For someone without much background in AoM, who has only had a few days of access to the Atlanteans, Drongo picked up those shifting techniques impressively quickly.
Man I played like 5 Hades won all, pick Odin no idea what I was doing and you smack me xD. GGs man. I built a second temple, as with the first one my infantry spawned inside the oasis woodline... then I still had to cut them out.
You and i had pretty much the exact same idea regarding Kronos. Build manor to speed up temple build, time shift it outside the opponents base to rush with myth units. I know I'm basically armchair quarterbacking here, but here's what i would have done differently: 1. I would have put all the oracle surrounding his base as fast as possible to get that deconstruct on the temple to delay the age up. Also they'll be able to intercept any herd animals your opponent finds and tries to send back to their base, then you can take them and send them to yours instead 2. I would have also turned the oracle to hero asap so they could fight off a berserk, and generate favor faster 3. I would have gone for the alluvial clay tech as soon as i hit age 2, so your promethian would split into 3 instead of 2 upon first death 4. You backed off your first assault too quickly, and gave your opponent a chance to recover. I know you weren't worried about it given the apparent difference in skill, but i feel like you should have gone after the TC with your 4 or 5 myth units. It's especially important against the Norse, since they rely on Hersir so much, it makes them a natural country against Kronos and his focus on myth units. It's another reason why finding and deconstructing the temple while they're in age 1 is so important. In age 1, they can only train Hersir from temples 5. If he did survive that first assault, it's better to use Valor on your citizens, since Prometheus has that tech that increases citizen heroes build and gather rates by 20% All of that is just me nitpicking though, and I'm glad you tested this strat out, since i didn't get a chance I play this weekend. Assuming they don't nerf the crap Kronos or the Atlanteans in general, this will probably be one of my go-to strats
If retold is the same as TT deconstructing the temple does not delay the advance. Getting to age 2 requires a temple being built, not that the temple needs to be "alive". I don't think he could kill the TC with only 4-5 myth units either, the hersirs would easily prevent it and you'd just be wasting losing your army. He could have tried to be more aggro and get some raids in but now we know blue snuck the 2nd tc I think backing off and going 2 TC was the correct play. Otherwise if blue is able to hold the aggression off you end up losing due to eco disadvantage unless you can force the gold starve.
if you're going to go prometheus over leto you should prioritize getting the "theft of fire" tech he has that gives citizen heros +20% gather and build speed and use valor power on them, doesn't seem like much but early on its a huge boost as your citizens are already equivalent to 2 normal gatherers so you're essentially upgrading 2
@@momom6197 glad you do, wish i could as well but i don't, i played the fuck out of the Atlanteans back in 2012-2013 so i can't enjoy these changes. I wish they just updated the models and not change them this much. On the other hand, i love how the egyptian myth units look (i haven't seen all of them, but the mummies and sphinxes look sick af)
Are the animations misaligned with unit movement? I think there should be a jog animation, no slow walking animations. If we changed the UI a bit and blended the black edge of the map, it would be a great!
does promethean have the same strength as before cause before they used to do 8 crush damage now its 5 i just wish they kept there strength same as before some of the myth unit looks weak but regardless they have come a long way cant wait to play the newer version
I ACHE for this game to release! While I'm not a multiplayer in any way I do like watching matches and maybe some of the tactics employed in the videos will rub of on me🙂
Well I tried to play the Beta but I just kept getting "kicked by host" no matter what I tried to do so I went to bed. Thanks for the content. Shame though, people missed out on some easy wins because I suck lmao
The beta is over now, so no. The premium edition will give access on the 28th August, which should be the earliest anyone will be able to play from this point, unless additional testing periods come up.
There was a beta which people who had bought the premium addition had access to for a limited period. There was also a stress test over the weekend which applied to the same people. Now unfortunately we can't get our hands on the game unless another beta or test comes up, and that would likely be only for those who ordered the premium addition. I still bought premium not for the early access but to save money in the long-run on the expansions they'll be bringing out (currently Chinese and another civ not yet announced)
I'm theorycrafting but it seems if you built your early structures within the range of fire of your TC, the rush wouldn't be able to attack anything without taking TC fire. Greek civs can build a hero in the Archaic Age. Seems like Hades would have a pretty easy time against it because of the Sentinels power and having access to Ajax right from the start. Egypt starts with a Pharoh and a priest which would be more than enough to take out the early myth units.
