EGM Grand Final- TheViper vs DauT [Game 1]

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  • Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
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    The Escape Gaming Masters Age of Empires 2, Rise of the Rajas tournament continues with TheViper vs DauT
    Casters: ZeroEmpires & T90Official
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Комментарии • 196

  • @Mermaidkilla
    @Mermaidkilla Год назад +4

    watching this in 2023 is so strange. So much has changed since then. Viewing AOE2 without DE, without captureage with sloppy dark age etc etc.
    But still, with Viper and Daut (and even a Daut-Castle!)
    Loving it!

  • @SVillainG
    @SVillainG 7 лет назад +201

    I've been out of the AoE scene for awhile and.. what the heck?
    - ZeroEmpires is back casting
    - Pros playing AoE HD
    - Viper vs. Daut on a final... well I guess not everything has changed.

  • @nessesaryschoolthing
    @nessesaryschoolthing 7 лет назад +162

    This is the kind of thing that made me such a fan of Daut. He's always coming up with these unexpected, meta-breaking strategies and unit choices and executing them so nicely.

    • @bruno-vs2cm
      @bruno-vs2cm 4 года назад

      nessesaryschoolthing but he plays normally, and reveals his strength in the championships.

  • @OniDasAlagoas
    @OniDasAlagoas 7 лет назад +148

    Man, for that lumbercamp he wasn't looking for efficiency, he was looking a for a ''breaking the meta'' design. Decoration and marketing is the key for winning.

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      @robertolegend1660 3 года назад

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      @robertolegend1660 3 года назад

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  • @RB-fp8hn
    @RB-fp8hn 7 лет назад +129

    Daut's cav archers was a "M Night Shyamalan"-level twist!

    • @FeverAmbone105
      @FeverAmbone105 7 лет назад +4

      Ritwik Banerjee a true Bollywood style twist :D

  • @kOstA8pSychO
    @kOstA8pSychO 7 лет назад +54

    Grand final - The Viper's "oh no" edition

  • @chriszegarra6125
    @chriszegarra6125 7 лет назад +236

    Give Viper a break with that Lumbercamp... Hes #clearly new

    • @kingsarues1586
      @kingsarues1586 7 лет назад +9

      Chris Zegarra viper clearly skipped the learning campaign

    • @zes7215
      @zes7215 7 лет назад

      wrg,idts

    • @prodbaxi
      @prodbaxi 7 лет назад +4

      the lumbercamp was really nice, just dont have to many villigars on it at the beginning and it will be the best 100 wood he spent that game

    • @jamiekoenigstaff2533
      @jamiekoenigstaff2533 6 лет назад +5

      #clearly

    • @IschmarVI
      @IschmarVI 2 года назад

      normally I like those "deep" lumbercamps a lot because even after chopping a bunch of trees they are still very efficient as there is so many trees close to them. This lumbercamp, however .... let's just say, it was a tad TOO "deep" 11111

  • @r0ssel0203113
    @r0ssel0203113 7 лет назад +26

    Daut will always be a great, brilliant and genius player of all time...he is crazy brilliant with fundamental ideas normally no one think of...there is a reason Daut has crazy fan base even though he is not very talkative and he does crazy stuffs every now and then.

  • @jesushorses
    @jesushorses 4 года назад +1

    Darko Dautovic, still playing Age2x! Ha! Hey man been about 15 years since I played with you. Good to see your Serbian winning ways are still working. Its crazy, this quarantine I've been on has me on a nostalgia run. Hope all is well!

  • @thijsyo
    @thijsyo 7 лет назад +35

    WOW, what patience with the heavy cav archer! brilliant move

  • @Coolguy98765
    @Coolguy98765 6 лет назад +5

    Spirit of the Law made a video showing that you actually get more food by finishing your sheep/Turkey first, so that was the right play.

    • @Rohkiani311006
      @Rohkiani311006 5 лет назад +1

      The boar was at ~70 food. You get more total food by reducing decay amount (boar decay slightly faster, so not just decay time) and the shepherds killed another turkey before the boar finished. If it a good move by the player, it was because they didn't trust themselves to retask the villagers as soon as they finished the boar.

