beginner's guide to why "polyglots" lie

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  • Опубликовано: 2 ноя 2024

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  • @5002seven
    @5002seven 3 месяца назад +20

    "AUSTRALIAN GIVES PERFECT PRESENTATION IN ENGLISH (he learned from watching ANIME)"

  • @Reforming_LL
    @Reforming_LL 3 месяца назад +10

    This is a good video! RUclips polyglots are part of the reason why I almost quit my target language, and I’m glad someone’s calling them out.

    • @TheHeadOfState
      @TheHeadOfState  3 месяца назад +1

      Appreciate it, that's what we do!

    • @Reforming_LL
      @Reforming_LL 3 месяца назад +1

      @@TheHeadOfState Nice. By the way, how do you edit your videos, and how do you make your thumbnails?

    • @TheHeadOfState
      @TheHeadOfState  3 месяца назад +3

      @@Reforming_LL I make my own thumbnails on Canva (generally either with photos I have or AI generated art as it's free to use and effective).
      I recently got an editor, but previously I made my own minor snips and adjustments to videos. I'm planning on having them professionally done with good equipment for maximum results.

  • @Richard-dv4kw
    @Richard-dv4kw 2 месяца назад +2

    I’m learning Spanish recently started. I’m taking the comprehensive input approach. I plan to read a1 til the next steps and listen in the following manner.

  • @Hellenicheavymetal
    @Hellenicheavymetal 3 месяца назад +5

    Language Simp jokes around a lot. Can't really take a lot of what he says seriously. Love his channel.

    • @Flyingsearat
      @Flyingsearat 3 месяца назад +1

      Yeah , he’s completely satire I think lmao

  • @seikomyazawa
    @seikomyazawa 3 месяца назад +7

    thank you for exposing those fake polyglots

  • @JoseAngelFlores
    @JoseAngelFlores 3 месяца назад +13

    I have been an English teacher for more than 20 years. You cannot learn a language in seven days, nor in three months. You can learn a few things about the language in three months, you can learn to say good morning, how are you? and stuff like that, and you can probably learn some basic fundamentals of the language in three months, but it won´t make you a speaker. It takes years to learn a language.

    • @Matt-jc2ml
      @Matt-jc2ml 3 месяца назад +1

      Depends on the language and the method. I watched a video about a guy learning spanish in 44 days and it was pretty convincing. But Spanish is very easy to learn, perhaps the absolute easiest for english speakers. He wasn't perfect but he spoke pretty good. Probably a low B2 level. But the guy studied for 8 hours a day and documented everything.

    • @gova4238
      @gova4238 2 месяца назад +1

      @@Matt-jc2ml It took me more than five years of total immersion to reach level B2 in Spanish as a native SPANISH speaker. How long did it take you to reach level B2 in your mother tongue?

    • @Matt-jc2ml
      @Matt-jc2ml 2 месяца назад

      @@gova4238 that doesn't make any sense

    • @gova4238
      @gova4238 2 месяца назад

      @@Matt-jc2ml You see, you don't understand a very simple fact: a baby needs more than a year of total immersion to be able to say complete sentences in their mother tongue and more than five years to reach a B2 level of fluency. What doesn't make sense to you?

    • @Matt-jc2ml
      @Matt-jc2ml 2 месяца назад

      @@gova4238 you just phrased it wierd. Why wouldn't you just say "I wasn't at B2 until I was 5 years old"? Your comment makes it seem like you were actively studying the language for 5 years before reaching B2 level. And you can definitely learn a language faster than that, I reached C1 within a year by living in the country. I even spent two weeks in jail in cdmx lol, I learned very fast there

  • @gabrielvinicius975
    @gabrielvinicius975 3 месяца назад +6

    I think the only possible exception for learning a language in 3 months is, if the language is already very similar to yours, for example I'm brazilian so i speak portuguese, BUT I can understand spanish almost perfectly, and they can understand me, so it wouldn't be a lie if i say i learned in 3 months, same for italian, i can understand a lot of stuff but not everything (i never studied neither talked too much with italians, it is just because it is a similar language). I also study mandarin for 1 year, and i study everyday around 1h30, and i can still understand Spanish better than i can understand mandarin although i never studied spanish. That said, i would like to say it would be very unfair and disonest if i come up to a native english speaker and i brag about me being able to speak spanish within 1 / 2 months of learning(I mean I understand spanish already, although i never studied, but it was just an example)

    • @TheHeadOfState
      @TheHeadOfState  3 месяца назад +3

      Yes I agree. After learning Italian, I could read Olly Richards beginner texts in French and Spanish w minimal understanding of those languages. However, I wouldn't want beginners to get it in their heads that that is "normal" (particularly if they're learning some hard language).

