@@cohenmarioman also something I find funny is that the 3 characters I mentioned were all later voiced by the VA Eileen Stevens, who also voiced Tori the character Cassandra would have voiced in Zexal.
Oh my god, Liam O'Brien was about to voice a Yu-Gi-Oh Character. Jesus Christ, I would've killed to visited an alternative timeline where Konami and 4Kids lost the court case.
If I remember correctly, Johnny was cast to redub Broly's voice for the DBS Broly movie, because of the whole Vic vs Funimation debacle so petty as they are, they didn't want to keep Vic's VO for Broly so yeah. Those 2 are good friends too, Johnny did the VO justice.
Tch, i don't hate the Zexal dub, Yuma sounds like a middle grade, it had some genuine funny moments "you just summoned your mom." But for the most part, I'd be down with a Bang Zoom Entertainment dub. At least they got season 1 dubbed. Also, Dylan, I had no idea you had an alternate channel. That theme song though....Take a Chance would've been the better choice.
Literally eveything would've been solved had TV Tokyo and NAS given 4Kids 10 days notice for the termination of their agreement, as stipulated in the terms of their licensing agreement itself. Because they did not do that, they illegally broke the agreement and handed the case to 4Kids on a silver platter. And now that all that work put into the dub is for nothing, all because TV Tokyo and NAS's lawyers can't even read their own agreements.
The thing he left out is TV Tokyo and NAS or just NAS actually made it so that 4kids would have the licensing rights to Yugioh forever so really, it's their own fault for why 4kids was able to screw them over in such a mindblowing fashion.
@@gamingbrownie7461 I don't have it on hand, nor remember where I heard, but I do know it was said by someone who was covering the lawsuit between 4kids and NAS/TV Tokyo.
@@retrogamer6403 I don’t know who you heard it from but they were probably misinformed, but what 4kids did was just gain a profit while exploiting the license and TV Tokyo and NAS Found Out and so they took 4Kids to court. they didn’t enable a loop to where they had the license forever because 1. You can’t do that with a license 2. This isn’t under 4Kids anymore it’s under Konami now and they purchased all of their equipment to make the dub and re-hired a few employees from the then-defunct 4Kids Productions 3. 4Kids sold the license to Konami that’s how they’re still doing it not because of a nonexistent licensing loop but because they gave it to another company but had the same people attached to it.
The only little piece of info I have is that NAS and ADK actually gave bangzoom the original animation assets to make the dub. They were going all out.
So I actually got to meet JYB and had him sign a Yuma card! Some anecdotes - They dubbed the entire first half. After this was shown they still dubbed more. - Sam Riegel was Kite - Cassandra Lee Morris was Tori - Konami DOESNT have this dub locked away. Bang Zoom does. - JYB is still very passionate about it. He loved playing Yuma, and it was the most involved on a production he had ever been.
First time I ever heard of this dub was at my local con when JYB actually showed it off to everyone in attendance. At the time I didn’t really know what a rare glimpse I got, but now, I kinda wish I could hear it again.
It isn’t the worst timeline just because 26 dubbed episodes from a company that didn’t own the rights to create the episodes yet made them. Also the opening is kinda cringey to listen to.
@@rainbowdragon168 the Zexal dub actors we got aren’t nearly as good as the 2 I mentioned. The opening isn’t the best but if I could I’d definitely sacrifice a weak opening if it meant better actors and potentially better localization as we all know how 4Kids/4KMedia does
This story will always remind me of a lot of anime dubs that just got never released. But this is always so special due to the lawsuit involved that ended up making this dub lost.
I honestly think the dub would have been much better. the dub cast honestly sounds like an amazing choice for the cahracters. I honestly hope at least one episode gets recovered but that is so unlikely. If I remember correctly NAS and ADK also gave the original assets to Bang Zoom which would allow seamless edits but I can’t remember
@@davidvasquez08 I can imagine watching in silence as I become untouchable and invisible even to Shido, he dates his other girls (I hear he has new ones, like Natsumi) and forgets about me, and out of sheer envy, I go inverse and attempt to destroy this world and many others. I can also see Shido and his girl friends dying, and the outcome would rhyme. Fortunately, I haven't sold my soul to him yet.
The VA cast they were using looks so much better than the 4K Media choices. Also, have you tried asking Johnny Yong Bosh about it on Twitter? He's very friendly and usually responds to fan questions.
I knew about this dub for years but it's really sad that those people were sort of done dirty. I wonder what would happen if 4kids lost though. Would be interesting thinking of the what ifs
True although technically the dub wasn’t even legal when they did it so it’s possible they could’ve been sued if 4kids didn’t survive the lawsuit that is.
My heart is breaking at the fact that my favorite rival/main character in Zexal and possibly all of Yugioh could have been voiced by Vic Mignogna and Johnny Yong Bosch and those episode exist, but will never see the light of day.