I wonder how well gaining favor through oracles works, though the idea itself is a lot more interesting to me than gaining favor from tc's. Makes me wonder as well if chinese might also have a new mechanic for gaining favor. 🤔🙂
@@sanethoughtspreader You gained favor passive from your town centers - the more tc's you have the faster you gain favor. Wasn't very interesting gameplay wise.
@@lurup0278 no. you build cav units vs counter barracks. he had 8 cheiroballista's so he needed around 10 cav units. the ones that anti-archer. he needed around 5 hensirs, 10 anti-archer carv and like 5-6 axeman. his composition was well wrong.
raiding cavs absolutely slaughter cheiro ballista. just make 4cavs run them from the back and make 3 hersirs and attack both at the same time. they either lose one or the other or both .
Free food without having to gather wood to build farms. Also I'm pretty sure hunt meat is gathered faster than gathering speed from farms. Like in Age of Empires 4, you gather food out on the map until you have no choice but to invest into farms.
Am I wrong or throwing that frost on enemy units make them invulnerable too? Every time I see that, they get so little damage when attacked while frozen. Maybe it make more sense just throwing that on large group of enemy villagers to curb his economy
They're basically invulnerable, with 99% resist. I think it would work better if you manage to catch half the enemy force in frost while you fight the other half, but I haven't tested it
Frost works similar to the Ceasefire god power, but one advantage frost has is that you can still attack enemies buildings while it's active. I feel like it works better on the attack rather than on the defense.
In one match the enemy frost managed to freeze my army leaving my titan alone for the enemy to focus on. They didn't manage to kill it, but it took out a large chunk of its hp.
yeah I think skadi frost should really be used to enable counterattacks, off the top of my head you can use it as time to take out production buildings and mess up enemy reinforcement
Making titan in 1vs1 is very rare, and very hard to see, because it takes very long time to go to mythic age, research secrets of the titan technology, build a titan gate... and obviously enemy won't just sit down and watch what you are doing. 😅
who da hell is he spamming throwing axeman against atty ? maaan cmon now :D imagine 10 turmas there ur done anyways no eco for uskarl and berserkergang combo or raiding cav idk but throwing axeman is ass here :D
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For someone without much background in AoM, who has only had a few days of access to the Atlanteans, Drongo picked up those shifting techniques impressively quickly.
what are shifting techniques
@@LKSgm the teleporting of the buildings you saw, this is a power unique to the god Kronos in AoM.
@@Sids1192 Drongo is op!!!
It was in the basic game it's known technique for years
Man I played like 5 Hades won all, pick Odin no idea what I was doing and you smack me xD. GGs man.
I built a second temple, as with the first one my infantry spawned inside the oasis woodline... then I still had to cut them out.
Funny, you say you want to rush.
Destroys a temple and few houses, then comes back and chills on 3 TCs.
A rush doesn't have to finish the game to be successful. It just needs to provoke an exaggerated response to allow you freedom.
You and i had pretty much the exact same idea regarding Kronos. Build manor to speed up temple build, time shift it outside the opponents base to rush with myth units.
I know I'm basically armchair quarterbacking here, but here's what i would have done differently:
1. I would have put all the oracle surrounding his base as fast as possible to get that deconstruct on the temple to delay the age up. Also they'll be able to intercept any herd animals your opponent finds and tries to send back to their base, then you can take them and send them to yours instead
2. I would have also turned the oracle to hero asap so they could fight off a berserk, and generate favor faster
3. I would have gone for the alluvial clay tech as soon as i hit age 2, so your promethian would split into 3 instead of 2 upon first death
4. You backed off your first assault too quickly, and gave your opponent a chance to recover. I know you weren't worried about it given the apparent difference in skill, but i feel like you should have gone after the TC with your 4 or 5 myth units.
