Welcome to inflation gamers, the price of the PS5 controller also just went up on price, this will be the new normal, not even Nintendo is immune to inflation, the price of new tech will be higher, I expect the Switch 2 to be at least $400 to $500, the days of $300 and $500 consoles are gone. groceries, wood, metals, gas, vehicles and homes have doubled to tripled in Price, most console gamers are dumb, delusional children that don't live in reality.
@@Meowtro that’s a bit facetious. I agree the price is a bit crazy, but you can’t tell me you cannot see the difference between performance and fidelity modes
@@twistedtxb By "These developers" you mean engineers? I don't think they decided on the price. Executives decided the price based on costs and sales data. They know that streamers needing to keep up with trends will get them and write them off as a business expense. People with more money than sense to run out for one too. People buy 4090's for $2,000 these days.
They'll both make something that's great from a tech standpoint, then proceed to charge you for a charging port, not even the cable, but the charging port itself.
@@ArielCleirigh The original iPhone that was revolutionary tech costed $500 in 2007 and now that it's just evolutionary it costs double of that, not taking inflation into account.
Valid argument adds for pirce they are actually promoting a piece of software to accelerate older ps5 games to habe higher textures and framrates. So bloodbourne at 4k 60 may be possible
The lack of upright stand was an insult, the price was a gut punch, and the lack of disk drive is a dealbreaker Any and all excitement that I had for this has immediately fizzled out
I agree. Honestly, I was fully prepared to spend $6-700 on a PS5 Pro, as the price was what I expected, and despite what people are saying, it IS a reasonable price for what it offers. But the "stand not included", which was a literal middle finger to consumers & digital only, killed it for me. Granted, you CAN buy the disc drive separately.... for $80.
@@EmeraldMage7188 If someone can't afford the PS5 Pro for 700 dollars, then they can't even afford the required TV or monitor to get the benefits of having the Pro in the first place. This is fake outrage.
Is a disk drive and HDD the same thing or are they two different components? If they are different components are they attached to each other? Like you need the disk drive to place the disk on the HDD to read and download its data etc. please explain to me how this works because I just thought of a crazy idea that I want to run by people but I need to know exactly how these two things work and what they are. Thank you
$810 USD before tax. it's even worse in Australia. it will be at least $1200 AUD and since there's a thing called "Australia tax" it will be bumped up more with my guess being around $1400 to $1500 AUD for everything. I dunno what's worse: buying a 4080 super or a PS5 Pro.
Its the difference between 1440p and 4K. Are you seriously saying all the difference between those two resolutions is a slightly better background? Dude i wont even play video games that are under 4k resolution anymore it looks too fuzzy to me
@@Pingieking yeah I’ll probably be switching to PC pretty soon after I move it sucks I can’t justify sticking with Xbox or a PlayStation , unless NexGen runs at 240 fps min lmao , but why not have a machine that could play halo and Spider-Man
@@PingiekingMan honestly I been seriously thinking about switching over to PC once this console generation is over. The Switch 2 will probably be the last console I buy besides some retro stuff.
@@SolidSnake240 In hindsight I should have skipped this current gen (PS5) and stopped at PS4. Almost every PS5 game is on either the PS4 or PC these days.
"Our studies show the overwhelming majority of players care less about graphics than gameplay (performance). Here's $700 for better graphics when we've got the weakest game catalogue in Playstation history." Are you kidding me? Did they listen to the words coming out of their own mouths?!?
I got a PS5 BUNDLE, with Ratchet & Clank ARA, and a second Dualsense controller for $639.90 (after tax). So depending where you are in the U.S this is actually going to cost closer to $750 or more and you get no disc drive and a regular Dualsense (not even an edge). Why does this even exist? More than half the library is cross generational with very few games actually being PS5 exclusive.
I got the exact same bundle for $800 CAD. The PS5 Pro will cost like $950 up here and doesn't even come with shit. It sucks because I really like how they've improved the performance, but at what cost?
@@jeremybrown9611 really I’m talking about more casual players/consumers, rather then the hardcore fans. It also depends on when GTA6 launches and if some places try to run some type of combo deal to move product. I know rumor’s been going around already of some type of exclusivity deal with Sony for it, and if it turns out to be true could totally see Sony trying to bundle it to help boost sales.
Not really needed cause it wasnt long before the next gen happened, plus the base games for ps4 and one were still made for the ogs not the pro versions so needed is a bit of a stretch
They unlike MS dont have that many options. I know this sounds dumb especialy when Sony won the console war but MS is such a giant they can bite the bullet and whatever they make next night be something that makes Sony business model obsolete. As for here and now Sony oursells xbox 5:1 so they can set the price but Im really curious who outside of US is going to buy this machine.