  • @mohitk278
    @mohitk278 7 лет назад +6

    Indians are really shining out in this tournament. I feel it's the one of the best choice of civ for a well-rounded player with a universal style, which one can surely say that Viper and DauT both are.

    • @riseabovehate9476
      @riseabovehate9476 4 года назад

      India has got pros in aoe scene? player names?

    • @mohitk278
      @mohitk278 4 года назад

      @@riseabovehate9476 by Indians, I meant Indian civilization.

    • @baneous18
      @baneous18 2 года назад +1

      @@mohitk278 lol

  • @blacklotus13
    @blacklotus13 7 лет назад +8

    zak i'm pretty sure it's just fine to take the sheep instead of the boar. there is a video by spiritofthelaw explaining why it increases the food income overall. (if you need food ASAP to click up to feudal then you would be correct, but that was not the case here!)

  • @skyflyhigh5482
    @skyflyhigh5482 Год назад +1

    this was 6 years ago but man what a fight this game is a masterpiece

  • @noyezz3690
    @noyezz3690 5 лет назад +4

    2:14 look at the bad placement of the wood, notice an idle villagers from 2:14 for viper and It going to get worse when more villagers are going to be send to collect wood, notice at 3:05 there is still one idle villager, 3:27 still the case :o

  • @neuwkk9910
    @neuwkk9910 7 лет назад +12

    Viper vs Daut, Viper vs Daut, everybody wants to see this happen!

  • @nathanhawthorne2889
    @nathanhawthorne2889 7 лет назад +76

    pro tip, if the series is only two parts that gives away that somebody won both, you could upload a thirty minute part 3 just to throw people off so it doesn't give it away, just have it be a thumbnail or something

    • @Sesaphim
      @Sesaphim 7 лет назад +2

      Nathan Hawthorne smart idea!!

    • @tilen91
      @tilen91 7 лет назад +2

      Nathan Hawthorne its bo5 so after 2 wins nothing is decided yet

    • @Craxler
      @Craxler 7 лет назад +7

      I believe he is talking about the previous series, where viper 2-0'd slam, and since there is only 2 videos, watching who wins the first one kinda spoils it :/ This is the eternal struggle when you have to watch the replays instead of watching it live

    • @theonderonian2931
      @theonderonian2931 7 лет назад +2

      But the problem with that is, if they upload 3, you already know that whoever lost the first game, won the second, otherwise that round would be over, ya know? It wouldn't make that much of a difference.

    • @Sesaphim
      @Sesaphim 7 лет назад +1

      The Onderonian your wrong and not getting it the third upload is a blank meaning that the game was won 2-0 and the third upload is so that you don't know who won. your saying it as if it went to game 3. this only went to 2 games but if you put the max playable games uploaded then it maintains the mystery.

  • @galleyraidjepsen2083
    @galleyraidjepsen2083 7 лет назад +13

    Technically, you will end up with more food taking the turkey first, when both the turkey and the boar are rotting under the TC... However, the food does come in much slower, and for the extra 5-10 food gained, generally it's not worth it.

    • @heinzmuller2217
      @heinzmuller2217 5 лет назад

      Galley Raid Jepsen why?

    • @Rohkiani311006
      @Rohkiani311006 5 лет назад +1

      They didn't harvest the turkey first. The boar was at ~70 food remaining, so they probably had most or all villagers on boar, then switched to turkey a little too early.

    • @macelharen
      @macelharen 3 года назад

      that's an interesting perspective. i was hoping someone had commented on the 07:00 remark about that.

  • @Rohkiani311006
    @Rohkiani311006 5 лет назад +1

    17:03 Palisade gates have 2 pierce armor, 2 normal armor, while most buildings, including houses, have 0 normal, 7 pierce armor and gain +1/+1 per age. So palisade gates do better than houses vs militia, but worse vs crossbowmen.
    "Building armor" is a separate armor class and isn't just the amount of armor that buildings have. Most buildings have 0 building armor; castles and stone walls/gates are the only exceptions.