It's especially important against the Norse, since they rely on Hersir so much, it makes them a natural country against Kronos and his focus on myth units. It's another reason why finding and deconstructing the temple while they're in age 1 is so important. In age 1, they can only train Hersir from temples
5. If he did survive that first assault, it's better to use Valor on your citizens, since Prometheus has that tech that increases citizen heroes build and gather rates by 20%
All of that is just me nitpicking though, and I'm glad you tested this strat out, since i didn't get a chance I play this weekend. Assuming they don't nerf the crap Kronos or the Atlanteans in general, this will probably be one of my go-to strats
If retold is the same as TT deconstructing the temple does not delay the advance. Getting to age 2 requires a temple being built, not that the temple needs to be "alive". I don't think he could kill the TC with only 4-5 myth units either, the hersirs would easily prevent it and you'd just be wasting losing your army. He could have tried to be more aggro and get some raids in but now we know blue snuck the 2nd tc I think backing off and going 2 TC was the correct play. Otherwise if blue is able to hold the aggression off you end up losing due to eco disadvantage unless you can force the gold starve.
Ok, I'm playing Kronos wrong apparently 🤣
16:43 brutal
It seems like the Oracles have a faster line of sight now which is great! I love the circle of sight as well.
bur promethean looks slower
if you're going to go prometheus over leto you should prioritize getting the "theft of fire" tech he has that gives citizen heros +20% gather and build speed and use valor power on them, doesn't seem like much but early on its a huge boost as your citizens are already equivalent to 2 normal gatherers so you're essentially upgrading 2
i really don't like how slim and ugly the new prometheans are.
Yeah, they look a bit silly. Hopefully some of these unit styles can be changed with a little feedback.
I like them.
@@momom6197 glad you do, wish i could as well but i don't, i played the fuck out of the Atlanteans back in 2012-2013 so i can't enjoy these changes. I wish they just updated the models and not change them this much. On the other hand, i love how the egyptian myth units look (i haven't seen all of them, but the mummies and sphinxes look sick af)
The Kronos rush is called the “Krush” just for future reference
this is such an old classic.
I approve of this!
you did a shoot doggy good game there son! proud of u!
8:33 that happens in the original AoM too so it’s kinda like a feature now lol
So sad that we have to wait another month until we can start playing again 😭
no bro in 3.5 hours we get another 3 hours stress test so 2am - 5am German Time
@@lurup0278 source??? Where did you get that info?
@@lurup0278 that's new to me
@@BloodyMaSSacR3 got posted on offical discord
I got this from the offical Age of Empires side@@BloodyMaSSacR3
Damn those cheiroballistas are strong
i think them been heroisable is abit broken ngl
Are the animations misaligned with unit movement? I think there should be a jog animation, no slow walking animations. If we changed the UI a bit and blended the black edge of the map, it would be a great!
Yeah That was Definitely the fastest Kronos Rush 😅
Resources on the right side UI?😮 were there other options?
The new location for resources Is way better then last week
does promethean have the same strength as before cause before they used to do 8 crush damage now its 5 i just wish they kept there strength same as before some of the myth unit looks weak but regardless they have come a long way cant wait to play the newer version
I ACHE for this game to release! While I'm not a multiplayer in any way I do like watching matches and maybe some of the tactics employed in the videos will rub of on me🙂
Well I tried to play the Beta but I just kept getting "kicked by host" no matter what I tried to do so I went to bed.
Thanks for the content. Shame though, people missed out on some easy wins because I suck lmao
If you were trying this weekend its because it was only for 2 hours a day in the morning (pst)
God damn, I think i'll main Kronos now
Let’s see a Gia type rush
i think there's some other improvments on the map to do for the developer. U have 3 TC near u and your opponents only have 1
damn that was sweet
if you preorder the game can you play it right now?
No
The beta is over now, so no. The premium edition will give access on the 28th August, which should be the earliest anyone will be able to play from this point, unless additional testing periods come up.
There was a beta which people who had bought the premium addition had access to for a limited period. There was also a stress test over the weekend which applied to the same people. Now unfortunately we can't get our hands on the game unless another beta or test comes up, and that would likely be only for those who ordered the premium addition. I still bought premium not for the early access but to save money in the long-run on the expansions they'll be bringing out (currently Chinese and another civ not yet announced)
No, pre order lets you play 28th August
You just missed the last day of the stress test, it just ended a few hours ago.
How would someone counter this rush? (Any civ)
I'm theorycrafting but it seems if you built your early structures within the range of fire of your TC, the rush wouldn't be able to attack anything without taking TC fire. Greek civs can build a hero in the Archaic Age. Seems like Hades would have a pretty easy time against it because of the Sentinels power and having access to Ajax right from the start. Egypt starts with a Pharoh and a priest which would be more than enough to take out the early myth units.