@@ArielCleirighu need phone and car and pc or tablet but you dont need 1000€ costing gaming console. You can game much cheaper elsewhere. (like u can get good smartphone for much cheaper than 1000€too). I paid 350€ with months of GP when I bought Series X. It can run Gears 5, Ori etc. Several games even 120 fps. And with it's fps boost and scaling older games it will run even xbox360 backward compatiple games 60 fps/4k. Thats standars. OG PS5 was supposedly expected to run games with 60 fps/4k already at launch too but Sony lied. Now u need to pay them 800 to 1000€ more to get what you already paid for when buying PS5. Insane.
You do realize that you don’t have to buy it um games are still coming to the original ps5 unless you have a issue with people having options then stick with the original
$700 for a system that has less features out of the box than the base due to no disc drive (costs $80 to get), and don't give me any of that "all games require download/patches" crap cuz its false and they couldn't even include the $30 plastic stand or bundle it with one of the 3 exclusives the system currently has. I probably wasn't gonna upgrade anyway, I stuck with the base ps4 all through its life but that disc drive not being built in means I'm guaranteed to be sticking with the base here too.
Where I live ( EU) the digital version of the PS5 today is 449.99. Asking someone to pay almost 2 times that is insane. And the minimum wage is 820/month. This are insane prices.
I've been saying this for years. At some point, game rendering and fidelity will get to a point where you can't tell the difference between the new fancy releases and the games on last gen hardware. It's the same with higher screen resolutions and frame rates, and I honestly don't know if the PS6 will have much difference to the PS5 Pro, apart from maybe higher frame rates.
This is why I don’t understand modern gaming. Why the hell would I buy a $700 console that slightly improves the visuals that I won’t be able to tell the difference? All this angle checking to see an extra pixel to justify wasting almost a band?
Its not simply the difference of price between countries/continents. Its the average wage that is not even close. US average wages are way above the average wage in Europe. Ofc its getting balance by a higher cost of living in US compared to Europe but in the end wasting 700 dollars as an American vs 800 euros as a European outside of some exceptions(Germany, Louxemburg, Netherlands and a few others) is almost close to depositing a full wage, especially if you consider the additional disk slot. Dear lord.
lol, their whole selling point is it "looks a little bit better".. then proceeds to publish adverts on low bit-rate platforms.. these guys need 'Self-Awareness Training™'
4:50 This is why I don’t get why more people choose fidelity over performance. I can tell the difference between 30 FPS and 60 FPS. I can’t tell the difference when I choose fidelity mode and when I don’t.
I have a friend who claims he only wants to see the best graphics possible. He won't even try performance mode, even though I told him to just try it out. You can't change some people...
In not comfortable with building/tinkering with a lot of things, but you know what makes me learn? This. I’m going to figure out building a rig. There’s a wealth of info online, and people kind enough to help. $700 for a proprietary box, with no optical drive, is wild. The missing stand is a “f you, pay me” move. Sony is smelling themselves, as they do at least once a generation when their competitor seems to have been erased. Buy a PC. This is my tipping point.
@@Sagan_Blandard20XX That's infuriating. Meanwhile Samsung sold me a laptop with a defective motherboard that keeps sending twice the load to my speakers and blowing them out, also destroying the soldered on headphone jack. They still want me to pay for them to repair it and them send it back worse off than before, because Samsung always destroys laptops when they "repair" them. I wish I could just switch out the board, but they have everything soldered to it and I'll have to replace all of those, too, which I can't because Samsung doesn't sell their overpriced proprietary parts commercially. And even if they did, it would still cost more than this $3300 laptop + the $1450 of repairs I've already had. Never buy a Samsung laptop. Great phones, garbage laptops. I have $1600 worth of midi instruments sitting unable to be used.
The PS5 Pro!!! You can't afford it so you might as well buy a regular PS5, or a Steam Deck which is cheaper, portable, and can play almost all of the PS5 games that are released on Steam.
People saying they will get this for gta6 to run it above 30fps 😂😂😂😂😂😂guys… it has the same cpu as the ps5…. Better graphics don’t matter when it’s bottlenecked by the same cpu 😂 z
To counter your point on PCs being "too expensive", $700 is already well on your way to get a good pc, so at that point you just save up for a bit longer and you can have what you need. That's the whole key to that situation, patience. If buying a console as soon as you acquire half of the money for a good pc instead of putting into a savings account, chances are you're not very responsible with money
$700 won't even get you close to a great GPU if you want to build your own PC. However, at $700, I'd rather spend the extra $1000 for a Zephyrus G14 on sale. I can probably get it for even less on Black Friday.
Nvm, I was wrong. A 4070 Super is $100 less than a PS5 Pro without the disk drive or stand 😂💀. An amazing gaming PC costs just barely over a PS5 Pro. And if you want to play online, even less so. You can spend $1500 to get twice the performance of the almost $900 PS5 Pro (almost $900 US with disk drive, stand, and tax). Lmao.
