10 Star Trek: Voyager Episodes That Were Almost Completely Different
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- Опубликовано: 20 июл 2024
- These are the episodes that started life as one thing, only to be transformed in the writers' room.
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The mental image of Seven having her legs blown off and begging for death is intensely traumatic… I’m glad that got scrapped
It would be action schlock, unfortunately it's the kinda action stuff we actually get nowadays.
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Yeah sounds like something from the Walking Dead
@@HellOnWheel Sounds like something from "not-Star Trek: Picard"
C'MON, all of you get to the choppa', it's straight Terminator. I think your hesitation is a psycho-social reaction, the often weaponized "White tears" reaction: where the sight of an attractive white female( or buxom and blonde, sorry brunettes) in tears or pain trips the switch against whatever caused it, be it a circumstance or person. I actually love the idea, not as a midseason anything, but a finale for seven, speaking to the totally pessimistic argument that you can never escape your past moreover violently abused people often become abusers themselves. The aversion may have something to do with Ryan dating the producer....just saying, and ending the T&A money train was out of the question.
The idea of "a" Voyager appearing back home only to cause trouble because they were actually aliens of somesort actually sounds like a good idea, given that Earth (thourgh DS9 & the Dominion war) had already had issues with imposter beings, this imposter Voyager & crew being welcomed home with open arms and champagne flowing folloing their triumphant return from being MIA would be a hugely entertaining episode, and a right kick in the teeth for Starfleet in general... :P
I was surprised there was no mention of the "Year of Hell" events originally envisioned as a many-episode (if not season-long) story-arc.
Finally, a video dedicated to my favourite Star Trek series.
And while we're here, why do I like Voyager best, you ask? Three reasons.
One: It has the most interesting story line that runs through the entire series.
Two: It's the first one with a female captain.
Three: Naomi Wildman adds a sweetness to it. She's a real Missy. Translation: A little girl who's mature and smart for her age, and yet still super cute at heart.
Funny enough, the original Tuvix idea with him volunteering would have had a lot less "debate" about it
I’m not a overall fan of the ep the character was designed vary well but I will say I like the fact that janway was forced to make a decision it called back to the next gen ep where Troy was takeing the rank promotion test and had to order hologram gordi to go through with a suicide mission, Tuvix chose to wear a starfleet uniform one life versus 2 is what it came down to
@@seanbraley2772 How did he vary? Who is Gordi?
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@@seanbraley2772 The thing is though, Tuvok and Neelix were already dead. The "needs of the dead" can never outweigh the needs of the living, if that makes any sense. Troy ordering Geordi to sacrifice himself to save the ship is a completely different matter, even if it wasn't just a holodeck simulation. Even if Tuvok and Neelik were still alive somehow buy dying, well... imagine if today's army had two critically injured personnel and chose to sacrifice a healthy soldier to harvest his organs to save the injured two. That would be considered fucking appalling and evil. The episode would have been a lot less controversial if Tuvix had a terminal disease - e.g., some genetic incompatibility between Vulkan and Talaxian DNA for example - that would have killed him within a month or so, then have Tuvix nobly sacrifice himself (*without* pressure from Janeway!) since he has so little life left anyway. That would have made it a far better episode. As it stands, Janeway is a monster.
@@pjpless2 Welp, poor English WILL illicit that kind of reaction from me! ;o)
Tuvix as originally written definitely wouldn't still have people talking about it 30 years later. And Mortal Coil made a good choice in using Neelix. Gave the character some depth, and the episode was really good.
Well, people might still be talking about it, but in an "oof, that was handled completely wrong" kinda way.
Its always a treat to see how these stories evolve.
The alternate version of In The Flesh sounds like it’d make an incredible movie. I like the episode we got but I would’ve loved to see the original idea make it somewhere
LMAO I almost spat out my iced coffee when the coneheads came on screen. Well done. lol
Same when I saw them in a car insurance ad a few years ago.
