Stop Bullying UPDATE - Mean Alpha Hen in Chicken Quarantine

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  • Опубликовано: 2 ноя 2024

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  • @gwenbliss129
    @gwenbliss129 Год назад +15

    Proverbs 12:10 "A righteous man regards the life of his animal." It is refreshing to hear of another person who doesn't just dismiss problems like pecking order as "that's just nature" and let animals suffer without lifting a finger. God made these creatures as a gift and delight in addition to being beneficial to us humans, but He also told us to TAKE CARE OF THEM and I believe that includes refereeing when necessary. Thank you for posting.

    • @realsimplemama
      @realsimplemama  Год назад +1

      I think it’s a balance of knowing what’s “normal”, and knowing when we need to interfere. And sometimes that line is a bit hard to see which is why we chicken tenders can always help each other. ✌🏻❤️🐓

  • @eatthesunhomestead
    @eatthesunhomestead 2 года назад +12

    "I won't buy myself new underwear, but I'll drop $40 on stupid chickens." 🤣🤣 Same!

    • @realsimplemama
      @realsimplemama  2 года назад +5

      At least it’s not drugs… at least it’s not drugs… 🤪

    • @eatthesunhomestead
      @eatthesunhomestead 2 года назад

      @@realsimplemama 🤣 Right. Mama life...

  • @schammond8993
    @schammond8993 2 года назад +9

    I believe this is a very late post but I just found this. Maybe it will help someone.
    My silver laced Wyandotte became a bully to my EE.
    It went from just a peck or two and became biting down and vicious attacks.
    Finally I pulled her out for the day out of sight from the girls.
    When I put her back I sat her down and held her head down to the ground for about 20 seconds. This tells her and the others I am the alpha.
    When I let her go the others attacked her and the fighting stopped. It was like they realized they didn't have to put up with her bullying.
    Now my golden is the lead dog and things are quiet.

  • @catalina8677
    @catalina8677 6 месяцев назад +2

    I’m a firm believer the naughty crate should away from the other chickens to give it full effect. She will be so grateful to be back with her friends she will shape up. But like this it’s confusing to her. She’s trapped … but still visiting…

    • @realsimplemama
      @realsimplemama  6 месяцев назад +1

      That’s a good point. I think it also depends on if you can keep the quarantine pen safe from smaller predators like raccoons. In my current situation I only have one “safe zone” but it does make sense to have them totally separate if possible. I was able to break my bully in this way! ✌🏻❤️🐓

  • @kalievesely3200
    @kalievesely3200 3 года назад +1

    She looks like she has friends the few hanging around her: very cute chickens.

  • @debracook1688
    @debracook1688 3 года назад +1

    Just a question. We brought 8 little chicks and as they got older, 4 were hens and 4 were roosters. We traded 3 roosters with our neighbor for 3 easter eggers, 3 months ago. They are only a few weeks younger than the Rhode Island Red chickens. The rooster does ok with them, but the hens still run them away from things such as snacks and food. Especially our smallest red hen. All the red hens started laying but the Easter eggers have not yet. They all go in the hen house together to sleep but it’s always stressful for them and me till they settle down. I personally make sure they have food and snacks even if I have to stand in the way. Several waters and feeders. But they still run them away. Question is will they ever integrate with the others, or do I need to get them there own house? I love all my chickens but I don’t like seeing the little ones picked on. No blood, they just run them away. Thank you.

    • @realsimplemama
      @realsimplemama  3 года назад

      I’m so sorry to hear this. My EEs took months to integrate, they’re so flighty and wild. If there’s not excessive pecking, feather pulling, or bleeding, then it probably is just taking the EEs a lot longer to adjust. You may also want to ask that neighbor what kind of set up they had there, what was working, and how those EEs behaved so you can make adjustments.
      Getting a second coop is always an idea but it will probably ensure that the EEs will never integrate, if that makes sense. So I would try a little longer to keep them together with food and water spread out.
      Finally, if getting them up to bed is a problem, don’t force the Easter Eggars to go up to bed until everybody else is already up and settled. Then once the main flock is either very sleepy or already asleep, you can put the Easter Eggers up on the roost yourself. Chickens tend to not really care who is next to them or what is going on once they are asleep.
      I hope that gives you a little bit of feedback but feel free to email me and we can talk more about it! theMama@realsimplemama.com