  • @anthonybeervor2265
    @anthonybeervor2265 6 лет назад +2

    Finishing the turkey first will make one carcass quickly go away, so you have one instead of two things rotting at the time. This saves food in the long run, but is slower in the short run. Both are valid strategies imo.

    • @Rohkiani311006
      @Rohkiani311006 5 лет назад +1

      DauT didn't finish the turkey, he started harvesting a turkey while boar still had 110 food left. It was just a standard pattern, you force drop boar hunters and go up to feudal.

  • @casamir1
    @casamir1 4 года назад

    This was the first t90 video I ever watched 3 years ago :)

  • @ronaldambatoho
    @ronaldambatoho 5 лет назад +5

    The fact that the relics are there lying on the ground is drivin me crazy.

  • @Rabazziii
    @Rabazziii 7 лет назад +37

    what a game what a fight!

  • @santiago18220
    @santiago18220 7 лет назад +50

    i think spirit of the law made a video about taking the sheep first rather than the boar

    • @davidf.1723
      @davidf.1723 7 лет назад +24

      Is there any thing he didnt made a vid about ;)

    • @lukam0s95
      @lukam0s95 7 лет назад +2

      If you finish the deer first you will overall collect more food. Although it may be slower

    • @SilentHotdog28
      @SilentHotdog28 6 лет назад

      Well you go for fastest food, not most efficient.....most games are quick games and you want every quick advantage you can get.....you don't really worry about efficiency unless you know for a fact the game is going real long.

    • @karelpeeters6240
      @karelpeeters6240 6 лет назад

      That's bullshit, the games aren't that short that they don't even finish the boars!

    • @Kittensinabox
      @Kittensinabox 4 года назад +1

      @@SilentHotdog28 sheep first gets you the food 3 seconds slower, but you end up with 20 more food overall. It's because you can finish the sheep quicker and lose less to decay, so you only have the boar decaying instead of the sheep + boar decaying. Sheep first is always better, it's just annoying because you have to retask the villagers after so they dont go kill another sheep.

  • @7mean7bunny7
    @7mean7bunny7 7 лет назад +2

    Zero, can you start showing the drafts as well before the game begins? I think its a really interesting part of the game and would like to see the picks and bans.

  • @Kyonne25
    @Kyonne25 7 лет назад +3

    Don't know much about AoEII but i'm pretty interested in those games, are the map randomly generated?

  • @Colajumps
    @Colajumps 7 лет назад

    I like his lumber camp placement. Of course, his villager has been idle for at least 2 minutes there, but if he had had an eye on him, this is by far the most efficient placement you can get!

  • @masterpat4726
    @masterpat4726 7 лет назад +3

    great casting ,great games ,great tournament ! i wish i could cast game like they do ,gg!!!

  • @micheledellaira4306
    @micheledellaira4306 6 лет назад +2

    Amazing game and micro by two amazing players!

  • @prankishsquire2663
    @prankishsquire2663 7 лет назад +1

    Thank you, gentlemen!! Awesome!!

  • @mariankojnok8992
    @mariankojnok8992 6 лет назад +3

    19:05 -wtf was that kamikadze action?

  • @joen5091
    @joen5091 5 лет назад +2

    wonder where i would be if i continued to play this since 99

  • @tntaclegrape
    @tntaclegrape 7 лет назад +1

    Speaking of battle of angkor, would we ever be able to see those final games?

  • @thetayz72
    @thetayz72 5 лет назад +1

    Lol I would have liked to hear Viper's reaction to the DauT army reveal. "Vvaaaatt?!"

  • @miomatteo
    @miomatteo 7 лет назад

    Fantastic! When do you plan to post Game2 and Game3? THANKS!

  • @samosa9488
    @samosa9488 7 лет назад +2

    Where is the game 2 of the grand final?