    • @gova4238
      @gova4238 2 месяца назад +1

      Even in those cases is not so easy.
      1) One think is understanding and another completely different is speaking. I can understand Portuguese because is similar to Spanish, but I can't say a word because waht I speak is Spanish not Portuguese.
      2) It depends a lot on the content. Even in Spanish, my mother tongue, I don't understand quantum physics, law language or many texts on philosophy, not to mention poetry.
      3) Because regional or country differences, it's difficult to understand people from other varieties of Spanish.
      4) Even sociolects (different forms of the language spoken by different social groups) make complicates the understanding among people from the same region or city.
      5) Language also vary along with the age. Adults and teenagers use different forms of the same language. Furthermore, if students and teachers speak the same language, why can the former often not understand the latter?
      If that happens in our mother tongue, it is more common in a foreign language, no matter how similar it may be to our own.
      Many times we think that we understand but it doesn't mean that we really do.

    • @gabrielvinicius975
      @gabrielvinicius975 2 месяца назад

      I agree with your point about language variation across regions, age groups, and even within the same country. Although I primarily understand Spanish, I’m able to communicate effectively, discuss feelings, preferences, hobbies, and engage in more advanced topics.
      Language learning is a lifelong journey, and it’s impossible to know every word or understand everything completely. We often rely on context to fill in the gaps.
      That said, I believe it’s easier for Portuguese speakers to understand Spanish than the other way around. Spanish content, including movies and cultural materials, is far more prevalent on the internet than Portuguese content. However, there are exceptions-certain Spanish-speaking countries, like Chile, have a dialect that I find particularly challenging, where I can barely understand 10% of what is said. In my experience, Chilean Spanish is among the most difficult to grasp.

    • @gova4238
      @gova4238 2 месяца назад +1

      @@gabrielvinicius975 Have you tried Andalusian Spanish? It's very hard to understaand even for people from other regions of Spain.

    • @gabrielvinicius975
      @gabrielvinicius975 2 месяца назад

      ​@@gova4238 I've never tried, but now that you said about it, it made me curious, I think I'll search on YTB and comeback here to say if I understood something

  • @ambergrisgold8472
    @ambergrisgold8472 3 месяца назад +2

    I agree with what the Head of State says about the expert syndrome. Great content and advice. Still that said it is possible to learn a language in seven days but you would probably need to have an atypically formed brain as in be a high-functioning savant like Daniel Tammet who immersed himself in the Icelandic language and spent time with a native speaker. Tammet also has synaesthesia which means for those who don't know he is experienced in one or more of his senses through another. Tammet is a true polyglot and is said to speak fluently 8-11 languages.

  • @helberteles6329
    @helberteles6329 3 месяца назад +1

    I'm speak Portuguese, and I understand Italian, Spanish and Romanian, but understand is different the speak.

  • @xav5787
    @xav5787 2 месяца назад

    Was just thinking abt this

  • @dtb4903
    @dtb4903 2 месяца назад

    They get to the A2 level and they start saying they’re fluent xd

  • @ryccki4el
    @ryccki4el 3 месяца назад +2

    can i learn 2 languages in 2 years ?

    • @TheHeadOfState
      @TheHeadOfState  3 месяца назад +1

      Potentially, but it will be difficult and depends on a lot of things like your experience, dedication, the languages, etc.