I wish we'd gotten more of what happened after Voyager made it home, it seemed so anticlimactic.
Yup, I edited this video and I find it annoying as the only footage you have is the ship approaching Earth and then the credits come up, or alternate timeline when they are celebrating the anniversary of the ship's return. That's it!
An epilogue would've been nice.
yeah, one last extra episode called "Home" would have been nice!
but i also get that the series was called *Voyager* not "Parked in Orbit" (even tho, that could be a interesting take on StarTrek too!, daily life on a Fed Spacestation!)
@@mho... I'd totally watch an episode like that if it got us the closure we deserve, they could call that send off episode "Bon Voyager". 😂
It was, for me the poorest out of TNG and DS9, the crew would have returned to a quadrant devastated by the Dominian war, many of their families and friends would have perished in that conflict, that’s the problem with continuity, you can’t have just a little bit of it.
Currently working my way back through Voyager for the first time since it came out, so your timing on this vid was spot on. Thanks.
A planet alone in the darkness, that was some kind of tomb, would be a great episode or two. Frankly, this sounds like the plot to a movie. But it would just need more time to cook, rather than trying to chunk it out as just another episode.
I am probably not the only one, but I heard the voice of that Romulan senator, and saw his face, as I read the thumbnail.
You're not, sir. I did too. I
Now this is the kind of research i love. Reminds me of the great fanzine articles.
I read that thumbnail in Senator Vreenak's angry hiss 😂
Would be interesting to see these put together as short stories in an anthology of what ifs
That's a really good idea. Also, stories which were sequelae to those episodes-which-weren't.
Trek "What-If" episodes would be pretty damn cool. It gives them a way to not piss off the canon buffs while exploring ideas that were scrapped or even different takes as well as new stories. Even the TNG episode with the Borg-verse Enterprise would make for an interesting short
@@blackdog6969 Trek "What-Ifs" would be a good format for a round of "Short Treks".
I still think that the year of hell should have actually taken up a whole season, it could have been magnificent, a real highlight of the whole franchise.
I'd want scientific method redone (that was the ep with the invisible aliens doing experiments and janeway getting crazier to the point of nearly killing the crew by going into a phenomenon to scare the aliens)
Scientific Method is one of my favourite episodes. It was a Monster-Of-The-Week episode, but I felt that the Srivani could has returned in subsequent episodes. Voyager was the only group of lab rats to fight back and drive them off. The Srivani could have declared war on the Federation because Voyager destroyed one of their ships, but this would most likely have taken the series in a different direction.
@@HighSierra1500 overall i liked it but thought they could've done more/other things with it
An interesting idea that I read in "Omni" magazine was that the Doctor was going to have the memory engrams of the actual doctor who died in the first episode. No one knows exactly where the idea came from, including people who worked on the show, but that could be a really interesting concept! It would definitely add a completely different spin to the doctor's arc. 🖖
That sounds like an often-overlooked aspect of Data's backstory: He was programmed with the journals and even brain scans of the colonists from where Dr. Soong built Data.
I have often thought that the Doctor's evolution would have made more sense if the *_Voyager's_* computer cores had been damaged when the ship was abducted into the Delta Quadrant and Captain Janeway had stolen an alien computer during their escape. The alien computer could have had immensely greater capacity but also been difficult to adapt to Federation computers, which would have provided an excuse for the Doctor's increasing complexity (yes, his remaining online constantly was a partial retcon for that, but an alien computer would have been a better explanation, IMHO).
Literally a list of some of my all time fave episodes!
Man, that shot from Scorpion where Mulgrew is reacting to an impact to the cube -- it looks so bad. But I don't think it's her fault, it just looks like they didn't add nearly enough camera shake (and for not nearly as long). They all look silly without the shake! ;D
I love your “10” videos Seán! They give us a look at what our classic Trek episodes could have been!
Imagine an episode of Discovery, where they are traveling through the mycelial network when suddenly someone hears a confused voice in the midst, and the pilot steers the ship towards the voice... It's Tuvix!