  • @DarKxSlay3Rx21x
    @DarKxSlay3Rx21x 7 лет назад +2

    Whaaaaatttt!!!!!!!!. Bro AOE is life man, love this game. My favorite strategy game ever. AOE, EE, and Rise of Nations are the best games to release.😩😃😄😁☝️👌

  • @travishardy943
    @travishardy943 7 лет назад +2

    i dont understand the comment at the end: "9999 viable thumb. fire. fire. viable thumb" can somebody explain?

  • @Kxoe559
    @Kxoe559 7 лет назад

    The reason someone said the turkey was correct to gather from is because it is more efficient to have fewer animals rotting at the same time, so it is better to finish whichever has less food. But in this case the javelina have only 70 food left and it is gathered faster than the turkey, so yes, the javelina would have been most efficient.

    • @k_god7207
      @k_god7207 5 лет назад

      Boar*, javelina travel in packs.

  • @misterioes89
    @misterioes89 7 лет назад +5

    Why didn't Viper at 8:00 attack the 1hp building with his scout so daut loses all the ressources for the building?

    • @Gammelmann
      @Gammelmann 7 лет назад +3

      You can't see or attack the fondation of an enemy building until a villager has started building it.

    • @misterioes89
      @misterioes89 7 лет назад

      Unless there's a mangonel attacking a villager standing ontop of the foundation, I guess...

    • @oladushek8515
      @oladushek8515 7 лет назад

      except farms

    • @vanle3
      @vanle3 7 лет назад

      Not even then, as long as you haven't started building it the enemy can't damage or destroy it. The only thing that can happen is that you build something in that space before them but that only cancels the other player's building and returns his ressources.

  • @rahuldsouza1985
    @rahuldsouza1985 5 лет назад +1

    Awesome game, good to see the cav archers

  • @jakoblochner4784
    @jakoblochner4784 5 лет назад

    Beautiful Video! But why no metrics on the bottom of the screen?

  • @JairCrawford
    @JairCrawford 7 лет назад +32

    These pros always drive me crazy... they always gg right when it's getting good lol. I get that they know the game is lost but man, if I was that good, I'd wanna play to the bitter end! lol

    • @Apollys
      @Apollys 7 лет назад +11

      No, if you were that good, you would know it's over.

    • @erickauffmann_official
      @erickauffmann_official 6 лет назад +1

      I agree! I always fight till the last man standing

    • @HeavyMetalGamingHD
      @HeavyMetalGamingHD 6 лет назад

      that's actually pretty stupid. you just steal the time of the other player.

    • @jab3020
      @jab3020 6 лет назад +1

      waste of time what could viper do anymore Daut just steamrolls everything after that :)

    • @KedaiNasi
      @KedaiNasi 5 лет назад +1

      frankly when your army is done, you're done. unless you have backup units then fight to the death by all means

  • @queleimportapene6582
    @queleimportapene6582 5 лет назад +1

    When a bad lumber-camp placement adds up to imperial

  • @JackBrown-fo4nb
    @JackBrown-fo4nb 4 года назад

    so, was it a Daut castle or not?

  • @Jimmy911ism
    @Jimmy911ism 5 лет назад

    The majority of this game appeared to be played in Daut's town, so how did Viper not have the economy to recover?

  • @Nazrahnas
    @Nazrahnas 6 лет назад +1

    How come they dont use any priests to pick up relics and heal the armies?

    • @Jimmy911ism
      @Jimmy911ism 5 лет назад

      Nazrahnas I noticed that too.
      They don't use monks as doctors nor TCs or Castles as hospitals and it's a mystery.
      It's 1v1, so there's a clear front.

  • @drsalah22
    @drsalah22 3 года назад

    when is the game consider finished??

  • @sherifsheryo623
    @sherifsheryo623 4 года назад

    what are standard tournament settings?

