Its because justice had beam saber everywhere. on his leg, beam bomerrang at his shield , beam bomerang at his shoulder , 2x beam javeline, beam sword at his back pack and also at each wings had beam sword . Invinite justice design to be a close combat unit
Ironically enough while Rey was seemingly immune to Athrun's BS, Rey was actually much more vulnerable to Kira's BS and got instantly distracted by his "nemesis" of all dudes, costing him a battle.
5:07 - _[Angry DIO noises]_ 8:25 - Domon and company flip to Terminal. 11:10 - A Game of Drones. 13:36 - Yup, Zack’s _pissed._ 15:28 - Damn, that breakup was pretty bad for The Red Comet. 17:50 - Oof, Lacus on SEED. 20:37 - One can never bring back the past, especially at the expense of the future.
21:19 Yeaaaahh, Shinn should never have been allowed into the military with that much PTSD. He should have been recieving lots of support and therapy instead.
Blame Durandal for that. He wanted someone who could defeat Kira with SEED Factor, which Shinn does have. Regardless of how emotional and how much trauma Shinn has, Durandal took advantage and manipulated Shinn, so he could have an asset that could stop anyone who could foil the Destiny Plan.
Infinite Justice is a Super closed range Unit like Exia and just like it it's geared for close quarters fights I hope Shin learned his lesson to not to kick a unit that has a kick beam blade weapon it's kinda obvious who's gonna win
The Justice and the Freedom were always meant to be foils to one another, even before they became ‘Strike Freedom’ and ‘Infinite Justice’. While the Freedom focused on more long ranged and a plethora of firearm armaments that obliterate enemies with hail fire of an assortment beams and rail guns, the Justice gets up close and personal with it’s beam sabers and more close ranged capabilities.
Lacus truly knew Athrun's recklessness when piloting mobile suit, so she create Infinite Justice with many beam sabers almost on its every part. as expected from "Sword of the Skies"
Two things that always comes to my mind whenever I watch GSD: Shinn and Rey are two great pilots, but Kira and Athrun are the best pilots of the series without any doubt. And Impulse is a hell of a great Gundam, but sooo wasted in Lunamaria's hands...
Lunamaria is Red outfit ZAFT soldier . She s no slouch in battle field and would consider a great soldier. But if you compare her to ACE pilot like Shinn, Kira and Athrun. It s totally unfair for her. It s like comparing a university student with a Doctor.
@@billySEEDDecade Well, you can see that both Kira and Athrun were giving their best against Shinn and Rey, to the point that one wrong movement could cost them the fight. Having your MS undamaged does not necessarily indicate that you did not had to give your best at the fight, but I understand your point. I take into consideration that Kira and Athrun are more battle-hardened and therefore, fight more cautiously, while Shinn throw himself the most aggressive way possible against his opponents, and this gives more openings for counterattack.
@@athrunmoza8996 Agreed, and that is why I was not comparing her to ace pilots. My point is that GUNDAMS like the Impulse are too powerful, and when handled to pilots who can not make use of all the MS has to offer, their full potential is wasted. The same happens to the Akatsuki, which was being wasted in Cagalli's hands, not because she was a bad pilot, but because she lacks the ability to put the MS to it's full potential. When Mu was piloting it, the Akatsuki was insane, like the Impulse in Shinn's hands.
I mean Kira and Athrun also went through an entire bloody war and are two years older. Considering that they had better experience and maturity, the fact that Shinn could go toe to toe with these two is impressive. Shows you that nature talents alone don't always make you the best, which is part of the message of this series.
this is athrun's excellent ability, different when he first brought infinity justice, because at that time he was sick, now even shin can't even scratch athrun's mobile suit
This final battle is unfortunately kind of a retread of the final fight of the original seed only without the nail biting tension that made that one great. Although Athrun kicking Shin's ass is my absolute favorite part.
Strike Freedom uses the full burst mode attack, the strike freedom's ultimate attack, instead of a double beam saber to defeat the legend, and absolutely destroyed the Rey, but don't worry, he wasn't aiming at the cockpit, Kira is an expert of knowing how to defeat an enemy mobile suit or ship without actually killing the pilot, or the the soldiers inside. Defeating the enemy and sparing their lives with your gundam is actually a harder task than killing them. since when he still piloting the Freedom, Kira almosts never target the cockpit, he'll target the areas that'll only disable the enemy's mobile suit but still have the pilot inside alive and healthy.
In the first war, Kira struggles against the providence dragoons and the freedom is damaged considerably Here Kira manages to shoot down every single dragoon with precision and strike freedom is unscathed
Also the X10A Freedom had a single lacerta assault rifle, so strike freedom is purely designed around Kira's specialty in precision while Athruns Infinite justice is built around melee@@Saicofake
_athrun is really an excellent pilot and a fighter...lacus knows both of them that's why she gave athrun the Justice/Infinite Justice that matches his combat capabilities and skills and that's close-range...
Shin is no match with Athrun and Kira when they're seriously fighting him lol. also i wish Yzak and Dearka have a decent mobile suits they can pilot in this season but we didn't even get enough screen time for them lol
You can really tell that Destiny's writing suffered badly towards the end. The manga version of Shinn & Athrun's fight was a lot better, but here it just looks one-sided and it shouldn't be for realistic reasons.