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A number of S2 episodes for Voyager were holdovers filmed during S1 such as Projections where the Doctor is torn between whether he’s a hologram or actually Zimmerman. It puts him through multiple equally plausible scenarios before revealing it’s a clash of his program and his memories. Picardo really displays a serious range whenever his character gets a character challenge. Another comes from discovering his memories were modified to prevent him recalling a hologram equivalent of a mind break. Seven forces them to reconsider how to help him cope with the experience rather than lock the memories again. Voyager from time to time really did deliver thought provoking episodes.
It wasn't just those four episodes, four episodes filmed during the season 2 production were intended for season 3, including "Basics, Part II" which wasn't actually filmed back-to-back with the first part. The difference, of course, is that they were written with the intention of being held over, which wasn't the case with the first season episodes, as apparent by the season 1 stardates ("Twisted" being the lone exception as a stardate was not mentioned), while the season 2 hold overs have Roxann Dawson credited as "Roxann Biggs-Dawson."
8:29 Brilliant, Martin
5:41 Irresponsible? I get mad about that because it's such a personal choice, and it can be shown in a beautiful light. Choosing death over illness and suffering isn't an "irresponsible" message if the decision is made in an informed and mentally sound way. I have a terminal illness, but I'm not sick yet. I don't know what's to come, but I certainly don't wanna be considered "irresponsible" if Io ever feel the need to make that choice.
choosing to die is a sensitive issue with some.
We have assisted dying available in Canada, but some complain it's being shoved down their throat just bringing up the option.
The thumbnail with "FAAAAAKE!" pointing at a "Starship" is hysterical.
A detail that doesn't get enough attention is the fact that Living Witness is *still* the chronologically last episode in the entire Star Trek franchise.
Even with Discovery time travel?
And with Prodigy, it was shown that chakotay went into a new mission to the delta quadrant, I find it hard to believe that they never re established contact with the federation
@@troloinkto Maybe. The entire episode is a holographic reproduction of events that themselves took place over 700 years after Voyager's journey to the Delta Quadrant. Most of the story is set before Discovery's return, but the epilogue may take place afterwards.
7:08 I can't help, but think that the "slipstream network" and the idea of trespassing thing influenced later vodwar episodes.
The writters were very insightful in regards cultural perspective. From native americans' point of view to viewing a mother kill its child. Very appropriate for its time.
Especially surprising, giving that their Native American expert was a sham!
Life Signs was the first time I felt they could really push the EMH character to levels they didn't expect. Originally they expected Neelix to be the break out star, but Picardo just nailed the ostensibly dull role with such deadpan charisma, you just couldn't ignore the opportunities as a writer to explore that character.
6: Voyager crew are duplicates? Well why not...they died a ton of times and most of them are from the alternate universe anyway. The real voyager blew up trying to protect the second one from the hunters...and then the timelines change, alternate events and stuff. It would have been would been a great tie in. I would explain a lot of things, why some of the crew behaved in a weird way, why Truvok defied Vulcan logic many times, why the EMH would burst out singing randomly. other than exploring humanity, why Janeway behaved rather erratically, and why Choaktay deciided to go after Seska, knowing it would be dangerous. There is a lot of things going on that made me feel they had been replaced, since man times they broke the rules and laws to suit themselves and put the crew in harm's way, just because. Yes, the crew being chanellings would be a perfect fit to everything. Changelling Seven of Nine kept Voyager from the Bajoran wormhole on purpose, since the war was going on. .
Who would have thought the episode "Living Witness" uniforms would be foresight into the future with Picard series uniforms
I like to assume the text on the thumbnail was a reference to DS9, and if so, well played :)
In an alternate universe, Janeway exclaims, "There is Tea, Earl Grey, Hot in that nebula!"
Cheers from the Pacific West Coast of Canada.