This was brutal. Pooping on your current system is insane. The differences are so minuscule in real time. Sony should be embarrassed. Not impressive in the least
This thing is too much money, $700 for a console is insane, and when you think about it, the damn thing has a cpu bottle neck, so every game that runs bad because of the cpu won’t run better because the cpu is the damn same
Launch Prices: PS4 (Nov 2013): $399, €399, £349 PS4 Pro (Nov 2016): $399, €399, £349 PS5 (Nov 2020): $499, €499, £449 PS5 Pro (assumed Nov 2024): $799, €899, £799 Who is in charge of pricing because they really dropped the ball. Exchange rates are completely off to an inexcusable ratio plus the unnecessary and unworthy increase.
1:09 They do that with their hands because they are naturally inclined to make a pointing gesture but their speaking coach told them that pointing makes them look aggressive. So they force themselves to keep the index finger curled while gesturing.
60 fps is always welcomed but with complete honesty!! I still consider solid 30 fps with consistent frame pacing to be a very playable experience. I played Dead Space Remake on my Series S (as it is available on Gamepass) despite having a PS5, and had a great time with it.
Immediately after you asked, “But is it $700 good?” I hear an ad go off like, “I just saved $700 with Liberty Mutual!” I was only listening, so I thought you had memed it in, but after I realized it was an actual ad, I died. I’m dead now.
There are people who are still on the fence about buying a PS5. Now Sony wants to push out a Pro version for $700 and doesn't come with a disc drive and side stand?
Another thing about premium consoles vs PC that favors buying a console apart from price and ease is space. A high-end PC setup takes up a lot of space. I live alone in an apartment and my desk and setup is in the space where a normal person (or someone with a partner) would have their TV and a console. My friend who's also a PC gamer but lives with his GF needs to have his PC in a closet because it's the only space it fits without taking up their entire living- or bedroom.
@@switchboy2320A $1500 gaming PC will perform twice as well as the PS6 and won't charge you $120 a year to use your own internet, which you already pay for.
I used to build my own PC back in the days however I found myself using it less and less because now it's super common to have a fully spec'ed out macbook pro for work and I do everything on it except for gaming. It doesn't make sense for me to keep a separate rig for gaming. So playing games on console just saves so much hassle
In turn, you could get a solid controller adapter for your phone, a GeForce now ultimate account (they use a 4080 gpu for cloud based) and screen cast to your tv for much cheaper and basically using stuff you have.
Apparently, people do not understand why Sony decided to price the device at such an exaggerated price. It is trying to prepare the world from now on, so that when their next device is released in 2027, its price will be very close to the current price of the Pro, and perhaps more.
I think they were originally planning to feature Concord. But due to circumstances they had to throw something else together and that’s why it’s current and past games . And if people buy and support this and it does well. It sets a precedent for the PS6 to start at 700$ and it’s Pro Version will be 900$ or something crazy
@@susanna8612 yea like on console all games are designed to run at a certain graphical quality and fps so having stronger hardware does basically nothing other than improved load times and perhaps smoother gameplay on larger games
This generation has been quite disappointing and pathetic. We're 4 years in and companies are still focusing primarily on hardware instead of delivering unique software designed for current technology. There are way too many cross generation games made with last generation tech (Unreal Engine 4 for instance), remasters and remakes. The fact that the PS5 Pro doesn't have an optical drive makes the original PS5 model the best Sony console this generation because it's the only one that reads discs without having to connect to the internet.
I was always shouting to hills "consoles playing games at 4k and 60fps is basically a lie" way back when this shit came out the first time. People are dum
Salaries are different in EU, GB and Japan (usually lower than in the US I guess, at least for me). Japan rarely has real salary increases and is struggling under having inflations hit it more than ever. I can't imagine spending 140000yen for ps5 pro and disk. They just increased the regular version by 20%. It is an insane price tag.
I think they were originally planning to feature Concord. But due to circumstances they had to throw something else together and that’s why it’s current and past games
@@SIPEROTH I have 4 consoles of older generations. All of them stand vertically because of the space constraints. Would not be able to have and use the consoles without the stands.
@@WinterWerewolf I don't know what consoles you have vertically to comment on. What i do know is that the PS5 stands just fine vertically without a stand. I have it next to my TV i didn't even bother putting a stand because it didn't seem to need it. Is absolutely solid and stands just fine. Not only that but without the stand you save space because you can put something else very close next to it without the stand circle getting in the way. Millions of people have their PS5 vertically without a stand and is just fine. I have no idea why you feel is necessary.
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2020: EBay scalping gamers ✅
2024: Sony scalping gamers ✅
Welcome to inflation gamers, the price of the PS5 controller also just went up on price, this will be the new normal, not even Nintendo is immune to inflation, the price of new tech will be higher, I expect the Switch 2 to be at least $400 to $500, the days of $300 and $500 consoles are gone. groceries, wood, metals, gas, vehicles and homes have doubled to tripled in Price, most console gamers are dumb, delusional children that don't live in reality.
