This Is Your Brain on Fighting Games | Improving Neutral Strategy in a Match-Up

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  • Опубликовано: 26 сен 2021
  • streamed Sep. 23, 2021
    Talking general strategy and what players will be thinking about at the higher levels of fighting game play using real world examples.
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  • @godlywarrior7520
    @godlywarrior7520 2 года назад +320

    I think that sajam has a magical wardrobe with infinite monochrome t shorts and nothing else

    • @rageulose
      @rageulose 2 года назад +20

      its like double d's closet in ed edd and eddy

    • @Maggotbone
      @Maggotbone 2 года назад +1

      Mark Zuckerberg

    • @shaddykack
      @shaddykack 2 года назад +3

      We can’t disprove this theory. It must be true.

  • @Sorrelhas
    @Sorrelhas 2 года назад +293

    I'm sure I'm not the only one who has dreams about weird strats, only to wake up and find out they actually work

    • @LtSprinkulz
      @LtSprinkulz 2 года назад +14

      I more often have dreams where I'm struggling against something and nothing works against it.

    • @Stryfe52
      @Stryfe52 2 года назад +10

      I had a dream where they buffed Axl’s 6H for some reason…

    • @enricobaschenis4257
      @enricobaschenis4257 2 года назад +4

      as a new player, nightmares starring ramlethal are more common

    • @theHMCenthusiast
      @theHMCenthusiast Год назад +9

      @@Stryfe52 Jesus christ it came true

    • @jroyal585
      @jroyal585 Год назад +5

      I had a dream that showed me how to beat a Super Monkey Ball 2 level I was stuck on 💀

  • @robind506
    @robind506 2 года назад +82

    An apple fell on Newtons head, and in a flash of insight, he knew how to effectively counter Gios approach

  • @daisukedoi9284
    @daisukedoi9284 2 года назад +166

    The people trying to write you off so quickly are the same people that think nerfs and buffs will make them win more matches

  • @Giraffinator
    @Giraffinator 2 года назад +116

    I hate it when chat does the thing, but your response is probably helpful to someone every time it happens.

  • @greenhillmario
    @greenhillmario 2 года назад +90

    I’m realising that the difference between someone experienced and someone newer when it comes to this is recognising that they’re actually doing this all the time and then adapting intentionally and not sub consciously.
    Recent milestone for me was playing against a Leo as Jack O and after they started using projectile more recognising that I needed to toss servants not kick or hit with normal to get over it. I think I’m slowly getting somewhere now

    • @ultraspinalki11
      @ultraspinalki11 2 года назад +4

      Fellow Jack-O player here. Had a similar experience of learning slowly but surely. After fighting a Gio player constantly in the 7th floor, I learned to efficiently use Jack-O's move where she crouches and sends her leg tied to the chain straight upwards to stop Gio's crossups. I was able to turn the tide and ended up winning more matches overall against this player.

  • @happycamperds9917
    @happycamperds9917 2 года назад +75

    Problem: Pot's Fullscreen attacks completely ruin my ground game.
    Solution: *Never be on the ground*

    • @Qobp
      @Qobp 2 года назад +29

      Mmmm heavenly buster...

    • @happycamperds9917
      @happycamperds9917 2 года назад +4

      @@Qobp That move sucks though.

    • @DeanExp
      @DeanExp 2 года назад +39

      @@happycamperds9917 Not if the opponent is always in the air begging to get heavenly bustered

    • @CanalBillCast
      @CanalBillCast 2 года назад +1

      I stay in the air with Sol against Potemkin... Until he gets full or 1/2 Tension bar! :P

    • @Goblin_iRL
      @Goblin_iRL 2 года назад +1

      @@happycamperds9917 you've just never been combo'd by it ;)

  • @fearfire100
    @fearfire100 2 года назад +36

    Wake up honey, Sajam uploaded a new FG guide

  • @loganalleman
    @loganalleman 2 года назад +60

    really shows how nerfing one overtuned option can make a character so much more interesting to play as

    • @TKBadMoon
      @TKBadMoon 2 года назад +3

      Yes, nerf Pot Garuda and buff 6K > HFB please.

    • @soulofalbedo
      @soulofalbedo 2 года назад +12

      @@TKBadMoon or just nerf the garuda and call it a day

    • @TKBadMoon
      @TKBadMoon 2 года назад +3

      @@soulofalbedo Yikes

    • @MrCowman57
      @MrCowman57 2 года назад

      @@TKBadMoon I miss old hammer fall break.

  • @MagicManCM
    @MagicManCM 2 года назад +10

    those safe buffers seem really really important to master, LK talked about it in a recent vid. I should figure out my safe buffers

  • @tootsie_
    @tootsie_ 2 года назад +11

    the end clip about golddick is so true. The only AAs that I've found that work are Sol and Gio DP ( and theyre hard to do on reaction) or airthrow (which can be beaten by a air S)

    • @Lavender_FGC
      @Lavender_FGC 2 года назад +1

      i love jumping to meet jump happy gold lewis players premptively with a really active air to air option, works a lot at stopping constant air approach

    • @VJ2099
      @VJ2099 2 года назад +1

      Have you tried Sol 2HS? It has a big hit box and it’s out for a good amount of time. The only thing is that you have to do it preemptively since it doesn’t have any invulnerability and it’s a bit slow on start up.

