This is a really nice breakdown of the basics because it also helps people understand what they might be good at based on the effective ranges and playstyles of the classes
Step 1: consider fighting back when you’re getting hunted. Practicing in unideal situations generally yields more benefits than constantly being smothered by the “rules” in a fair fight. Even if they’re one of those guys that have 1.1k kills in 50 hours, allot of those kills just come from them either killing the same person over and over again during a practice (which gets them accustomed to the “rules” and is also why they’re usually incredibly petty when they lose) or from killing the average ravenna level 93 random. TLDR: more pvp can only be beneficial for your improvement. All right that was my ted talk see you guys next tuesday
Not many rules in a friendly 1v1 tho... just not using potions isnt exactly an idealised version of fighting as most ppl wont make use of them even when hunting
Fighting in unideal situations will not necessarely help you any more than any other situation. What matter's is to learn while you fight, and that needs to be done consciously, otherwise It doesn't matter the situation you will not be learning anything.
I was just playing. He jumped me after a dark sea expedition CUS I WAS POOR. (was using a caravel) I couldn't kill him because I suck, but during our first fight I was on the upper hand and he ran away. Then he was generally an asshole.
Easy for people who dont go to college or don’t take much classes in high school of college. Really damn hard when you have so much work you can’t practice pvp. (I am the one swamped with work, the only thing carrying me in being good at pvp despite being rusty right now is meta magic and stats. Tho I do wanna start coming back because vitality sounds sick and I wanna use) Edit: yeah I’m afraid to say I broke my oath of never becoming a metal mage with 200 size
College student as well. And yeah i get what you mean by just not having time, something that can help with this is just having specific and good practice. Have a competent sparring partner and understand your kit/moveset better. A competent sparring partner will piece you up when you make a mistake and that will be how you find what youre doing wrong the quickest.
Join archronos pvp server, theres pvp sessions held constantly there. Elysiums are constantly being open. I can say pretty much everyone there too is well skilled or even better at pvp than me. Just ask around and im sure someone will help you. Server link is in vids description.
Not a good pvper by any standards (size crutch), but I met this dude and helped him with how to warrior and some mechanics... He absolutely devastated me within an hour. I don't know if I should be happy or feel bad about myself. Just to note, I would green him the first couple of rounds before I gave advice. Now I'm thinking buddy is an alt.
Probably the best pvp guide i’ve ever seen Just by using both magic and weapons as a conjurer instead of relying on just weapons, attacking less on the ground and going up close to attack I already beat my first pvp battle
YES, ive been saying this for so long. Hybrids tend to heavily rely on one aspect of their build and neglect the other, only using it when they have no other option. This isnt inherently a bad thing, but it will in no way match against a hybrid player who can use BOTH aspects well. A hybrids whole shtick is about being a mix. You cant out magic a mage, you cant out weapon a warrior, and you cant out strength a berserker. Your selling point is being able to tap into MULTIPLE styles of combat where others fall short. Also, its good to be creative with how you fight. Having an unorthodox playstyle would be funner than playing a recommended build that gets stale quickly. You can use sword draws and snares to dodge, you can use reflexes to hide an incoming attack (slightly makes the attacks start animation less noticable) etc. I also agree with your point about aiming. Sure, its a very important skill (essential if you want to be lb), but its ineffective if you dont have good TIMING/POSITIONING. Every move has a cost. Is it worth it? What are the chances of it landing, and what are the chances they are going to take advantage of your endlag and succeed? Id also recommend playing around with other classes, whether that be making alts or sparring different kinds of players. By learning the ins and outs of every move in ao, your situational awareness increases too.
100% agree with everything here. The only reason why i became knowledgeable on all methods of combat (and able to make this series) is because I have 9 saves with various methods of combat and playstyles. And because im so used to so many different classes, from both playing against and playing as, I always have a good fighting chance against anyone I play against.
I agree, a good amount of conjurers i meet tend to forget about their magic especially leap even though its a great way for you to not burn through your stamina too quickly
man it's people like you who rekindle my spark to keep playing arcane despite its unideal conditions (on my end, a very low-end pc and the lack to truly commit to a game for hours on end, and the community doesn't exactly do wonders for both of these given how toxic it can be) my mindset has switched to playing arcane solely for enjoyment--not following the meta and just finding solace in minor things that people normally wouldn't look too far into, like the scenery, getting immersed in the progression, trying to make my own stories for my files and yeah while that can combat my wants to actually play on a level alongside the majority that can actually DO things in the game with no relative difficulty, at the very least i'm not siphoning my life away purely for vassal, just taking my own pace yk? thanks for doing us all a service ^_^
When you mentioned the very small difference between pve and pvp players I lit up a bit. I have less than half player kills compared to my hours on all of my files since release, I've never grinded renown or really ever been considered a 'pvper' and yet i can kill people that I have no business killing. I always used to say that 'the only difference between pvpers and pve players is pvpers have a fragile ego.' and while this is a bit of a generalisation, I'd say it does hold some truth in that pvpers believe themselves to be superior when the skill gap isn't that great. I'll be sending this video around. The ao community needs to see this
Nah that totally holds true. Especially gankers who jump people just grinding stuff out or fishing. The moment you reveal you’re in a party who won’t just stand and let you get killed. Are the first to cry their heads off. It is a valid strategy to find a sub community to join and play with if you don’t have co fence in your skills, you should still work on them though
@@thezestfall1st107 A while back a group of like 4 of us stood against a couple gankers despite none of us being considered full-fledged pvpers and only really doing it for fun. One of us, in fact, has barely touched pvp and was an explosion paladin with an unfinished build. The gankers didn't kill any of us once, even the non pvper paladin. I heard that one of them started complaining in a discord chat afterwards, after we actually fought back. That battle was fun ill never forget it
Nah legit me and my friends got jumped by some guys, and then they complained that we were running size builds at the time 💀. Disrespectful gankers usually have the most fragilist of egos.
@@jamclone i have a similar story to yours, i was in a group of four as well doing some stuff when a person attacked us. none of us are pvper's, and yet once he realised what he got himself into he tried to run away but made a fatal mistake. he backed into a corner, and i was closest to him. i am a magma mage with ~180 power. and i am also using an ultimate art 20 blast. needless to say the rage afterwards was very fun to watch, and is one of my favorite memories of the game thus far.
I loved teaching people how to pvp, I would say I *was* a HIGH teir zerker since day 1, and I always found it fun to teach people how to do pvp with zerker
Thanks man, I suck at pvp, its honestly a bit too fast for me, not to mention my builds tend to be confusing and kinda bad. As an explosion conj, I often would just try to dance around and see when I can get a hit. But knowing to stay a distance more often will be useful, thanks! (Also my weapon set up tends to be weird cause I set it up for mobility (dual swords), massive aoe (The assassin guy's beast claws), and crazy damage (dual bronze flink-locks, I know its really bad for PVP, but it is often devastating in pve) I'd love to see a part 2!