I don't know if it counts but originally in Dark Frontier when 7 reactivates on the Queen's ship finding drones in front of her she was meant to have been back in her Borg attire but Jeri refused
I saw the thumbnail and instantly thought of the DS9 Romulan who was mis-sold a holo recording. ITS A FAAAAKE. Then I instinctively knew Martin was the editor.
But I watched this a week ago and didn't see any of the usual jokes or neat editing illustrations.
So I had to watch again without blinking.
That must be how I missed seeing the Horgon on the first two viewings.
I like the old photo altered to show an 8472. And the newspaper too.
And a viewing on a big TV screen finally showed me an NX Enterprise model in front of the Dancing Cochrane.
Nice juxtaposition when Sean's voiceover talks about non-violence but the video shows violence.
And the crawling terminator is excellent. I just didn't notice it the first time around.
Brilliant list!
Love this!!!
Living witness is one of my favorites
Wow!
So many good and bad ideas were lost here!
As a Sevantha shipper I am very much relieved they didn't go with the killing Ensign Wildmam idea.
Great show Sean
While I too really dislike how the episode “Tuvix” ended, I do have an appreciation for the fact that Tuvix had to die for the gravitas of the episode not to have been lost. I think the reason that the episode carried such weight, and was unafraid to show it in all is distasteful g(l)ory, hinged on the fact that Tuvix had to die.
My preferred ending would still involve Tuvix dying, but would have ended with Tuvok and Neelix on the holodeck, sitting on a park bench quietly exchanging their thoughts, and ultimately survivor guilt with one another.
As both would retain the memories, and emotional memory of Tuvix, they would of course be glad that they were alive but still felt shame for the manner in which that life was given back to them. Neelix being a creature of emotion, would naturally struggle with the weight of the decision made, and would turn to Tuvok for some logic to make those feelings easier to deal with - Tuvok would explain the common misconception that Vulcans do not have emotions, and would correct that by explaining that the Vulcan need for logic is because they feel emotion that much stronger than other life forms and that it almost destroyed the Vulcan people. He would go on to say that he shares Neelix’s feelings every bit as deeply as Neelix does, but explain the logic behind Janeway’s decision, and that for the good of everyone else onboard she had to make an impossible decision.
The episode would close out with the camera panning out and away from behind the pair, and as the fade to black occurs, we see Tuvok place a reassuring hand on Neelix’s shoulder.
This I feel would have rounded out the episode nicely, and have given a little more closeness to Tuvok and Neelix’s relationship - rewatching every episode, ad-infinitum, the subtle nuances of the actors performances started to stand out, and apart from Neelix’s deep, romantic love for Janeway, the other thing that caught my attention was just how much (even very early on) one notices just how much Neelix is craving a little closeness and validation from someone who he admired greatly, Tuvok.
Tuvix deserved to live.
Best decision Janeway ever made was to eliminate that abomination
Tim and Ethan had a contract, though.
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Said no one ever
You guys are making lists like this but we still havent got top 10 episodes of voyager please give us that list
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Ummmm.....ok...cool, good to know
@@stephanierachal6320 “the care they need” translation mutilation of healthy body parts and castration…
@@benjamindorrance1361 I’m glad you know now. Please stop supporting these anti-life freaks.
Best Trek, best ship.
Change my mind.
Actually, don't even bother to try, you can't 😉
Best ship, best concept, worst Trek.
Re: Tuvix:
Janeway did nothing wrong!
The needs of the many.
I have no problem with her choice in Tuvix. I do take exception to what she did in Endgame. She unmade billions and billions of people/aliens.
It was murder.
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Janeway killed one person to bring two people back from the dead.
Imagine if you had gotten transplants rom two people that saved your life. Heart from one person, kidney from another.
Then someone comes up with a way to bring those donors back from the dead - all they need to do is remove your heart and kidney. Which would, of course, kill you.
Janeway gives you the shot, you die, and your donors come back to life. You okay with that?