I remeber the NAS thing. That was the worst thing I saw happen to someone on RUclips. I think there is also a RUclips video where Vic talks about playing Shark. I would of loved to see this dub because Vic and Johnny are great VAs
On the one side, it would have been cool to hear Cassandra Lee Morris in Yu-Gi-Oh again and especially Liam O'Brien in the franchise. On the other side, had they won the case it would have mostly likely meant that New York would probably not have continued working on the dub to this day which would have been unfortunate since I do think a lot of the actors there are pretty talented.
Fun fact: vic who supposed to voice shark lost his job for funimation during the Dragon Ball Super Broly Movie. He got accused by a couple of the funimation voice actors that he didn't do anything. Note: I really want to hear the Vic version of shark since I am really a huge fan of his work and actually met him once. Extremely cool guy and really want to listen to it.
It is so interesting to me you used Detective Conan in the thumbnail here, since it also little-known has a "lost dub" that was meant to be done by FoxKids. Though, little is known about it and it's hard to find proof as to whether or not it actually existed. Though, I believe I saw some magazine clippings a long, long time ago about it. Detective Conan/Case Closed is a longtime fave of mine, so it was interesting to see it used in the thumbnail! Thanks for the content and discussion as usual, Dylan! :)
I remember when you got those copyright strikes man. It was crazy you had users at that time who had clips up from the "Yugioh anime" having millions of views but we're never bothered with. I'm happy you weathered the storm.
God this take me back. I remember mentioning this back in 2017 in the "Things You Didn't Know/Things You Missed" GX video, god time flies. Anyway I always wondered what happened to this lost English dub. Now with more evidence coming to light in recent years, it's pretty clear that that the main culprits were TV Tokyo and ADK. It's crazy how this whole fiasco went down and the fact that there are 26 fully produced Zexal dub episodes by Bang Zoom! is insane and there STILL out there, never to be seen. That is pretty crazy to think about. As for the opening Johnny Young Bosch's vocals in the opening, It's alright but I prefer the 4KMedia opening better but that's just me. Also I like that Cassandra Lee Morris was going to be cast in this dub since she also dubbed Yubel, Leo and Luna in the 4Kids dub.
I never knew that there was a lost English dubbing of Zexal. I learnt something new. I’m glad that 4Kids and Konami won the lawsuit against ADK and TV Tokyo. Also where did the 26 episodes that the company dubbed? I know that they didn’t see the light of day and were never released but where did they go?
Johnny as Yuma and Vic Shark... Idk why but that is really hard to imagen x"D Without seeing it i would say If they would Switch roles i can imagen it more, but Well...wow. That is a eng dub that i would Had Loved to See °>° (Not Biest or anything x3)
Johnny wouldve been a good Yuma, he voiced Renton from Eureka Seven. Which sounded like a whiny teenager but he matured the voice as the character grew in the series. Probably the direction Yuma would take by Zexals end, or when Astral and him overlay. Vic as Shark would just be higher pitched Edward Elric. Sharks past memories wouldve hit a lot harder imo.
@@-S.a.k. Well, tbh i allways Here Johny in more Nature and or angsty Rules and Vic i don't think a high voice would Suite Shark. Probraly Just my head that makes me think so thanks through the ger Dub that Shark Had a deeper voice then Yuma. So having Yuma with a more lower Voice in mind is at least hard to imagen for me. ^~^
@@mariaevens8969 Yeah, Johnny usually does punk/teenager main character voices. He was a Power Ranger so it makes sense haha. Voice actors can change the pitch of their voices with practice and exercise. I know what you mean, hearing different dubs of characters is weird sometimes lol.
Vic and JYB have briefly mentioned this on early 2010s panels that they are a paired together on. Nothing substantial but acknowledging that they did work on a Zexal dub before it was cancelled.
I really hope at some point Konami just decides on a whim to re dub all the shows as ultimate uncut editions probably not gonna happen but it would be epic if they did.
In recent years idk, but 4kids existence ensures that there's at least one popular anime that funimation will never get their hands on and that's enough to satisfy me.
But why? Also 4Kids is pretty much extinct. What's still active is Konami Cross Media NY which is in charge of dubbing Yu-Gi-Oh using 4Kids handbooks lol
As much as a lot of people don't really like the English Dub of Zexel that we end up getting, I still enjoyed it despite its flaws. Sure Yuma is annoying and can be a complete idiot at times, but he grew as a character and became a much more competent duelist during the ceremonial duel with Astral. And while I wished I could've seen this English Dub by Bang Zoom, it's just wasn't meant to be and it does hurt a little that it never saw the light of day. I'm hoping that this dub does get show up, but that's just wishful thinking on my part. Cool video and can't wait to see more.
Controversial(?) opinion...but I think I might actually prefer the 4K Media dub theme "Take a Chance." Would be interested in seeing this alternate dub of course, but to be honest, this specific theme didn't really gel with me at all.
