It will come down to which club works best for you. So get fitted. I got fitted for ping g425, not the furthest but it finds fairway super consistently. And that really what matters to me. Straight and true.
Interesting review, thanks guys. You make good content. I would like to see the dispersion map for each of these clubs. Does the implied forgiveness work for the standard clubs over the LS versions? How much draw bias do you actually get? Is it really work upgrading from my 5 year old club? Or at what age club do you really see the benefits of the new technology when you upgrade?
Thanks for the feedback Paul, really appreciate you taking the time. Within the industry it's sort of accepted the life expectancy of a driver has risen to about 5 years. The answer really is to give a new model a try against your current gamer. Until you feel there's a difference that's worth paying for, a switch probably isn't going to be on the cards. We don't often show dispersion numbers on our reviews Paul, the reason being they are only relevant on the day they're created and usually are very different when you come back and test on any future days. However in our Best 2022 Driver video we will look at drop-offs between Neil's longest and shortest hits, to see how good a driver is at protecting the ball speed and carry distance created. Hope that helps.
Excellent work lads! Stealth is interesting concept (aka marketing lol) but as long as CT and COR are still being regulated it’s hard to see any significant gains. The red face is going to take some getting used to and I’m not willing to pony up $699 usd to customize that color to black lol. Something else I read that was interesting is that because the carbon face is so strong it prevents CT creep which apparently is what happens when you’ve hit a metal wood repeatedly the CT can exceed the USGA limit because of the wear on the face. Not sure how much that affects distance but golfers are a funny bunch especially when it comes to their drivers. I seem to recall Vijay Singh was accused of taking a belt sander to the face of his drivers to thin them out and increase COR and CT lol
Interesting comparison. Indeed agree needs to be used and hot out on the course and having a good fitting and choice of shaft too is equally key. My current driver which I went to from the m2 is the pxg proto x+ 12 degree set at 11 (as I never slice but sometimes pull so opening the face vs a draw driver is better for me). Also went to a 44.75” riptide cb shaft - only downside is lost 30 yds or carry. Upside hit 9-% of fairways now. Makes for a challenging second shot at my time of life so if I can find something that gains me back at least 15-20 yds of carry with consistency of tight dispersion would look at it. Maybe between the stealth and the rouge st max -f one can find the right length and shaft - maybe worth exploring. Though as a leftie not always easy to find options. I see for example the stealth in left hand does not come in a 12 degrees to possibly mirror my proto x+. As every other club in my bag works very well this is the one I need to address and fix to regularly keep my score tight and low. Onwards and upwards.
The test has been completed LJ you can view the results on our website link below. We're shooting video on the test over the next couple of weeks. www.todaysgolfer.co.uk/equipment/best/drivers/
Thanks for all your hard work doing the comparisons Guys, but my take on all the numbers is that neither of the two new driver ranges competes/betters Neil's two model old PING G400 PLUS. I would be interested to see if you do H2H comparisons with the new drivers and the previous offering. My suspicion is that we will not see any significant performance gains. PS You need to be careful with TM's statements regarding the lighter face and the "efficiency" of the "transfer of energy", (in Material Science terms that has a very specific meaning) and does not mean that the face will produce longer drives. Whatever the face material & its weight the performance will still be limited by the USGA and R&A Performance regulations.
Awesome guys, great to see you guys again, Neil unbelievable swing ,love it as always, you guys do an outstanding job in any product you review ,, I really take what you guys say seriously,so thank you for that!! I game the Cobra F9 heavy weight up front with the purple Oban shaft, hard to give up !! The only club I've ever been fitted for and when I got fitted I said what F,,, did I just do lol, but its the best club in my bag 3 maybe 4 models ago, one more thing 44 1/2 inches on length much better center strikes , can't believe the difference!!
Considering Ping is not going to release a new driver this year, do you think the price for G245 driver might go down during this year before new model coming in 2023..?
@@akselnielsen4231 Like wise Aksel we don't yet have a sample. And to be honest, Neil often doesn't feel he's the best fit for lower spinning drivers. We'll see when samples arrive.
