SEDUCTIVE SINGING - Ravel's Ondine - Analysis Part 2/2: Harmony

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  • Опубликовано: 31 июл 2024
  • Maurice Ravel paints a wonderful scene in music after Aloysius Bertrands poem with the same name: Ondine from Gaspard de la nuit. The siren Ondine sings to seduce a young man. Can he resist? In this part 2 we look at the harmony, gestures and how everything fits together on the musical surface.
    0:00 Intro
    0:14 Start 1
    4:31 Episode
    7:34 Start 2
    9:33 Start 3
    12:45 Build-up
    16:56 Climax
    19:25 Glissandos!
    22:40 Coda
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    Henrik Kilhamn, piano
    📄 Maurice Ravel: Ondine from Gaspard de la nuit (1908). Score: Durand & Fils, 1909, imslp.org.
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  • @theoboueid4744
    @theoboueid4744 3 года назад +35

    This is the most complete analysis I've ever seen on your channel so far. Ik it's not as relevant but your playing is very good too. The amount of effort that must've been put into such perfect explanations has to be godlike. Thank you so much for making this amazing video.

    • @SonataSecrets
      @SonataSecrets  3 года назад +8

      Thank you! Yeah, this took some work... :)

  • @sirchoppy1810
    @sirchoppy1810 3 года назад +13

    I heard this piece when i was a kid, and my dad practiced this a lot. Then, when I got bacc into music and piano, I heard this again, and i recognized it........still as beautiful and mysterious as it was when i first heard it!
    EDIT: 12:56 poor guy... those thirds are like.....really weerd

  • @alexs1504
    @alexs1504 3 года назад +14

    This piece is to me the most beautiful thing I've ever heard in my life, I guess I couldn't resist...

  • @lucas__machado
    @lucas__machado 3 года назад +11

    This upright sound is absolutely magnificent

  • @moresquatsmoretwats6298
    @moresquatsmoretwats6298 3 года назад +7

    Thank you so much Henrik !!!! This was great!

  • @mischacarlberg6631
    @mischacarlberg6631 2 года назад +2

    You forgot to mention one of the coolest things about the climax: the chords in between the Bm, Gm and D#m. He has put the dominant for every chord change in between, which was something that took forever for me to notice, but it really makes such a difference. So it's meant to be Bm, D7, Gm, A#7, D#m, and then the chords you wrote. Definitely one of my favourite chord progressions of all time

  • @randomchannel-px6ho
    @randomchannel-px6ho 3 года назад +21

    Fun fact: The Harmony of the "climax" is a minor version of the first few bars of giant steps.
    Ondine: Bm D7 Gm A#7 D#m F#7
    Giant steps: B D7 G Bb7 Eb
    The melody's even land on the same tension of G natural over the Bb7/A#7 (the 13th)
    I just find this super interesting for some reason

    • @gustavmadsen8971
      @gustavmadsen8971 3 года назад +1

      I literally never realized this until now, but now i cant stop hearing it lol. I find it so ingenious how the upper minor triads are just transposing a whole step down every beat, while the bass moves along the pattern you mentioned. Like it goes from Bm to Am, but because the bass goes down to D, the Am becomes the extension of a D7, which then leads to Gm where it repeats.

    • @gemmahudack6182
      @gemmahudack6182 3 года назад +2

      coltrane changes before coltrane lol

    • @christophernorman8127
      @christophernorman8127 Год назад

      Yes .I noticed that .

    • @christophernorman8127
      @christophernorman8127 Год назад

      I think the pedal has to be all the way through at the end of the penultimate page. The Tres lent solo melody

    • @dominikclarke6545
      @dominikclarke6545 Месяц назад

      ruclips.net/video/Q42SfdZoIFk/видео.html

  • @8413Lucas
    @8413Lucas 3 года назад +2

    Probably one of my favourite pieces by Ravel, thank you for this great analysis! And yes, I agree, the climax of Ondine is just insane!

  • @marie-louiseericsson9252
    @marie-louiseericsson9252 2 года назад

    Verkligen strålande instudering, Henrik! Du är grym. Stort Tack!

  • @mohhingman
    @mohhingman 3 года назад

    love love love this. I love Ravel's music so much, analysing each part is unbelievably joyous. Thank you for making this. Your other videos are super interesting and you explain the technical and well as artistic elements. Just wonderful.

  • @AnaPaula-np5rq
    @AnaPaula-np5rq 3 года назад +1

    Sympatisk, omtänksam, hängiven, kreativ, karismatisk och utmärkt pianist. 👏🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷🌷

  • @Hailey_Paige_1937
    @Hailey_Paige_1937 3 года назад +10

    This is absolutely amazing! You said the piano is like an orchestral instrument. I completely agree, and Ravel did as well. He often orchestrated his piano works later on. Do you know if he orchestrated anything from “Gaspsrd da la Nuit”? I can never find anything.