A useful guide that doesnt only go in terms of mechaniqs but also mentality, AO is still far from optimized so keeping a good mind whilst playing instead of ranting problems can be a game changer into getting yourself in the flow of things during PvP and having good fundamentals of what you should use for your advantage.
ngl these the most useful tips out of any ao pvp tutorial I'd do the same but I can only speak for the mage playstyle. i dont know how to play conj, warlock, warrior, berserker, warlord, etc.
Thanks for the praise. I actually wanted to ask, I was the leglord earlier asking about how you use explosion (the spell), I'm pretty mid with magics and I don't understand them very well. My expertise is mostly in weapons. When the series eventually does cover magics specifically, I would really appreciate your input on how to use mage.
as a decent ish pvper myself, this guide is good! Simple yet effective, i like your style 🔥 Though i do have one teeny nitpick Conjurers are split into conj and monj based on their playstles (weapon conj and magic conj respectively) Generally as a copnj you main your weapons and use magic purely for leap and or snare, because thanks to synergies, weapons are WAY more effective than magics at dmg output. Which is why most people play conj and not monj Cant wait to see the next part :3
As with most things practice is going to help so much consistently dueling people is great. Also as a conjurer main yeah a lot of the weapons are not used just for damage but utility allowing you to move around and utilize your magic better.
The treasure chart locater isn’t always right but I found someone with a cool trick; align the map compass with the island name and you instantly have a way better guide than just, “top right, like really right of the island.” Also marking shovels are cracked.
As someone who's sunk 400 hrs in their now gutted main (Light Conjurer). this is such a helpful insight, i had always used magic as second fiddle to weapons will switch it around and see how it goes
Light Conjurer being the slowest conjurer due to a bug rn is wild 💀 Unrelated but ive been playing a lot of light conj recently (since it feels disgusting to use my leglord now), multishot on dual flintlocks are fun (not practical tho).
Thanks I always used a laggy laptop to play arcane odyssey so I never tried to properly learn pvp because the lag always kills me before the player and I always got jumped. Now I'm playing on a library computer an can actually learn through the video and thanks for the tip about usign all your weapons as I have a habit of using only one weapon.
Thanks for the tips! I am trying to get everything the game has to offer me and trying to learn everything I can, and now I can violently friendly ask my friend to spar with me
Theres more than one reason why you should go in the air. Some attacks like beam or blast have an explosion that is larger than the attack itself. If you are in the air, they will have to hit you with the attack and not the explosion, making it harder for them to hit you. You also constantly move in the air, usually down due to gravity. After doing an attack, there might be some time standing still before you dodge. If you are on the ground that is esentially more time on top of the endlag. Do note however that I almost entirely PVE (and only play classes that have magic). This is just what I believe is the case.
You are absolutely correct, I abuse the hell out of explosion sizes constantly. (Even Piercing Shot has an explosion size). I cutted that part out to make digesting info better.
@@stereotypic_asianyup for beams however you can still make it explode next to the person if you’re able to time how long you should charge your beams. Pretty much what I’ve been practicing doing for a while now
I'm going to throw in my two cents here and speak from my experience - The strongest tool is punishing. All builds can do it, and almost all builds are vulnerable to it. Also, learn your opponent. I excel and punishing mistakes I know my friends will make, it's like another boss fight, but you need to keep thinking on your feet. They likey match you in strength and skill, so be creative and unpredictable. Lastly, movement. Not moving is often bad, but sometimes can bait out attacks (shift to dash while charging works so well). You also can't always be airborne, and if you use up all your movement, you can leave yourself wide open. Have mutliple midair options, ways to rapidly change elevation, and dash to evade when necessary, though using it to get it/out of the opponent's face or confuse them is effective. Also, Knights and defence builds- Get up close with any opponent with 1000 health or less. You can almost always trade hits and come out on top
I mean glad I have the "running the fuck away while attacking" part figured out I mean often times when I start getting ganked I just go high up into the sky (mobility/attack speed explosion paladin. Weird combo) and just rain down fury then run the fuck away and rinse and repeat
I think the main thing to remember about pvp is that this game is more build dependent than skill. Using something that's comfortable and practical is more useful than something that yields theoretical dps. Don't cave in to people complaining about your build because whatever you use, someone is going to talk smack about it. And yeah practice practice practice. My personal way of getting better was using an extremely hard build until I just got robotic aim, it's nice having a challenge to push yourself once you are familiar with the fundamentals.
na at the end of the day the game is the most skill dependent for example number 1 eu pvper inteqz can prolly beat over 80 percent of players on a simple mage with just blast and beam
Build dictates your playstyle often but it isnt the only or biggest factor. I usually take off quite a bit of my gear when training newbies and id still win no sweat. It will matter at higher levels of play to a large degree but not necessarillt for your average pvper/ganker
@@stereotypic_asian the significance in skill may be noticeable between someone used to pvp and someone who isn't, but most builds you see nowadays abuses a mechanic to some degree (whether it be size, damage, speed, or just overall ease of use)
@@CindersGD true i guess but the game is skill based at the end of the day a skilled person who can aim will beat someone with a better build. For example a size user loses to someone who knows how to aim
Working on it as we speak 😭 (I know I said that a month ago but my schedule finally cleared up and im starting the actual editing but missing a few components but script is done)
If you dont use some spell or techniques try making them fun like i wasnt using crash cuz it was slow (ice sailor build) so i tried to make that technieq more fun like ading better name or making it spining sledghammer instead of right puch
I mostly overcharge my beams so I remain in the air for too long making me vulnerable to attacks so I learn to slightly charge my beams and attack at medium range. I use Auras (cuz I’m mage) to increase my speed of my attacks so I’m less vulnerable as well. I also practice blocking and parrying a bit more to negate damages done to me and lastly, I am trying to go my best not to be afraid to use surge since it helped me turn the tide in battles quickly as I’m able to deal out high damage without much aiming
as a person who has been pvping since WoM, i noticed that your skill will depend on these three things your ability to dodge and movement your ability to use everything in your kit, with its max advantage and last but definitely not least, your ping :/ but for your ability to win fights, your build is very important
We definitely need the gear build video, trying to fight with crap gear is damn near a death sentence unless you are just that skilled. Saw a dude with 1k health wondering why he was getting wrecked by someone with a higher power and defense stat than him.
Uh. 💀. Planning to release next vid before next update but im ngl i dont have the motivation and ive been having not a lot of time. Im ngl, laziness got to me.