  • @gengarisnotinsmash...
    @gengarisnotinsmash... 2 года назад +18

    I've gone through this quite a bit in the past 6 months or so. I'm a greatsword main in brawlhalla, but outside of bcx 2020 (when GS was incredibly broken) there is almost no top level footage of the weapon, so I've had to figure a lot of stuff out myself for matchups. Some of my bigger realizations have been finding out how amazing nlight is for punishing the normally pretty safe gauntlet slight, using recovery against particularly floaty axe players, and not panicking against blasters because, despite how much I get hit in neutral, they still cannot deal with my raw damage and kill power when I do get in.
    Still have no clue against bow or lance though :(

    • @Dilijahhh
      @Dilijahhh Год назад

      Yooo brawl player + greatsword main? Love to see it, I’m struggling with the same stuff, trying to learn the neutral, and overall trying to learn adaptation and improve my mental. I hope ur doing well bro 🙏🏾

  • @Sky-ur1wk
    @Sky-ur1wk 2 года назад +19

    What the dog doin better become sajams new catchphrase

  • @Blargel
    @Blargel 2 года назад +8

    Getting run over by a dog is exactly my experience against Gio.

  • @mc_zittrer8793
    @mc_zittrer8793 2 года назад +1

    Huh....Never noticed it before, but the paw prints on the heels of her boots is a nice touch, lol.

  • @eduardoserpa1682
    @eduardoserpa1682 2 года назад +2

    As usual, the Machabo guide is an amazing framework to create a gameplan around.

  • @c4ffeineaddict
    @c4ffeineaddict 2 года назад +23

    what the dog doin

    • @Sorrelhas
      @Sorrelhas 2 года назад

      what the cat sayin

    • @MrVacuumBrainBimbo
      @MrVacuumBrainBimbo 2 года назад +7

      @@Sorrelhas what does the fox say

    • @Sorrelhas
      @Sorrelhas 2 года назад +9

      @@MrVacuumBrainBimbo You deserve a veteran's discount

    • @speedweed69
      @speedweed69 2 года назад

      what the dog doin

  • @the8anarchist
    @the8anarchist 2 года назад +5

    i think another topic that might be a decent video is how people refuse to change their gameplan/strategy once its been figured out. I had this happen with a Ky player last week

  • @ThePrototype047
    @ThePrototype047 2 года назад +4

    2k is exactly what makes Jack-o such a difficult match up for Gio

    • @bageltoo
      @bageltoo 2 года назад +3

      Glad it’s not just me then lol. Jack-O is a pain as Gio

  • @TheJbrown60
    @TheJbrown60 2 года назад +2

    2k really an underrated defensive move for sol

  • @Mistouze
    @Mistouze 2 года назад +1

    Huh, right at the time when I start using the 2K 2D safe buffer I get an alternative with REACH.
    Bless.

  • @shagetakasai1426
    @shagetakasai1426 2 года назад +8

    As a nago player I share this experience quite frequently again Geo players. 0:23

    • @filipepires9860
      @filipepires9860 2 года назад +3

      For me the big thing is learning that you can punish her when she does the zig zig dog as i call it (2.6.k i think)
      That helped me a lot
      Also, i just find that they normally have just a plan, they always do the same rotation on pressure and wakeup so i just abuse that
      Gio players are normally, in my experience, not very flexible in their gameplan
      Also in Sol i strugle less then when im playing Nago, Sol just has better close buttons

    • @MagicManCM
      @MagicManCM 2 года назад +1

      fr dude she can whiff punish some of our big usually safe normals so easily and it brings me so much pain lol

    • @yoyoguy1st
      @yoyoguy1st 2 года назад +1

      I think that’s like everyone vs Gio lol

    • @AchedSphinx
      @AchedSphinx 2 года назад +1

      @@filipepires9860 hmm, well i've been playing this game for awhile and it's incredibly rare for anyone to punish me doing 236k, spiral arrow. she can cancel it from any normal, so if people expect you to do it after 5h, you'll get hit. if you do it anywhere else it's a gamble where you can eat a huge combo. not saying it's a bad idea or anything, but it's not the answer to the match up or anything.

    • @filipepires9860
      @filipepires9860 2 года назад

      @@AchedSphinx Maybe I explained myself poorly
      I can interrupt, with 6P, before the hit connects (as sol at least)
      It's not a big punish or anything, it's just a get off me tool that helps me reset the neutral
      I still find the matchup hard and theres a lot of other things that I need to work on, like blocking more in certain ranges because your far slash is basically Fullscreen :p
      But I would say I used to block 100% of the time before and couldn't see an opening, and now I have one consistent.
      The second one is getting used and confortably air grab people, really has been helping me with Gio, Milia (harder since she has 6M dashes in the air), and Pot wake up backwards megafist
      And third, 5k is a blessing on sol, and you basically can't do the jumping crossing up move (I can't for shit understand how you write inputs for this game, but 234.s I think) if I'm ready for it
      Then again, isn't a big deal, just helped me personally a lot having a breathing time after the spiral dog

  • @Youdrongo
    @Youdrongo Год назад

    These captions are wild

  • @PinupSticknerd
    @PinupSticknerd 9 месяцев назад

    "Just to get a button* use as an option."