You know what couldve saved Destiny from completely failing? If shinn actually grew as a character and turned against durandal instead of being his puppy until the end. But the writers pussied out and made jesus and athrun the MCs again
True, but let's be fair and considerate here. First from war is a game POV. From Durandal side, what cards he got? If our powerful Shinn goes against him, what will he do? This series will end faster, since now Rey is going 1 against 3, (Lunamaria is good but not at the same level of those three, so she is out, there's also the chance that she will follow Shinn). From story POV, Shinn is already in the high negative in the first place, then goes to low negative and has more likeability than before, to change his position into the positive only needs some character development... But... Again from War is a game POV, what character would replace him? You can't have Kira or Athrun goes hard Negative suddenly, and spawning some unknown super soldier without any context is out of the question... Should have not killed that masked strong dude, Durandal side has less powerful pilots in the first place, and Durandal himself doesn't looks like one. So unless he goes Takumi from Initial D, and doing some crazy Kansei Dorifuto in space, controlling his mother ship, shooting down everyone, and somehow defeat Kira and Athrun, their team plus Shinn (and maybe Lunamaria), Shinn can't change his side that easily. So they just went" let's just drop this Shinn even further to the negative, and pity him as a MC, in the ending"
Tbf though, every time Shinn seemed to be having doubts Rey and Durandal were there to whisper in his ear, pulling him back to their side. There were literally zero positive influences anywhere near Shinn because Luna herself was depressed with what happened to Meyrin and Athrun. In the end, only putting him in his place at the finale was the only possible solution since words weren't going through to him.
I kinda like Shinn staying and getting that harsh wake up call from Athrun. I think instead SEED Destiny could've been saved if the main POV never left the Minerva side. With that alone it could've shaped Shinn and even Luna much better instead of just being seen in combat and watching the news. More focus would show more insight from Shinn and Luna, Shinn being more than just an angry teenager, Lunamaria actually being credible a voice of reason, and maybe even a smoother transition to Shinn snapping when Luna does try to stop him. Yeah Shinn needed to show growth, and I think he could've had some if it weren't for him and Luna's development happening offscreen.
Infinite Justice, with Darth Maul-like weapon. Athrun, Kira really doing their best not to kill anyone.. While almost everybody is out for blood, very difficult to pull that off. Gil is just angry with what fate/destiny did to him lol, now he's taking it out on everybody. 1 more ep!
Bahkan teringat meme tokusatsu dari serial Kamen Rider Zero One episode 32 Yua tembuk mukanya si Amatsu Gai😂😂😂😂. Tambahannya,Shinn setelah udah episode 34 ke atas selalu gagal maning🤣🤣🤣
Most definitely. Considering that Shinn’s mental state had deteriorated far enough, I don’t think his reaction skills were up to par to have reacted to Athrun’s moves.
In Shinn's defense, he had the Palma Fiocina activated to counter the beam sabers, but we all know it takes time for PF to fire, so it's just an L for Destiny. Yeah, Shinn might've activated PF in panic. And that leg counter is just dumb.
They ruin the power balance by the end of this series, unlike SEEDS where the endgame Gundams are fairly balanced and not too one-sided on each party. Here, Akatsuki is near unstoppable in both offense and defense, Strike Freedom is stupidly OP with the DRAGOON armament and Kira knows its strengths & weaknesses after the encounter with Rau, and Infinite Justice is unfairly broken in melee combat and the new Fatum backpack can even wreck Minerva mothership by itself
@@lenatama indeed. ZAFT destroyed EA hard but somehow became a weakling by the end of series. Destiny and Legend are on par with Strike Freedom and Infinite Justice but they both looked like a Zaku in final battle.
@@huskarang3351 it's not senseless. Experience outcompetes training. Both Kira and Athrun had gained a tremendous amount of battle experience from SEED where they had to fight against pilots who were arguably better than them. Shinn and Rey, although were highly trained and obviously very skilled in their own respects, lacked the experience which would've refined their techniques and instincts.
as for why Atrhun was stronger than Kira because since the beginning of Seed, he already an trained soldier, he was trained with firearms, battle tactics, and of course Mobile Suits, while at the beginning of Seed, Kira was just a college student, and on the halfway of the series he rode Strike purely to protect his friends that aboard Archangels, i admit that Kira computing ability far exceed Athrun, but if we talking about who's better at operating MS, Atrhun is better, also on the entire series, Kira ride Freedom because he need to, in order to protect, but for Atrhun, he has to, in order not to repeat his mistakes, that's why he need MS, tho he become confused with the idea of Durandal lel also Infinite Justice is designed for Close Combat, you can tell by those beam sabers on the body of Justice, while Strike Freedom is for Ranged Combat, by utilizing those flying beams xD anyway this is just my opinion :3
Mistake Shin made when fighting Athern: Number One: Charging in with just the Beam cannon in the hand only to get block and instead of backing off he gone for the counter attack Number Two: Using the said beam cannons to stop the Infinite Justice's two Beam saber strike, but instead of backing off he decide to grab them Number Three: Instead of backing off he decide to try and kick the Infinite Justice knowing full well it has beam saber attach to the legs If Shin didn't make mistake number two he would have being able to fight to a draw with the Infinite Justice as with both and still intact Shin would have being able to use the Destiny's beam cannon, beam boomerang, and the anti-ship sword to fight the Infinite Justice. Using the beam cannon in the hand would be suicide for Shin as they're meant for close range which is the Infinite Justice's specialty.