Crystalline powerful fair power amulet Crystalline powerful ileg shoulderpads w/ 2x fire opal (i reccomend swapping for candelarias) Brisk calvus cape w/ 2x morenci Armored SW chest w/ 2x candelarias Brisk SW leggings w/ 2x candelarias You can use cernyx instead of SW if youre on a budget. Im mainly waiting on the ileg imbue into wep buff to start playing my leglord again, should be coming in a nearby balance hotfix
AO PvP is so one sided 9 times out of 10 unless you are at the very top of your game and have the best builds and experience to help fight back. That high skill ceiling coupled with the expectation of always having the best gear and abilities possible makes the whole idea of PvP in this game more frustrating than fun. Because of this fact, many players don’t realize how easy PvP is because the few times they try it’s an absolute landslide in the other player’s favor. They just convince themselves they aren’t good enough and never try again.
While I dont agree with needing the best builds to do well with PVP. I completely agree with the one sidedness and soul crushing feeling of never being able to compete with pvp. That was one of the reasons that made me start this series actually. The community for the game can be extremely toxic (both pve'rs and pvp'rs) and I hope by making this series, the gap in between them will lessen and somewhat ease toxicity. Having a constant cycle of hatred for a different type of player as well as constant shame and doubt in your own skill is probably one of the main reasons why AO was never able to fully flourish and reach a wider audience.
honestly charts are really easy for me so i dont usually do that app thing, but i always grind charts on either max level or for early level up for lvl 20-80 since its free ''decent gear''
Different armor stats have different progressions. Some stats such as attack size and attack speed are more effective the more you have while other stats such as power and defense are less effective the more you have.
I wouldnt say that necessarilly. Power and def scale linearly, atk spd atk size, and agility have diminishing returns but feel more significant at high amounts.
I found someone come back to play, he says he used to kill warlords of the sea for snack but now he need to relearn evrything, and ofc since im vary bored at the time i gave him a few tip that instanly make him 84% pvp skill back
2 tips for fellow mages, 1. snares give you I frames so use them as frequently as you can but dont spam them because if its cd isnt over or if you miss you will be punished hard 2. make sure to use different explosions on different magics like pillar and sphere , if they're in the air you can use pillar and if they're on the ground use sphere
I have a small quibble about the "stay off the ground" bit. Doing so is important, yes, but if you stay in the air TOO much, it can seriously impair your mobility, particularly if you haven't reached level 100 and/or missed the NPC at Whitesummit who will let you unlock the ability to dodge in midair. I have personal experience with this issue; when I first started with Arcane Odyssey, I was heavily reliant on hovering in a single spot in midair, which is admittedly a viable tactic in early-game PvE, before enemies begin using magic and the lack of a midair dodge becomes an issue. Then I ran into General Argos. It took me twenty consecutive deaths to that boss before I FINALLY realized that I NEEDED to stay ON the ground more to stay mobile enough to evade his attacks and prevent him from murdering me in a matter of seconds. The moral? Yes, jumping around and adding verticality to your movement is important for evasion, but you shouldn't do it to the point that you aren't touching the ground frequently enough to refresh your dodges and thus impairing your ability to evade attacks. You need to strike a balance between staying off the ground and touching it frequently enough that you stay mobile.
I can confirm that this Asian dude is correct (coming from another Asian dude) My PvP improved just by watching this video. I didn't kill him, he ran away :D
I think warlord is just a very good starting class, it’s my first save and I picked it bc it sounded cool, the aoe for it is UNFORGIVING if you can use it properly and you can pair a saber with sailor style or iron leg aoe. Basically, I love warlord, warlord is cool, most people who main warlord are cool, I don’t like sailor ice people bc I have skill issue and they have big fast attacks
I had noticed that anytime I use a weapons build other than warlord I suck But with like magic or fighting style builds I’m actually somewhat decent at in pvp My recent pvp video even shows it
since i started pvping a month ago i improved a lot but theres something the people with lots of player kills more than me have, it can be one of those or just one, an amount of atk size u cant dodge , an amount of intensity that is gonna have no death no matter what without the oponent fighting back anymore or they just have better reflexes irl, they just process the information in their brains faster, is not about meta, they are skilled irl
its not them, its u. dont be intimidated by players with lots of pks and hrs, its a good opportunity to fight them. even tho u might lose, dont be afraid to fail you'll usually learn a thing or two from fighting good players. Take note of their class, weapons, build, playstyle as you will expand your understanding on how to play with or counter certain classes which is esp useful for climbing lb. As you with the current ecosystem of aoe demons running rampant, parrying is ur best friend and dont take fights you know you wont win ( watch out for gankers ) even tho they might call you "runner" or "fodder". I've seen people with half decent aim climb lb
Heres another thing. High PK most of the time means they just fight anyone they see, and 90% of players dont pvp. That just means they mostly fight easy opponents. Of course not 100% of the time, but you might actually have a good chance to beat them. I can fight against some players that have more than 4x the amt of PK as me and still win sometimes. PK does not equate at all to skill.
Obligatory not a pvp sweat but, another tip i think should be accounted for is that, the gear you run can also change how you play in some cases, for example I run a 184 power, 1k defense 6 drawback build with vindi, triasta and sunken staff (yes i know, all size warrior gear) and i find that playing hyper aggressive as if i was a warlord is really effective. second tip for people playing warlord, if you need practice using your fighting style, do some pvp with thermo, since you cant charge it before a fight anymore, you have to use it mid fight which can serve as god practice for actually using your fs.
the air stalling part is similar to blox fruits pvp where if u sky camp u usually win bcz its harder for small hitbox moves to hit when ur target is in the sky especially when the moves dont have proximity trigger or grabs, and skycamping is so meta that if u use it u are considered a scumbag
Same thing here but to a much lesser degree. Aiming at someone above you is much harder than someone below you. Though it isnt considered nearly as scummy since theres too many different movement options that can shut down airstallers.
My problem with pvp is the fact I wanna be cool and make a cool character. I usually choose the super out of meta magics and use them with super out of meta builds for those magics. The results are really cool stuff like poison warlock but my poison warlock is nothing in the face of the local 400 damage beam spam ice mage. Tho my time will soon come with vitality(it’s cool and hopefully it can keep up with the aoe warrior sunken staff spammer)
It is very possible to make non meta builds work. I have a knight with no defense and high agility (and actually pvp with it), sand conj, etc. If you know and make your build well enough and got strong enough fundamentals, you can go decently far with non meta builds.