  • @alexwilliams6867
    @alexwilliams6867 2 года назад +1

    Gio player starts taking notes

  • @noahgreen3386
    @noahgreen3386 2 года назад

    Why gatling into 6H instead of 2D? Wouldn't 2D avoid the punish situation when Gio dashblocks?

  • @ultimatederp5069
    @ultimatederp5069 2 года назад +4

    2K not just as Sol is underused. As a Ramlethal main I need to use it soooo much more.

    • @JulieLamia
      @JulieLamia 2 года назад

      I need to use P and K way more often as Ram in general, 6P notwithstanding. I've formed a bad habit of only using Slashes and Heavies.

    • @ultimatederp5069
      @ultimatederp5069 2 года назад

      @@JulieLamia same! S and H are so big and fun to use but I found that 2S is actually pretty good and 5P combos into 2D which is great!

  • @Integral_RoA
    @Integral_RoA 2 года назад +2

    What do you mean this video is new? I thought I watched this same video months ago

  • @Upsetkiller456
    @Upsetkiller456 2 года назад

    Hisako in KI ruled.

  • @fogijay
    @fogijay 2 года назад +1

    0:31 what da dog doin’?

  • @jeffwa8118
    @jeffwa8118 Год назад

    The automated CC is gdlk, lmao

  • @eebbaa5560
    @eebbaa5560 2 года назад

    Is this Sol color a mod?

  • @speedweed69
    @speedweed69 2 года назад +5

    Could you explain why 2k 6h is better than 2k 2d?

    • @TheCajanator
      @TheCajanator 2 года назад +12

      I think its mostly cause 2d whiffs sometimes at longer ranges and 6h probably doesnt

    • @AchedSphinx
      @AchedSphinx 2 года назад

      @@TheCajanator okay yeah, but if you do the thing he said to counter it 6h is -22 and it can't be special cancelled. so if he doesn't have meter, he'll just eat the opponent's fattest combo. 2d is shorter range, but it's safer on block.

    • @Xiaounlimited
      @Xiaounlimited 2 года назад +1

      @@AchedSphinx He said he buffers it as an OS. If it's blocked, 6H doesn't come out. If it connects it cancels into 6H. It seems fairly consistent and safe.

    • @AchedSphinx
      @AchedSphinx 2 года назад +3

      @@Xiaounlimited the OS is on 2k whiff. if 2k whiffs 6h won't come out. if 2k hits or is blocked 6h will come out.

  • @ferdinandboudreau983
    @ferdinandboudreau983 2 года назад

    Storm beat my ass yesterday and here I am.

  • @Deathking15
    @Deathking15 2 года назад +1

    Are you sure it was the idea that struck you, or was it the Gio that stuck you?

    • @schitzie
      @schitzie 2 года назад +1

      mr sajam can you confirm or deny that you were hit by, you were struck by, a smooth criminal?

  • @dressigvil
    @dressigvil 2 года назад

    when will chat learn

  • @altokia2724
    @altokia2724 2 года назад +1

    Jam

  • @luan.galaxy
    @luan.galaxy 2 года назад

    COUNTER...but not for me!

  • @kingangelo3838
    @kingangelo3838 2 года назад

    What the gio doing

  • @decksteroussnail
    @decksteroussnail 2 года назад

    The tools and knowledge checks you develop for a matchup are bricks but the complaints typed in chat is straw. The big bad matchup wolf don't discriminate and your back is gonna get blown out.

  • @MoeMunnie023
    @MoeMunnie023 2 года назад +4

    I dropped potemkin today bcuz i couldnt kara consistently on controller.

    • @oddyw3422
      @oddyw3422 2 года назад +3

      acquireTigris has a good video on his channel on how to kara better with gamepads, but I usually straighten out my thumb and put the base of it at K and then roll onto P

    • @jasonpinon6873
      @jasonpinon6873 2 года назад +2

      I switched to stick for Pot, I can’t do it on pad either

    • @roarkviolet1912
      @roarkviolet1912 2 года назад +1

      I recommend changing your button layout to have square = P and R1 = K it helps a lot

    • @MoeMunnie023
      @MoeMunnie023 2 года назад

      @@roarkviolet1912 ima try that out.

  • @RaheemDublin
    @RaheemDublin 2 года назад

    What the dog doin?

  • @burritoboi3700
    @burritoboi3700 2 года назад

    -400$

  • @josephhertzog4568
    @josephhertzog4568 2 года назад

    i am much better

  • @paz8723
    @paz8723 2 года назад

    This wouldnt work if the gio bothered to use 5K, like ever