Great review guys as ever and as far as I am aware 1st to compare the new big guns I game Sim2MaxD woods and DCB irons so am not biased one way or other They both work brilliantly for me Very interested in slight draw bias on Rogue ST though and will do a back to back with current gamer
It's because this video was shot before Christmas Ed, when other samples weren't available. We have just completed our 2022 driver test, the results are on the link below, we'll be shooting video on the full test over the new few weeks. www.todaysgolfer.co.uk/equipment/best/drivers/
It is interesting to see most of these reviewers are not impressed with the new Taylormade or Callaway. I wonder what would happen if a manufacturer kept the same clubs for years because nothing is better. Some of the best selling clubs were ones that stayed on the market for years.
Great video. This is my first RUclips comment ever. I could not help but feel a taylormade bias in this whole video. I’m a Taylormade gym myself play the p790’s and had the R11 for ten years. I couldn’t help but notice the numbers seem to point towards the rogue being the best in all categories but really no mention of that. Did I miss something? I just got fitted and tried ever driver and shaft combo they had. I’m watching videos to see if my results are typical with other tests. I personally hit the Rogue ST Max the best. This will be the only non taylormade in my bag. I’m just hoping I made the right decision.
Thanks for the feedback Billy, appreciate you taking the time. The beauty of showing the data is you're more than welcome to come to your own conclusion. As somebody once told us - stats and data are facts, until they're interpreted when they become opinion. Quite glad you raise the 'bias question'. Only last year we were accused of a Callaway bias, because the Epic Speed was our fastest and longest driver and we used a Callaway Golf ball. #cantwinthemall
The Rogue Max LS having MORE spin than the regular Max doesn't make sense, probably need a stiffer shaft on the Max LS and it would definitely perform better. Would've been nice to see the dispersion differences.
Neil's slightly downward attack angle quite often means low spin drivers actually spin more. Basically the heads not being delivered in the way it's been designed too, so it reacts differently at impact than expected. You can see shot area for each of the drivers within our Best 2022 Driver video here bit.ly/3KY3XRc
I'm going to test stealth plus but there's no way I think it'll replace my g425 lst or g410 plus... normal courses I play g425 lst... really tight courses I play g410 plus
Just tested Stealth Vs stealth + vs Rogue ST vs TSi3 vs 425LST vs Cobra Vs Mizuno. Rogue easily the longest. Ping easily the straightest and most consistent. The Stealth was a spin machine. Bought a 425LST with a Kai'li shaft.
Are you guys partnered with Taylor made? The normal rogue beat the normal stealth in every category so you went to looks and still tried to make the stealth look better? No disrespect but it just seemed kind of odd
TM Stealth looks horrendous, like an edgy-kids plastic club from Decathlon with these ugly red stripes and face. And they call it "stealth" - what a joke. Doesn't perform any better than last years model but selling it for 500 quid because of their new marketing gag - carbon face. Lol. Tayloremade lost their minds.
The G425 Max is a benchmark Rob. Not sure why you think it came last in 2021? It certainly wasn't according to our numbers, in fact it had the best drop-off of any driver we hit.
@@robh316 Sorry our bad. We'd read your comment as the G425 was our last placed driver last year. Correct the G425 did come out in 2021, it's also staying around for this year, and is generally accepted as a very good driver, hence why we used it as a benchmark in this test.
of all of the review's that i've seen on callaway rouge st drivers from lot's of u tuber's WHY DON'T ANYBODY MENTION THE 2 SMALLER WEIGHT'S INSIDE THE GOLD ONE
I must be getting old and more cynical. The newest, the latest, the most expensive. All true statements. Longer, straighter, more consistent,,,, er, no. A yard here a yard there at best. Can’t wait to see the marketing lies (sorry, of course I meant statistics) for these new clubs. I’ve added up all the new driver claims a certain manufacturer has made over the last 15 years, apparently I should now be 71 yard’s longer, must be that I’m just getting older.
You're entitled to your opinion Paul. It's quite simple for a lot of golfers in reality, if we don't need a new driver we don't buy one. If we do need one then we want to know how the leading models compare. That's where we step in.
@@todaysgolfer I absolutely agree, I did the same 3 or 4 years ago, need a new driver so bought a new last years model. My gripe with the manufacturers is the diatribe of crap and largely false advertising claims made. Great review by the way.
Hear hear! I’m using Mizuno mp60s and even had a square driver until last year and I still won club comps. Only thing I do is to have my clubs checked for lie and loft every few years. I spend my money on lessons when things go a bit wonky and thats it. Club tech meh.
If you are going to pump Taylormade just do it from the start and admit it. "Really exciting" numbers look very comparable to me. I play Taylormade, but this video seemed unfortunately biased. Hide your favoritism a bit better. Looks like the PING 410 is the non-biased winner.