Yeah, honestly, the difference between PVP and PVE players is 1. gear, and 2. Meta knowledge. Just getting a decent gearset, dosnt even need to be sunkens, will MASSIVELY help, and the same is true for your attacks, makeing a good weapon or good spell will massively help. As a mage, here are some tips I can give: 1. Blast shape should be cube, the AOE makes it really good, just try to aim for where the enemy will be, not where they are. 2. Beams are nice, but deal less damage than blasts 3. Shockwave placed explosions are really good 4. PULSAR PULSAR PULSAR, its OBSCENELY strong
Horizontal slash can really punish if they don't go off the ground. It also helps if there's lots of rubble or piles. Also snare is actually pretty good now. It used to be so inconsistent, but now even with a small magic like lightning you can totally use it to punish opponents for getting too close. It can also be used in pve when fighting captains since they can't attack you while you have them grabbed.
i feel like my biggest issue is just my timing is terrible. i know /when/ to block, but its usually after i use my weapon/magic, so i dont actually block at all. and also i think my nervousness makes me just forget where different keys are, or something like that. it's like 90% being nervous i think
Honestly. I did not think about that. This is a really good point that ill need to find a way around. When i first started pvping, especially when i get ganked, my hands would shake real badly, still happens a little now. Ill look into things that can help calm the player down 👍
i get way too intimidated when i get forced into a fight and start panicking all over the place-- using random moves not acknowledging my opponent due to the pressure and i dont know what 2 do ab it
Before when I got jumped by people, my hands would shake violently ngl and id panic too. There is somethings that you can do but unfortunately youll just have to train it out of your system for the most part. From what I can understand from what youre telling me, I beleive youre dealing with two issues which are panic and anxiousness. Panic that you cant process info, and anxious that you know you HAVE to do something but you dont know what. Itll be hard to do but try to first just simply information into digestible bits. First. Who is your opponent? Aoe or speed? Both? Stat build? Just having that little bit of information already tells you a lot on their playstyle, aims, and what moves they can or will do. Second. Where is your opponent? What are they doing at this moment? Keep in mind of their positioning and if their timing can allow them to do a move with little consequence. Third. Where is your position? Is the time right for you to do anything? If you have a good position and time window to do something, go for it. If youre not sure or not in a good case scenario, dont. You will have to make split second decisions and youre not going to be able to process everything in time and thats okay. You can always play patient and wait to strategize or find an opening. Dont force out an attack that youre not sure will help you at all. IGNORE EVERYTHING ELSE. Refer to only these three pieces of info. Maybe in wars things might get more complciated than this but right now youre learning and simplicity is key. You can always learn more and do more once youre comfortable and trained to do so. Just work with the information you have at the moment and try to make the best possible judgement out of it. You will make mistakes and have bad judgement at times and thats fine, it still happens to me and ive learnt a lot over the past months. Practice irons out these mistakes overtime. Be patient with both your gameplay and yourself and you will see rewards gradually. Feel free to message more if you still have questions.
Follow up on my last comment. Once you get those 3 parts down. You can start incorporating resource management into gameplay. Health, energy, stamina, cooldowns, etc. But for right now just focus purely on being able to process info quickly and effeciently without panicking.
"don't be discouraged" Me who joined from world of magic having been here for over a year being bullied by literally every player that isn't new: (how can bro have only taken 3 months)
Most players from what i know arent agressive as long as you leave them alone. Just being friendly and respectful to people usually can do a lot, even if it starts off as hostile. If you can, make a friend that can spar with you. The more skilled your opponent the better for your growth. The game has a suprisingly very easy learning curve that looks intimidating at first, but from personal experience, you can easily solo with studying without a consistent sparring partner. Feel free to ask more and Ill help where I can.
well im shadow mage and when it comes to pvp i usualy just gas my enemy witch poison magic wgile chocking whide range shadow atacks at my clouds hopint that i hit my enemy
about the timing i can aprove that at least on bosses because as a noob with a strong magic (idk witch one exactly) i lost against lord elius ans now i have won with wins magic (crappy damage ) wile still being like lvl 40 or something (way under level) just because i timed my attacs right and abused his endlag
That Mr_waddlingduck dude is bad
Why?
@@finnleyjack331it was a joke lol look at my name
Better than you
Mfs didnt even realise thats him 🙏
@@aPeasant No way 😧😧⁉️
This is a really nice breakdown of the basics because it also helps people understand what they might be good at based on the effective ranges and playstyles of the classes
Step 1: consider fighting back when you’re getting hunted. Practicing in unideal situations generally yields more benefits than constantly being smothered by the “rules” in a fair fight. Even if they’re one of those guys that have 1.1k kills in 50 hours, allot of those kills just come from them either killing the same person over and over again during a practice (which gets them accustomed to the “rules” and is also why they’re usually incredibly petty when they lose) or from killing the average ravenna level 93 random.
TLDR: more pvp can only be beneficial for your improvement.
All right that was my ted talk see you guys next tuesday
I wouldn't really say its a tedtalk, its only 3-4 sentences
Not many rules in a friendly 1v1 tho... just not using potions isnt exactly an idealised version of fighting as most ppl wont make use of them even when hunting
Fighting in unideal situations will not necessarely help you any more than any other situation. What matter's is to learn while you fight, and that needs to be done consciously, otherwise It doesn't matter the situation you will not be learning anything.
I was just playing. He jumped me after a dark sea expedition CUS I WAS POOR. (was using a caravel)
I couldn't kill him because I suck, but during our first fight I was on the upper hand and he ran away.
Then he was generally an asshole.
But it's funnier watching them cry when I hit them with love gels, ESPECIALLY when they don't know how to undo it
It's nice to see someone who's friendly about pvp, let alone someone who wants to help others get better at it.
Suprisingly too rare
LITERALLY!! ive been trying to upgrade my build and im just over halfway through the video and there is SOOOOO much more to it than what i thought!!
I just learned so much and wasn't shamed for my lack of everything. I thank you from the bottom of my heart
actual good beginners guide ngl, but once u get the basics down its all about practice and playing A LOT
gyatt!
Easy for people who dont go to college or don’t take much classes in high school of college. Really damn hard when you have so much work you can’t practice pvp. (I am the one swamped with work, the only thing carrying me in being good at pvp despite being rusty right now is meta magic and stats. Tho I do wanna start coming back because vitality sounds sick and I wanna use) Edit: yeah I’m afraid to say I broke my oath of never becoming a metal mage with 200 size
College student as well. And yeah i get what you mean by just not having time, something that can help with this is just having specific and good practice. Have a competent sparring partner and understand your kit/moveset better. A competent sparring partner will piece you up when you make a mistake and that will be how you find what youre doing wrong the quickest.
@@stereotypic_asian my problem is I don’t have a sparring partner and can really only go ask for fights or get people to jump me via high fame/bounty
Join archronos pvp server, theres pvp sessions held constantly there. Elysiums are constantly being open. I can say pretty much everyone there too is well skilled or even better at pvp than me. Just ask around and im sure someone will help you. Server link is in vids description.
Not a good pvper by any standards (size crutch), but I met this dude and helped him with how to warrior and some mechanics... He absolutely devastated me within an hour. I don't know if I should be happy or feel bad about myself. Just to note, I would green him the first couple of rounds before I gave advice. Now I'm thinking buddy is an alt.
It is suprising how quickly people can learn pvp lol
someone taught me how to warlock and thats the reason why im good at pvp'ing, i didnt friend him but i respect the man
Pvp in alot of different games are very similar, so when you realise this and how to implement previous skills your gains suddenly skyrocket
Agreed. Most of my skill for this game derived from Brawlhalla and R6S of all things
True I mostly got better by asking ppl to PvP and bounty hunting, just keep doing it and results will show eventually
a good thing to remember is that counters are always stronger than throwing attacks.