There's even more lost Zexal content. In the same panel you showed, she mentioned that Zexal was supposed to be 300 episodes...twice as long! If you remember those old episode summaries with the alternate storyline involving proto/alco, there's definitely a lot of story we never saw
I would have been amused that Zexal had more than 300 episodes and Arc-V only 150 episodes. If they get creative, Seven can spend more than 200 episodes (I say this since it is not tied to the rule of presenting something new to the Master Rule and the TCG. In fact, I would be surprised if in series 8 they want to return to put a new invocation method in TCG)
They were gonna censor Kotori's legs by giving her leggings instead of an oversized skirt. Funny this had 2 potential edits, but the leggings actually look pretty cool
Had bangzoom won, I wonder if they would also redub the past YGO anime. I don't even know who I would even want voicing Yusei or any of the other protagonists and characters be it 5Ds to DM (First YGO).
I was thinking him being Shark would be great but now knowing he could’ve actually been Shark kinda pisses me off at least I’ve heard his Shark despite him not saying any card names and using the generic Vic voice it’s still a masterpiece
From what I heard 4Kids not dubbing the last few episodes of 5DS was an intentional choice as 4Kids thought they were much too dark compared to the rest of the show, the fact that they wrote an ending for right after Yusei wins the WRGP feels like they were always going to skip those episodes regardless of the lawsuit(the fact that one of the episodes skipped over was a pointless clip show lends credence to that).
My head cannon is that Yuma sufferes from a speech impedement due to his "Dadada" going missing. The impedement had gotten him bullied and made fun of at school. So much so that he remains silent and even uses sign language as a barrier. The only time when he would speak is to his sister and in Duels. But through the Encounter with Astral, his manner or speech is normalized and the cards he'd stutter the name of became their official names because of Number 39's influence. His hyperness in the series stemmed from feeling free to speak to others and letting his words to reach out to others unabated. FYI: I never saw Zexal other than the 2-parter about Number 07 and Duel Links.
You know this wasn't the only time the lost dub was shown. I attended am event call Vox RoX in August 2014 in Anaheim CA and Johnny Yong Bosch showed clips from the dub to audience there. It was interesting to see.
I still wonder what DSOD’s dub would have been like if 4Kids lost; perhaps it would have been better, but I’d prefer NYAV dubbing the franchise with Aniplex and Paramount sharing distribution rights. NYAV’s been on a roll lately; their dubs of movies like Weathering With You were superb. Aniplex is responsible for Demon Slayer though Bang Zoom is involved with that.
The reason why Paramount would even be involved is because Aniplex’s normal partner Funimation handled the home media releases of the Yu-GI-Oh! franchise before 4Kids sold it. Also, it would prevent Aniplex from charging so much for the sole physical releases because those would fall under Paramount Home Entertainment under the terms of the deal which would also include other offerings of theirs that Funimation never touched, like the Sword Art Online franchise which, even as terrible as it it is, I feel is popular enough to deserves more mainstream home media releases. Paramount would also get a cut of revenue from the limited editions which Aniplex on their own would still be able to do.
We could have gotten Johnny and Vic working together on a dub of yugioh?!!!!? 😭💔 I need the full version of that opening in my life! That was amazing. Johnny needs to do more openings!
Honestly, I wish Konami would let another company dub Yu-Gi-Oh. The name changes are stupid and the other dub changes are stupid. There are only a handful of changes I understand and even less that I agree with. When I found out about the censorship in middle school, I was still pissed off and this was during the days of DM. I was technically part of the target demographic at that time. Though, while I am critical of 4Kids, the "Music to Duel By" CD I have somewhere in my house is an example of something I wish they kept doing.
From the bits of the Band zoom dub seems they would have kept the dub name and made edits including their own music and changing mouth movements. Their version wouldn't have been faithful either.
Honestly wish they'd let someone else dub the show. I know they wanna make it appeal more to kids in English, but c'mon, do they need to destroy things in the dub? ...mostly salty about the VRAINS dub.
@@MordredStarfall they don't want It to appeal to kids they want it to appeal to what they thinks kids are, An average 7 year old kid will know that the censorship is stupid And the biggest problem and what makes me hate them Is the fact that they think they own yugioh and can change the context whenever they want What did they change with vrains? I don't know much about vrains's dub
It’s like how Saban and Hasbro treat Super Sentai: they keep the source material locked behind copyright and give us a “kid friendly” approved version in its place. Konami doesn’t care about localizing Yu-Gi-Oh as it was intended. They just want to pump out something to appeal enough to kids so they can go out and buy the booster packs.
Bruh, I would've loved to see this dubbed by Bang Zoom! Lots of classic VA's work for that company. They did a pretty decent dub of Dragonball Super too(except Goku's voice.)
Meanwhile, I am rubbing my hands like a villain, because I am the person who won in this situration. Zexal is the only show to not get a german intro,(uses the english one instead) but the voices are not bad. And that is the one thing I hate about the english dub. So, I basically got the thing I wanted and you guys didn't.