It's not even that, the destiny could have won in that moment. The destiny have two beam shield on it's hand so if he angle it correctly he could have parry it and then blast athrun point blank with the palm beam
@@acidgolem2132 I don't know if he would have the perfect timing for this. IJ parried the force palm and turned the Destiny away, so Shinn had to turn around, and by the time IJ's sabers were almost hitting.
I love how while Athrun, Shinn, and Lunamaria are in that little battle that while there is VIOLENCE and DEPRESSION and TRAUMA z they are also just having a full blown argument during the entire thing with statements like: “YOU DARN FOOL!” Or “HOWEVER!” Or “Shinn stop! You too Athrun!”
I've never quite understood why ppl were so hung up on Shin being the main Chr. or hated how Kira and Athrun sidelined him. Shinn was "Never" supposed to have supplant the original two, instead he was meant to stand at their side representing a different aspect of the overall war agenda. Kira: kind hearted being "Forced" to fight for one side then later stood against both opps at the end to end fighting. Athrun: A good solder following orders but pressured by the evils and hatred of his father faced with either following orders or standing up for what's right. Shinn: And Shin represents tradegy and trauma and is fueled by these extreme aspects that he often behaves impulsively and is easily manipulated by them that he fights for something that in his heart of hearts doesn't coincide with him.
My biggest problem with it is that the series itself is a bit confused about who exactly the main character is, it promotes shin as the main character but the focus is given more to Athurn and the half way through kira took over as the main focus, it gets all over the place in that way and looses the view point we are supposed to follow. In comparison to a similar situation in zeta gundam, Kamile is no doubt the character we are following while char and Armuro are given big supporting roles but never took away his role in the story which resulted in a far more sharper visualization of the conflict of the series. Although Athurn imo made so much sense to be the main character as a lot of the conflict is his the most throughout.
@@FOXZILLA5734There's no such thing as confuse.. Seed universe will always be about Kira and Athrun whether u like it or not.. Shin's character just icing off the cake to prolong plot and drama.. Get your facts straight..Ptsd boy wont take the mc role.. He got his part and that's it.. No more
@@Masaka6969 when I said when the series is confused about who the main character is that it lost focus on what its trying to do, my biggest problem with kira becoming the main character again in the second half is that he unfortunately had little character development, what we saw him in the beginning of the series was the same as when the series ended and it was because his story was pretty much done by the end of the first seed. I think that the series would have benefit if the focus was more on Athrun and shin only with kira in a supporting role because him taking the reigns as the main character again made the story very messy imo and I see that because destiny was actually decent until half way through when the problems start to show. Although this is what I think if you do like the series then that is fine and respect that opinion.
@@FOXZILLA5734 Well actually they did it right.. They make Shinn as their main mc.. And look what happened.. In the past 20+ episodes, viewers had enough with the ptsd boy running whole show.. They had enough with his rant shit etc... That's why studio brought back Jesus Yamato to save the whole show.. Well guess what happened? Both turn into more shit than before..
@@FOXZILLA5734 Its because Shinn was extremely unpopular as a main character during the show's original run in Japan. So the writers changed course halfway through. It didn't help that they had written themselves into a corner with how few positive external forces they put around Shinn to help facilitate his character growth.
So, for those of you watching this for the first time, I want you to keep in mind that this and the next episode were originally one 22-minute episode. This is the third attempt at expanding the ending (after Final Plus and the 4th compilation movie).
The Dragoon system on Strike Freedom is different from the Dragoon Legend system. on strike freedom has undergone development, so that its capabilities are far above the dragoon legend. no wonder now the name of the dragoon system on strike freedom is super dragoon
Well let’s see, he gets canned halfway thru the show, and doesn’t even get a Gundam that has a nuclear reactor compared to the Infinite and Strike Freedom so no duh
@@deadman123x both destiny and legend are nuclear powered. And here is a old video created by bandai themselves. ruclips.net/video/chWwavL2EtY/видео.html
Athurn is such an anomaly pilot indeed. Even until now i still believe Athurn is way stronger than Jesus Yamato if he is in green empty eyes activated and have no confusion in mind.
Duh, of course Shinn didn’t have a chance considering how thick is the anime plot armor in this anime. Orb also have bottomless resources to support the war. Can you even imagine Kira and Athrun actually losing? Lol 😂
Thats why lacus can sense something when kira find out rey is rau , kira was nervous and lacus sense it becuase lacus can read minds beacuse she is an accord
@@ZhaoZiLong oh. Athrun said "You Crazy Bastard" also make sense in new English dubbed too just like original voice actor do because the meaning of this also a little same meaning but different 👍
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Athrun's Seed Mode is so powerful, he can kick your spirit out of your body in 5 seconds flat
HAHAHAHAHA
Yeah heard this joke 4 years ago but still funny.
That's why ge didn't use it all that much if at all in this series.
The house heard me laugh at this one
Let's build him up as the main character to turn him into another Jerid Messa!
I fucking hate Seed Destiny's writing
22:23 the cutest moment lmao
never seen a gundam put back his beam saber XDDD
Might be the one piece of new animation in this episode.
@@MobiusCoin and that mustve cost them a fortune to animate. That's why their out of budget and had to recycle scenes xD
Athrun rarely use his SEED mode but when he do, he kicks ass.
Ya fr that when you know your screwed and just shows us athrun can kick ass without it
Along with few legs too
Athrun is the only one of the trio of SEED mode users to have never lost in SEED Mode.