Probably the best pvp guide i’ve ever seen
Just by using both magic and weapons as a conjurer instead of relying on just weapons, attacking less on the ground and going up close to attack I already beat my first pvp battle
YOOO I NEEDED THIS THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! PLEASE MAKE A PART TWO!! ❤❤❤❤
YES, ive been saying this for so long. Hybrids tend to heavily rely on one aspect of their build and neglect the other, only using it when they have no other option. This isnt inherently a bad thing, but it will in no way match against a hybrid player who can use BOTH aspects well. A hybrids whole shtick is about being a mix. You cant out magic a mage, you cant out weapon a warrior, and you cant out strength a berserker. Your selling point is being able to tap into MULTIPLE styles of combat where others fall short.
Also, its good to be creative with how you fight. Having an unorthodox playstyle would be funner than playing a recommended build that gets stale quickly. You can use sword draws and snares to dodge, you can use reflexes to hide an incoming attack (slightly makes the attacks start animation less noticable) etc.
I also agree with your point about aiming. Sure, its a very important skill (essential if you want to be lb), but its ineffective if you dont have good TIMING/POSITIONING. Every move has a cost. Is it worth it? What are the chances of it landing, and what are the chances they are going to take advantage of your endlag and succeed?
Id also recommend playing around with other classes, whether that be making alts or sparring different kinds of players. By learning the ins and outs of every move in ao, your situational awareness increases too.
100% agree with everything here. The only reason why i became knowledgeable on all methods of combat (and able to make this series) is because I have 9 saves with various methods of combat and playstyles. And because im so used to so many different classes, from both playing against and playing as, I always have a good fighting chance against anyone I play against.
I agree, a good amount of conjurers i meet tend to forget about their magic especially leap even though its a great way for you to not burn through your stamina too quickly
man it's people like you who rekindle my spark to keep playing arcane despite its unideal conditions (on my end, a very low-end pc and the lack to truly commit to a game for hours on end, and the community doesn't exactly do wonders for both of these given how toxic it can be)
my mindset has switched to playing arcane solely for enjoyment--not following the meta and just finding solace in minor things that people normally wouldn't look too far into, like the scenery, getting immersed in the progression, trying to make my own stories for my files
and yeah while that can combat my wants to actually play on a level alongside the majority that can actually DO things in the game with no relative difficulty, at the very least i'm not siphoning my life away purely for vassal, just taking my own pace yk?
thanks for doing us all a service ^_^
weapons are complimentary to your magic/fs.
I didn't think about it that way. thanks a lot
When you mentioned the very small difference between pve and pvp players I lit up a bit. I have less than half player kills compared to my hours on all of my files since release, I've never grinded renown or really ever been considered a 'pvper' and yet i can kill people that I have no business killing.
I always used to say that 'the only difference between pvpers and pve players is pvpers have a fragile ego.' and while this is a bit of a generalisation, I'd say it does hold some truth in that pvpers believe themselves to be superior when the skill gap isn't that great.
I'll be sending this video around. The ao community needs to see this
Nah that totally holds true. Especially gankers who jump people just grinding stuff out or fishing. The moment you reveal you’re in a party who won’t just stand and let you get killed. Are the first to cry their heads off.
It is a valid strategy to find a sub community to join and play with if you don’t have co fence in your skills, you should still work on them though
@@thezestfall1st107 A while back a group of like 4 of us stood against a couple gankers despite none of us being considered full-fledged pvpers and only really doing it for fun. One of us, in fact, has barely touched pvp and was an explosion paladin with an unfinished build. The gankers didn't kill any of us once, even the non pvper paladin.
I heard that one of them started complaining in a discord chat afterwards, after we actually fought back. That battle was fun ill never forget it
Nah legit me and my friends got jumped by some guys, and then they complained that we were running size builds at the time 💀. Disrespectful gankers usually have the most fragilist of egos.
@@stereotypic_asian In that gank on us, one of em was complaining about two of us using instant 20 blast builds (we still are). It was so funny
@@jamclone i have a similar story to yours, i was in a group of four as well doing some stuff when a person attacked us. none of us are pvper's, and yet once he realised what he got himself into he tried to run away but made a fatal mistake. he backed into a corner, and i was closest to him. i am a magma mage with ~180 power. and i am also using an ultimate art 20 blast. needless to say the rage afterwards was very fun to watch, and is one of my favorite memories of the game thus far.
I loved teaching people how to pvp, I would say I *was* a HIGH teir zerker since day 1, and I always found it fun to teach people how to do pvp with zerker
Thank you man me and my brother play this and he win most of the time and when i was looking at video to listen to while i grind you pop up
thx so much for these tips!!! i am SOOO glad someone FINALLY decided to spill the tea!!
im glad i could help!
Thanks man, I suck at pvp, its honestly a bit too fast for me, not to mention my builds tend to be confusing and kinda bad. As an explosion conj, I often would just try to dance around and see when I can get a hit. But knowing to stay a distance more often will be useful, thanks! (Also my weapon set up tends to be weird cause I set it up for mobility (dual swords), massive aoe (The assassin guy's beast claws), and crazy damage (dual bronze flink-locks, I know its really bad for PVP, but it is often devastating in pve)
I'd love to see a part 2!
Reminds me of my ultimate fighting style video in a good way. Nice to see someone out to educate!
A useful guide that doesnt only go in terms of mechaniqs but also mentality, AO is still far from optimized so keeping a good mind whilst playing instead of ranting problems can be a game changer into getting yourself in the flow of things during PvP and having good fundamentals of what you should use for your advantage.
ngl these the most useful tips out of any ao pvp tutorial
I'd do the same but I can only speak for the mage playstyle. i dont know how to play conj, warlock, warrior, berserker, warlord, etc.
Thanks for the praise. I actually wanted to ask, I was the leglord earlier asking about how you use explosion (the spell), I'm pretty mid with magics and I don't understand them very well. My expertise is mostly in weapons. When the series eventually does cover magics specifically, I would really appreciate your input on how to use mage.
@@stereotypic_asian bet 👀
oh my god who also reconized the epic battle fantasy music holy hell i am old
*edit for contex the music begins playing at **6:52*
as a decent ish pvper myself, this guide is good!
Simple yet effective, i like your style 🔥
Though i do have one teeny nitpick
Conjurers are split into conj and monj based on their playstles (weapon conj and magic conj respectively)
Generally as a copnj you main your weapons and use magic purely for leap and or snare, because thanks to synergies, weapons are WAY more effective than magics at dmg output. Which is why most people play conj and not monj
Cant wait to see the next part :3
As with most things practice is going to help so much consistently dueling people is great. Also as a conjurer main yeah a lot of the weapons are not used just for damage but utility allowing you to move around and utilize your magic better.