Changing paint colour?! How about changing your swing to the better and then use the driver that suits YOU best. There's nothing between these...nor has there been for years. And £500 for a driver for average golfer? ...c'mon not real.
Interesting however I fast forward several times 5 minutes in your still talking about carbon fiber on taylormade... Bejesus. We get it. Get to the testing faster rather than a 8 minute stealth infomercial about carbon
It amazes me that people still buy into TaylorMade's bullsh*t marketing and advertising. If we gained the extra distance that they claim their new driver provides (a new one comes out every year and has been for many years), we'd all be hitting 400+ yards with ease. What a joke. Instead of worrying about distance, learn how to hit the ball straight and make good consistent contact. Your short game matters more than distance anyways. Doesn't matter if you can hit bombs if you can't get up and down for birdie/par.
Taylormades new Nike Vapour Driver sure performs like a normal driver. Good job R&D for 20yrs of nothing but waiting for the technology to make thinner carbon fiber layering to produce a Driver that doesn't outperform anything. Go away Taylormade.
We are maxed out on center hit performance. I need to see a large data set that shows the dispersion circle comparison to see if the extra discretionary weight that was moved away from the face helps with stability and consistency on off center strikes.
They saved 20 grams of weight in the face. That’s not nothing, that’s huge. People need to stop expecting longer best shot distance. Gold is all about managing misses.
The provided technical information content may be correct, but my attention span is limited by the presentation quality provided by the plastic Muppets. Could each be excellent written form journalists or performance oriented golfer respectively, but in terms of video competences, the term plastic Muppets comes to the fore for me.
I think you're analysis is excellent, but this is 2022 - perhaps not talking about "the guy that does this, the guy that does that" should be considered as golf is a unisex sport. Can't we just refer to them as "the golfer..."?
Thanks for the feedback and spotting Ludwig, we'll strive to use 'the golfer' in the future. Probably worth just pointing out, RUclips reckons our audience is 97.2% male, so hopefully not too many people have been offended.
Just played with the TM Stealth for the first time today. Let me tell ya,,,it’s an AMAZING driver! I highly recommend it!
Thanks for your input.
Thanks guys for a very interesting and comprehensive test. Keep up the good work.
Thanks for taking the time to feedback John, appreciate it.
Good that you add additional information that others are not providing
Thanks for spotting Paul, appreciate you feeding back.
It will come down to which club works best for you. So get fitted. I got fitted for ping g425, not the furthest but it finds fairway super consistently. And that really what matters to me. Straight and true.
Nicely said DWMT.
How did the dispersion compare between the stealth, rogue and G425?
Happy New Year Guys! Wonderful review (as usual). Stay healthy, Bob
Thanks Bob, Happy New Year to you too. Have a good one.
Would have been nice if the Titleist TSi range were included in this, as they are going to be continued through the 2022 season.
Interesting review, thanks guys. You make good content. I would like to see the dispersion map for each of these clubs. Does the implied forgiveness work for the standard clubs over the LS versions? How much draw bias do you actually get? Is it really work upgrading from my 5 year old club? Or at what age club do you really see the benefits of the new technology when you upgrade?
Thanks for the feedback Paul, really appreciate you taking the time. Within the industry it's sort of accepted the life expectancy of a driver has risen to about 5 years. The answer really is to give a new model a try against your current gamer.
Until you feel there's a difference that's worth paying for, a switch probably isn't going to be on the cards.
We don't often show dispersion numbers on our reviews Paul, the reason being they are only relevant on the day they're created and usually are very different when you come back and test on any future days. However in our Best 2022 Driver video we will look at drop-offs between Neil's longest and shortest hits, to see how good a driver is at protecting the ball speed and carry distance created.
Hope that helps.
Excellent work lads!
Stealth is interesting concept (aka marketing lol) but as long as CT and COR are still being regulated it’s hard to see any significant gains. The red face is going to take some getting used to and I’m not willing to pony up $699 usd to customize that color to black lol.
Something else I read that was interesting is that because the carbon face is so strong it prevents CT creep which apparently is what happens when you’ve hit a metal wood repeatedly the CT can exceed the USGA limit because of the wear on the face. Not sure how much that affects distance but golfers are a funny bunch especially when it comes to their drivers. I seem to recall Vijay Singh was accused of taking a belt sander to the face of his drivers to thin them out and increase COR and CT lol
Thanks LE GEND, correct on the no CT creep. Xander Schauffele was picked up on his driver being too hot at the 2019 Open Championship.