Both Kira and Shinn have lost, leaving Athrun the true victor.
he kicks *soul*
@@tensazangetsu8076 bro does a doctor strange and kicks your soul out of your body
Lesson Learned
Don't try to kick Infinite Justice
Also the way that Infinite Justice draws it sabers back then flies off is so badass
they should re release Infinite Justice as MG/MG EX. bandai please
i find it cute tho lol
Athrun: It's over Shinn. I have the high ground.
Its because justice had beam saber everywhere. on his leg, beam bomerrang at his shield , beam bomerang at his shoulder , 2x beam javeline, beam sword at his back pack and also at each wings had beam sword . Invinite justice design to be a close combat unit
Also, don't try to block light sabers with bare hands.
My favorite comment from when this was first uploaded:
"22:00 Shinn got kicked so hard his soul flew out of his mobile suit"
HAHAHAHA made my Day
Nice one
Bcuz athrun is the King of Kicks
Yea I remember that comment 😂
Bruuuuuh xD
22:15 Well damn Athrun kicked so hard that Shinn's soul flew out of the Destiny 😂
I guess this is the case of "Destiny defeated. Justice prevail."
that NEVER not cracks me up!!! XD it was so funny !!! It STILL is!
I love how Mu reacted when Kira said "it's an order" like "woah kid Good Job!!!"
"You've grown a lot, kid!" 😊😊😊
In Vanilla SEED, Mu is described as Sleggar from 0079 with a hint of Quattro from Zeta. He also happens to be voiced by (of all people) Dio Brando.
@@HeIsAnAliMeanwhile Durandal Aznable:
Kira is also an Admiral-rank now and outranks the others :D
@@rongit123123my man went from civilian to commodore within a few years.
When Kira gave the order Mu smiled. Like the boy finally grew up.😆
Totally, why do you think when Kira joined ZAFT and he was already a commander?
22:01 The one thing that Athrun inheirted Goku's infamous word:
B A K A Y A R O!!!!!!
Now that I rewatched this for the umpteenth time, I never realize that Kira just used the "You only live once." speech on Rey until now...
Amazingly they can still chat while operating such a machine, especially Kira and Rey they're not only chatting but also reminiscing about the past
Ironically enough while Rey was seemingly immune to Athrun's BS, Rey was actually much more vulnerable to Kira's BS and got instantly distracted by his "nemesis" of all dudes, costing him a battle.
Kira is so soft spoken, him saying "that's an order" is just great LOL
Funny thing is he can technically give orders to everyone there. His rank insignia i the same as Cagalli. I think he's an admiral
8:10 Kira being hesitant in giving orders only shows that he still respects his comrades despite outranking them.
And thats also the first time he giving orders to them..even though he is not in military
Kira just claiming captaincy. 7:53. What a calm and collected gundam fighter lol
5:07 - _[Angry DIO noises]_
8:25 - Domon and company flip to Terminal.
11:10 - A Game of Drones.
13:36 - Yup, Zack’s _pissed._
15:28 - Damn, that breakup was pretty bad for The Red Comet.
17:50 - Oof, Lacus on SEED.
20:37 - One can never bring back the past, especially at the expense of the future.
DIO😂😂😂😂😂😂
Anyone else love that sick Jedi Style Beam Saber sheathing after Athrun kicked Shinn's soul out of him?
No.
I thought it was cool too!
It's over shinn,I have the high ground.
-Athrun Zala
_You underestimate my power!_
- Shinn
@@HeIsAnAli Don't try it.
@@stephenbyrne2170 RAAAAAAAGHHH!!!!!
When you realize that Athrun and Shinn have the same relationship as obi wan and Anakin
Shinn's VA did one hella job this episode especially the heavy breathing and when he snaps
Yeah, kudos to him. I legit thought he was going to go super saiyan in sheer rage. Amazing performance.
Shinn"Goku"Asuka for me.
@@godlyBlade after the VA voiced Shinn, he voiced the "sadistic" Shinsengumi in Gintama
Now he's Bravern, the gay mech for Isami
if you played Crisis Core, they have the same voice and Shinn and Zack lovers is also his wife irl.
21:19 Yeaaaahh, Shinn should never have been allowed into the military with that much PTSD. He should have been recieving lots of support and therapy instead.
Blame Durandal for that. He wanted someone who could defeat Kira with SEED Factor, which Shinn does have. Regardless of how emotional and how much trauma Shinn has, Durandal took advantage and manipulated Shinn, so he could have an asset that could stop anyone who could foil the Destiny Plan.
@@GrandAdmiralBatuKhanTL;DR: Char wanted an attack dog. Rabidness a bonus.
its really rare to see the gundams actually sheath their beam sabers
Actually exia did it on 1st ep
@@xiang89 yeh I’m saying in gundam series in general
i like how they added infinite justice screen after defeating destiny.
"Lesson is over, now back to my mission"
Infinite Justice is a Super closed range Unit like Exia and just like it it's geared for close quarters fights I hope Shin learned his lesson to not to kick a unit that has a kick beam blade weapon it's kinda obvious who's gonna win
Those beam blades at Justice’s feet was an awesome upgrade, it reminded me of the Old Aegis. That’s why Justice is the top MS in close range fights.
The Justice and the Freedom were always meant to be foils to one another, even before they became ‘Strike Freedom’ and ‘Infinite Justice’. While the Freedom focused on more long ranged and a plethora of firearm armaments that obliterate enemies with hail fire of an assortment beams and rail guns, the Justice gets up close and personal with it’s beam sabers and more close ranged capabilities.