  • @planttasticcookinggardenin1561

    I’m trying to get my little flock of 3 back together again. They are 7 month old pullets. 1 bantam frizzle, 2 sex links. All laying. My frizzle got attacked horribly by a hawk right in front of me. She’s healed and i introduced her slowly leaving her in a crate. The lead hen will not accept her back and keeps attacking her as viciously as the hawk so now i have her in a crate (night and day, no free time) It has been over a week and every time i try to release her she goes right for my frizzle. All the birds are completely submissive to me and i can carry them around, bath them etc. i don’t know what to do. I’m just going to keep them separated but I feel terrible leaving her in that crate and will not be able to build a 2nd pen until spring. Any suggestions are welcome 🙏

  • @heatherrae7667
    @heatherrae7667 4 года назад +7

    I love your videos you're so real. I am one of the weird people that watched all the way to the end. Lol

    • @realsimplemama
      @realsimplemama  4 года назад +1

      LOL Well then sounds like you’re my kinda gal! Happy to help and hope you’re enjoying!

  • @garymanuel4710
    @garymanuel4710 Год назад +2

    Hi there Hope Kelly learn her lesson not to bully, but couple days did not seem to be long enough, most put them in Quarantine for 5 to 7 days, but i guess every chicken is different, Great to see how you love them, very lucky chickens for sure & have to say i know how you feel about them, i have 4, my g son named them, Lucky, tiny, chunky, & spot lol, i started with Lucky. my G son found him in the woods behind the house, brought him home, But the funny thing he told me about this chicken 2 weeks before he caught him, about this wild chicken & of course i never payed much attention, So now finding out who owned her i figured would be no problem, living in a small town of little over 2000 population, But nobody seem to own her, & knowing only couple people that had chickens here, never lost her, so thinking how she surived alone in the wild with fox"s weasels & minks, i said i would keep her,& named her Lucky, i think that was in oct, Then i said well i might as well look for couple more to keep her company of course lol so i got 3 more about 2 months ago. But i am no stranger to chickens my mom always raised chickens & i raised them myself back a few yrs ago also, But here in Canada our winters can be cruel with tempt dropping -20 & 30 & with wind dropping to -40, so i do keep a heat lamp during those exstreme temp, but has long their are no draft get at them they are fine & wrap their roost covered with cloth, about 3 feet of snow in their yard now so going to be awhile before they get to go outside for sure, But has long they are kept clean, warm & lots of food & water, they are happy lol

  • @angelareynolds1111
    @angelareynolds1111 4 месяца назад

    I love your videos!!

  • @diodio9494
    @diodio9494 4 года назад +1

    Hey there. I have 6wk old chicks 2 leghorns, 1 Americana, 1 Plymouth rock all 4 of them hens and 1 barred Plymouth rock rooster. My rooster has all his ladies in order except 1 leghorn she beats him and sometimes the others but mostly him to the point he has bloody pecks on his legs and feet. She will be sitting there doing nothing and out of nowhere just start beating the hell out of the rooster. How do I stop this behavior I have intervened at times and picked her up during her fits of rage and she calms down immediately and wants to cuddle. I can't watch them every second to intervene what can I do about it?

    • @realsimplemama
      @realsimplemama  4 года назад +1

      Hmm. I would remove her from the situation and see if it improves. She can be within sight and earshot of the flock but give the rooster a chance to establish himself as the alpha. Then in theory when she returns she will be lower down in the pecking order. If that doesn’t work then she may have to be rehomed for it to be truly resolved but that’s just my opinion. And I’d quarantine her for at least a week.

  • @kathynelson-burns4197
    @kathynelson-burns4197 4 года назад +1

    How do you keep your birds from flying over the fence, and how do you keep them safe from predators ?

    • @realsimplemama
      @realsimplemama  4 года назад +2

      Hi! Lots of ways - I clip one wing once a year, and we don’t have any structure in the run that they can hop on and then hop out. We actually just installed bird netting too so the run has a “ceiling”.
      Predators... that’s a complicated question. I have multiple videos on my channel but you need to think about diggers as well as aerial predators. The most important thing is the coop with predator proof locks and hardware cloth.

  • @PLJS2018
    @PLJS2018 3 года назад +1

    It may take longer ... keep us informed. I have a bunch of mean girls!! Different ages. I have Older girls(2) , about 25 weeks(8) & 18 weeks (10) we just inter grated them all together. I also have 1 rooster. They are at day 5 and it’s getting better May leave them in pen until weekend just watching closely!! The freedom to roam the big back yard!! Hoping for success!!

  • @justwhatido
    @justwhatido 2 года назад +1

    Would that work with a roster that won't stop attacking one of the hens?