1. This is really fascinating to watch. But I'm not sure about the opening though. For some reason, the lyrics didn't sit well with me. 2. Highly surprised that she shown this here in New Zealand of all places. Who knew? (P.S Armageddon Expo is one of two conventions here. The other one is Overload which came into existence over the recent years so the panel was pre Overload).
Fun Fact: Probably of this lawsuit between 4Kids and TV Tokio. The German Dub of 5D's from Episode 65 based from the japensese original. The German Dub of all Yu-Gi-Oh! Series and 5D's before 65 has to be based of the 4Kids Dub
There's a universe where Jonny Yung Bosch is Yuma's voice in Yu-Gi-Oh Duel Links
I’m pretty sure they don’t even have his og voice actor as well
Damn. That would have been cool.
Literally anyone else could do a better Yuma HELL I CAN
Lmao the black ranger and Edward 😂
Fun Fact: Cassandra Lee Morris would have been in the Bang Zoom dub and she was previously in 4kids GX and 5D’s dubs as Yubel, Leo and Luna.
It’s crazy they were able to use her and she ended up playing the character you would imagine.
@@cohenmarioman also something I find funny is that the 3 characters I mentioned were all later voiced by the VA Eileen Stevens, who also voiced Tori the character Cassandra would have voiced in Zexal.
@@J2ojuiced95 very accurate, seemed like an easy casting choice.
Many people recognize her voice work in Person's 5 as Morgana but I recognize her work in those two animes.
She also played Alice in GX. Her first role in the dub.
Oh my god, Liam O'Brien was about to voice a Yu-Gi-Oh Character.
Jesus Christ, I would've killed to visited an alternative timeline where Konami and 4Kids lost the court case.
For real what the FUCK!!!
he did do some Digimon characters although completely unrelated
@Huzaifa Ahmed that doesn’t count since it was fusion and literally everyone was in fusion
I really hope this dub "accidentally" gets leaked some time, I would love to see it, especially with all that talent on board
Johnny and Vic working together on a dub is like a dream team.
yuma narukami and junpei shark
If I remember correctly, Johnny was cast to redub Broly's voice for the DBS Broly movie, because of the whole Vic vs Funimation debacle so petty as they are, they didn't want to keep Vic's VO for Broly so yeah. Those 2 are good friends too, Johnny did the VO justice.
@ClearMindJoker he’s also the voice of Sabo basically Vic’s replacement
@@J0kerHecz Johnny and Vic are not friends. But Vic did give Johnny his respect.
@@J0kerHecz The man just flashed his junk on a video call with 3 women. What more do you people want as "proof"
And tbh we deserve to have a fully english dubbed GX and 5D's finished
Which I highly doubt were ever going to get given the time length between them and now as well as I dunno if some of the dub actors wanna do it again.
@@michaelnally2841 yeah I know its depressing honestly but in the multiverse it's been done and I wanna go find it
Tch, i don't hate the Zexal dub, Yuma sounds like a middle grade, it had some genuine funny moments "you just summoned your mom." But for the most part, I'd be down with a Bang Zoom Entertainment dub. At least they got season 1 dubbed. Also, Dylan, I had no idea you had an alternate channel. That theme song though....Take a Chance would've been the better choice.
"You just summoned your mom" will always be my favorite bunny moment, it's simple yet beyond hilarious.
@@years-ti7xl and then there’s that dog that can draw cards at episode 42
His voice in the original is way better lol
Literally eveything would've been solved had TV Tokyo and NAS given 4Kids 10 days notice for the termination of their agreement, as stipulated in the terms of their licensing agreement itself. Because they did not do that, they illegally broke the agreement and handed the case to 4Kids on a silver platter. And now that all that work put into the dub is for nothing, all because TV Tokyo and NAS's lawyers can't even read their own agreements.
The thing he left out is TV Tokyo and NAS or just NAS actually made it so that 4kids would have the licensing rights to Yugioh forever so really, it's their own fault for why 4kids was able to screw them over in such a mindblowing fashion.
@@retrogamer6403 Source
@@gamingbrownie7461 I don't have it on hand, nor remember where I heard, but I do know it was said by someone who was covering the lawsuit between 4kids and NAS/TV Tokyo.
@@retrogamer6403 I don’t know who you heard it from but they were probably misinformed, but what 4kids did was just gain a profit while exploiting the license and TV Tokyo and NAS Found Out and so they took 4Kids to court. they didn’t enable a loop to where they had the license forever because 1. You can’t do that with a license 2. This isn’t under 4Kids anymore it’s under Konami now and they purchased all of their equipment to make the dub and re-hired a few employees from the then-defunct 4Kids Productions 3. 4Kids sold the license to Konami that’s how they’re still doing it not because of a nonexistent licensing loop but because they gave it to another company but had the same people attached to it.
The only little piece of info I have is that NAS and ADK actually gave bangzoom the original animation assets to make the dub. They were going all out.
This makes me want to rip my face off...🙉
So I actually got to meet JYB and had him sign a Yuma card! Some anecdotes
- They dubbed the entire first half. After this was shown they still dubbed more.