Can’t tell you how excited I am to spend 700 on a console where I can see the bushes a little clearer but not much , let’s calm down it’s no PC
Dumb people pretending a PS5 Pro at $500 you all are so delusional, A company is made to make money Not charity.
Play great games that mostly come out before PS5 with PS5 PRO.😅
2027: Sony scalping Scalpers
700 bucks to squint my eyes and say "Yeah I guess it looks better."
Did you play Fidelity and Performance mode in your games?
@@otherprisma7354 Only performance
$700 to pause and zoom in on objects 50ft away.
these developers aren't living on the same planet
@@Meowtro that’s a bit facetious. I agree the price is a bit crazy, but you can’t tell me you cannot see the difference between performance and fidelity modes
So are most gamers obsessed with 60fps or bust
@@twistedtxb By "These developers" you mean engineers? I don't think they decided on the price. Executives decided the price based on costs and sales data. They know that streamers needing to keep up with trends will get them and write them off as a business expense. People with more money than sense to run out for one too. People buy 4090's for $2,000 these days.
@@Th0rneo Honestly on PS5 games there's not a huge difference unless you stop and look for them.
Call it Concord Tax for the game failing to be a success 😅🤭
This won't sell well now because of this either. Sony just keeps losing!
feels bad for japan.
😄good 1
Shit will flop just as hard as concord
@@718Hokage, what does that have to do with anything?
PS5 pro flushing your money down the PSSR.
Lol.
Points!
Apple and Sony competing to see who can be the bigger grifter
They'll both make something that's great from a tech standpoint, then proceed to charge you for a charging port, not even the cable, but the charging port itself.
Apple ain’t got nothing on this console. At least we expect every phone to come out to be basically the same this console has no excuse.
Again Ironically way many people buying iPhone at $1000 or higher so. $700 PS5 Pro is not so expensive if you think about it.
@@ArielCleirigh The original iPhone that was revolutionary tech costed $500 in 2007 and now that it's just evolutionary it costs double of that, not taking inflation into account.
and Samsung
Another $700 and Bloodborne will still not run at 60fps.
@@jeffreymaxson6216 what a crime 😔
Valid argument adds for pirce they are actually promoting a piece of software to accelerate older ps5 games to habe higher textures and framrates. So bloodbourne at 4k 60 may be possible
At this point, it should be getting a 240fps mode
Or RDR2, would love to play it in 60 i guess PC is the way for me
A rumor said PS is saving Bloodborne Remake for PS6 as they did with Demon souls.
This obsession of graphics is going to destroy Sony
im so tired of EVERY game needing to be photo real.
i miss stylized games, hardly any get made now by AAA devs
@@_Rick___Grimes_ It's the reason why I like Nintendo and Indie games.
Facts ❤@@MegaDarkness5000
Sony 2006 is back.
That’s immediately what I thought of, when Sony tried to charge $600 dollars for the PS3… on the cusp of a RECESSION!
At least the launch PS3 was fully backwards compatible
@@NickJR528Dude, if ps5 pro had BC it would be worth $700 easily.
Yeah, the backwards compatible PS3 with a bluray drive sucked.
This is what happens when one side has the monopoly of people. U PlayStation users did it to yourself
The lack of upright stand was an insult, the price was a gut punch, and the lack of disk drive is a dealbreaker
Any and all excitement that I had for this has immediately fizzled out
I agree. Honestly, I was fully prepared to spend $6-700 on a PS5 Pro, as the price was what I expected, and despite what people are saying, it IS a reasonable price for what it offers.
But the "stand not included", which was a literal middle finger to consumers & digital only, killed it for me. Granted, you CAN buy the disc drive separately.... for $80.
you left out the "looks." Great design, if you like windmill blades in your living room.
Same! Sony is copy and paste apple products. Selling each parts
@@EmeraldMage7188 If someone can't afford the PS5 Pro for 700 dollars, then they can't even afford the required TV or monitor to get the benefits of having the Pro in the first place. This is fake outrage.
I don’t get why anyone would be excited for this. It’s $700 with no stand or disk drive. It’s a scam
$700 for a slightly better looking background is a crime. That’s and it’s like $850 if you want a disk drive.
You forgot to add the tax so it's MUCH worse, in California the average is 10% so you're paying at most 770$ for the console alone
Is a disk drive and HDD the same thing or are they two different components? If they are different components are they attached to each other? Like you need the disk drive to place the disk on the HDD to read and download its data etc. please explain to me how this works because I just thought of a crazy idea that I want to run by people but I need to know exactly how these two things work and what they are. Thank you
$810 USD before tax. it's even worse in Australia. it will be at least $1200 AUD and since there's a thing called "Australia tax" it will be bumped up more with my guess being around $1400 to $1500 AUD for everything.