W editing sub earned like the transition when u died to part 1 is w
The treasure chart locater isn’t always right but I found someone with a cool trick; align the map compass with the island name and you instantly have a way better guide than just, “top right, like really right of the island.” Also marking shovels are cracked.
this will be helpful for upcoming pvpers, I really love to see part 2!
As someone who's sunk 400 hrs in their now gutted main (Light Conjurer).
this is such a helpful insight, i had always used magic as second fiddle to weapons will switch it around and see how it goes
Light Conjurer being the slowest conjurer due to a bug rn is wild 💀
Unrelated but ive been playing a lot of light conj recently (since it feels disgusting to use my leglord now), multishot on dual flintlocks are fun (not practical tho).
@@stereotypic_asian oh wait thats why it felt so wonky when i played the update 😭
Thanks I always used a laggy laptop to play arcane odyssey so I never tried to properly learn pvp because the lag always kills me before the player and I always got jumped. Now I'm playing on a library computer an can actually learn through the video and thanks for the tip about usign all your weapons as I have a habit of using only one weapon.
Yep. Saving this for later. I made this choice as soon as I heard that breakcore. Hell yeah!!
I'm trying to find what I'm good at but this helps me in overall combat thank you
Thanks for the tips! I am trying to get everything the game has to offer me and trying to learn everything I can, and now I can violently friendly ask my friend to spar with me
I did that too lmao.
Theres more than one reason why you should go in the air.
Some attacks like beam or blast have an explosion that is larger than the attack itself. If you are in the air, they will have to hit you with the attack and not the explosion, making it harder for them to hit you.
You also constantly move in the air, usually down due to gravity. After doing an attack, there might be some time standing still before you dodge. If you are on the ground that is esentially more time on top of the endlag.
Do note however that I almost entirely PVE (and only play classes that have magic). This is just what I believe is the case.
You are absolutely correct, I abuse the hell out of explosion sizes constantly. (Even Piercing Shot has an explosion size). I cutted that part out to make digesting info better.
@@stereotypic_asianyup for beams however you can still make it explode next to the person if you’re able to time how long you should charge your beams. Pretty much what I’ve been practicing doing for a while now
I will be awaiting pt.2, just so I can send it to my defenseless friend
1:03 that was hella smooth
Great Video, doesn't help me but is sure to help newer pvpers 👍
now i feel less confident about thinking i suck!
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Wow, great beginners guide! I can give some pointers on how to elevate your gameplay even higher if you want!
Id like to hear
This really make me understand about the basics of pvp in Arcane Odyssey. Thank you :D
Im glad I could help!
I see this so much when i pvp my friend, i can beat them in a 2V1. And when i try to help them idk how to explain but you do it so well
8:32 what😂
Teaching is a skill in itself. I just happened to have lots of experience teaching my friends with stuff in school and other games before.
Thanks man, I'll try using it
Bro is cooking. I need that part 2.
I'm going to throw in my two cents here and speak from my experience -
The strongest tool is punishing. All builds can do it, and almost all builds are vulnerable to it. Also, learn your opponent. I excel and punishing mistakes I know my friends will make, it's like another boss fight, but you need to keep thinking on your feet. They likey match you in strength and skill, so be creative and unpredictable. Lastly, movement. Not moving is often bad, but sometimes can bait out attacks (shift to dash while charging works so well). You also can't always be airborne, and if you use up all your movement, you can leave yourself wide open. Have mutliple midair options, ways to rapidly change elevation, and dash to evade when necessary, though using it to get it/out of the opponent's face or confuse them is effective.
Also, Knights and defence builds- Get up close with any opponent with 1000 health or less. You can almost always trade hits and come out on top
Please keep doing these. This video was awesome
I mean glad I have the "running the fuck away while attacking" part figured out
I mean often times when I start getting ganked I just go high up into the sky (mobility/attack speed explosion paladin. Weird combo) and just rain down fury then run the fuck away and rinse and repeat
I think the main thing to remember about pvp is that this game is more build dependent than skill. Using something that's comfortable and practical is more useful than something that yields theoretical dps. Don't cave in to people complaining about your build because whatever you use, someone is going to talk smack about it. And yeah practice practice practice.
My personal way of getting better was using an extremely hard build until I just got robotic aim, it's nice having a challenge to push yourself once you are familiar with the fundamentals.
na at the end of the day the game is the most skill dependent for example number 1 eu pvper inteqz can prolly beat over 80 percent of players on a simple mage with just blast and beam
Build dictates your playstyle often but it isnt the only or biggest factor. I usually take off quite a bit of my gear when training newbies and id still win no sweat. It will matter at higher levels of play to a large degree but not necessarillt for your average pvper/ganker
@@MadacInWonderland ironically mage happens to be one of the most op classes rn, alongside blast and beam
@@stereotypic_asian the significance in skill may be noticeable between someone used to pvp and someone who isn't, but most builds you see nowadays abuses a mechanic to some degree (whether it be size, damage, speed, or just overall ease of use)
@@CindersGD true i guess but the game is skill based at the end of the day a skilled person who can aim will beat someone with a better build. For example a size user
loses to someone who knows how to aim
I might actually get good at pvp after this bless up chi 🙏🏾
i absolutely fell in love with crystal conj lol, its too good, i got like a 2.8k hp 300-400 dmg base attacks lol
Very good guide, we need a part 2!!!!!!!!
Working on it as we speak 😭
(I know I said that a month ago but my schedule finally cleared up and im starting the actual editing but missing a few components but script is done)
@@stereotypic_asian take your time. You dont have to rush things.
If you dont use some spell or techniques try making them fun like i wasnt using crash cuz it was slow (ice sailor build) so i tried to make that technieq more fun like ading better name or making it spining sledghammer instead of right puch
vanity truly is the endgame of ao
the mindset tip is so real
I mostly overcharge my beams so I remain in the air for too long making me vulnerable to attacks so I learn to slightly charge my beams and attack at medium range.
I use Auras (cuz I’m mage) to increase my speed of my attacks so I’m less vulnerable as well. I also practice blocking and parrying a bit more to negate damages done to me and
lastly, I am trying to go my best not to be afraid to use surge since it helped me turn the tide in battles quickly as I’m able to deal out high damage without much aiming
My personal stand on pvp is: The limit is how hard you can (or are allowed to) ball.
as a person who has been pvping since WoM, i noticed that your skill will depend on these three things
your ability to dodge and movement
your ability to use everything in your kit, with its max advantage
and last but definitely not least, your ping :/
but for your ability to win fights, your build is very important
i put this comment before watching the video, glad that you also gave out the same points
We definitely need the gear build video, trying to fight with crap gear is damn near a death sentence unless you are just that skilled. Saw a dude with 1k health wondering why he was getting wrecked by someone with a higher power and defense stat than him.