- Sam Riegel was Kite
- Cassandra Lee Morris was Tori
- Konami DOESNT have this dub locked away. Bang Zoom does.
- JYB is still very passionate about it. He loved playing Yuma, and it was the most involved on a production he had ever been.
Could you imagine Kite with Tristans first voice
When the iceberg mentioned not to research it, it made my curiosity more intense. I honestly thought I'd be cursed.
Not everything in an iceberg is cursed/blursed
It’s like a duel happened between someone on the side of the lawsuit.
Such a strange development.
Dispite everything I still wish this would have been the zexal dub, its most unlikely but I really hope these 26 episodes will be released one day
Wonder if Zexal's reputation would've been better in the west if they released this dub.
It wouldn’t but they would stop hating on Yuma’s voice
I swear Zexal would be hated less often too.
@@TheJoethud22 I’ll be honest that’s the only real complaint I ever hear besides them being young
Yes
@Fortune-cookie no one would complain in fact he’d have the best voice
Whoo, as much as Zexal had a pretty slow start, I'm curious to see how some of the voice performances turned out within the first 26 episodes.
First time I ever heard of this dub was at my local con when JYB actually showed it off to everyone in attendance.
At the time I didn’t really know what a rare glimpse I got, but now, I kinda wish I could hear it again.
You mean to tell me we missed out on a Zexal dub that would’ve starred Johnny Yong Bosch and Vic Mignogna?! This really is the worst timeline
It isn’t the worst timeline just because 26 dubbed episodes from a company that didn’t own the rights to create the episodes yet made them. Also the opening is kinda cringey to listen to.
@@rainbowdragon168 the Zexal dub actors we got aren’t nearly as good as the 2 I mentioned. The opening isn’t the best but if I could I’d definitely sacrifice a weak opening if it meant better actors and potentially better localization as we all know how 4Kids/4KMedia does
@@RhyperiorRanger The Zexal dub actors/actresses are actually really good and if they were different I would’ve never watched the Zexal dub.
@@rainbowdragon168 If Vic and Johnny were part of the dub I'm sure more people would have actually watched the show.
@@4wheal I wouldn’t have because I prefer the dub that we got.
This story will always remind me of a lot of anime dubs that just got never released. But this is always so special due to the lawsuit involved that ended up making this dub lost.
I honestly think the dub would have been much better. the dub cast honestly sounds like an amazing choice for the cahracters. I honestly hope at least one episode gets recovered but that is so unlikely. If I remember correctly NAS and ADK also gave the original assets to Bang Zoom which would allow seamless edits but I can’t remember
True
Bang zoom is so generic.
@@swaggerlevel90001 wdym you’d rather it suck like 4kids
@@Deathmare235 The La cast wouldve been so mediocre and boring.
@@swaggerlevel90001I agree I have tone with anime dub nowadays like kinda since 2013/14-presents
I would sell my soul to Don Thousand to see this in its full Bang Zoom glory.
Woah, woah! You do know what happens when you do that?
@@davidvasquez08 I become a Barian?
@@mayuri4184 yes, and suffering for almost all eternity
@@davidvasquez08 I can imagine watching in silence as I become untouchable and invisible even to Shido, he dates his other girls (I hear he has new ones, like Natsumi) and forgets about me, and out of sheer envy, I go inverse and attempt to destroy this world and many others.
I can also see Shido and his girl friends dying, and the outcome would rhyme.
Fortunately, I haven't sold my soul to him yet.
@@mayuri4184 Nani?
The VA cast they were using looks so much better than the 4K Media choices.
Also, have you tried asking Johnny Yong Bosh about it on Twitter? He's very friendly and usually responds to fan questions.
I knew about this dub for years but it's really sad that those people were sort of done dirty. I wonder what would happen if 4kids lost though. Would be interesting thinking of the what ifs
True although technically the dub wasn’t even legal when they did it so it’s possible they could’ve been sued if 4kids didn’t survive the lawsuit that is.
My heart is breaking at the fact that my favorite rival/main character in Zexal and possibly all of Yugioh could have been voiced by Vic Mignogna and Johnny Yong Bosch and those episode exist, but will never see the light of day.
I remeber the NAS thing. That was the worst thing I saw happen to someone on RUclips.
I think there is also a RUclips video where Vic talks about playing Shark.
I would of loved to see this dub because Vic and Johnny are great VAs
Yugioh Everything: *Posts a video about lost Zexal episodes*
Me: I'M HERE!
Also me: *Googles everything on this court case*
Thank you for sharing, Dylan. This was interesting. I had no idea this happened. Kind of bummed we won't ever get to see those lost episodes.
On the one side, it would have been cool to hear Cassandra Lee Morris in Yu-Gi-Oh again and especially Liam O'Brien in the franchise. On the other side, had they won the case it would have mostly likely meant that New York would probably not have continued working on the dub to this day which would have been unfortunate since I do think a lot of the actors there are pretty talented.