    • @realsimplemama
      @realsimplemama  2 года назад +1

      Yes and no - you can certainly try this if you have the time! But I’d check your rooster to hen ratio (should be 1:6 or more) and keep in mind that you may have to rehome him.

    • @justwhatido
      @justwhatido 2 года назад +2

      @@realsimplemama Maybe i just have a racist rooster... I only have one rooster and about 10 or so hens and he only attacks the 2 black hens. The rest he is fine with even the ducks and turkeys.

  • @benedictcumberbatch4275
    @benedictcumberbatch4275 Год назад

    Sounds like you spend a lot of time with your chickens

  • @silkiechickens
    @silkiechickens 3 года назад +1

    I thought i am the only one to separate my chickens up with different segments... mine had the same issue too!

    • @realsimplemama
      @realsimplemama  3 года назад

      Hey! So what ended up happening? Did it work?

  • @Heyjonjohnson
    @Heyjonjohnson 4 года назад +2

    I just became a chicken shepherd..
    I have a bunch a little chicks, one of them had as scab on her back.. all the others are attracted to it.. I guess I will just sort of quarantine her and let her heal up.

    • @granmabern5283
      @granmabern5283 Год назад

      We spray any red spot with methylene blue diluted, it dyes blue and they don’t peck at blue.😊you buy it at the pharmacy near the iodine.😊

  • @shirleydrouin1065
    @shirleydrouin1065 5 лет назад +2

    I have two three year hens and two 20+ week old pullets. I've had them now for approx. six weeks and the hens bully the pullets. Do you think I could separate both hens into one cage like the size you have in order to stop their bullying? Two hens in one cage a good idea?

    • @realsimplemama
      @realsimplemama  5 лет назад +1

      Yes two hens could go in the same cage for sure. You’d want to quarantine them at least 5 days and check on them as often as possible to make sure they don’t spoil their food or spill their water. When you integrate them again, do it at night! Good luck!

    • @shirleydrouin1065
      @shirleydrouin1065 5 лет назад +1

      @@realsimplemama Thank you so much. Will go that route tomorrow. I'll try to remember to let you know the results.

    • @shirleydrouin1065
      @shirleydrouin1065 5 лет назад +2

      So on the fifth day, I attempted to reintegrate the 2 bullys
      (1 Orpington, 1 Barred Rock) back in with the two pullets (1 Welsummer,
      1 Speckled Sussex). It wasn't but within minutes that they returned to their old habits. Is it because I did it in the morning vs at night as you suggested.
      I live in (Madison, WI), so I can only have four chickens and not only have these two 3 year old bully's not stopped with their bullying, they haven't laid an egg since April 11, 2019. It's not a molting thing, it's not a space thing, they are very healthy and eat, scratch, get to free range for an hour or more before sundown. So I'm at a lost. My bigger concern is that the pullets are going to be stressed out to the point that they will not lay. I want eggs. I'm at the point that perhaps I need to replace them, 'cause they are not earning their keep and I'm having to buy eggs. What to do?

    • @realsimplemama
      @realsimplemama  5 лет назад +1

      If you have the time and the patience, I would try one more time. Do a good week or more. Keep the crate either in with the other pullets, or right next to their pen so that everybody can see and hear each other all the time. I will keep them separated like I said for at least seven days, and put them back in with the others in the middle of the night. After that, if it has still continued, then the pecking order is not going to be real established with those birds probably and I would suggest getting rid of them as sad as that is. Feel free to email me too theMama@realsimplemama.com

    • @shirleydrouin1065
      @shirleydrouin1065 5 лет назад +1

      ​@@realsimplemama Seven days have past and I thought, oh, please let this work. It wasn't more than 15 seconds and the hens went after the pullets. This time, it seemed even worse. Revenge time? If this had worked, I intended to keep them, even though the two 3 1/2 year old hens haven't laid an egg since April 11th, but now with the continued bullying, they have to leave the "nest". We are restricted to having 4 hens in the city, so it's time to find 2 replacement hens that get along and lay eggs. Appreciate your input. Thank you.