I dunno what's worse: buying a 4080 super or a PS5 Pro.
Its the difference between 1440p and 4K. Are you seriously saying all the difference between those two resolutions is a slightly better background? Dude i wont even play video games that are under 4k resolution anymore it looks too fuzzy to me
@@TheEPICskwock yeah in motion it's practically not noticable.
Man the ps6 have a dark future
@@anisamara899 with so many Sony exclusives coming to PC, I'd just buy a gaming PC. It's only going to be like 10% more expensive than a PS6 anyway.
@@Pingieking yeah I’ll probably be switching to PC pretty soon after I move it sucks I can’t justify sticking with Xbox or a PlayStation , unless NexGen runs at 240 fps min lmao , but why not have a machine that could play halo and Spider-Man
@@PingiekingMan honestly I been seriously thinking about switching over to PC once this console generation is over. The Switch 2 will probably be the last console I buy besides some retro stuff.
@@SolidSnake240 In hindsight I should have skipped this current gen (PS5) and stopped at PS4. Almost every PS5 game is on either the PS4 or PC these days.
I can't wait for Playstation to come out and it's 999$
"Our studies show the overwhelming majority of players care less about graphics than gameplay (performance). Here's $700 for better graphics when we've got the weakest game catalogue in Playstation history."
Are you kidding me? Did they listen to the words coming out of their own mouths?!?
But now for $700, you don't have to choose 😅
At this point it's almost like they are intentionally rubbing it in how much they aren't giving you what you actually want.
I got a PS5 BUNDLE, with Ratchet & Clank ARA, and a second Dualsense controller for $639.90 (after tax). So depending where you are in the U.S this is actually going to cost closer to $750 or more and you get no disc drive and a regular Dualsense (not even an edge). Why does this even exist? More than half the library is cross generational with very few games actually being PS5 exclusive.
This is my exact question also!
I got the exact same bundle for $800 CAD. The PS5 Pro will cost like $950 up here and doesn't even come with shit. It sucks because I really like how they've improved the performance, but at what cost?
For the people who buy a PlayStation for GTA6
@@patriotsfan122480 Bruh lets be real GTA players don't care bout that. But hey we'll see just how much it boost things
@@jeremybrown9611 really I’m talking about more casual players/consumers, rather then the hardcore fans. It also depends on when GTA6 launches and if some places try to run some type of combo deal to move product. I know rumor’s been going around already of some type of exclusivity deal with Sony for it, and if it turns out to be true could totally see Sony trying to bundle it to help boost sales.
700$ usd is in Canada 960$ + 15% taxes. So it’s over a 1000$. We have to slow down as consumers cuz we are allowing them to screw us over
Xbox One X and PS4 Pro was needed because the base consoles were under powered. No one needs a Pro version of current gen.
Yeah that's kind of where I land too.
According to Black Myth Wukong devs you need a Pro version so.
@@ArielCleirigh You should just get a pc then so
@@ArielCleirighthat game was made for pc. It’s not optimized for ps5
Not really needed cause it wasnt long before the next gen happened, plus the base games for ps4 and one were still made for the ogs not the pro versions so needed is a bit of a stretch
Sony legitimately thinks they're Apple
then dont buy it brokie. It wasn't meant for you..its for real enthusiasts. GTFO of here crybaby.
They unlike MS dont have that many options. I know this sounds dumb especialy when Sony won the console war but MS is such a giant they can bite the bullet and whatever they make next night be something that makes Sony business model obsolete. As for here and now Sony oursells xbox 5:1 so they can set the price but Im really curious who outside of US is going to buy this machine.
700$ for a console when I can barley afford bread...
Barley… i see what you did there 😂
Yet many people buying iPhone at $1000 or more, Ironic Isn't it.
then dont buy it brokie. It wasn't meant for you..its for real enthusiasts. GTFO of here crybaby.
@@ArielCleirigh u can live without PS5
@@ArielCleirighu need phone and car and pc or tablet but you dont need 1000€ costing gaming console. You can game much cheaper elsewhere. (like u can get good smartphone for much cheaper than 1000€too).
I paid 350€ with months of GP when I bought Series X. It can run Gears 5, Ori etc. Several games even 120 fps. And with it's fps boost and scaling older games it will run even xbox360 backward compatiple games 60 fps/4k. Thats standars.
OG PS5 was supposedly expected to run games with 60 fps/4k already at launch too but Sony lied. Now u need to pay them 800 to 1000€ more to get what you already paid for when buying PS5. Insane.
PS6 $1500, sold the controller separately too LMAO !
ps7 power cord sold separately lol
please stop giving them ideas
Sony's butt hurt about Concord
PS5 pro price before Concord happened: 599.