8:28 Shadow *somewhat* synergies with light, even if its a small damage decrease, the blindness both magics give you can be insane
If its from you, then yes somewhat. However if its 2 people with light and shadow, there is a -25% damage synergy.
As a iron leg warlord this video was very helpful and gave a lot of confidence... waiting for next part
Uh. 💀.
Planning to release next vid before next update but im ngl i dont have the motivation and ive been having not a lot of time. Im ngl, laziness got to me.
@@stereotypic_asian ok the update came and we are patiently waiting for the next video 😊
@@hinaThoma yeah 💀
i prob have to redo a lot on the vid due to the update. lots of interesting changes and the game feels fresh. good update overall.
@@stereotypic_asian best of luck for the video and if you don't mind you love to see your warlord build😅
Crystalline powerful fair power amulet
Crystalline powerful ileg shoulderpads w/ 2x fire opal (i reccomend swapping for candelarias)
Brisk calvus cape w/ 2x morenci
Armored SW chest w/ 2x candelarias
Brisk SW leggings w/ 2x candelarias
You can use cernyx instead of SW if youre on a budget. Im mainly waiting on the ileg imbue into wep buff to start playing my leglord again, should be coming in a nearby balance hotfix
very helpfull thanks u deserve a sub
AO PvP is so one sided 9 times out of 10 unless you are at the very top of your game and have the best builds and experience to help fight back. That high skill ceiling coupled with the expectation of always having the best gear and abilities possible makes the whole idea of PvP in this game more frustrating than fun.
Because of this fact, many players don’t realize how easy PvP is because the few times they try it’s an absolute landslide in the other player’s favor. They just convince themselves they aren’t good enough and never try again.
While I dont agree with needing the best builds to do well with PVP. I completely agree with the one sidedness and soul crushing feeling of never being able to compete with pvp. That was one of the reasons that made me start this series actually. The community for the game can be extremely toxic (both pve'rs and pvp'rs) and I hope by making this series, the gap in between them will lessen and somewhat ease toxicity.
Having a constant cycle of hatred for a different type of player as well as constant shame and doubt in your own skill is probably one of the main reasons why AO was never able to fully flourish and reach a wider audience.
honestly charts are really easy for me so i dont usually do that app thing, but i always grind charts on either max level or for early level up for lvl 20-80 since its free ''decent gear''
Different armor stats have different progressions. Some stats such as attack size and attack speed are more effective the more you have while other stats such as power and defense are less effective the more you have.
I wouldnt say that necessarilly. Power and def scale linearly, atk spd atk size, and agility have diminishing returns but feel more significant at high amounts.
Also forgot to even say but waddling is a fast mfing learner like bro rocks all our asses😭
Bros created a monster
I found someone come back to play, he says he used to kill warlords of the sea for snack but now he need to relearn evrything, and ofc since im vary bored at the time i gave him a few tip that instanly make him 84% pvp skill back
Im laughing so hard cuz when he know thare is no such thing as "stun" anymore (he's a lightning sailor)
Keep blud dreaming!
2 tips for fellow mages,
1. snares give you I frames so use them as frequently as you can but dont spam them because if its cd isnt over or if you miss you will be punished hard
2. make sure to use different explosions on different magics like pillar and sphere , if they're in the air you can use pillar and if they're on the ground use sphere
@@adith2225 so Mage isn't for me, greeeat... snare is a loose Cannon :[
@@theflaminggroundon632 you can still go mage without snare but I would recommend higher agility
@@adith2225 words... :(
@@theflaminggroundon632 ?
Straight up, this helped a lot so much I can't describe thank you so much for making this video
Glad i could help 👍
definitely make a gear vid, this was great
W advice imma take it goat
#banossencs
Lol i used to have no self confidence while pvping but i tried it once and realized i was pretty good at it
god, if a pt2 was released it woudl help me SO much. pls pls pls
Soon.... ish. Writing script rn and its already 4 pages and im arnd halfway done with that.
Really informative. 👍
One thing you forgot to mention about fighting styles is that they struggle to deal with airborne opponents. Other than that, great guide.
True, i forgot about that. Best you can do is get as close as possible with crash and charge a shot.
@@stereotypic_asian you could possibly crash, Shockwave, then Selino, but nonetheless, it's pretty hard to pull off
Not keeping your distance, even in the air is dangerous, not keeping your distance from both the enemy and the ground is suicide.
I have a small quibble about the "stay off the ground" bit. Doing so is important, yes, but if you stay in the air TOO much, it can seriously impair your mobility, particularly if you haven't reached level 100 and/or missed the NPC at Whitesummit who will let you unlock the ability to dodge in midair. I have personal experience with this issue; when I first started with Arcane Odyssey, I was heavily reliant on hovering in a single spot in midair, which is admittedly a viable tactic in early-game PvE, before enemies begin using magic and the lack of a midair dodge becomes an issue. Then I ran into General Argos. It took me twenty consecutive deaths to that boss before I FINALLY realized that I NEEDED to stay ON the ground more to stay mobile enough to evade his attacks and prevent him from murdering me in a matter of seconds.
The moral? Yes, jumping around and adding verticality to your movement is important for evasion, but you shouldn't do it to the point that you aren't touching the ground frequently enough to refresh your dodges and thus impairing your ability to evade attacks. You need to strike a balance between staying off the ground and touching it frequently enough that you stay mobile.
Yeah there is an important distinction between just staying off the ground and airstalling that I didnt mention in the video.
i desperately needed this as a level 140 who died to a level 110 😭😭😭😭
I can confirm that this Asian dude is correct (coming from another Asian dude)
My PvP improved just by watching this video. I didn't kill him, he ran away :D
This video apply's too with arcane reborn, cuz the combats are similar
SOOO, ty :>
Nice vid, will defo help new ppl
I think warlord is just a very good starting class, it’s my first save and I picked it bc it sounded cool, the aoe for it is UNFORGIVING if you can use it properly and you can pair a saber with sailor style or iron leg aoe. Basically, I love warlord, warlord is cool, most people who main warlord are cool, I don’t like sailor ice people bc I have skill issue and they have big fast attacks
AO Combat is similar to irl combat. Pressure, defense, countering and movement.
I had noticed that anytime I use a weapons build other than warlord I suck
But with like magic or fighting style builds I’m actually somewhat decent at in pvp
My recent pvp video even shows it
came for the guide, stayed for the amen breaks
since i started pvping a month ago i improved a lot but theres something the people with lots of player kills more than me have, it can be one of those or just one, an amount of atk size u cant dodge , an amount of intensity that is gonna have no death no matter what without the oponent fighting back anymore or they just have better reflexes irl, they just process the information in their brains faster, is not about meta, they are skilled irl
its not them, its u. dont be intimidated by players with lots of pks and hrs, its a good opportunity to fight them. even tho u might lose, dont be afraid to fail you'll usually learn a thing or two from fighting good players. Take note of their class, weapons, build, playstyle as you will expand your understanding on how to play with or counter certain classes which is esp useful for climbing lb. As you with the current ecosystem of aoe demons running rampant, parrying is ur best friend and dont take fights you know you wont win ( watch out for gankers ) even tho they might call you "runner" or "fodder". I've seen people with half decent aim climb lb
Heres another thing. High PK most of the time means they just fight anyone they see, and 90% of players dont pvp. That just means they mostly fight easy opponents. Of course not 100% of the time, but you might actually have a good chance to beat them. I can fight against some players that have more than 4x the amt of PK as me and still win sometimes. PK does not equate at all to skill.