    • @ryccki4el
      @ryccki4el 3 месяца назад +1

      @@TheHeadOfState okay . But tell me, Does it even worth to learn languages ? What's the point what's the difference between someone speaks 2 language and someone speaks 4 . Cause im so confused if should i keep up on learning

    • @Hellenicheavymetal
      @Hellenicheavymetal 3 месяца назад

      @@ryccki4el If you don't have a good reason to learn a language you will lose interest. For example, if you are doing it for bragging rights, to show off, or for a woman. Those aren't good reasons. If you love the culture where it is spoken, that is a good reason. That will give you a good drive to keep going. Otherwise you won't get far. Learning a language to fluency takes a long time. You can't really measure it because you are always learning something.

    • @TheHeadOfState
      @TheHeadOfState  3 месяца назад

      @@Hellenicheavymetal For a woman can be a good reason if you're marrying someone and learning her culture's language. It is unlikely you would see a language to completion without a good reason though, when so many people can't in the first place

    • @TheHeadOfState
      @TheHeadOfState  3 месяца назад +1

      @@ryccki4el If you enjoy learning and want to learn another language, you should. One of the biggest reasons why young people in particular should learn languages is because of how fried most people's brains are with tiktok/social media etc. Learning a language really improves you mentally, and can put you way ahead of other people.

  • @spiritsplice
    @spiritsplice 2 месяца назад +3

    "I passed N1 in a year"
    "I learned x language in a year"
    "I learn 50 new words a day"
    No you didn't.

    • @gabrielvinicius975
      @gabrielvinicius975 2 месяца назад

      I believe that mastering a language within a year is achievable, but it requires full-time study and complete focus. A bit of luck helps too-such as the language being similar to your native one, whether in phonemes, writing system, or other aspects.
      I once studied with someone from the U.S. who learned Portuguese in just under a year. They lived in the country full-time, were immersed in the language as a child, and constantly interacted with friends, which accelerated their learning.

    • @spiritsplice
      @spiritsplice 2 месяца назад

      @@gabrielvinicius975 Doesn't matter what you claim to believe. It can't be done. You can't learn 30,000 word in a year. You can't adapt to a foreign grammar in a year. You can't understand how a different language approaches the formulation of ideas in a year. And you sure as hell can't do all of those things at the same time in a year.

    • @gabrielvinicius975
      @gabrielvinicius975 2 месяца назад

      When one says "I believe that," it often signals the start of an argument or a point of view. It implies that the speaker is presenting something they truly believe in. In my earlier comments, I wasn't making a claim about learning 30,000 words in a year; rather, I was discussing the ability to communicate with native speakers, understand them, and have them understand you in conversations about feelings, preferences, hobbies, as well as topics like math, philosophy, climate, weather, and dating.
      A year is a significant amount of time for someone who is fully immersed in a language. Fluency doesn't necessarily mean speaking perfectly or without an accent. I was merely sharing an experience that actually occurred: a person I studied with learned the language within a year, to the extent that you could converse with her for hours without realizing she wasn’t a native speaker.
      Is this common? No.
      Did the environment play a crucial role? Absolutely.
      However, dismissing the possibility of someone achieving this simply because it didn't happen in your experience might be somewhat shortsighted.

    • @spiritsplice
      @spiritsplice 2 месяца назад

      @@gabrielvinicius975 " I was discussing the ability to communicate with native speakers"
      No, you specifically said, "I believe that mastering a language within a year is achievable". That is worlds apart from being a shitty A2 speaker who can hold a half assed 2 minute conversation.
      " as well as topics like math, philosophy, climate, weather, and dating."
      Not gonna happen in even 2 or 3 years. That's C2 level skill and nearly native. That takes 5+ years.
      "A year is a significant amount of time for someone who is fully immersed in a language"
      You've clearly never tried, because it's literally nothing.
      "dismissing the possibility of someone achieving this simply because it didn't happen in your experience might be somewhat shortsighted."
      No, you're just a pos contrarian clown trolling people about what you imagine should be possible because you don't know what dunning kruger is.

    • @spiritsplice
      @spiritsplice 2 месяца назад

      @@gabrielvinicius975 My comment was apparently deleted.
      "I wasn't making a claim about learning 30,000 words in a year"
      You said "mastering a language within a year is achievable". So you are lying.
      "as well as topics like math, philosophy, climate, weather, and dating."
      The ability to do these things is C2 level and nobody can achieve this in a year.

  • @Inv527
    @Inv527 3 месяца назад +1

    Can you post the list @PetraStaal?