By "Fan Favorite" you mean its equally as beloved as the last episode of Star Vs
Things really can change, can't they. Good in some cases.
Parallax was a mistake either way... by having B'Elanna become chief engineer so quickly, much of her potential character growth was completed in one episode. She spent the next seven years on a treadmill, trying to reconcile herself with her Klingon half over and over again.
And the biggest thing Night got wrong was not quietly sticking a pip on Harry's collar. His seven years as an ensign was one of Voyager's stupidest elements.
"Nr: 1 Tuvix"
well that was quick lol
Thanks. 🖖🏻
Wasn't there also an alternate version of Unimatrix Zero where Harry was assimilated (or at least captured)? I recall seeing some early draft photo of Harry on a surgical table with the Borg Queen standing over him. This was years ago, back when the episode had just come out, and I haven't seen that picture anywhere in the years since.
Not sure, but I know Harry was supposed to die in Scorpion and be replaced in the cast by Jeri Ryan. Garrett Wang’s sexiest men alive People magazine cover at the time saved the character though and doomed Kes instead…
biggest unanswered question what if 2 transpporter clones get the tuvix treatment
Tuvix freaked me out. Was it Murder to fix the accident? Was a new person created? like when Trip grew a spare...
Well, I dunno, it just freaked me out, plus the character was freaky..
I never understood 'Night'. how is there a part of space that has no light? What is blocking the light form all the stars int eh Galaxy from being seen there? Even looking out from the very edge of the galaxy you would see the light of other galaxies. There may be large expanses in space that are void of stars, but this doesn't stop the light of the other stars from being seen.
The episode did pay lip service to that actually - something about theta radiation absorbing all EM signatures so that nothing can be observed beyond a limited range. Granted, the explanation made no sense, and it was a "blink and you'll miss it" sort of thing, but at least it was acknowledged.
The mere fact that transporter accidents happen and can be reversed means that they understand what’s happening and can replicate it. This also means that they have a recipe for creating some of the most over powered modified beings imaginable. Imagine making a fusion of species 8472 and an android like data. Completely resistant to all forms of technology, gravity, and the insane processing power and intelligence of the android. Or a changing and a douwd or an organian, a being made of pure energy that can turn into any state of matter and take any form imaginable, with the ability to absorb energy to grow in size to even the size of a solar system.
Or even better fuse a q with some other species that has a specific weakness that can be exploited to take control of the q.
Tuvix haunts my nightmares.
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If they wanted to make Tuvix more darker, why not go Full Cronenberg with Body Horror
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So Tuvix could have had a much better ending? One with a noble sacrifice rather than a Captain ordering an innocent man to his death while the entire crew stands by? That's a tragedy.
With all the crew members dying on voyager … make me think they could have ran out of crew.
8:30 We are from France.
Life Signs is example of poor writting, that sadly plagued entire Voyager run.
No wonder people praise Tuvix, for being one of boldest and best episodes of VOY.
Just, compare those two. One serving you answer on silver plate, other letting you decide.
Weird how wildly different peoples' impressions can be. I thought Life Signs was one of the better episodes, whereas Tuvix was *the* worst, in all of Star Trek. There were a lot of bad episodes (Spok's Brain, Sub Rosa, Threshold) but Tuvix was the only episode in the franchise where the captain - who's supposed to be a role model - became some weird Mr. Hyde monster. It's hard to have any respect for her after that.
*i'm still very annoyed (i'm being very polite here) by the tuvix ending as they could have taken his combined dna and then later cloned him either on the ship or once they got back to earth*
would cloning have been enough? wasn't there an added alien plant dna ingredient that caused the merging in the first place?
A clone is a biological/physical copy. They would not have had Tuvix's memories or personality.
@Jon-eh1yw *not forgetting that aspect at all...just saying the manner in which it was handled was a bit harsh and cruel*
Worse episode
That is even more morally problematic than the way Janeway's decision played out. Consider the Enterprise episode with the cloned Cmndr. Tucker and the implications of cloning someone for parts.