Fun fact: vic who supposed to voice shark lost his job for funimation during the Dragon Ball Super Broly Movie. He got accused by a couple of the funimation voice actors that he didn't do anything.
Note: I really want to hear the Vic version of shark since I am really a huge fan of his work and actually met him once. Extremely cool guy and really want to listen to it.
It is so interesting to me you used Detective Conan in the thumbnail here, since it also little-known has a "lost dub" that was meant to be done by FoxKids. Though, little is known about it and it's hard to find proof as to whether or not it actually existed. Though, I believe I saw some magazine clippings a long, long time ago about it. Detective Conan/Case Closed is a longtime fave of mine, so it was interesting to see it used in the thumbnail! Thanks for the content and discussion as usual, Dylan! :)
I remember when you got those copyright strikes man. It was crazy you had users at that time who had clips up from the "Yugioh anime" having millions of views but we're never bothered with. I'm happy you weathered the storm.
We almost got Vic Nasch. That could have been amazing. Also, totally looking for leaks of these episodes. No luck yet. :/
I love learning about the hidden behind the scenes details in Yugioh. I never get tired of seeing them. Great video Dylan!
God this take me back. I remember mentioning this back in 2017 in the "Things You Didn't Know/Things You Missed" GX video, god time flies.
Anyway I always wondered what happened to this lost English dub. Now with more evidence coming to light in recent years, it's pretty clear that that the main culprits were TV Tokyo and ADK. It's crazy how this whole fiasco went down and the fact that there are 26 fully produced Zexal dub episodes by Bang Zoom! is insane and there STILL out there, never to be seen. That is pretty crazy to think about.
As for the opening Johnny Young Bosch's vocals in the opening, It's alright but I prefer the 4KMedia opening better but that's just me. Also I like that Cassandra Lee Morris was going to be cast in this dub since she also dubbed Yubel, Leo and Luna in the 4Kids dub.
Day number next of wanting to see more support for Aromas, Fortune Fairies, Fortune Ladies, Earthbound Immortals, Reptiliannes and Dragonmaids
I never knew that there was a lost English dubbing of Zexal. I learnt something new. I’m glad that 4Kids and Konami won the lawsuit against ADK and TV Tokyo. Also where did the 26 episodes that the company dubbed? I know that they didn’t see the light of day and were never released but where did they go?
We'll never know where the 26 episodes went. It's one of the greatest mysteries in the Yu-Gi-Oh! franchise.
@@mbgamer3189 Or maybe they’re deleted
@@rainbowdragon168 God I hope not.
@@mbgamer3189 They might’ve been because they weren’t released and no one has seen them.
Forget the Syder cut, we need the BangZoom cut
When I saw Conan in the thumbnail I clicked straight away XD
Same!
this is the first person I saw talk about it
Johnny as Yuma and Vic Shark... Idk why but that is really hard to imagen x"D
Without seeing it i would say If they would Switch roles i can imagen it more, but Well...wow.
That is a eng dub that i would Had Loved to See °>°
(Not Biest or anything x3)
Johnny wouldve been a good Yuma, he voiced Renton from Eureka Seven. Which sounded like a whiny teenager but he matured the voice as the character grew in the series. Probably the direction Yuma would take by Zexals end, or when Astral and him overlay.
Vic as Shark would just be higher pitched Edward Elric. Sharks past memories wouldve hit a lot harder imo.
@@-S.a.k. Well, tbh i allways Here Johny in more Nature and or angsty Rules and Vic i don't think a high voice would Suite Shark. Probraly Just my head that makes me think so thanks through the ger Dub that Shark Had a deeper voice then Yuma. So having Yuma with a more lower Voice in mind is at least hard to imagen for me. ^~^
@@mariaevens8969 Yeah, Johnny usually does punk/teenager main character voices. He was a Power Ranger so it makes sense haha. Voice actors can change the pitch of their voices with practice and exercise. I know what you mean, hearing different dubs of characters is weird sometimes lol.
@Zarc The Mighty Guy i think of junpei iori from persona 3
Vic and JYB have briefly mentioned this on early 2010s panels that they are a paired together on. Nothing substantial but acknowledging that they did work on a Zexal dub before it was cancelled.
Pretty interesting man, I wish we could watch the episodes at least.
I had no idea this even existed but that opening was pretty clean
This man got in contact with Dan green and I can’t believe it 😂😁
Thanks for the awesome work Dylan!
I really hope at some point Konami just decides on a whim to re dub all the shows as ultimate uncut editions probably not gonna happen but it would be epic if they did.
Facts. I would pay good money for it
I'm very happy that 4kids is still around because that means funimation isn't the only dubbing company
what has 4K dubbed besides Yugioh
In recent years idk, but 4kids existence ensures that there's at least one popular anime that funimation will never get their hands on and that's enough to satisfy me.
didn’t 4kids die
I want A.D. Vision Back
But why?
