the foundation they stand upon.
One good way to force vetex to change his mind and make better updates is to down vote the game and boycott it.
For me the attack speed nerfs made me the most mad. Everyone celebrates it because of 300 speed turret mages getting nerfed, but I and a few of my friends used to use like 525 attack speed builds that had insta cast, which sounds broken, and it was really good, but the instant cast builds had genuine counterplay and, while they could do a lot of damage with 20 blasts and beams, all other stats would be at a huge deficit. we've reached a point where having 100 size is comparable to having 400 attack speed and it just isn't fair. I get that the casting speed nerf was fixing a bug but the game genuinely felt like it had more build variety despite size becoming more and more oppressive, since attack speed was actually usable - it should've been nerfed around the 300 attack speed range, not all the way up at 500 where there's a bigger stat sacrifice for using it. I've been forced to become a size snow mage and I hate using it - it's really slow, and all the techniques and movement quirks I'd trained throughout nimbus went completely wasted as a result.
Yeah, I'm coping, you can laugh if you want, but if attack speed stays in this hole of total unviability I'll eventually just give up with ao. Size is just gonna get better and better, and there's nothing I can do about it. I can't even join the masses in the aoe meta because I don't enjoy using size builds.
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Same here, Size builds are the ones that are going to break my laptop
Am one of the friends mentioned here, and yea i can confirm that speed has been gutted, altho i did manage to save my build from pure unusability since i switched to a paladin-like savant, but seriously now the tresholds for casting have been *doubled* it's beyond unfair, i get maybe a bit of an increase but 600 speed is the same as 300 rn, i bet insta cast is at 1k speed even
@@HeyaVanniHere i got 2 days of using my long grinded for light mage. I have quit the game for a while tbh, like, I could do 500 with 20 beams, but they were 20% size (needed aim) and at the time, there were still ice glass mages doing similar if not even more dmg with huge aoe as well. Speed didnt need to be nerfed so badly. I tried out warrior, it just got boring honestly
@@Pabloda_cat yea.. game's a lot boring, tho i was thankfully able to save my build with a tanky savant (no I'm not going paladin simply bc of the gold aura lol i want the teal) but for any other builds i don't think speed is viable as much anymore..
Y’all just don’t leave the guy alone.
I'm the biggest hater
I hate the way that he walks
the way that he talks
I hate the way that he dress
I hate the way that he sneak Diss If I catch a flight it's gon be direct
YOU FORGET, THEY WANT TO BUFF AOE AGAIN, Metapoly is the one that keeps pushing for the nerf of atk spd and buff of atk size, Ive fought him, its no wonder he wants skillless, brainless play to be meta
i have no words for 1.16
dude i just wonder what the playtesters be doing bro there r so many things in this game that r just like... horrible
Me who still hasn't gotten my Kai Sabre back bc of wipe and shit rng: :(
wild
@@Q_ari I've killed it like 20x Bru pls wish me luck;-;
Just buy it atp bro😢
What's wrong with agility?
pvp toggle and it ruins builds for when you actually want to pvp using it
Only thing that is fucking wrong with this update is bunch of abilities for warriors
all of speed affinities being fucked:
not even worth it loggin in to the try the update lmao, instantly getting ganked by size abusers
Did you have a stroke or something?
We need to replace vetex please.
nah buff vetex iq on the balance doc
but a lot of issues do also come from most of the testers barely doing their jobs, it can't all be blamed on vetex
@@Q_ari Thats honestly fair, i am actually so mad at how much potential this game has just to be wasted
@@Q_arivetex needs to equip some warding armor because right now Hes insane
*Insane intro*
arcane to vetex is what minors are to you 💔
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just fix the fucking lag issue
once again, the story is cutscene heavy with little to no actual gameplay
ngl ti would be fine if we atleast got like 10 more levels or an actual story not with that we got
arcane odyssey is meant to be a aoe game
The rat gif
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Sounds like a skill issue ngl
smh I should've read slower
@@Q_ari honestly bro
mute your mic
@@feinboy19 why the fuck are you watching this 4 months into 1.16
W uppdate
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
womp womp stop whining get good
I miss the old kanye straight from the go kanye chop up the soul kanye set on his goal kanye I hate the new kanye the always rude kanye
spaz in the news kanye I miss the sweet kanye chop up the beats kanye I gotta say at that time id like to meet kanye see I invented kanye it wasn't any kanye and now I look around and around and see so many kanyes I used to love kanye I used to love kanye I even had the pink polo I thought I was kanye what if kanye made a song called I miss the old kanye that would be so kanye that's all it was kanye we still love kanye and I love you like kanye loves kanye
Just quit the game like me n other top pvpers did bro. Vetex has killed his game and NOTHING will fix it because it will always be a cycle of one thing being more broken than something else because everyone on the balance team are sped. AO is cooked and it’s time to stop huffing the copium
who were you? you're 100% right but I'm just curious who you are if you're saying you're a former top pvper
@@Q_ari You remember Apollo? Or more specifically Overlord, Kira, Denaka? I was good friends with all them and was a top 10 Sailord. I never really attended pvp tourneys due to time zones but I was almost always in Elysium.
ofc I remember apollo but who exactly are you what was your main
@@Q_ari prob should have worded the OP better, never associated myself with being a top pvper cause like I said I never attended tourneys so I was really unknown besides being known in Apollo and HoB. I was MrTop and I mained sailord and sidemained warrior.
oh right