  • @sand5464
    @sand5464 7 лет назад +2

    This game should be called throwing your gold in 1vs1

  • @janbeevi4169
    @janbeevi4169 6 лет назад +5

    this is what happens when u play like a machine and your opponent knows 90% of the time u will play like a machine generated code. viper got owned

  • @kostas_ts
    @kostas_ts 7 лет назад

    What a game of AOE man, awesome.

  • @justinedespa2825
    @justinedespa2825 7 лет назад +2

    i love you guys! "I wanted to say this but we talked about so much; turkeys and boars and which one is better" -T90 you're an amzing commentator and smart (for an American ;) haha and Zak sounding typically smug English first time Ive ever heard "I don't know hoow you could possibly think thats the case" hah. Sorry don't mean to add more sterotypey bigotry into the world NOT what is needed but just thought it was funny. P.s you guys rock thank you so much!!

  • @devilhearts007
    @devilhearts007 7 лет назад +1

    which map is this ?

  • @ayushanand7933
    @ayushanand7933 4 года назад

    which age od empires is this? plz help

  • @peterpeterson4800
    @peterpeterson4800 7 лет назад +4

    what a MASTAPIECE from DauT

  • @ezrahn
    @ezrahn Год назад

    RUclips in 2023: "do you want a history lesson?"

  • @Gorilla_MTG
    @Gorilla_MTG 4 года назад

    "Surprise! Battle Elephants!"

  • @StracFILMS
    @StracFILMS 7 лет назад +1

    Awesome game!, I need to watch the others game, please zero! 11

    • @anonssr9514
      @anonssr9514 7 лет назад

      The other games are avaiable in EscapeAoE's channel in Twitch ;D

  • @elliothulseturkce8136
    @elliothulseturkce8136 6 лет назад

    Where is the rest of the game???

  • @Beaverzarecool
    @Beaverzarecool 7 лет назад

    Where are the other games? :(

  • @STILLALIVE26
    @STILLALIVE26 6 лет назад

    how to get that flat maps?

  • @bruno-vs2cm
    @bruno-vs2cm 4 года назад

    Daut can play like the number 1. but he plays normally, and reveals his strength in the championships.

  • @taendt
    @taendt 7 лет назад

    so... when will g2 be uploaded?

  • @WuddupDok
    @WuddupDok 7 лет назад

    great game. Digging this map too

  • @majungasaurusaaaa
    @majungasaurusaaaa 7 лет назад

    What did he do cav archers for? I saw no point. He could have won that with just arb and e skirms alone. Maybe he wanted to use them to raid while his footsloggers held the front

    • @anirudhviswanathan3986
      @anirudhviswanathan3986 6 лет назад

      DauT is always playing 5 steps ahead of his opponent. Thats what makes him DauT.

  • @TheHahanicevideo
    @TheHahanicevideo 6 лет назад

    It is better to take the turkey in that situation (if the turkey was started first) as the turkey has less food - will be used up faster - won't rot for as long

  • @PHOENIX-dh3zv
    @PHOENIX-dh3zv Год назад

    Still play it

  • @Rohkiani311006
    @Rohkiani311006 5 лет назад

    Disappointed that we didn't see elephant archers! They make excellent tanks even when not elite, since the elite upgrade doesn't give them extra armor. A cavalry archer with +2 armor can take 10 hits from an arbalest; an elephant archer, which costs just 80 more resources, can take 60 hits. If you get +6 armor from ring archer armor and Parthian tactics, then the heavy cavalry can take 20 hits while the non-elite elephant archer can now take 300.
    In comparison, battle elephants with +2 armor can take 39 hits from a heavy cav archer.

  • @fenrisvarg5563
    @fenrisvarg5563 3 года назад

    3 years later. With this map by daut he should not get to castle age tbh. Great game. Indians were way stronger than nowadays ^^

  • @Erikness123
    @Erikness123 6 лет назад

    love ur channel

  • @judgyfudge3674
    @judgyfudge3674 7 лет назад

    That escalated pretty quickly..

  • @kendamaonthemoon1506
    @kendamaonthemoon1506 7 лет назад +1

    Guys it's just me or i saw this map before? The exactly same set-up.