I’m still going to claim Janeway did nothing wrong in “killing” Tuvix. Tuvix was willing to let two people who had families die to save his own life.
A good video, but I found the mix of clips illustrating your narration and the clips from the episodes you're talking about confusing.
2:09 - "The resolution comes from diplomacy rather than violence, which is far more in keeping with Janeway's character."
Haha! That's what I love about TrekCulture, you're so funny! Captain Kathryn "Torpedoes, Full Spread" Janeway preferring to avoid violence, that's a good one!
...You were joking, right?
......Right?
(Side note: if you haven't seen it, go watch the TazG2000 video, "The definitive Voyager torpedo inventory log". Apparently, Janeway loved firing torpedos so much, she was somehow able to shoot vastly more than they ever had, presumably through force of her own violent will.)
Torpedoes can be replicated - except for the matter and antimatter reactants - but what about all those shuttles they lost?
@@_WillCAD_ I mean, I think not being able to replicate the reactants was the main issue there. ;)
And yeah, the number of shuttles they trashed, while explicitly not being able to replace them... And yet somehow able to build their own super-shuttle, out of spare parts (in a cave, with a box of scraps) was wild!
@@AdrianWoodUK Not to mention said super-shuttle got blown up and then appeared again two episodes later.
Oblivion is for me the saddest episode of all Star Treks I saw. All they were and lived vanished without letting a trace... This is why the ideia of
dying haunts me since ever . . .
The plotline of Janeway's hometown being destroyed sounds like it was revisited for Enterprise and Tripp.
Why would someone be so inhumane as to think that living in a diseased body is a 'proper' choice. If you are so affected by disease that you can't move or are in constant pain, I'm sure that most people would choose to live a short happy life unaffected by disease or pain. Who would think that people are less deserving of consideration, having a choice is a great consideration. Having someone die diseased and/or in pain seems the height of inhumanity, what an awful person.
I'm not here to watch the video. I'm here because in the thumbnail, there is an arrow pointing at a part of the ship with the word "fake".
You do realize its all fake...Right? LOL
I feel like the Galaxy Quest theme should start playing here. ;)
3:11 Think you're missing a name here. (Bryan Fuller, right?)
That's him yep
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Oh yes raven as shown far superior
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It’s a shame almost all of them had the big red reset button in them.
I HATED Living Witness. It made no sense in continuity and never rectified. Like we know that Voyager made it home we know that that never happened. I don't think they even said it was an alternate universe / reality.
The writers did too many episode messing with Tuvok’s logic or the Tuvok/Neelix dynamic. Tuvox was the diarrhea icing on a giant poop cake of bad ideas.
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This is where Star Trek ended for me. I loved this series. Nothing else captured the essence of it since.
Yup, same. Enterprise has its moments, but never quite lived up to the originals. The whole 29th century temporal cold war was bonkers and the Xindi arc was a half-assed shallow attempt to introduce a Dominion-like nemesis.
In the flesh was an abomination of an episode, it was bad enough when the writers emasculated the Borg, to do the same thing to species 8472 was unforgivable. In Scorpion, it is established that Species 8472s DNA is so dense that nothing can penetrate it, yet in in the flesh Tuvocs Vulcan neck pinch renders him unconscious. Again in Scorpion, one member of species 8472 wipes out 15 Borg cubes, but when one is captured in this end episode, he starts crying and commits suicide. The worst scene is when Janeway is talking to Boothby and asks if they have recreated her favourite coffee shop, it’s not Boothby, It’s a member of species 8472, and your asking about a f..king coffee shop.
I thought in Scorpion the original intent was for Harry to die instead of Kes leaving.
It was either one of the two due to go. But he got most handsome guy of the year or some such award so they kept him.
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@@ashedarke People Magazine's 50 sexiest men.