PS5 Pro price *after* Concord happened: 699.
they haven’t even maximized the PS5s potential i dont understand why this generation would need an update. I doubt anyone would buy the pro
You do realize that you don’t have to buy it um games are still coming to the original ps5 unless you have a issue with people having options then stick with the original
Sony shills will buy it
Would you be more inclined to buy a PlayStation 5/pro if they removed the online membership requirement for online play?
@@Arcademan09 They comment above you!!!! (Sony Shill!)
@@ISGAMINGFORNERDS Please just stop. You do realize you defending this garbage makes you look like a complete fool right?
$700 for a system that has less features out of the box than the base due to no disc drive (costs $80 to get), and don't give me any of that "all games require download/patches" crap cuz its false and they couldn't even include the $30 plastic stand or bundle it with one of the 3 exclusives the system currently has. I probably wasn't gonna upgrade anyway, I stuck with the base ps4 all through its life but that disc drive not being built in means I'm guaranteed to be sticking with the base here too.
Where I live ( EU) the digital version of the PS5 today is 449.99.
Asking someone to pay almost 2 times that is insane. And the minimum wage is 820/month. This are insane prices.
This is the first console generation I've not bought, had a ps1 through to ps4, even when I bought a pc
At this point all you need is a PC and switch to meet all your gaming needs.
This must be their revenge for concord
Luke's got a pretty good Dana Carvey impression.
What it tells me is that there is no PS5 price drop coming
"One game,
I don't why,
I bought a PS5 with no games to buy"
In the enddd
It doesnt even maaatteeeeer
I've been saying this for years.
At some point, game rendering and fidelity will get to a point where you can't tell the difference between the new fancy releases and the games on last gen hardware.
It's the same with higher screen resolutions and frame rates, and I honestly don't know if the PS6 will have much difference to the PS5 Pro, apart from maybe higher frame rates.
This is why I don’t understand modern gaming. Why the hell would I buy a $700 console that slightly improves the visuals that I won’t be able to tell the difference? All this angle checking to see an extra pixel to justify wasting almost a band?
$700 for a minor graphical update is nuts.
For $700 the PS5 Pro should have 7900 XTX Grfx in it
800€ here in Europe is robbery.
I still remember the ps5 box saying 8k if im not mistaken
I’m not sold on a 56 minute video over a 9 minute video.
lol
Its not simply the difference of price between countries/continents.
Its the average wage that is not even close. US average wages are way above the average wage in Europe. Ofc its getting balance by a higher cost of living in US compared to Europe but in the end wasting 700 dollars as an American vs 800 euros as a European outside of some exceptions(Germany, Louxemburg, Netherlands and a few others) is almost close to depositing a full wage, especially if you consider the additional disk slot. Dear lord.
They have to get back the concord money somewhere and now we know from where.
Honestly most of the side by side pictures I could bearly told the difference no way in hell is worth $700
lol, their whole selling point is it "looks a little bit better".. then proceeds to publish adverts on
low bit-rate platforms.. these guys need 'Self-Awareness Training™'
@@Bonk13bwhat’s the point of high bit rate when 90% are watching on their phone
4:50 This is why I don’t get why more people choose fidelity over performance. I can tell the difference between 30 FPS and 60 FPS. I can’t tell the difference when I choose fidelity mode and when I don’t.
I have a friend who claims he only wants to see the best graphics possible. He won't even try performance mode, even though I told him to just try it out. You can't change some people...
"Mark Cerney" is Dana Carvey's best new recurring character he's had in the last 20 years.
In not comfortable with building/tinkering with a lot of things, but you know what makes me learn? This.
I’m going to figure out building a rig. There’s a wealth of info online, and people kind enough to help.
$700 for a proprietary box, with no optical drive, is wild.
The missing stand is a “f you, pay me” move.
Sony is smelling themselves, as they do at least once a generation when their competitor seems to have been erased.
Buy a PC. This is my tipping point.
It's really not that difficult, especially with RUclips. Choosing parts is the hardest part.
@@FlyfishermanMike Thanks!
And I've seen ponies claiming it's going to be on par with 40 series cards, lmao.
That is wild lmao
Lool
Apparently, it will be on par with the 7700xt.
Watch them release a PS5 software update the wrecks the performance of the regular PS5 to boost PS5 PRO sales. Just like apple and Iphone last time
Apple released an update once that made every midi instrument I had obsolete. So I never bought an apple product again.
@@Sagan_Blandard20XX That's infuriating. Meanwhile Samsung sold me a laptop with a defective motherboard that keeps sending twice the load to my speakers and blowing them out, also destroying the soldered on headphone jack. They still want me to pay for them to repair it and them send it back worse off than before, because Samsung always destroys laptops when they "repair" them. I wish I could just switch out the board, but they have everything soldered to it and I'll have to replace all of those, too, which I can't because Samsung doesn't sell their overpriced proprietary parts commercially. And even if they did, it would still cost more than this $3300 laptop + the $1450 of repairs I've already had. Never buy a Samsung laptop. Great phones, garbage laptops. I have $1600 worth of midi instruments sitting unable to be used.