Interesting comparison. Indeed agree needs to be used and hot out on the course and having a good fitting and choice of shaft too is equally key. My current driver which I went to from the m2 is the pxg proto x+ 12 degree set at 11 (as I never slice but sometimes pull so opening the face vs a draw driver is better for me). Also went to a 44.75” riptide cb shaft - only downside is lost 30 yds or carry. Upside hit 9-% of fairways now. Makes for a challenging second shot at my time of life so if I can find something that gains me back at least 15-20 yds of carry with consistency of tight dispersion would look at it. Maybe between the stealth and the rouge st max -f one can find the right length and shaft - maybe worth exploring. Though as a leftie not always easy to find options. I see for example the stealth in left hand does not come in a 12 degrees to possibly mirror my proto x+. As every other club in my bag works very well this is the one I need to address and fix to regularly keep my score tight and low. Onwards and upwards.
Thanks for the input Aly, agreed left hand options can be tough to find and try. Good luck with the search.
Hi guys, did you use the same shafts and swingweight on de different drivers ? Thank you
Hi TG! Can I ask when r u going to release 2022 all club review result~?
The test has been completed LJ you can view the results on our website link below.
We're shooting video on the test over the next couple of weeks.
www.todaysgolfer.co.uk/equipment/best/drivers/
@@todaysgolfer Thank you very much TG!
Thanks for all your hard work doing the comparisons Guys, but my take on all the numbers is that neither of the two new driver ranges competes/betters Neil's two model old PING G400 PLUS.
I would be interested to see if you do H2H comparisons with the new drivers and the previous offering. My suspicion is that we will not see any significant performance gains.
PS You need to be careful with TM's statements regarding the lighter face and the "efficiency" of the "transfer of energy", (in Material Science terms that has a very specific meaning) and does not mean that the face will produce longer drives. Whatever the face material & its weight the performance will still be limited by the USGA and R&A Performance regulations.
Awesome guys, great to see you guys again, Neil unbelievable swing ,love it as always, you guys do an outstanding job in any product you review ,, I really take what you guys say seriously,so thank you for that!! I game the Cobra F9 heavy weight up front with the purple Oban shaft, hard to give up !! The only club I've ever been fitted for and when I got fitted I said what F,,, did I just do lol, but its the best club in my bag 3 maybe 4 models ago, one more thing 44 1/2 inches on length much better center strikes , can't believe the difference!!
Thanks for the feedback and input Kevin. The F9 was a really good driver, completely understand why you'd want to keep hold of it.
YONEX did carbonwoods multiple decades ago. Nice marketeering, TaylorMade.
Considering Ping is not going to release a new driver this year, do you think the price for G245 driver might go down during this year before new model coming in 2023..?
Great coverage as usual Gents!!
Thanks Todd, appreciate it.
Look on these two as double glazing salesmen.
Would like to have seen Neil's Callaway TD numbers! I bet he does really well with it, with his downward angle of attack!
If you mean the Rogue ST Max D, we don't yet have a test sample.
@@todaysgolfer TD = Triple Diamond i think
@@akselnielsen4231 Like wise Aksel we don't yet have a sample. And to be honest, Neil often doesn't feel he's the best fit for lower spinning drivers. We'll see when samples arrive.
MSRP for the Stealth is $599 USD, so I am keeping my $250 SIM(1)
Feels like the gains are there for the pros with Stealth, but not really for the majority. For £500 anyway…
The driver doesn't know who's swinging it. lol
@@ironmaiden5584 never said it did, might work wonders for your game!
Great review guys as ever and as far as I am aware 1st to compare the new big guns I game Sim2MaxD woods and DCB irons so am not biased one way or other They both work brilliantly for me Very interested in slight draw bias on Rogue ST though and will do a back to back with current gamer
The report is interesting. The reality though is that these are just bells and whistles. The tech has reached its max years ago.
Spot on, it's all fancy design and marketing baloney now.
Why is the new Cleveland Launcher XL not being compared with other drivers? It is always and only the Stealth,Rogue, Cobra or Ping ??????
It's because this video was shot before Christmas Ed, when other samples weren't available.