The reason is revealed in Gundam Seed Freedom. Shinn decided to kick back because he is never thinking in the fight LOL
Man the archangel class is a mighty ship it reminds me so much of the argama kai in it's ability to put up an insane ballistic barrage.
22:17 Athrun kicks so hard Shinn's soul flew to space 🚀 hahahaha
Wow. Justice prevail.
Bruh Athrun took out Destiny in less than 30 secs in Seed Mode 😂
This Gundam Seed franchise has the best soundtracks
Second best, unicorn is the best.
@@fchhoHard to beat Hiroyuki Sawano. Arguably one of the best anime music composer currently.
Lacus truly knew Athrun's recklessness when piloting mobile suit, so she create Infinite Justice with many beam sabers almost on its every part.
as expected from "Sword of the Skies"
justice with aegis features
That's an awesome moniker for Athrun
Whats kira moniker? Beam spammer bejezus?
prob it's wings of freedom@@fauzeehanis2777
Wings of Freedom. Jiyuu no tsubasa.
Two things that always comes to my mind whenever I watch GSD: Shinn and Rey are two great pilots, but Kira and Athrun are the best pilots of the series without any doubt. And Impulse is a hell of a great Gundam, but sooo wasted in Lunamaria's hands...
Lunamaria is Red outfit ZAFT soldier . She s no slouch in battle field and would consider a great soldier. But if you compare her to ACE pilot like Shinn, Kira and Athrun. It s totally unfair for her. It s like comparing a university student with a Doctor.
@@billySEEDDecade Well, you can see that both Kira and Athrun were giving their best against Shinn and Rey, to the point that one wrong movement could cost them the fight. Having your MS undamaged does not necessarily indicate that you did not had to give your best at the fight, but I understand your point. I take into consideration that Kira and Athrun are more battle-hardened and therefore, fight more cautiously, while Shinn throw himself the most aggressive way possible against his opponents, and this gives more openings for counterattack.
@@athrunmoza8996 Agreed, and that is why I was not comparing her to ace pilots. My point is that GUNDAMS like the Impulse are too powerful, and when handled to pilots who can not make use of all the MS has to offer, their full potential is wasted. The same happens to the Akatsuki, which was being wasted in Cagalli's hands, not because she was a bad pilot, but because she lacks the ability to put the MS to it's full potential. When Mu was piloting it, the Akatsuki was insane, like the Impulse in Shinn's hands.
Shin has the impulse tho and for me he is best 😉
I mean Kira and Athrun also went through an entire bloody war and are two years older. Considering that they had better experience and maturity, the fact that Shinn could go toe to toe with these two is impressive. Shows you that nature talents alone don't always make you the best, which is part of the message of this series.
"Everybody has only one life." -Kira 9lives Yamato.
Damn I'm here again for the 15th time 😅 this series has got a lot of hours in my lifetime already 😅😂
Truueee
22:04 As a Shinn Asuka, I can confirm this is what happened.
6:20 Athrun could have straight up killed Shinn here if he wanted to with his beam shield
Yzak: Protect the Eternal!
Also Yzak: Becomes the Captain of the Eternal in Seed Freedom
21:54-22:12 watching this scene with lights off in room , making your eyes goes flashy 🔥
this is athrun's excellent ability, different when he first brought infinity justice, because at that time he was sick, now even shin can't even scratch athrun's mobile suit
Also it is obvious that Shinn is not in his right mind
@@justsomeguywithsunglasses8418 that's not a reason your bullshit shinn is not at the level of athrun stupid
@@aivandergenesila Okay.......
He is though.
This final battle is unfortunately kind of a retread of the final fight of the original seed only without the nail biting tension that made that one great. Although Athrun kicking Shin's ass is my absolute favorite part.
Strike Freedom uses the full burst mode attack, the strike freedom's ultimate attack, instead of a double beam saber to defeat the legend, and absolutely destroyed the Rey, but don't worry, he wasn't aiming at the cockpit, Kira is an expert of knowing how to defeat an enemy mobile suit or ship without actually killing the pilot, or the the soldiers inside. Defeating the enemy and sparing their lives with your gundam is actually a harder task than killing them. since when he still piloting the Freedom, Kira almosts never target the cockpit, he'll target the areas that'll only disable the enemy's mobile suit but still have the pilot inside alive and healthy.
Maybe that's why he keeps losing some of his fights
@@ninjamonke9448 the only way for him to kill someone is if he loses a loved one like with Flay.
In the first war, Kira struggles against the providence dragoons and the freedom is damaged considerably
Here Kira manages to shoot down every single dragoon with precision and strike freedom is unscathed
Helps that the Strike Feeedom has its own Dragoon too.
Also the X10A Freedom had a single lacerta assault rifle, so strike freedom is purely designed around Kira's specialty in precision while Athruns Infinite justice is built around melee@@Saicofake
_athrun is really an excellent pilot and a fighter...lacus knows both of them that's why she gave athrun the Justice/Infinite Justice that matches his combat capabilities and skills and that's close-range...
Shin is no match with Athrun and Kira when they're seriously fighting him lol. also i wish Yzak and Dearka have a decent mobile suits they can pilot in this season but we didn't even get enough screen time for them lol
You got your wish for Yzak and Dearka...in GSF.
In mental breakdown you means 😂
16:13
lmao Athrun sound like chinese martial artist caught me off-guard
Shin Asuka...they promoted him as SEED Destiny main protagonist. But reality is, he's one of those antagonists
athrun just put his sword and go away is like "i'm so done with this kid."