@@PlazDreamweaver oof. I feel ya.
The PS5 Pro!!! You can't afford it so you might as well buy a regular PS5, or a Steam Deck which is cheaper, portable, and can play almost all of the PS5 games that are released on Steam.
People saying they will get this for gta6 to run it above 30fps 😂😂😂😂😂😂guys… it has the same cpu as the ps5…. Better graphics don’t matter when it’s bottlenecked by the same cpu 😂 z
But there are people saying it/who were saying it, so there will be buyers 😂
100% gta 6 not will be 60fps
Ps5 Pro
To counter your point on PCs being "too expensive", $700 is already well on your way to get a good pc, so at that point you just save up for a bit longer and you can have what you need. That's the whole key to that situation, patience. If buying a console as soon as you acquire half of the money for a good pc instead of putting into a savings account, chances are you're not very responsible with money
$700 won't even get you close to a great GPU if you want to build your own PC. However, at $700, I'd rather spend the extra $1000 for a Zephyrus G14 on sale. I can probably get it for even less on Black Friday.
Nvm, I was wrong. A 4070 Super is $100 less than a PS5 Pro without the disk drive or stand 😂💀. An amazing gaming PC costs just barely over a PS5 Pro. And if you want to play online, even less so. You can spend $1500 to get twice the performance of the almost $900 PS5 Pro (almost $900 US with disk drive, stand, and tax). Lmao.
To not inclue the cheap plastic stand the disc drive at that price point is criminal.
This was brutal. Pooping on your current system is insane. The differences are so minuscule in real time. Sony should be embarrassed. Not impressive in the least
Sony literally has no games to justify this price.
Ikr 😂
This thing is too much money, $700 for a console is insane, and when you think about it, the damn thing has a cpu bottle neck, so every game that runs bad because of the cpu won’t run better because the cpu is the damn same
Launch Prices:
PS4 (Nov 2013): $399, €399, £349
PS4 Pro (Nov 2016): $399, €399, £349
PS5 (Nov 2020): $499, €499, £449
PS5 Pro (assumed Nov 2024): $799, €899, £799
Who is in charge of pricing because they really dropped the ball. Exchange rates are completely off to an inexcusable ratio plus the unnecessary and unworthy increase.
1:09
They do that with their hands because they are naturally inclined to make a pointing gesture but their speaking coach told them that pointing makes them look aggressive. So they force themselves to keep the index finger curled while gesturing.
60 fps is always welcomed but with complete honesty!! I still consider solid 30 fps with consistent frame pacing to be a very playable experience. I played Dead Space Remake on my Series S (as it is available on Gamepass) despite having a PS5, and had a great time with it.
Immediately after you asked, “But is it $700 good?” I hear an ad go off like, “I just saved $700 with Liberty Mutual!” I was only listening, so I thought you had memed it in, but after I realized it was an actual ad, I died. I’m dead now.
20:26 is amazing hahah.
If only that had full backwards compatibility with this and a disc drive, then they could justify this price
I’d totally buy the value for full b/c with PSone, PS2, PS3. I’d even go as far as buying an attachment for PSP b/c (UMD reader).
There are people who are still on the fence about buying a PS5. Now Sony wants to push out a Pro version for $700 and doesn't come with a disc drive and side stand?
Another thing about premium consoles vs PC that favors buying a console apart from price and ease is space. A high-end PC setup takes up a lot of space. I live alone in an apartment and my desk and setup is in the space where a normal person (or someone with a partner) would have their TV and a console. My friend who's also a PC gamer but lives with his GF needs to have his PC in a closet because it's the only space it fits without taking up their entire living- or bedroom.
Bruh... 700 for a pro console. And then 4 years later... The ps6 will be... 500?
You really think PS6 will be $500?
@@ssduo5574 lol hell no, I thought maybe before seeing this atrocity. I was being sarcastic with the $500. It's just insane the price of a pro
@@busfare5660 Oh! lmao. The console appeal about to die.
3:54 But my screen IS covered in Vaseline...?
😂 I'm waiting for Sony to tell me to get a 2nd Job.
as they're bragging they're going to take vidgaming out of the "ghetto." Very fine people at SCEA.
5:35 And I bet he wears a beige karate uniform whenever he drinks that tea.
For me I’m getting it for the holiday. And I found a stand that better. It thicker and all white with led lights. 😅
Luke, your Mark CERNy impression is A-mazing. Lol!
20:06 I swear to god when Luke does this, it always gets me 🤣
Here in Australia it’s more like $1,400.00 if you want the console,stand,hard drive wtf !
This Sony guy is a total Dana Carvey character. It's like the love child of John Carmack and The Church Lady.
He looks like I imagined the GayStation embloyers to look like 😉
Mark Cerny looks like he turns into The Lizard to fight Spider-Man
The only way this console would be worth it for me is if it was 600$ and came bundled with GTA6.