Obligatory not a pvp sweat but, another tip i think should be accounted for is that, the gear you run can also change how you play in some cases, for example I run a 184 power, 1k defense 6 drawback build with vindi, triasta and sunken staff (yes i know, all size warrior gear) and i find that playing hyper aggressive as if i was a warlord is really effective.
second tip for people playing warlord, if you need practice using your fighting style, do some pvp with thermo, since you cant charge it before a fight anymore, you have to use it mid fight which can serve as god practice for actually using your fs.
the air stalling part is similar to blox fruits pvp where if u sky camp u usually win bcz its harder for small hitbox moves to hit when ur target is in the sky especially when the moves dont have proximity trigger or grabs, and skycamping is so meta that if u use it u are considered a scumbag
Same thing here but to a much lesser degree. Aiming at someone above you is much harder than someone below you. Though it isnt considered nearly as scummy since theres too many different movement options that can shut down airstallers.
This is really helpful
My problem with pvp is the fact I wanna be cool and make a cool character. I usually choose the super out of meta magics and use them with super out of meta builds for those magics. The results are really cool stuff like poison warlock but my poison warlock is nothing in the face of the local 400 damage beam spam ice mage. Tho my time will soon come with vitality(it’s cool and hopefully it can keep up with the aoe warrior sunken staff spammer)
It is very possible to make non meta builds work. I have a knight with no defense and high agility (and actually pvp with it), sand conj, etc. If you know and make your build well enough and got strong enough fundamentals, you can go decently far with non meta builds.
Yeah, honestly, the difference between PVP and PVE players is 1. gear, and 2. Meta knowledge. Just getting a decent gearset, dosnt even need to be sunkens, will MASSIVELY help, and the same is true for your attacks, makeing a good weapon or good spell will massively help. As a mage, here are some tips I can give:
1. Blast shape should be cube, the AOE makes it really good, just try to aim for where the enemy will be, not where they are.
2. Beams are nice, but deal less damage than blasts
3. Shockwave placed explosions are really good
4. PULSAR PULSAR PULSAR, its OBSCENELY strong
Horizontal slash can really punish if they don't go off the ground. It also helps if there's lots of rubble or piles.
Also snare is actually pretty good now. It used to be so inconsistent, but now even with a small magic like lightning you can totally use it to punish opponents for getting too close. It can also be used in pve when fighting captains since they can't attack you while you have them grabbed.
1:02 what do you do when ur low health and u see a fury of the sea
❌run
✔walk inside it
Too short of a distance and environment would not be friendly for moving around. Best I could do there was pray I had enough health 💀
F in chat for my old computer, I actually raged and broke the screen due to losing in a World Of Magic duel (I thought he abused latency)
PLEASE MAKE ANOTHER
bro pls make a part 2, i need this
Haha explosion magic go 🔥
No. (I have an plasma/explosion mage so i cant prob say much lol)
I learn this the hard way + Off Server PvPing
O u c h
i feel like my biggest issue is just my timing is terrible. i know /when/ to block, but its usually after i use my weapon/magic, so i dont actually block at all. and also i think my nervousness makes me just forget where different keys are, or something like that. it's like 90% being nervous i think
Honestly. I did not think about that. This is a really good point that ill need to find a way around. When i first started pvping, especially when i get ganked, my hands would shake real badly, still happens a little now. Ill look into things that can help calm the player down 👍
i get way too intimidated when i get forced into a fight and start panicking all over the place-- using random moves not acknowledging my opponent due to the pressure and i dont know what 2 do ab it
Before when I got jumped by people, my hands would shake violently ngl and id panic too. There is somethings that you can do but unfortunately youll just have to train it out of your system for the most part.
From what I can understand from what youre telling me, I beleive youre dealing with two issues which are panic and anxiousness. Panic that you cant process info, and anxious that you know you HAVE to do something but you dont know what. Itll be hard to do but try to first just simply information into digestible bits.
First. Who is your opponent? Aoe or speed? Both? Stat build? Just having that little bit of information already tells you a lot on their playstyle, aims, and what moves they can or will do.
Second. Where is your opponent? What are they doing at this moment? Keep in mind of their positioning and if their timing can allow them to do a move with little consequence.
Third. Where is your position? Is the time right for you to do anything? If you have a good position and time window to do something, go for it. If youre not sure or not in a good case scenario, dont. You will have to make split second decisions and youre not going to be able to process everything in time and thats okay. You can always play patient and wait to strategize or find an opening. Dont force out an attack that youre not sure will help you at all.
IGNORE EVERYTHING ELSE. Refer to only these three pieces of info. Maybe in wars things might get more complciated than this but right now youre learning and simplicity is key. You can always learn more and do more once youre comfortable and trained to do so. Just work with the information you have at the moment and try to make the best possible judgement out of it. You will make mistakes and have bad judgement at times and thats fine, it still happens to me and ive learnt a lot over the past months. Practice irons out these mistakes overtime. Be patient with both your gameplay and yourself and you will see rewards gradually.
Feel free to message more if you still have questions.
Follow up on my last comment. Once you get those 3 parts down. You can start incorporating resource management into gameplay. Health, energy, stamina, cooldowns, etc.
But for right now just focus purely on being able to process info quickly and effeciently without panicking.
looking forward to a movement guide
Will be part of pt 3.
"don't be discouraged"
Me who joined from world of magic having been here for over a year being bullied by literally every player that isn't new:
(how can bro have only taken 3 months)
Most players from what i know arent agressive as long as you leave them alone. Just being friendly and respectful to people usually can do a lot, even if it starts off as hostile. If you can, make a friend that can spar with you. The more skilled your opponent the better for your growth. The game has a suprisingly very easy learning curve that looks intimidating at first, but from personal experience, you can easily solo with studying without a consistent sparring partner.
Feel free to ask more and Ill help where I can.
well im shadow mage and when it comes to pvp i usualy just gas my enemy witch poison magic wgile chocking whide range shadow atacks at my clouds hopint that i hit my enemy
Recommendation for warriors: Atlantean cutlass has broken aoe, add dense and it’s really hard to dodge
about the timing i can aprove that at least on bosses because as a noob with a strong magic (idk witch one exactly) i lost against lord elius ans now i have won with wins magic (crappy damage ) wile still being like lvl 40 or something (way under level) just because i timed my attacs right and abused his endlag