When Zura, I mean Athrun made Shinn acknowledged his "third rate" skills could hardly keep his stand against a pilot with composure.
Arthrun kick the soul out of Shinn~~ LOL!!
20:12 Athrun v Shinn conclusion 17:17 Kira v Rey conclusion
Athrun didnt loose in any fight while in seed mode... Best pilot
athrun is still recovering on his injuries at this point yet he outclassed shin. Like shin was a normal kid having tantrums 😂
When the Freedom starts to shoot Dragoons, you know that you are messed up big time.
18:25 “Fuck! I really can’t beat Athrun” 😂
Blud thinks Athrun’s still piloting a GOUF Ignited.
18:25 like wtf Shinn Athrun didn't even turn on his Seed Mode and you still couldn't beat him 😂
You can really tell that Destiny's writing suffered badly towards the end. The manga version of Shinn & Athrun's fight was a lot better, but here it just looks one-sided and it shouldn't be for realistic reasons.
Athrun said "kid sit down I'm not playing"
Athrun - The master of close combat.
10:52 the 2 beam swords was taken out for fun 😆😆
You know what couldve saved Destiny from completely failing? If shinn actually grew as a character and turned against durandal instead of being his puppy until the end. But the writers pussied out and made jesus and athrun the MCs again
True, but let's be fair and considerate here.
First from war is a game POV.
From Durandal side, what cards he got? If our powerful Shinn goes against him, what will he do? This series will end faster, since now Rey is going 1 against 3, (Lunamaria is good but not at the same level of those three, so she is out, there's also the chance that she will follow Shinn).
From story POV, Shinn is already in the high negative in the first place, then goes to low negative and has more likeability than before, to change his position into the positive only needs some character development... But...
Again from War is a game POV, what character would replace him? You can't have Kira or Athrun goes hard Negative suddenly, and spawning some unknown super soldier without any context is out of the question...
Should have not killed that masked strong dude, Durandal side has less powerful pilots in the first place, and Durandal himself doesn't looks like one.
So unless he goes Takumi from Initial D, and doing some crazy Kansei Dorifuto in space, controlling his mother ship, shooting down everyone, and somehow defeat Kira and Athrun, their team plus Shinn (and maybe Lunamaria), Shinn can't change his side that easily.
So they just went" let's just drop this Shinn even further to the negative, and pity him as a MC, in the ending"
@@salamanderred8148 nonsense lol
@@huskarang3351 lol it’s true what is Rey and Lunamaria gonna do if they fought Strike Freedom, infinite Justice and Destiny?
Tbf though, every time Shinn seemed to be having doubts Rey and Durandal were there to whisper in his ear, pulling him back to their side. There were literally zero positive influences anywhere near Shinn because Luna herself was depressed with what happened to Meyrin and Athrun. In the end, only putting him in his place at the finale was the only possible solution since words weren't going through to him.
I kinda like Shinn staying and getting that harsh wake up call from Athrun. I think instead SEED Destiny could've been saved if the main POV never left the Minerva side. With that alone it could've shaped Shinn and even Luna much better instead of just being seen in combat and watching the news.
More focus would show more insight from Shinn and Luna, Shinn being more than just an angry teenager, Lunamaria actually being credible a voice of reason, and maybe even a smoother transition to Shinn snapping when Luna does try to stop him.
Yeah Shinn needed to show growth, and I think he could've had some if it weren't for him and Luna's development happening offscreen.
22:34
Stella Loussier:🙂
Ange:"WHAT THE F-"💢😠💢
Stella Loussier:😳
“C’mon, just one more power!”
“Ok, but this is The Last Power.”
SIr, How many time we need to re-upload this series?
"YES"
Gaia’s just chilling in Eternal’s hangar.
Infinite Justice, with Darth Maul-like weapon.
Athrun, Kira really doing their best not to kill anyone..
While almost everybody is out for blood, very difficult to pull that off.
Gil is just angry with what fate/destiny did to him lol, now he's taking it out on everybody.
1 more ep!
18:23 Best moment for me xD
How am I losing??? 😮😮😮
22:09
Pinter banget ya Shinn itu
Dah tau kakinya ada beam saber malah ditendang
Beam lacertanya aja mo coba dipegang🧠
@@revoulse8359 makin pinternya bukannya pake beam shield malah pake palma fiocina
Bahkan teringat meme tokusatsu dari serial Kamen Rider Zero One episode 32 Yua tembuk mukanya si Amatsu Gai😂😂😂😂. Tambahannya,Shinn setelah udah episode 34 ke atas selalu gagal maning🤣🤣🤣
Dude just used hands to grab a beam saber
And bare leg to block Inf justice's leg beam blade.
That must be a panic move lol.
Most definitely. Considering that Shinn’s mental state had deteriorated far enough, I don’t think his reaction skills were up to par to have reacted to Athrun’s moves.
In Shinn's defense, he had the Palma Fiocina activated to counter the beam sabers, but we all know it takes time for PF to fire, so it's just an L for Destiny. Yeah, Shinn might've activated PF in panic. And that leg counter is just dumb.