So you'll instead play GTA VI at 30fps. Sweet.
@@victory7763what are you on about?
$959.99 in Canada. Good gravy.
Plus, about 200$ for a stand and disk drive.
950 in canada. Im just going to build a PC
They wanna be apple so bad
I bet the ps6 is 1500 usd
@@switchboy2320A $1500 gaming PC will perform twice as well as the PS6 and won't charge you $120 a year to use your own internet, which you already pay for.
We really got DLC for a console before GTA6
@27:48 try the converter between US and Australia - it pushes the price for Aussies to over $1000 and then some.
I used to build my own PC back in the days however I found myself using it less and less because now it's super common to have a fully spec'ed out macbook pro for work and I do everything on it except for gaming. It doesn't make sense for me to keep a separate rig for gaming. So playing games on console just saves so much hassle
In turn, you could get a solid controller adapter for your phone, a GeForce now ultimate account (they use a 4080 gpu for cloud based) and screen cast to your tv for much cheaper and basically using stuff you have.
that’s a very good mark impression
Waiting to see how Elden Ring DLC runs on the ps5 pro. Where is that 4k 60 now PlayStation?
Apparently, people do not understand why Sony decided to price the device at such an exaggerated price. It is trying to prepare the world from now on, so that when their next device is released in 2027, its price will be very close to the current price of the Pro, and perhaps more.
How much is your pc?
I think they were originally planning to feature Concord. But due to circumstances they had to throw something else together and that’s why it’s current and past games . And if people buy and support this and it does well. It sets a precedent for the PS6 to start at 700$ and it’s Pro Version will be 900$ or something crazy
Looks like Sony has hired way too many ex Apple execs.
You betcha 😂
Thank you for saying it Luke by supporting this we’ve accepted “expect more get less” as consumers
I was actually thinking of getting a second PS5. I will probably go the Slim route.
1:07 cracked me up! LMAO
Heres a kicker, here in canada buying digitally on ps store is actually more expensive then just buying physical!! And digital games are still taxed!!
I think they do that thing with their hands because they are used to do a lot of presentation and they use remote or laser pointer or something.
When has a pro version of a console ever been worth buying, I don’t understand why they even make them
Yup, and 60 fps was supposed to be standard.
@@susanna8612 yea like on console all games are designed to run at a certain graphical quality and fps so having stronger hardware does basically nothing other than improved load times and perhaps smoother gameplay on larger games
It funny because the stand doesn’t come with the slim also. 😂😂
CPU should have been the upgrade, that’s where the bottleneck is
Looks like Garth grew up, cut his hair, and now is the head of Playstation. Excellllent!
I don't mean to be a doofus, but why do I really care about density of foliage?
This generation has been quite disappointing and pathetic. We're 4 years in and companies are still focusing primarily on hardware instead of delivering unique software designed for current technology. There are way too many cross generation games made with last generation tech (Unreal Engine 4 for instance), remasters and remakes. The fact that the PS5 Pro doesn't have an optical drive makes the original PS5 model the best Sony console this generation because it's the only one that reads discs without having to connect to the internet.
I was always shouting to hills "consoles playing games at 4k and 60fps is basically a lie" way back when this shit came out the first time. People are dum
Every single game could play 4k and 60fps. If they were made with that in mind. They aren’t.
Salaries are different in EU, GB and Japan (usually lower than in the US I guess, at least for me). Japan rarely has real salary increases and is struggling under having inflations hit it more than ever. I can't imagine spending 140000yen for ps5 pro and disk. They just increased the regular version by 20%. It is an insane price tag.
I think they were originally planning to feature Concord. But due to circumstances they had to throw something else together and that’s why it’s current and past games
That Mark Cerny impression was amazing! 😂😂😂
Whenever i hear the big 3 i always think of the 3 entities that stand in the way of the little guy
I'm not sure what to do yet. I'm in the UK, I've got till later this month to make my mind up, as I wanted to pre order it. 🤔🤷🏻♂️
Just image if they also said in asterisk, that it wasn’t region free. That would definitely be a HUGE step backwards
“Well go to the Beach and think about it” 💀😂
It's almost $30 for the stand... In my country that is around 3-6 hours of work.
You don't need a vertical stand. No one does.
@@SIPEROTH I have 4 consoles of older generations. All of them stand vertically because of the space constraints. Would not be able to have and use the consoles without the stands.
@@WinterWerewolf I don't know what consoles you have vertically to comment on. What i do know is that the PS5 stands just fine vertically without a stand.
I have it next to my TV i didn't even bother putting a stand because it didn't seem to need it.
Is absolutely solid and stands just fine.
Not only that but without the stand you save space because you can put something else very close next to it without the stand circle getting in the way.
Millions of people have their PS5 vertically without a stand and is just fine.
I have no idea why you feel is necessary.