@@sureshmukhi2316 there we go. It was mentioned in the 10 Things You Didn't Know About Seven video, that's about all I could remember 😂
That's not true. Garrett Wang said it wasn't on the Delta Flyers podcast.
Jamie, isn’t that much of a diplomat. I’m not sure why you seem to point out in that one that she is. She’s probably one of the worst captains to ever sit in the seat. Not because she’s a woman because she makes some of the worst decisions. She committed murder several times throughout the show. And don’t get me started with the whole episode with Tuvix or however, you spell his name. She just flat out, murdered him. There’s no other way to look at that. They made it all you want. It is what it is. Just start the show. The destroying of the array made no sense. The caretaker had to use his special ability to activate the array. There’s no way anyone else could’ve used it but I’m sure voyager being what it was I would’ve done some sort of science mumbo-jumbo, and made it work. Lol.
Single biggest morally bad decision Janeway made with regards to a crewmate... killin Tuvix...murderer... love how the crew did NOTHING to protest either.🖖😁🤘🇨🇦
when talking about mortal coil you showed scenes from author author...
They showed someone writing, because it was about the writers 🤦🤷♂️
Janeway did nothing wrong.
Should have just kept Tuvix. He wa smuch more interesting than either of the characters on their own
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Tuvix was a great character, and I wish they could have saved him.
But I do love Tuvok and Neelix individually.
@@_WillCAD_ Tuvok was a moron… he got disarmed by a female that took his weapon and fired it in engineering. Star fleet security officer that got within arms reach of someone despite having a ranged weapon…. Literally what happens when the ideologies supported by this channel gain power in society.
Neelix was nothing more than a literal pet to the crew or voyager.
Sure I'm in the minority, but I think Year of Hell is grossly overrated. Probably because I'd heard so much in advance about how great it was, it just didn't measure up to my resulting expectations. Time travel had become overused by the franchise by this point, so it was just one more time travel story. And thus didn't grab me. Of course it hit the reset button, so there was no impact from it. So it felt inconsequential.
I agree with you, the reset button was so overused it became a running joke, same with the endless supply of photon torpedoes and shuttles, the Delta Flyer is destroyed so many times but they always manage to replace it.
In Tuvix, Janeway committed murder. Plain and simple. Imagine you could bring back a mother who died while giving birth to her baby, if you kill the baby. No one would do it. Well, apart from Janeway obviously.
And the worst part is, she brought back Neelix.
Every Tuvix dies. Did Tuvix ever really live?
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Good concept but the series was killed by poor scripts, Mulgrew’s wooden acting, too much Doctor and not enough use of Chakota who was the best actor and character. At least they got rid of Jenn Lein
These concepts are better than the actual episodes! What a disappointing series especially after the masterpiece that was DS9.
It was very disappointing and doesn’t hold up well after all these years. They had the best concept of all of the shows but threw it away. A ship alone thousands of light years from home with two crews at each other’s throats facing enemies on al sides and with no means of replenishing weapons or other supplies, but in no time they are one big happy crew with endless supplies of photon torpedoes and shuttles, in TNG episode Q Who, Q warned of terrors a o freeze the soul, Voyager gave us the Kazon.
not liking the background music in this :(
How come? The song itself or where it sits in the mix?
The whole Tuvix thing was just poor writing, nothing more. We all knew Tuvok and Neelix had to return, but instead of giving us a decent reason like an unstoppable degenerating cell structure with the only cure being separation, and the alternative being death....we got Janeway completely throwing her morality out the door and becoming a murderer with her whole crew save the doctor in tow. One of the worst decisions in ALL of Star Trek.
All these years later people still take Janeway seriously. She never projected strength at all. If it wasn't for her plot armor the Borg Queen would have just killed her.
Tuvix is so awful and cringey that I refuse to watch it. It's such an absurd concept, even by Star Trek standards and is more or less a bad ripoff of the TOS episode The Enemy Within (also quite absurd, but it was the 60s so it gets a pass).