The Gundam storyline is very good and very exciting, my friend 👍👍👍🙏❤️
22:25 kinda rare scene though it's kinda knew to see a MS put back its beam saber
The final battle was a missed opportunity...having a longer 2 vs 2 battle and all 4 units suffer damages would make it a more interesting final battle
They ruin the power balance by the end of this series, unlike SEEDS where the endgame Gundams are fairly balanced and not too one-sided on each party. Here, Akatsuki is near unstoppable in both offense and defense, Strike Freedom is stupidly OP with the DRAGOON armament and Kira knows its strengths & weaknesses after the encounter with Rau, and Infinite Justice is unfairly broken in melee combat and the new Fatum backpack can even wreck Minerva mothership by itself
@@lenatama indeed. ZAFT destroyed EA hard but somehow became a weakling by the end of series. Destiny and Legend are on par with Strike Freedom and Infinite Justice but they both looked like a Zaku in final battle.
Well it’s because Kira and athrun are war veterans now unlike in Seed wherein Kira was mindfcked by Rau and the death of Flay affected him so much
@@jamesssdasds senseless reasons
@@huskarang3351 it's not senseless. Experience outcompetes training. Both Kira and Athrun had gained a tremendous amount of battle experience from SEED where they had to fight against pilots who were arguably better than them. Shinn and Rey, although were highly trained and obviously very skilled in their own respects, lacked the experience which would've refined their techniques and instincts.
even in shin's seed mode,he still lost his sword againts atrun normal mode.
My personal best Gundam attack pose ever: Athrun's kick in 13:13 and 22:09 somewhat as cool as the flying drive shoot of Tsubasa Ozora
Arthrun is such a gigachad
이 애니를 본게 얼마전 같은대 벌써 시간이 이렇게 지나다니 ㅠㅁㅠ
無正收刀勁型
as for why Atrhun was stronger than Kira because since the beginning of Seed, he already an trained soldier, he was trained with firearms, battle tactics, and of course Mobile Suits, while at the beginning of Seed, Kira was just a college student, and on the halfway of the series he rode Strike purely to protect his friends that aboard Archangels, i admit that Kira computing ability far exceed Athrun, but if we talking about who's better at operating MS, Atrhun is better, also on the entire series, Kira ride Freedom because he need to, in order to protect, but for Atrhun, he has to, in order not to repeat his mistakes, that's why he need MS, tho he become confused with the idea of Durandal lel also Infinite Justice is designed for Close Combat, you can tell by those beam sabers on the body of Justice, while Strike Freedom is for Ranged Combat, by utilizing those flying beams xD anyway this is just my opinion :3
Hence Athrun having the upper hand when he and Kira went mano a mano in GSF.
Also Shinn becoming a fist burger.
22:08
踢到小鳥真靈魂出竅
Mistake Shin made when fighting Athern:
Number One: Charging in with just the Beam cannon in the hand only to get block and instead of backing off he gone for the counter attack
Number Two: Using the said beam cannons to stop the Infinite Justice's two Beam saber strike, but instead of backing off he decide to grab them
Number Three: Instead of backing off he decide to try and kick the Infinite Justice knowing full well it has beam saber attach to the legs
If Shin didn't make mistake number two he would have being able to fight to a draw with the Infinite Justice as with both and still intact Shin would have being able to use the Destiny's beam cannon, beam boomerang, and the anti-ship sword to fight the Infinite Justice. Using the beam cannon in the hand would be suicide for Shin as they're meant for close range which is the Infinite Justice's specialty.
It's called rookie mistake, they let a seasoned pilot vs a brainwashed kid fight.
@@kenshinthebuilder4945 we call it bs plot weak ending
It's not even that, the destiny could have won in that moment. The destiny have two beam shield on it's hand so if he angle it correctly he could have parry it and then blast athrun point blank with the palm beam
@@acidgolem2132 I don't know if he would have the perfect timing for this. IJ parried the force palm and turned the Destiny away, so Shinn had to turn around, and by the time IJ's sabers were almost hitting.
@@MindDesire88 yeah, if only Shinn knew that Palma Fiociana can shoot too haha
edit: it would have expanded his fighting style
every design of the gundam, meteor, song, this shit is just legend 🔥
Bruh Athrun just yeet shin a second after he is in seed mode and I’m really think that Athrun is a better pilot than kira
I love how while Athrun, Shinn, and Lunamaria are in that little battle that while there is VIOLENCE and DEPRESSION and TRAUMA z they are also just having a full blown argument during the entire thing with statements like: “YOU DARN FOOL!” Or “HOWEVER!” Or “Shinn stop! You too Athrun!”
I love it when Athrun saying
" Kono bakaeyo!"
This’s why Shin have PTSD about Justice :v
21:55 Akaza teaches Obanai a lesson 🤣
Saving Private Tamayo
8:08 gets hit by the same weapon that when in episode 41 "if that was a beam, it would have been over"
Athrun goes into seed mode: so you've chosen death
I've never quite understood why ppl were so hung up on Shin being the main Chr. or hated how Kira and Athrun sidelined him. Shinn was "Never" supposed to have supplant the original two, instead he was meant to stand at their side representing a different aspect of the overall war agenda.
Kira: kind hearted being "Forced" to fight for one side then later stood against both opps at the end to end fighting.
Athrun: A good solder following orders but pressured by the evils and hatred of his father faced with either following orders or standing up for what's right.
Shinn: And Shin represents tradegy and trauma and is fueled by these extreme aspects that he often behaves impulsively and is easily manipulated by them that he fights for something that in his heart of hearts doesn't coincide with him.