Also 4Kids is pretty much extinct. What's still active is Konami Cross Media NY which is in charge of dubbing Yu-Gi-Oh using 4Kids handbooks lol
As much as a lot of people don't really like the English Dub of Zexel that we end up getting, I still enjoyed it despite its flaws. Sure Yuma is annoying and can be a complete idiot at times, but he grew as a character and became a much more competent duelist during the ceremonial duel with Astral. And while I wished I could've seen this English Dub by Bang Zoom, it's just wasn't meant to be and it does hurt a little that it never saw the light of day. I'm hoping that this dub does get show up, but that's just wishful thinking on my part. Cool video and can't wait to see more.
The clips we have the dub sounds good
Controversial(?) opinion...but I think I might actually prefer the 4K Media dub theme "Take a Chance." Would be interested in seeing this alternate dub of course, but to be honest, this specific theme didn't really gel with me at all.
I agree with you it’s one favorite eng op 👍
That alternative theme song sounds good.
There's even more lost Zexal content. In the same panel you showed, she mentioned that Zexal was supposed to be 300 episodes...twice as long!
If you remember those old episode summaries with the alternate storyline involving proto/alco, there's definitely a lot of story we never saw
I would have been amused that Zexal had more than 300 episodes and Arc-V only 150 episodes.
If they get creative, Seven can spend more than 200 episodes (I say this since it is not tied to the rule of presenting something new to the Master Rule and the TCG. In fact, I would be surprised if in series 8 they want to return to put a new invocation method in TCG)
I would like to see this dub to compare and contrast
Gotta hand 4Kids credit for wining this Lawsuit even though their bust
They were gonna censor Kotori's legs by giving her leggings instead of an oversized skirt. Funny this had 2 potential edits, but the leggings actually look pretty cool
imagine you watching zexal and yuma start sounding like zuko
For me I really like the 2 English opening for zexal, but I would sacrifice them on the voice acting alter to get Vic Mignogna to voice Shark.
That opening sounds like a bad fan translation
it's ironic that I uploaded a zexal guitar cover the same day this video got released
Going from being scared of getting copyright strikes for doing transformative content to uploading a video that contains an uninterrupted opening
Had bangzoom won, I wonder if they would also redub the past YGO anime. I don't even know who I would even want voicing Yusei or any of the other protagonists and characters be it 5Ds to DM (First YGO).
Sometimes the fact we never got Vic as Reginald keeps me up at night...
I was thinking him being Shark would be great but now knowing he could’ve actually been Shark kinda pisses me off at least I’ve heard his Shark despite him not saying any card names and using the generic Vic voice it’s still a masterpiece
I just find it kind of funny that Vic is everywhere when it comes to english dubbing. Name a franchise, chances are he was involved at one point.
This is actually pretty interesting. Thanks for sharing Dylan
Voices are a mixed bag at best and the theme song has nothing on Take a Chance or Halfway to Forever. I think we got the superior product.
Thank you Dylan for a Good Video! It is too bad we will never get to see this Yu-Gi-Oh! Zexal dub.
From what I heard 4Kids not dubbing the last few episodes of 5DS was an intentional choice as 4Kids thought they were much too dark compared to the rest of the show, the fact that they wrote an ending for right after Yusei wins the WRGP feels like they were always going to skip those episodes regardless of the lawsuit(the fact that one of the episodes skipped over was a pointless clip show lends credence to that).
Anyone else thinking that ADK hired a copyright troll?
NAS is the reason we lost dueling network seriously these guys need to chill
It's kind of interesting now because Yu-Gi-Oh videos nowadays don't get flagged like at all. But a few years ago was a different story.
@@randomprofile5853 Tell me more who else was struck down by NAS
Very ironic Conan is in the thumbnail and this is a bang zoom video
If I ever meet JYB at a con when they open up I'm definitely going to ask him about this
At least the dub version was 100% completed.
What about why GX and 5ds never gotten to finish. We need a video on that.
They just skipped GX season4 because they wanted to start dubbing 5ds sooner. 5ds is unclear tho, there are multiple theories, but nothing solid.
Just based on that opening I'm glad 4K kept the rights
I love how Conan is in the thumbnail.
Oh what a consequence that Rank-Up-Magic is an acronym for RUM.
My head cannon is that Yuma sufferes from a speech impedement due to his "Dadada" going missing. The impedement had gotten him bullied and made fun of at school. So much so that he remains silent and even uses sign language as a barrier. The only time when he would speak is to his sister and in Duels. But through the Encounter with Astral, his manner or speech is normalized and the cards he'd stutter the name of became their official names because of Number 39's influence. His hyperness in the series stemmed from feeling free to speak to others and letting his words to reach out to others unabated.
FYI: I never saw Zexal other than the 2-parter about Number 07 and Duel Links.
You know this wasn't the only time the lost dub was shown. I attended am event call Vox RoX in August 2014 in Anaheim CA and Johnny Yong Bosch showed clips from the dub to audience there. It was interesting to see.