@@josephr4761 Sounds good, but Kronos can also deconstruct your building, so they don't need to bring them down manually... it's a tough rush!
Not uncommon for norse to make multiple temples, herseirs are very powerful early game for even just general use.
this is a loki thing mostly
@@idirbouchdoug1567 true
I wonder how well gaining favor through oracles works, though the idea itself is a lot more interesting to me than gaining favor from tc's. Makes me wonder as well if chinese might also have a new mechanic for gaining favor. 🤔🙂
how did they gain it in the original expansion?
@@sanethoughtspreader You gained favor passive from your town centers - the more tc's you have the faster you gain favor. Wasn't very interesting gameplay wise.
Hopefully there won't be Chinese at all
@@momom6197 Chinese are confirmed as the first expansion, however they are completly reworked and could be really good now unlike in EE. We'll see. 🙂
How North are supposed to counter your army compisition? I see no counter from them.
try to do as much dmg as possible to eco with multiple armys
@@lurup0278 no. you build cav units vs counter barracks. he had 8 cheiroballista's so he needed around 10 cav units. the ones that anti-archer. he needed around 5 hensirs, 10 anti-archer carv and like 5-6 axeman. his composition was well wrong.
raiding cavs absolutely slaughter cheiro ballista.
just make 4cavs run them from the back and make 3 hersirs and attack both at the same time. they either lose one or the other or both .
Been playing as Kronos and man is it kinda dirty what you can do with him
are the bad ass cheat codes still a thing?
yes
Did anyone get to see how do cheiroballistas look like when they pick up relics?
they cant already tried it
@@lurup0278 The tooltip claimed otherwise, guess they just copy pasted the text of other atty heroes
I’ve never been a competitive player of AOM so can someone please explain why hunting is more used than the farms? 🙏
There is a lot more hunt in AOM and it free food unlike farms which costs wood
Free food without having to gather wood to build farms.
Also I'm pretty sure hunt meat is gathered faster than gathering speed from farms.
Like in Age of Empires 4, you gather food out on the map until you have no choice but to invest into farms.
Oledragora is correct hunting gathers the fastest. Next is herd goats and pigs and chickens then farming farm as last resort for food
Hunt has a faster gather rate than farms, farms can also be expensive to switch into.
hunt is the fastest in gather rate of all the land food sources .
That was just unfair😂 Literally didn’t stand a chance
Am I wrong or throwing that frost on enemy units make them invulnerable too? Every time I see that, they get so little damage when attacked while frozen. Maybe it make more sense just throwing that on large group of enemy villagers to curb his economy
They're basically invulnerable, with 99% resist. I think it would work better if you manage to catch half the enemy force in frost while you fight the other half, but I haven't tested it
Frost works similar to the Ceasefire god power, but one advantage frost has is that you can still attack enemies buildings while it's active. I feel like it works better on the attack rather than on the defense.
In one match the enemy frost managed to freeze my army leaving my titan alone for the enemy to focus on. They didn't manage to kill it, but it took out a large chunk of its hp.
yeah I think skadi frost should really be used to enable counterattacks, off the top of my head you can use it as time to take out production buildings and mess up enemy reinforcement
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supernoob vs supernoob thats what i saw here
Not sure this was considered a rush, your rush really didn't do much though you got a house.
Eugene
Still no Titan? A Titan Rush maybe? :D
Making titan in 1vs1 is very rare, and very hard to see, because it takes very long time to go to mythic age, research secrets of the titan technology, build a titan gate... and obviously enemy won't just sit down and watch what you are doing. 😅
The only time we will see titans in 1v1 is a lategame stall that should be rather unlikely since god powers exist. I could see it in a egypt mirror
I managed to get a titan fight in my first ranked game at about 30-40 mins in. The fight felt amazing, titans feel so much less janky.
@@Shero1337 I wish they improve their animations before release. The atlantean ones movement looks horrendous
@@actuallyKriminell Completely agree, the animations are really weird right now.
Damn ballistas, I coudn't do anything against them in a 1v1. Its BS.
who da hell is he spamming throwing axeman against atty ? maaan cmon now :D imagine 10 turmas there ur done anyways no eco for uskarl and berserkergang combo or raiding cav idk but throwing axeman is ass here :D
just go back to AOE4 please
The Kronos rush is called the “Krush” just for future reference