We have just completed our 2022 driver test, the results are on the link below, we'll be shooting video on the full test over the new few weeks.
www.todaysgolfer.co.uk/equipment/best/drivers/
It is interesting to see most of these reviewers are not impressed with the new Taylormade or Callaway. I wonder what would happen if a manufacturer kept the same clubs for years because nothing is better. Some of the best selling clubs were ones that stayed on the market for years.
Great video. This is my first RUclips comment ever. I could not help but feel a taylormade bias in this whole video. I’m a Taylormade gym myself play the p790’s and had the R11 for ten years. I couldn’t help but notice the numbers seem to point towards the rogue being the best in all categories but really no mention of that. Did I miss something? I just got fitted and tried ever driver and shaft combo they had. I’m watching videos to see if my results are typical with other tests. I personally hit the Rogue ST Max the best. This will be the only non taylormade in my bag. I’m just hoping I made the right decision.
Thanks for the feedback Billy, appreciate you taking the time. The beauty of showing the data is you're more than welcome to come to your own conclusion. As somebody once told us - stats and data are facts, until they're interpreted when they become opinion.
Quite glad you raise the 'bias question'. Only last year we were accused of a Callaway bias, because the Epic Speed was our fastest and longest driver and we used a Callaway Golf ball. #cantwinthemall
When can we test these at keele,in the market for some new woods....👌
So what model offers the most forgiveness in terms of fairway finding?
The Rogue Max LS having MORE spin than the regular Max doesn't make sense, probably need a stiffer shaft on the Max LS and it would definitely perform better. Would've been nice to see the dispersion differences.
Neil's slightly downward attack angle quite often means low spin drivers actually spin more. Basically the heads not being delivered in the way it's been designed too, so it reacts differently at impact than expected.
You can see shot area for each of the drivers within our Best 2022 Driver video here bit.ly/3KY3XRc
John Letters did a carbon fibre faced driver over 25 years ago - The Chieftain.
Standard deviation on total difference?
I'm going to test stealth plus but there's no way I think it'll replace my g425 lst or g410 plus... normal courses I play g425 lst... really tight courses I play g410 plus
I want to the comparison between these drives vs drivers from 10 years ago.
Every year....."blown away"
When will the Best Players' Irons 2022 be available? :)
We're testing right now, we're hoping to have a video ready for very early March.
Snake oil at its finest. Put the stealth up against an m2 from 4 year's ago and see if it's worth 400 quid more you would have to pay for it.
Is the Taylormade Stealth hosel adjustment (attachment) the same as the Sim and Sim2? Thank you for the review.
Yes it is Mike.
Just tested Stealth Vs stealth + vs Rogue ST vs TSi3 vs 425LST vs Cobra Vs Mizuno. Rogue easily the longest. Ping easily the straightest and most consistent. The Stealth was a spin machine. Bought a 425LST with a Kai'li shaft.
Thanks for your input Austin, appreciate you taking the time.
Still hitting my ping I20 strait and 285 yrds
great review, University grade
Thanks GT.
I'll wait for the new Tsi release in 2023..
Time will tell if the carbon face will hold up? I am not convinced.
Are you guys partnered with Taylor made? The normal rogue beat the normal stealth in every category so you went to looks and still tried to make the stealth look better? No disrespect but it just seemed kind of odd
Not at all Michael, we just report on the numbers, whichever way they fall.
They're also there for anyone to pull their own bones out of too.
TM Stealth looks horrendous, like an edgy-kids plastic club from Decathlon with these ugly red stripes and face. And they call it "stealth" - what a joke. Doesn't perform any better than last years model but selling it for 500 quid because of their new marketing gag - carbon face. Lol. Tayloremade lost their minds.
why is the ping g425 in there it came out last year
The G425 Max is a benchmark Rob.
Not sure why you think it came last in 2021? It certainly wasn't according to our numbers, in fact it had the best drop-off of any driver we hit.
@@todaysgolfer erm it was out last year was that driver g425 . Rick and finch had it in there bag last year
@@robh316 Sorry our bad. We'd read your comment as the G425 was our last placed driver last year. Correct the G425 did come out in 2021, it's also staying around for this year, and is generally accepted as a very good driver, hence why we used it as a benchmark in this test.
