The stuff works, I noticed after spraying my car interior with it that the shop actually got quieter as if I put in a big area rug, besides the panels not having that "ring" anymore.
How much was this? Was it affordable? And what was the coverage? I think it looks good and sounds great if it's a affordable for my project. Thanks again
I haven't priced it for a while, but I believe the price for Lizardskin is comparable to other insulators and sound barriers. It was $80 - $100 / gallon, which gives you about 25 sq ft of coverage at 40 mils thick. I put it on a little thinner than that, and I think it's fine. The trick is the gun, which was $100 on its own. A typical paint spray gun won't work because you need an open nozzle to handle the thick material. There are probably suitable alternatives to the Lizardskin gun, but I don't know what they are.
@@nickle549 the nozzle diameter is almost the size of a yellow #2 pencil , it's huge. I'm doing a 2nd coat tonight on a project,the stuff really works great. Since I've got a gun now ,and it's easy to work with I won't hesitate to spray it in my other cars or projects that come along.
I'm wondering if it is just another way to hold the rust under a nice color? I would say just lay down 2-3 coats of good paint will accomplish the same thing. What is different in this stuff that other coating don't have?
This isn't a rust inhibitor. It's a sound barrier and insulator. So, instead of cutting a bunch of sheets of insulation and sticking them on there one at a time, the Lizard skin accomplishes the same thing with a spray on application.
Watch the demo vid on the lizard skin channel and get back to me where they hammer a 1/4 plate uncoated and then coated. Paint won't do squat, and their vid is pretty much dead on with the results you get.
I like the restoration. Getting a fresh new life. I like that rhino lining texture or the vht wrinkle as well. The wrinkle red looks very nice as well you should look into it maybe. Do a comparison
That thought certainly crossed our minds. In fact we thought about it quite a bit. You'll notice, though, that we did get the full 40 mils of thickness where it counts (firewall and floor). I submit that 20 mils of each (for a total of 40 mils) is better than 40 mils of either one. In the end, we're happy with it. Thanks for the comment.
@@JuanjoseMiguel-z9f I wouldn't put sound mats over it. I think the heavy texture would adversely affect adhesion (the sound mats might not stick well). And it is definitely not a rust inhibitor. The key to avoiding rust is to make sure you eliminate it before you paint and then to get a good layer of coverage. I used epoxy primer for that. Lizardskin was applied on top of the primer.
No the material you are using does not show how well the sound is dampened or reduced as you are not even knocking with your hand. When you leaned in and was speaking I could hear the sound of your voice echo/reverberating when you were near the dash cavity. But could also hear your hand making noise as you dragged your hand over the surface of the area you lined. Lining, sound decoupler and insulating are things best resolved one at a time. When you truck was made they merely painted it. Perhaps put down some sort of composite liner. Finally carpeting perhaps. I'd suggest a decoupler like Amazon Basics, Kilmat, or Dynamat for example. Then I'd go with a closed cell foam insulator like Siless. Finished off with carpeting.
The stuff works, I noticed after spraying my car interior with it that the shop actually got quieter as if I put in a big area rug, besides the panels not having that "ring" anymore.
That is interesting. I hadn't thought about that, but I can see how it would absorb sound from a room. Very cool.
What CFM compressor would you need to use this? I can take breaks for my compressor if need be. Its 5.9 CFM at 90 psi. Thanks.
That should work. I believe it calls for 4-5 CFM at 70 psi.
@someguyzgarage Sounds good.
How much was this? Was it affordable? And what was the coverage? I think it looks good and sounds great if it's a affordable for my project. Thanks again
I haven't priced it for a while, but I believe the price for Lizardskin is comparable to other insulators and sound barriers. It was $80 - $100 / gallon, which gives you about 25 sq ft of coverage at 40 mils thick. I put it on a little thinner than that, and I think it's fine. The trick is the gun, which was $100 on its own. A typical paint spray gun won't work because you need an open nozzle to handle the thick material. There are probably suitable alternatives to the Lizardskin gun, but I don't know what they are.
@@some-guys-garage thank you 😊 it looked and sounds great!! Il try to maybe borrow a different type of gun from a friend. Thanks again.
@@some-guys-garage Could I use a normal bed liner spray gun for $20?
Probably. Anything with a nozzle large enough to handle the thick substance with little nodules in it should work fine, I would think.
@@nickle549 the nozzle diameter is almost the size of a yellow #2 pencil , it's huge.
I'm doing a 2nd coat tonight on a project,the stuff really works great.
Since I've got a gun now ,and it's easy to work with I won't hesitate to spray it in my other cars or projects that come along.
I'm wondering if it is just another way to hold the rust under a nice color? I would say just lay down 2-3 coats of good paint will accomplish the same thing. What is different in this stuff that other coating don't have?
This isn't a rust inhibitor. It's a sound barrier and insulator. So, instead of cutting a bunch of sheets of insulation and sticking them on there one at a time, the Lizard skin accomplishes the same thing with a spray on application.
Watch the demo vid on the lizard skin channel and get back to me where they hammer a 1/4 plate uncoated and then coated.
Paint won't do squat, and their vid is pretty much dead on with the results you get.
Paint won't do anything, nor will bedliner. Too hard to absorb anything
Just curious what did you use for undercarriage?
By undercarriage, are you asking about the bottom of the cab? studio.ruclips.net/user/videoMOLibyIpIsY/edit
I like the restoration. Getting a fresh new life. I like that rhino lining texture or the vht wrinkle as well. The wrinkle red looks very nice as well you should look into it maybe. Do a comparison
Thx, Jorge. I had not seen the VHT wrinkle paint, but it looks promising! I'll give it a go one of these days.
What's the point of spending so much money to then just not even meet spec and half do it??? Should have just used sound mats.
That thought certainly crossed our minds. In fact we thought about it quite a bit. You'll notice, though, that we did get the full 40 mils of thickness where it counts (firewall and floor). I submit that 20 mils of each (for a total of 40 mils) is better than 40 mils of either one. In the end, we're happy with it. Thanks for the comment.
Exactly!
@@some-guys-garagecan you put the sound mats over it ? And you think it can prevent rust from forming ?
@@JuanjoseMiguel-z9f I wouldn't put sound mats over it. I think the heavy texture would adversely affect adhesion (the sound mats might not stick well). And it is definitely not a rust inhibitor. The key to avoiding rust is to make sure you eliminate it before you paint and then to get a good layer of coverage. I used epoxy primer for that. Lizardskin was applied on top of the primer.
No the material you are using does not show how well the sound is dampened or reduced as you are not even knocking with your hand. When you leaned in and was speaking I could hear the sound of your voice echo/reverberating when you were near the dash cavity. But could also hear your hand making noise as you dragged your hand over the surface of the area you lined. Lining, sound decoupler and insulating are things best resolved one at a time. When you truck was made they merely painted it. Perhaps put down some sort of composite liner. Finally carpeting perhaps. I'd suggest a decoupler like Amazon Basics, Kilmat, or Dynamat for example. Then I'd go with a closed cell foam insulator like Siless. Finished off with carpeting.
I agree. Carpet is a must.