  • @TheAncientOneYT
    @TheAncientOneYT 3 года назад

    RUclips Algo recommended this vid, scary thing is not only do I keep chickens - I have that same coop..., Going through same issue (Big Brother Conspiracy) - in the process of integrating my pullets, while my Silver Wyandotte is trying to brutally attack them (had one bleeding not long ago) with missing feathers on her back. Had to separate them for now. Have Gold and Silver Laced Wyandotte's, Columbian Rock Cross, and 2 Bard Rocks. My pullets are still some 4-5 weeks away from ready to lay but were ready for the weather here. Ended up utilizing the coop in way the pullets can use the bottom half and the hens can get in via side door (relocated the ramp) then separated the yard they are in so they have their own sides, entrances, etc.. I know my neighbors have been enjoying free eggs for a few years now, I get too many for my household alone :) Wyandotte's are more a cold hardy bird. They can handle a little heat, but they overheat easily. nothing some shade and refrigerated watermelon cannot cure :)

    • @realsimplemama
      @realsimplemama  3 года назад +1

      Well hi! I’m glad you’re here. But I’m so sorry for the trouble with integration. Can I help?

    • @TheAncientOneYT
      @TheAncientOneYT 3 года назад

      @@realsimplemama Thanks but it will sort itself out, have had to deal with this in the past, once my weather here clears a bit and permits me to monitor them better I will be separating out my silver Wyandotte and giving her the space the juvenile pullets are using. She will lose her status but pecking order will sort back out and as usual, it should remedy the issue. She's the only hen causing an issue so will be easy to fix. If not, fried chicken? (only kidding on that last bit, I don't raise my hens for meat) I just found it odd that I didn't search anything related to this, or anything chicken related actually - but good ol big brother watching me in my cameras recommended it haha :)

    • @realsimplemama
      @realsimplemama  3 года назад

      Lol! Yes you definitely sound like you know what you’re doing. Adding to the flock is so worth it but it is suuuch a pain! Good luck to you and I’m always here if you need anything.

  • @kalievesely3200
    @kalievesely3200 3 года назад +2

    I trained my rooster and now he’s the sweetest boy but I did it for like an hour or two.. not two days!

    • @kalievesely3200
      @kalievesely3200 3 года назад +1

      This way they actually learn because you keep doing it when they mess up..

  • @monicaperez2843
    @monicaperez2843 4 года назад

    The hen in the foreground in 8:05 needs a saddle . . . same hen inside the cage at 31:10. Even though her injuries were not produced by a rooster, they need to be covered, so as not to attract further injury by the other hens or the bullying hen.

    • @realsimplemama
      @realsimplemama  4 года назад +1

      Yes that’s a good point. I think my girls were distracted by the fact that I introduced multiple new birds at the same time and kept them all occupied with hanging treats and other things. But you’re right, as a rule hide raw skin or bloody injuries as it attracts more pecking.

  • @jimmy5F
    @jimmy5F 4 года назад +1

    A rooster's job is to keep order in the flock, and be the 'watchdog'.

    • @realsimplemama
      @realsimplemama  4 года назад +1

      Agreed! And pecking order is a necessary thing. But an alpha can lead and keep order without one member being bloodied.

    • @jennifers7412
      @jennifers7412 3 года назад

      Tell that to my hen that started attacking the other hens and fights the rooster when he tries to intervene

    • @StopHighCrimeInTexas
      @StopHighCrimeInTexas 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@realsimplemamaThis!!

  • @mariannefroholdt9783
    @mariannefroholdt9783 4 года назад +2

    Yes if There is one hen that is meen all the time,it has to be removed.

  • @georgettemcguire6820
    @georgettemcguire6820 11 месяцев назад +1

    I to have a bully, big white , she's past mean 😒 I got soft and let her out after 5 days and she got worse . She now separated for good, she also one of my good layers .

    • @realsimplemama
      @realsimplemama  11 месяцев назад +2

      Oh no. I’m so sorry. It’s so frustrating when we care about our flock but they’re being jerks! I had to trade my big bully to another flock eventually but I hope you have better luck! ✌🏻❤️🐓

  • @sweettoothmomma2621
    @sweettoothmomma2621 2 года назад +1

    Do you use the tire for a bathing spot?

    • @realsimplemama
      @realsimplemama  2 года назад

      Yep! It’s a dedicated dust bath, though there are still quite a few “unofficial” dust bath spots throughout the chicken run.

    • @sweettoothmomma2621
      @sweettoothmomma2621 2 года назад

      @@realsimplemama Thank you! I just watched your other video explaining how you made it 😊

  • @samiyamaza5380
    @samiyamaza5380 3 года назад

    What is that blue square at the end of the yard? I think it is a green .