My biggest problem with it is that the series itself is a bit confused about who exactly the main character is, it promotes shin as the main character but the focus is given more to Athurn and the half way through kira took over as the main focus, it gets all over the place in that way and looses the view point we are supposed to follow. In comparison to a similar situation in zeta gundam, Kamile is no doubt the character we are following while char and Armuro are given big supporting roles but never took away his role in the story which resulted in a far more sharper visualization of the conflict of the series. Although Athurn imo made so much sense to be the main character as a lot of the conflict is his the most throughout.
@@FOXZILLA5734There's no such thing as confuse.. Seed universe will always be about Kira and Athrun whether u like it or not.. Shin's character just icing off the cake to prolong plot and drama.. Get your facts straight..Ptsd boy wont take the mc role.. He got his part and that's it.. No more
@@Masaka6969 when I said when the series is confused about who the main character is that it lost focus on what its trying to do, my biggest problem with kira becoming the main character again in the second half is that he unfortunately had little character development, what we saw him in the beginning of the series was the same as when the series ended and it was because his story was pretty much done by the end of the first seed. I think that the series would have benefit if the focus was more on Athrun and shin only with kira in a supporting role because him taking the reigns as the main character again made the story very messy imo and I see that because destiny was actually decent until half way through when the problems start to show. Although this is what I think if you do like the series then that is fine and respect that opinion.
@@FOXZILLA5734 Well actually they did it right.. They make Shinn as their main mc.. And look what happened.. In the past 20+ episodes, viewers had enough with the ptsd boy running whole show.. They had enough with his rant shit etc... That's why studio brought back Jesus Yamato to save the whole show.. Well guess what happened? Both turn into more shit than before..
@@FOXZILLA5734 Its because Shinn was extremely unpopular as a main character during the show's original run in Japan. So the writers changed course halfway through. It didn't help that they had written themselves into a corner with how few positive external forces they put around Shinn to help facilitate his character growth.
整個seed系列看下來還是阿斯蘭最op😂!！...只差在人物設定根本莫名其妙，不然就是完美的另一位男主角
? 他是𥚃面最強的角色吧⋯⋯
Athrun 2-0 Shin, nobody did beat Athrun in seed mode
Then Lacus Clyne became the true dictator after this war, how fun.
athrun really just casually kicked the soul outta shinn. he really went to the lifestream with that kick
The idea of Kuja from FF9 sending Zack from FF7 into the Lifestream is...interesting.
@@HeIsAnAlicahill saint of g-reco stabbed lunamaria hawke of seed destiny and sent her to the lifestream too 😩✊🏼
@@crystalpeaches7825 Luna is also Rip Van Winkle from Hellsing and IIRC Lightning from FF13.
I mean justice is supposed to be a melee specialized mobile suit anyway, at least that's what got potrayed in Gundam games
So, for those of you watching this for the first time, I want you to keep in mind that this and the next episode were originally one 22-minute episode. This is the third attempt at expanding the ending (after Final Plus and the 4th compilation movie).
The Dragoon system on Strike Freedom is different from the Dragoon Legend system. on strike freedom has undergone development, so that its capabilities are far above the dragoon legend. no wonder now the name of the dragoon system on strike freedom is super dragoon
阿斯蘭:老子沒開SEED你這辣基鳥就打不過我了, 讓老子開了之後還不把你秒了
煌未開SEED 90%
開SEED 100%
阿斯蘭未開SEED 85%
開SEED 95%
真·飛鳥未開SEED 75%
開SEED 90%
Shinn never stood a chance against Athrun. Lost his sword against Athrun who wasnt even in Seed mode
Well let’s see, he gets canned halfway thru the show, and doesn’t even get a Gundam that has a nuclear reactor compared to the Infinite and Strike Freedom so no duh
Shiny once said that he don’t need to take a advice from someone who loss to freedom and look what he got back athrun teach him a lesson for life
@@deadman123x both destiny and legend are nuclear powered.
And here is a old video created by bandai themselves.
ruclips.net/video/chWwavL2EtY/видео.html
Athurn is such an anomaly pilot indeed. Even until now i still believe Athurn is way stronger than Jesus Yamato if he is in green empty eyes activated and have no confusion in mind.
Duh, of course Shinn didn’t have a chance considering how thick is the anime plot armor in this anime. Orb also have bottomless resources to support the war. Can you even imagine Kira and Athrun actually losing? Lol 😂
13:00 Luna salt because he took her sis instead 😭 tbf she was at the right place right time and could and wanted to help
Gundam Seed has some of the best songs in the franchise, though I still prefer Gundam 00.
Thats why lacus can sense something when kira find out rey is rau , kira was nervous and lacus sense it becuase lacus can read minds beacuse she is an accord
Good❤, 4k?❤
10:25
Kira: wait this feeling-- *ptsd is kicking in*
22:00 best moments because I memorize what Athrun said to Shinn "You such a fool" until now🤣🤣
in English Dub, Athrun said, "You Crazy Bastard..!"
@@ZhaoZiLong I see. It was new for me because I never watched a dub
@@nurinadibah4315 I think it's New one. 🙂
@@ZhaoZiLong oh. Athrun said "You Crazy Bastard" also make sense in new English dubbed too just like original voice actor do because the meaning of this also a little same meaning but different 👍
@@nurinadibah4315 BTW, Who's Your Favorite? Kira, Athrun or Shinn?
19:13 네 목숨은 너의 것이다!
It was Fukuda and Morosawa fault because this case happened. If you ask me again, there is a case between Fukuda and Shindou Naomi sleep together.
that's only rumour
Athrun is Lavar during Seed Mode: *"Neva Lost"*