I feel like they should upload the 26 episodes they made up on some anime sites like gogo anime or something. Because like I wanna see this dub
I actually grilled Johnny about it recently at Collect a Con Charlotte recently
I still hope that someday Xanthe Huynh can be in a yugioh dub
But can we talk about this thumbnail...ONLY ONE TRUTH PREVAILS
Dylan putting conan in a thumbnail? instalike
Hey yugioh everything can you do a video on italian dub since GX and 5DS are completely dubbed in italian
I still wonder what DSOD’s dub would have been like if 4Kids lost; perhaps it would have been better, but I’d prefer NYAV dubbing the franchise with Aniplex and Paramount sharing distribution rights. NYAV’s been on a roll lately; their dubs of movies like Weathering With You were superb. Aniplex is responsible for Demon Slayer though Bang Zoom is involved with that.
The reason why Paramount would even be involved is because Aniplex’s normal partner Funimation handled the home media releases of the Yu-GI-Oh! franchise before 4Kids sold it. Also, it would prevent Aniplex from charging so much for the sole physical releases because those would fall under Paramount Home Entertainment under the terms of the deal which would also include other offerings of theirs that Funimation never touched, like the Sword Art Online franchise which, even as terrible as it it is, I feel is popular enough to deserves more mainstream home media releases. Paramount would also get a cut of revenue from the limited editions which Aniplex on their own would still be able to do.
Ah man we could have gotten Johnny Young Bosch in a Yugioh english Dub. Now I'm even more sad but also a little mad.
We could have gotten Johnny and Vic working together on a dub of yugioh?!!!!? 😭💔 I need the full version of that opening in my life! That was amazing. Johnny needs to do more openings!
If that did happen we wouldn't have gotten Darkside
The theme sounds like something for a skate board show in 2008!!!
It
Is
Awesome!!!!!!! 14:05
Honestly, I wish Konami would let another company dub Yu-Gi-Oh. The name changes are stupid and the other dub changes are stupid. There are only a handful of changes I understand and even less that I agree with. When I found out about the censorship in middle school, I was still pissed off and this was during the days of DM. I was technically part of the target demographic at that time.
Though, while I am critical of 4Kids, the "Music to Duel By" CD I have somewhere in my house is an example of something I wish they kept doing.
From the bits of the Band zoom dub seems they would have kept the dub name and made edits including their own music and changing mouth movements. Their version wouldn't have been faithful either.
There really should be some consequences for a company behaving like this. It’s downright childish.
Okay now I'm really curious to be honest. I wonder if Yu-Gi-Oh! ZEXAL also had a hand as to why we can't watch the Japanese dub.
Konami let 4kids dub yugioh again
Now we have more reasons to hate Konami
Honestly wish they'd let someone else dub the show. I know they wanna make it appeal more to kids in English, but c'mon, do they need to destroy things in the dub?
...mostly salty about the VRAINS dub.
@@MordredStarfall they don't want It to appeal to kids they want it to appeal to what they thinks kids are, An average 7 year old kid will know that the censorship is stupid
And the biggest problem and what makes me hate them Is the fact that they think they own yugioh and can change the context whenever they want
What did they change with vrains?
I don't know much about vrains's dub
@@Wormopera i love p5
It’s like how Saban and Hasbro treat Super Sentai: they keep the source material locked behind copyright and give us a “kid friendly” approved version in its place. Konami doesn’t care about localizing Yu-Gi-Oh as it was intended. They just want to pump out something to appeal enough to kids so they can go out and buy the booster packs.
@@redstreak9430 and they abandoned glitter force :’(
omg Lelouch and Ichigo singing
Really hoping at some point we get the Snyder cut treatment with this dub, I would love to see the VA performances of this dub
I'd like to think 4kids and TVtokyo dueled for the rights of Zexal, 4kids just had more bullshit cards and won.
Bruh, I would've loved to see this dubbed by Bang Zoom! Lots of classic VA's work for that company. They did a pretty decent dub of Dragonball Super too(except Goku's voice.)
Meanwhile, I am rubbing my hands like a villain, because I am the person who won in this situration. Zexal is the only show to not get a german intro,(uses the english one instead) but the voices are not bad. And that is the one thing I hate about the english dub.
So, I basically got the thing I wanted and you guys didn't.
1. This is really fascinating to watch. But I'm not sure about the opening though. For some reason, the lyrics didn't sit well with me. 2. Highly surprised that she shown this here in New Zealand of all places. Who knew? (P.S Armageddon Expo is one of two conventions here. The other one is Overload which came into existence over the recent years so the panel was pre Overload).
Fun Fact: Probably of this lawsuit between 4Kids and TV Tokio. The German Dub of 5D's from Episode 65 based from the japensese original. The German Dub of all Yu-Gi-Oh! Series and 5D's before 65 has to be based of the 4Kids Dub
So wasn't I waiting for either a Top 10 or a Top 20 Most Censored Female Yu-Gi-Oh! Characters video in the future?
Also love how u used conan edogawa for the thumbnail
Wow that theme song is so much better than what we got
Wow, I've NEVER heard of this before.