    • @realsimplemama
      @realsimplemama  3 года назад

      Hi! If it’s what I think you see it’s a grazing box. I have videos about how to start one 👍🏼

  • @SureHowDoYouKnow
    @SureHowDoYouKnow 3 года назад

    How did things turn out with everyone.. How are they in the order now?

    • @realsimplemama
      @realsimplemama  3 года назад +2

      We are good! Calypso had a bad molt about 6 months ago and she’s now 2-3 in the order. We have a new bully further down the chain but I’m working on that. This quarantine plan did work.

  • @bangfaryzgemingbiasa6983
    @bangfaryzgemingbiasa6983 4 года назад

    Stop bullying yang

  • @leejennifercorlewayres9193
    @leejennifercorlewayres9193 Год назад +1

    I locked up a bully but when I let her out she was worse than before. 🙈

    • @realsimplemama
      @realsimplemama  Год назад +1

      Oh no. I’m so sorry. If you’d like help or to talk about it more, I’m here for you. theMama@realsimplemama.com

  • @jenhoful
    @jenhoful Год назад +1

    I got the same problem, our current flock of 3 won’t accept the 2 newbies. I also am considering a ‘naughty crate’.

    • @realsimplemama
      @realsimplemama  Год назад +1

      It can be such a pain, and hard to watch as your heart goes out to the new guys. More treats? Change up their space? Supervised field trips? I’ll help more if you need me! ✌🏻❤️🐓 theMama@realsimplemama.com

    • @jenhoful
      @jenhoful Год назад

      @@realsimplemama I put the alpha back into the naughty crate, which she hates and her second and 3rd sisters are behaving just as badly to the newbies. So I’ll have to seperate them again and block off part of the chicken run with a coop size shelter and wait a bit longer. I am trying to persevere with the newbies, they are slightly younger, same breed and a bit darker in shade. I can’t believe the current 3 struggle, really thought they would be ok.

  • @mariannefroholdt9783
    @mariannefroholdt9783 4 года назад +1

    Do you give them leftovers and so on?they love that😉

    • @realsimplemama
      @realsimplemama  4 года назад +1

      Yes sometimes! They get special treats and snacks about every other day.

  • @narutouzamaki3459
    @narutouzamaki3459 3 года назад +1

    I litteraly am not joking I have everyone breed of these chickens

  • @mariannefroholdt9783
    @mariannefroholdt9783 4 года назад +3

    If they dont have a lot of space,they can have problems,ore if they are bored.they need to find gras,and bugs so if they have things to so,then There will not be so many problems.

    • @KTindall290
      @KTindall290 4 года назад +3

      I disagree. We have 18 hens and they are able to roam the whole acre and I have one that picks on the others

    • @thefreese1
      @thefreese1 2 года назад +1

      @@KTindall290 i agree...i have 1-1/2 acres fenced in... they roam all day long.
      They do okay all day other then the occasional peck away at feed time... typical top hen behavior... but at roosting time she's a bitch and has even kicked the other 4 hens out of the henhouse...
      I have her at day 3 of quarantine.. she is really agitated and stressed...
      I want to let her out but I'm keeping her in for a couple more days..
      After that she better get along at roosting time because I'm tired of having to grab chickens at night to put on the roost... if she continues... she's gone

  • @hassaanasim4873
    @hassaanasim4873 3 года назад

    It's still the same. Nothing has changed after putting him in and out of the cage

    • @realsimplemama
      @realsimplemama  3 года назад

      How long did you do it for? It needs to be a week minimum. And no letting out at night or anything.

    • @hassaanasim4873
      @hassaanasim4873 3 года назад

      @@realsimplemama did tou see a difference in your flock?

    • @realsimplemama
      @realsimplemama  3 года назад +1

      My EEs are honestly really flighty too. It may be something with the breed. But I did have success with my bully hen getting the point. (More recently I had a hen in the middle of the pecking order who was bullying. Locked her up for 2-3 weeks. Let her out after and 30 minutes later she was out of control. Don’t have time for that so I got rid of her.) 🤷🏻‍♀️

    • @hassaanasim4873
      @hassaanasim4873 3 года назад

      @@realsimplemama so it Did working for the hen in this video?

    • @realsimplemama
      @realsimplemama  3 года назад

      Yep! She’s about 3 in the order now. It’s like life in the flock moved on without her so when she got back she had been voted down.

  • @100realworldamericanpatrio9
    @100realworldamericanpatrio9 2 года назад

    😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😀🤗😇

  • @johnniemcelwee8027
    @johnniemcelwee8027 Год назад +1

    Need to talk louder.