    • @emielgeerts
      @emielgeerts 3 года назад +1

      He didn’t do that because he thought it wouldn’t sound nearly as nice as an orchestral piece, but Constant did an orchestration on it. I prefer the original though. Here is an absolutely splendid performance (my favourite): ruclips.net/video/TQSyRXRuk6Y/видео.html

    • @Hailey_Paige_1937
      @Hailey_Paige_1937 3 года назад

      @@emielgeerts
      Thank you!! ☺️

    • @sirchoppy1810
      @sirchoppy1810 3 года назад +1

      ikr!

  • @moniquethurston4109
    @moniquethurston4109 3 года назад +1

    Impressions....indeed , a lot of them ! Thank you Henrik

  • @gustavmadsen8971
    @gustavmadsen8971 3 года назад +3

    It is so surprising to me how romantic the harmony in this piece actually is; like sure it is primarily in a mixolydian b6 sorta key, but like the amount of times the chords move by fifths is actually quite insane. How have i never noticed the transition at 2:46 is just the classic V - I?? I suspect Ravel makes us read all these sharps just so people don't find out his harmonies are just II - V - I's in disguise lol.

  • @maleficfig68
    @maleficfig68 3 года назад +1

    Thank you so much for this! This has always been one of those piano pieces that keep me going with practicing cause I just want to be able to play it so badly

  • @drewlitton3843
    @drewlitton3843 3 года назад

    Can we all agree that this video is the most informative flex ever lmao…beautiful playing and wonderful piece!

  • @chriscamp6971
    @chriscamp6971 3 года назад

    Amazing video! Love this piece of music

  • @mikebrun.mp3
    @mikebrun.mp3 Год назад

    what an incredible resource, thank you!

  • @christophernorman8127
    @christophernorman8127 Год назад +1

    Thanks for this .Cracking video!!

  • @Poeme340
    @Poeme340 3 года назад

    Another great video about another exquisite piece-thx!!

  • @barthiemstra5259
    @barthiemstra5259 3 года назад +2

    Amazing analysis! I've subscribed, on the condition that you'll eventually do one of Scarbo ;)

  • @brendanward2991
    @brendanward2991 3 года назад +1

    What a haunting piece. Henrik makes it look easy.

  • @jessieborrell1856
    @jessieborrell1856 3 года назад

    What a beautiful and interesting piece of music!

  • @levimatheri7682
    @levimatheri7682 2 года назад

    Amazing! I'm sure a lot of work went into this

  • @sylvainleray5051
    @sylvainleray5051 7 месяцев назад

    Great playing, and nice work on your channel!!
    The very beginning is really sounding like a C#9(b6) to me, and we got the whole mode from F# melodic minor! We can also hear it as a B7 #11 going to this kind of Bb7/D! Truly amazing

  • @marianoiqq
    @marianoiqq 2 года назад +2

    i think the harmony at the climax should be Bm9 - D9(13) - Gm9 - Bb9(13) - D#m9 - F#7(b9,13) , and I think it is one of the most interesting parts of this work, because it has a cycle of descending thirds, similar to the work giants steps by john coltrane

  • @nerrdinho
    @nerrdinho 3 года назад +2

    Hi Henrik, could you please do an analysis on Chopin’s Nocturne Op. 55 no 2 this is such a beautiful and would love to hear your insight on it!

    • @SonataSecrets
      @SonataSecrets  2 года назад

      Analysis on Chopin Nocturne Op. 55 no. 2 is out now! ruclips.net/video/tc69rTem_qo/видео.html

    • @nerrdinho
      @nerrdinho 2 года назад

      @@SonataSecrets THANK YOU!

  • @margarethansen7480
    @margarethansen7480 5 месяцев назад

    👏👏👏

  • @christophernorman8127
    @christophernorman8127 Год назад +1

    Funny you saying the F minor section of the climax section ( thirds and fourths)is easier than the C sharp minor section before it. I find the opposite. The ‘circular” action flows more naturally.

  • @christophernorman8127
    @christophernorman8127 Год назад

    Any chance of a similar video for Scarbo? 🙁🙂🙏🙏🙏

    • @SonataSecrets
      @SonataSecrets  Год назад

      Hehe everybody asks, the answer is always maybe some time in the future...

  • @drdandan6128
    @drdandan6128 2 года назад

    7:00 what is X?

    • @benhouhousmail6563
      @benhouhousmail6563 Год назад

      For my point of view, at 6:54 you have D#9/11-> A13 ->C13 and then at 7:00 D#9/11 -> A13 -> C7b9 Ravel wants a harmonic variation by exchangig the C13 by C7/b9