  • @milochan90
    @milochan90 4 года назад

    Amazing

  • @streamofthought8662
    @streamofthought8662 5 лет назад

    zeroempires ur my fav person ever

  • @Brayden.1P
    @Brayden.1P 7 лет назад +3

    Very fun match! I love the Indians civ.

  • @Tocaraca
    @Tocaraca 7 лет назад

    HCA are so underrated!! :D

  • @KOSOVOisSERBIA222
    @KOSOVOisSERBIA222 7 лет назад +4

    DauT save best for the end...

    • @srbishkrst
      @srbishkrst 6 лет назад

      KOSOVOisSERBIA888 hahahaha tako je brate

  • @ulfricsombrage
    @ulfricsombrage 4 года назад

    Nice fight at the end XD

  • @sp4rx319
    @sp4rx319 5 лет назад

    I swear i didnt coppied his name

  • @pardopardo3204
    @pardopardo3204 5 лет назад

    Viper is SICK!

  • @venomousj4690
    @venomousj4690 7 лет назад +1

    What game by Daut!! Diapered it all throughout :D

  • @mi2kami2ka67
    @mi2kami2ka67 5 лет назад

    hello guys i am new in this game , i couldnt find your support email so i ll ask here , yesterday i bought the aoe 2 hd in steam and when i start play i see its kinda different from when i watch it on streams , there are alot of maps missing and also some civilizations like when i watch a stream i see ethiopians indians malay ect but i dont have those in my game why is that ? pleas answer me or give me support email , thanks

    • @potzec
      @potzec 5 лет назад +2

      i would say that you probably do not have the dlcs then.

    • @TheCoolFever
      @TheCoolFever 4 года назад

      probably you bought the basics without the dlcs or the expansion packs. Search it on steam, its there. For the HD edition, it shouldnt be costly at all now that definitive is out.

  • @thegeneral19
    @thegeneral19 6 лет назад +11

    finally i saw a game when viper lost... lol

  • @williamcoursey3885
    @williamcoursey3885 3 года назад

    15:53

  • @RBEmpathy
    @RBEmpathy 6 лет назад

    I want to get AOE2 bundle on steam, but without the summer savings it's $40!

  • @zes7215
    @zes7215 7 лет назад +1

    no such thing as powerful unitx, no powerby unitx, no such thing as riskyx

  • @michaelcorcoran3942
    @michaelcorcoran3942 6 лет назад

    Intense stuff.

  • @rajeeshputhukulangara
    @rajeeshputhukulangara 6 лет назад

    Nice !

  • @emirbaltic1286
    @emirbaltic1286 7 лет назад

    jooj komšija legendoooo :D

    • @Ghost-ym6in
      @Ghost-ym6in 5 лет назад

      Zdravo drug, zelio bi igrat ovu igri jesil i ti igrac ? Zanima me par info

  • @pspboy7
    @pspboy7 3 года назад +1

    I had no DauT! 😉

  • @nickd8621
    @nickd8621 4 года назад +1

    🇷🇸🇷🇸🇷🇸

  • @gumgummagoo2050
    @gumgummagoo2050 7 лет назад

    classic daut surprise

  • @milesmitchell353
    @milesmitchell353 5 лет назад

    Put all your villagers on sheep and leave one on the boar, gets you the most food!
    ruclips.net/video/N-10piMe8g8/видео.html - Around the 7:50 time frame

  • @Woodandfarming
    @Woodandfarming 5 лет назад

    Memory's...

  • @T1bonkyou
    @T1bonkyou 5 лет назад

    I think t90 is always the host lol

  • @jambonniercr8492
    @jambonniercr8492 4 года назад

    that such a déjà vu

  • @Benpurple4
    @Benpurple4 7 лет назад

    potato vision?

  • @jackherbic6048
    @jackherbic6048 5 лет назад

    spirit of the law proved going turkey first is better

  • @thetayz72
    @thetayz72 5 лет назад

    Lmao the beautycamp. Who else but Viper