@@todaysgolfer OK cool
of all of the review's that i've seen on callaway rouge st drivers from lot's of u tuber's WHY DON'T ANYBODY MENTION THE 2 SMALLER WEIGHT'S INSIDE THE GOLD ONE
167mph is excellent
I must be getting old and more cynical. The newest, the latest, the most expensive. All true statements. Longer, straighter, more consistent,,,, er, no. A yard here a yard there at best. Can’t wait to see the marketing lies (sorry, of course I meant statistics) for these new clubs. I’ve added up all the new driver claims a certain manufacturer has made over the last 15 years, apparently I should now be 71 yard’s longer, must be that I’m just getting older.
You're entitled to your opinion Paul.
It's quite simple for a lot of golfers in reality, if we don't need a new driver we don't buy one. If we do need one then we want to know how the leading models compare. That's where we step in.
@@todaysgolfer I absolutely agree, I did the same 3 or 4 years ago, need a new driver so bought a new last years model. My gripe with the manufacturers is the diatribe of crap and largely false advertising claims made. Great review by the way.
Hear hear! I’m using Mizuno mp60s and even had a square driver until last year and I still won club comps. Only thing I do is to have my clubs checked for lie and loft every few years. I spend my money on lessons when things go a bit wonky and thats it. Club tech meh.
Spot on, the marketing budget is far bigger than product developement costs.
@Today's Golfer I feel like you guys are paid sponsors. It's hard to trust anyone who doesn't show their swing data.
Don’t think I want to be seen with the Eye of Sauron on a stick unless I can hit it like the Dark Lord himself. Hideous.
LMAO
Rogue st 4-8 yards longer than stealth
If you are going to pump Taylormade just do it from the start and admit it. "Really exciting" numbers look very comparable to me. I play Taylormade, but this video seemed unfortunately biased. Hide your favoritism a bit better. Looks like the PING 410 is the non-biased winner.
Thinking, there is no benefit🤷🏻♂️
Over the last 10 years....
No, you're not 5 yards longer, every year😉
CAN YOU TURN THE MUSIC DOWN PLEASE???? I turn it up to hear you talk and then have to quickly hit the mute button when the "music" starts. Annoying.
Changing paint colour?! How about changing your swing to the better and then use the driver that suits YOU best. There's nothing between these...nor has there been for years. And £500 for a driver for average golfer? ...c'mon not real.
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Interesting however I fast forward several times 5 minutes in your still talking about carbon fiber on taylormade... Bejesus. We get it. Get to the testing faster rather than a 8 minute stealth infomercial about carbon
Not sure if you're aware, there's timestamps in the video so you can jump to the point of the video you want to hear about.
Its about selling golf clubs. The golfing equivalent of double glazing salesmen.
"STEALTH" !!! It looks like a 3 year old designed it.
It amazes me that people still buy into TaylorMade's bullsh*t marketing and advertising. If we gained the extra distance that they claim their new driver provides (a new one comes out every year and has been for many years), we'd all be hitting 400+ yards with ease. What a joke.
Instead of worrying about distance, learn how to hit the ball straight and make good consistent contact. Your short game matters more than distance anyways. Doesn't matter if you can hit bombs if you can't get up and down for birdie/par.
Taylormades new Nike Vapour Driver sure performs like a normal driver. Good job R&D for 20yrs of nothing but waiting for the technology to make thinner carbon fiber layering to produce a Driver that doesn't outperform anything. Go away Taylormade.
We are maxed out on center hit performance. I need to see a large data set that shows the dispersion circle comparison to see if the extra discretionary weight that was moved away from the face helps with stability and consistency on off center strikes.
They saved 20 grams of weight in the face. That’s not nothing, that’s huge. People need to stop expecting longer best shot distance. Gold is all about managing misses.
The provided technical information content may be correct, but my attention span is limited by the presentation quality provided by the plastic Muppets. Could each be excellent written form journalists or performance oriented golfer respectively, but in terms of video competences, the term plastic Muppets comes to the fore for me.
Sadly, yet another video trying to 'justify' this new tech and driver. Emperors New Clothes syndrome.
I think you're analysis is excellent, but this is 2022 - perhaps not talking about "the guy that does this, the guy that does that" should be considered as golf is a unisex sport. Can't we just refer to them as "the golfer..."?
Please, take that woke shit somewhere else.
Thanks for the feedback and spotting Ludwig, we'll strive to use 'the golfer' in the future.
Probably worth just pointing out, RUclips reckons our audience is 97.2% male, so hopefully not too many people have been offended.
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